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Why do Jews believe in Lucifer?

 
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And this is the system you defend GW? Do you consider that

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hmm

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BTW, Heres a blog I did awhile back on the Lucifer name..


BISHOP LUCIFER of Sardinia and the Luciferians , What Ecclesiastical Scandal Immortalized his Name?

COMPILED BY APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY

It took me a few hours to write and qoute and compile. I did not copy and paste this. Thank you


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BISHOP LUCIFER of Sardinia and the Luciferians , What Ecclesiastical Scandal Immortalized his Name?


How did the Lucifer name get to where it is today? Here is a theory..

Imagine, being a once respected Bishop in the Catholic Ecclesiastical History who watches other sects build up in a changing religious and political scene. Then there appears one sect whose beliefs goes againsts yours. In freedom of speech you open your mouth to state your opinion, only to find your named soon immortalized in History books and equated with the Devil himself !!

This what happened to Bishop Lucifer Calaritanus in the years of 355 in Italy during the reign of Emperor Constantius.

Lucifer Calaritanus was a bishop in Sardinia. right before Jerome ( hired by Pope Damascus) was translating Hebrew text into Latin and the famed Lux Ferre became written within the book of Isaiah. Jerome finished his revisions in 405 AD known as the Latin Vulgate. He was working with the translation of the name Heylel and turned it into Lucifer in Isaiah 14:12.

King James version:

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer., son of the morning ! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

The word "Lucifer" comes from 2 Latin words: Lux (LIght) + Ferous (to carry)

Now what did cause a scandal in those years? The beliefs that Lucifer Calaritanus was against was the teachings of Christian Presbyter Arius from Alexandria Egypt, He believed that Jesus was a created being and not the same as God. In the form of speeches, Lucifer sided with a Bishop in Alexandria wrote to the Emperor complaining of Arianism.

This is what the Bible translator, Jerome was observing during this time, Jerome pratically lived at the hip of Bishop Lucifer and could see this take place.

Here is a list of speeches by Lucifer, showing his growing anger against Emperor Constantius for allowing this sect to flourish,.

Moriundum esse pro Dei filio (It is Necessary to Die for the Son of God)

, De non conveniendo cum haereticis (On not meeting with heretics),

De regibus apostaticis (On apostate kings),

De non parcendo in Deum delinquentibus (On not forgiving those who transgress against God)

and the two books of Quia absentem nemo debet iudicare nec damnare, sive De Athanasio

(That no one ought to be judged or damned while absent, or On Athanasius).

This led to Lucifers excommunication and his exile, for he was likely a thorn in the flesh of the church dealing with all kinds of scisms and ideas already . Lucifer was so over powering in defending the Catholic Orthodoxy that it actually stressed more schisms in the church and backfired ! Jerome the Bible translator who was observing the drama called Lucifers followers, Luciferians ! Not quite what you thought Luciferians to be, eh? Well this is where the term originated.

.Jerome (the Bible translator) discusses Lucifer and his supporters in his polemic Altercatio Luciferiani et orthodoxi ("Altercation of a Luciferian and an Orthodox"), as well as describing Lucifer bishop's in De Viris Illustribus De Viris Illustribus

Veneration

In memory the Church of Cagliari celebrates the Feast of St Lucifer on May 20th. Also a church is dedicated in Lucifer Calaritanus name.

Qoute: The Church of Cagliari celebrated the feast of a Saint Lucifer on the 20th of May. Two Archbishops of Sardinia wrote for and against the sanctity of Lucifer. The Congregation of the Inquisition imposed silence on both parties, and decreed that the veneration of Lucifer should stand as it was. The Bollandists defend this decree of the Congregation ... contending that the Lucifer in question is not the author of the schism, but another Lucifer who suffered martyrdom in the persecution of the Vandals. "


In the end. Lucifer put his support behind the Eustathian party which had unflinchingly stood by the Nicene creed, After a exile, more opposition and arguments after a most likely excommunication.. Lucifer returned to Cagliari, where, according to Jerome the Bible translator., he died in 370.

So who really is memoralized in Isaiah 14:12, A Babylonian King? A Bishop? A Bringer of LIght? Or Satan himself? What a mess, that politics and religion can be.

Isaiah 14:12.

King James version:

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer., son of the morning ! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

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Witch one could she be? lol
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They follow the KABAL! The ones that claim authority over this world. If they are so sure of themselves, "WHY DO THEY CLAIM AUTHORITY". Why do they not have the authority? Who are they claiming it from?
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BTW, Heres a blog I did awhile back on the Lucifer name..

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Do you mind if I paste this on my thread?

Of course it will be quoted. peace
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Oh for the love of Jesus

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Oh almost forgot the important part. They call themselves Jews, BUT JEWS THEY ARE NOT!
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Kabbalists, demon worshipers, it's how they obtain power and control. They have no empathy. It is not all jews who participate but in my opinion they are all suspect. As any indian can tell you demons are very real, and exist right beyond the range of our perception is another 'dimension'


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Azeratel Axo: 1+1=3

And this is the system you defend GW? Do you consider that

Noble?
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hmm

My apologies again... I misspoke.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


No harm done.

hf
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Why are people so gullible and stupid? Lucifer is not in the damn Jewish Bible!! Geez!
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Its a translation of Morning Star. Of course King Solomon had a Venus observatory in the Temple.. to measure its cycles..It foretold the rise and fall of Kings.

Every Jewish King had to rely on the expertise of the Astrologers, being that the tribes were arrayed under their zodiac. Its a Christian lie that astrology and Judaism werent together.

People had to know the zodiac of their Tikkun, as well, point of correction.

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Life is like a game of soccer. It is not life and death.

The Jews have played it really well for the last hundred years.

It is time for us in the other team to stand up and kick some ass.

After all, the crowd has payed to see an exciting game.
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BTW, Heres a blog I did awhile back on the Lucifer name..

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Do you mind if I paste this on my thread?

Of course it will be quoted. peace
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Yes, feel free..

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Madonna

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Madonna is an an appellation of Mary (mother of Jesus)

The Mother of Christ
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One illiterate asking questions of other illiterates regarding the bible?
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BTW, Heres a blog I did awhile back on the Lucifer name..


BISHOP LUCIFER of Sardinia and the Luciferians , What Ecclesiastical Scandal Immortalized his Name?

COMPILED BY APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY

It took me a few hours to write and qoute and compile. I did not copy and paste this. Thank you


**************

BISHOP LUCIFER of Sardinia and the Luciferians , What Ecclesiastical Scandal Immortalized his Name?


How did the Lucifer name get to where it is today? Here is a theory..

Imagine, being a once respected Bishop in the Catholic Ecclesiastical History who watches other sects build up in a changing religious and political scene. Then there appears one sect whose beliefs goes againsts yours. In freedom of speech you open your mouth to state your opinion, only to find your named soon immortalized in History books and equated with the Devil himself !!

This what happened to Bishop Lucifer Calaritanus in the years of 355 in Italy during the reign of Emperor Constantius.

Lucifer Calaritanus was a bishop in Sardinia. right before Jerome ( hired by Pope Damascus) was translating Hebrew text into Latin and the famed Lux Ferre became written within the book of Isaiah. Jerome finished his revisions in 405 AD known as the Latin Vulgate. He was working with the translation of the name Heylel and turned it into Lucifer in Isaiah 14:12.

King James version:

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer., son of the morning ! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

The word "Lucifer" comes from 2 Latin words: Lux (LIght) + Ferous (to carry)

Now what did cause a scandal in those years? The beliefs that Lucifer Calaritanus was against was the teachings of Christian Presbyter Arius from Alexandria Egypt, He believed that Jesus was a created being and not the same as God. In the form of speeches, Lucifer sided with a Bishop in Alexandria wrote to the Emperor complaining of Arianism.

This is what the Bible translator, Jerome was observing during this time, Jerome pratically lived at the hip of Bishop Lucifer and could see this take place.

Here is a list of speeches by Lucifer, showing his growing anger against Emperor Constantius for allowing this sect to flourish,.

Moriundum esse pro Dei filio (It is Necessary to Die for the Son of God)

, De non conveniendo cum haereticis (On not meeting with heretics),

De regibus apostaticis (On apostate kings),

De non parcendo in Deum delinquentibus (On not forgiving those who transgress against God)

and the two books of Quia absentem nemo debet iudicare nec damnare, sive De Athanasio

(That no one ought to be judged or damned while absent, or On Athanasius).

This led to Lucifers excommunication and his exile, for he was likely a thorn in the flesh of the church dealing with all kinds of scisms and ideas already . Lucifer was so over powering in defending the Catholic Orthodoxy that it actually stressed more schisms in the church and backfired ! Jerome the Bible translator who was observing the drama called Lucifers followers, Luciferians ! Not quite what you thought Luciferians to be, eh? Well this is where the term originated.

.Jerome (the Bible translator) discusses Lucifer and his supporters in his polemic Altercatio Luciferiani et orthodoxi ("Altercation of a Luciferian and an Orthodox"), as well as describing Lucifer bishop's in De Viris Illustribus De Viris Illustribus

Veneration

In memory the Church of Cagliari celebrates the Feast of St Lucifer on May 20th. Also a church is dedicated in Lucifer Calaritanus name.

Qoute: The Church of Cagliari celebrated the feast of a Saint Lucifer on the 20th of May. Two Archbishops of Sardinia wrote for and against the sanctity of Lucifer. The Congregation of the Inquisition imposed silence on both parties, and decreed that the veneration of Lucifer should stand as it was. The Bollandists defend this decree of the Congregation ... contending that the Lucifer in question is not the author of the schism, but another Lucifer who suffered martyrdom in the persecution of the Vandals. "


In the end. Lucifer put his support behind the Eustathian party which had unflinchingly stood by the Nicene creed, After a exile, more opposition and arguments after a most likely excommunication.. Lucifer returned to Cagliari, where, according to Jerome the Bible translator., he died in 370.

So who really is memoralized in Isaiah 14:12, A Babylonian King? A Bishop? A Bringer of LIght? Or Satan himself? What a mess, that politics and religion can be.

Isaiah 14:12.

King James version:

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer., son of the morning ! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Last Edited by APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


lmao

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BTW, Heres a blog I did awhile back on the Lucifer name..


BISHOP LUCIFER of Sardinia and the Luciferians , What Ecclesiastical Scandal Immortalized his Name?

COMPILED BY APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY

It took me a few hours to write and qoute and compile. I did not copy and paste this. Thank you


**************

BISHOP LUCIFER of Sardinia and the Luciferians , What Ecclesiastical Scandal Immortalized his Name?


How did the Lucifer name get to where it is today? Here is a theory..

Imagine, being a once respected Bishop in the Catholic Ecclesiastical History who watches other sects build up in a changing religious and political scene. Then there appears one sect whose beliefs goes againsts yours. In freedom of speech you open your mouth to state your opinion, only to find your named soon immortalized in History books and equated with the Devil himself !!

This what happened to Bishop Lucifer Calaritanus in the years of 355 in Italy during the reign of Emperor Constantius.

Lucifer Calaritanus was a bishop in Sardinia. right before Jerome ( hired by Pope Damascus) was translating Hebrew text into Latin and the famed Lux Ferre became written within the book of Isaiah. Jerome finished his revisions in 405 AD known as the Latin Vulgate. He was working with the translation of the name Heylel and turned it into Lucifer in Isaiah 14:12.

King James version:

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer., son of the morning ! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

The word "Lucifer" comes from 2 Latin words: Lux (LIght) + Ferous (to carry)

Now what did cause a scandal in those years? The beliefs that Lucifer Calaritanus was against was the teachings of Christian Presbyter Arius from Alexandria Egypt, He believed that Jesus was a created being and not the same as God. In the form of speeches, Lucifer sided with a Bishop in Alexandria wrote to the Emperor complaining of Arianism.

This is what the Bible translator, Jerome was observing during this time, Jerome pratically lived at the hip of Bishop Lucifer and could see this take place.

Here is a list of speeches by Lucifer, showing his growing anger against Emperor Constantius for allowing this sect to flourish,.

Moriundum esse pro Dei filio (It is Necessary to Die for the Son of God)

, De non conveniendo cum haereticis (On not meeting with heretics),

De regibus apostaticis (On apostate kings),

De non parcendo in Deum delinquentibus (On not forgiving those who transgress against God)

and the two books of Quia absentem nemo debet iudicare nec damnare, sive De Athanasio

(That no one ought to be judged or damned while absent, or On Athanasius).

This led to Lucifers excommunication and his exile, for he was likely a thorn in the flesh of the church dealing with all kinds of scisms and ideas already . Lucifer was so over powering in defending the Catholic Orthodoxy that it actually stressed more schisms in the church and backfired ! Jerome the Bible translator who was observing the drama called Lucifers followers, Luciferians ! Not quite what you thought Luciferians to be, eh? Well this is where the term originated.

.Jerome (the Bible translator) discusses Lucifer and his supporters in his polemic Altercatio Luciferiani et orthodoxi ("Altercation of a Luciferian and an Orthodox"), as well as describing Lucifer bishop's in De Viris Illustribus De Viris Illustribus

Veneration

In memory the Church of Cagliari celebrates the Feast of St Lucifer on May 20th. Also a church is dedicated in Lucifer Calaritanus name.

Qoute: The Church of Cagliari celebrated the feast of a Saint Lucifer on the 20th of May. Two Archbishops of Sardinia wrote for and against the sanctity of Lucifer. The Congregation of the Inquisition imposed silence on both parties, and decreed that the veneration of Lucifer should stand as it was. The Bollandists defend this decree of the Congregation ... contending that the Lucifer in question is not the author of the schism, but another Lucifer who suffered martyrdom in the persecution of the Vandals. "


In the end. Lucifer put his support behind the Eustathian party which had unflinchingly stood by the Nicene creed, After a exile, more opposition and arguments after a most likely excommunication.. Lucifer returned to Cagliari, where, according to Jerome the Bible translator., he died in 370.

So who really is memoralized in Isaiah 14:12, A Babylonian King? A Bishop? A Bringer of LIght? Or Satan himself? What a mess, that politics and religion can be.

Isaiah 14:12.

King James version:

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer., son of the morning ! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Last Edited by APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON

All horseshit, Lucifer literally means bearer of light and Illuminati is derived from illumination. Why do you continually post nothing but new world horseshit when we all see the evil it represents? Evil is as evil does. Lucifer is a demon that trades knowledge for power.
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All goes back to fear of the mother godess religions that used to rule the show on earth.
...Venus Lucifera and the goddess Diana, whose title was Lucifera, the Light-bringer.
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Have you guys felt that old testament feels like a message of a controlling psychopathic father, while the new testament feels more love based message?

Why do Jews believe in lucifer?there is something odd about the ok'd testament!!!
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Because Lucifer is the "light bearer" in our DNA that makes us human.

:DNA intuition:

The Phosp-Horus in each of us. Without phosphorus, consciousness and spiritual energy would not exist. It is what makes us human.

:Meditation:

The phosphorus atom has the characteristic of firing in our blood. This is why those who worshiped the Baal, AKA the Father and Lord, had instituted fire-worship such as the Druids who would be the descendants of the same Jews you speak of.

:Temple:

“The soul of every sort of flesh is its blood.” (Le 17:14). For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life. Leviticus 17:11

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The father is Amun or Amon which is our Hippocampus (Ammon's Horn) in which the father of the temple resides.

:Jupiter Amon:

He is the most high.

:Moses Amon:
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Why are people so gullible and stupid? Lucifer is not in the damn Jewish Bible!! Geez!
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Its a translation of Morning Star. Of course King Solomon had a Venus observatory in the Temple.. to measure its cycles..It foretold the rise and fall of Kings.

Every Jewish King had to rely on the expertise of the Astrologers, being that the tribes were arrayed under their zodiac. Its a Christian lie that astrology and Judaism werent together.

People had to know the zodiac of their Tikkun, as well, point of correction.

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Hey, how did you get that? I did that on my spirograph 45 years ago
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According to Rabi Finkelstein, Lucifer fell on earth 75.000 years ago.

This period in human history is liked with rapid brain power increase, speech ability developing, better hunting tools, etc.

Don't forget that OT revels us that fallen angels can have children with women.

Makes you wonder.
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THIS ^^^

At least Jews are smarter than most Christians,

A talking snake, really? Is that what Christians teach in sunday school still?

Lucifer was simply from another planet. and he mated with Eve and had kids, Those kids started making metals, technology etc..cause they inherited their Fathers intelligence. Not hard to figure out.
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It may be. Snakes don't make babies. More likely, he had a character of a snake. Is that's why women love to be told what's obviously not true? Could be.

Another interesting thing, one of ten tribe, the Dan tribe moved to northern Europe.

Their symbol was the serpent.

The ancient Spartans are descendants of these people, the Danites, a war-like tribe that came to Europe known also as Sarmatians.

The interesting part is, most historians agree that protoslavic tribes were in fact Scytho-Sarmatian.

Now, if they created communism, which is nothing but sham.
Yet was revered as religion, for the better part of my upbringing... I'm not sure what to think about OT either.

It could all well be their historical prank. They had thousands of years to think it all over, unlike we did.

We are kids comparing to them. That's why we kill each other instead realize the root of evil.

Finkelstain says in his interview: "we tell them to worship Jesus, so they do it".

You be the judge.
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"Snakes don't make babies. More likely, he had a character of a snake. Is that's why women love to be told what's obviously not true? Could be."



Maybe that is why I don't believe anything nor trust anything coming out of anyone's mouth. When men speak and tell me something,I think the total opposite.
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Re: Why do Jews believe in Lucifer?
Kabbalists, demon worshipers, it's how they obtain power and control. They have no empathy. It is not all jews who participate but in my opinion they are all suspect. As any indian can tell you demons are very real, and exist right beyond the range of our perception is another 'dimension'



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Re: Why do Jews believe in Lucifer?
All horseshit, Lucifer literally means bearer of light and Illuminati is derived from illumination. Why do you continually post nothing but new world horseshit when we all see the evil it represents? Evil is as evil does. Lucifer is a demon that trades knowledge for power.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1181905


homeruhh

Self-contradictory statement

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please restart brain
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'Laeva Ocula Sinistra, id Telæ ultimus cyphra, excusus a ex ias' ~ Ego constitutus est a meus Adonai Y H V H de, a Anunnaki et Elohim: Iosue ego sum id; et tu tuebor, O Zorobabel.
~{§/3360; 5492} "Y aunque ande en Valle de Sombra de Muerte, no temeré mal alguno, porque Tú estarás conmigo: Tu vara y Tu cayado, me infundirán aliento... ~
{§ 787 § 6138}~{exo Thelema, "Fac quod vis": Lex Solus, Exclusiva omnium aliorum / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~
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Re: Why do Jews believe in Lucifer?
Why are people so gullible and stupid? Lucifer is not in the damn Jewish Bible!! Geez!
 Quoting: mr. Bel


Its a translation of Morning Star. Of course King Solomon had a Venus observatory in the Temple.. to measure its cycles..It foretold the rise and fall of Kings.

Every Jewish King had to rely on the expertise of the Astrologers, being that the tribes were arrayed under their zodiac. Its a Christian lie that astrology and Judaism werent together.

People had to know the zodiac of their Tikkun, as well, point of correction.

:earthvenus:
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


Hey, how did you get that? I did that on my spirograph 45 years ago
cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1181905


It is an inside out E8 lie group.

E8BlankLie
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~ Espíritu Santo (A) Fuego blanco Arco iris: frío Cuchillas, la trueno, radius Vector! ~ 'Iris Stellata Animata Resonata' ~
{§6490} / (Albo Lupus-Ursae, vocem de glacialis invio!) {§oNoN/GoQo} {Ater ¢¢ Petra °°° surculus} ~ {'Quod Nullus Tam odio'}

'Laeva Ocula Sinistra, id Telæ ultimus cyphra, excusus a ex ias' ~ Ego constitutus est a meus Adonai Y H V H de, a Anunnaki et Elohim: Iosue ego sum id; et tu tuebor, O Zorobabel.
~{§/3360; 5492} "Y aunque ande en Valle de Sombra de Muerte, no temeré mal alguno, porque Tú estarás conmigo: Tu vara y Tu cayado, me infundirán aliento... ~
{§ 787 § 6138}~{exo Thelema, "Fac quod vis": Lex Solus, Exclusiva omnium aliorum / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~
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Re: Why do Jews believe in Lucifer?
Why are people so gullible and stupid? Lucifer is not in the damn Jewish Bible!! Geez!
 Quoting: mr. Bel


Its a translation of Morning Star. Of course King Solomon had a Venus observatory in the Temple.. to measure its cycles..It foretold the rise and fall of Kings.

Every Jewish King had to rely on the expertise of the Astrologers, being that the tribes were arrayed under their zodiac. Its a Christian lie that astrology and Judaism werent together.

People had to know the zodiac of their Tikkun, as well, point of correction.

:earthvenus:
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


Hey, how did you get that? I did that on my spirograph 45 years ago
cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1181905


I know Christians are very illiterate in terms of scientific education. Ill explain most simply.

The spiral is the venus transits




Venus and Earth is a love story. Lucifer and Earth is a Love Story. Condemned for who he loved, he was cast down from the heights . Its why we describe love as "Falling" Saying, I fell in love. It is the memories of Lucifers love (the serpent tempting Eve)

VENUS AS LUCIFER: She/he is both Morningstar and Eveningstar in the sky in one calendar year detailing the underworld initiation of Ishtar/Inanna. When she falls out of view to the horizon, she is "Fallen" How art thou fallen" When Venus rises, she is attempting to "set her throne up high"

Enjoy the embrace and the dance of love and the five pointed flower or star with Earth.

Here is the true face of Satan and the Evil Pentagram.

We will finish one of these evil pentagrams in June 5,6th 2012 at the Venus transit. Many will be celebrating around the world. Last Venus transit was on June 8th, 2004.

QOUTE from NASA

Transits of Venus across the disk of the Sun are among the rarest of planetary alignments. Indeed, only six such events have occurred since the invention of the telescope (1631, 1639, 1761, 1769, 1874 and 1882). The next two transits of Venus will occur on 2004 June 08 and 2012 June 06.

The 2004 transit crosses the Sun's southern hemisphere while the 2012 event crosses the northern hemisphere. The position of Venus at each contact is shown along with its path as a function of Universal Time. Each transit lasts over six hours.








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Re: Why do Jews believe in Lucifer?
Have you guys felt that old testament feels like a message of a controlling psychopathic father, while the new testament feels more love based message?

Why do Jews believe in lucifer?there is something odd about the ok'd testament!!!
 Quoting: Questionairebillionaire 35002685


The question to your answer is that the Jews occupying Israel are not Israelis but are Ashkenazi and claim themselves as Jews,


Here is the real story about the evil so called Jews who control everything

House Of Rothschild: No One Can Understand What Has Happened To The Planet Without Reading This
[link to www.pakalertpress.com]
Are you better off today, than you were 4 years ago?
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Re: Why do Jews believe in Lucifer?
All horseshit, Lucifer literally means bearer of light and Illuminati is derived from illumination. Why do you continually post nothing but new world horseshit when we all see the evil it represents? Evil is as evil does. Lucifer is a demon that trades knowledge for power.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1181905


homeruhh

Self-contradictory statement

MAKA engine failure

please restart brain
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Not all knowledge is good, like for instance when you keep it to yourself and use it to control others at their expense.

You have a very shallow mind
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Re: Why do Jews believe in Lucifer?
Not all knowledge is good, like for instance when you keep it to yourself and use it to control others at their expense.

You have a very shallow mind
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1181905


We all play the same game in this life.
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~ Espíritu Santo (A) Fuego blanco Arco iris: frío Cuchillas, la trueno, radius Vector! ~ 'Iris Stellata Animata Resonata' ~
{§6490} / (Albo Lupus-Ursae, vocem de glacialis invio!) {§oNoN/GoQo} {Ater ¢¢ Petra °°° surculus} ~ {'Quod Nullus Tam odio'}

'Laeva Ocula Sinistra, id Telæ ultimus cyphra, excusus a ex ias' ~ Ego constitutus est a meus Adonai Y H V H de, a Anunnaki et Elohim: Iosue ego sum id; et tu tuebor, O Zorobabel.
~{§/3360; 5492} "Y aunque ande en Valle de Sombra de Muerte, no temeré mal alguno, porque Tú estarás conmigo: Tu vara y Tu cayado, me infundirán aliento... ~
{§ 787 § 6138}~{exo Thelema, "Fac quod vis": Lex Solus, Exclusiva omnium aliorum / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~
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Re: Why do Jews believe in Lucifer?
Not all knowledge is good, like for instance when you keep it to yourself and use it to control others at their expense.

You have a very shallow mind
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We all play the same game in this life.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Perhaps, but when the rules are different for some that others the 'game' is not a fair competition, is it?
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Re: Why do Jews believe in Lucifer?
Not all knowledge is good, like for instance when you keep it to yourself and use it to control others at their expense.

You have a very shallow mind
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1181905


We all play the same game in this life.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Perhaps, but when the rules are different for some that others the 'game' is not a fair competition, is it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1181905


For whom are the rules different?
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~ Espíritu Santo (A) Fuego blanco Arco iris: frío Cuchillas, la trueno, radius Vector! ~ 'Iris Stellata Animata Resonata' ~
{§6490} / (Albo Lupus-Ursae, vocem de glacialis invio!) {§oNoN/GoQo} {Ater ¢¢ Petra °°° surculus} ~ {'Quod Nullus Tam odio'}

'Laeva Ocula Sinistra, id Telæ ultimus cyphra, excusus a ex ias' ~ Ego constitutus est a meus Adonai Y H V H de, a Anunnaki et Elohim: Iosue ego sum id; et tu tuebor, O Zorobabel.
~{§/3360; 5492} "Y aunque ande en Valle de Sombra de Muerte, no temeré mal alguno, porque Tú estarás conmigo: Tu vara y Tu cayado, me infundirán aliento... ~
{§ 787 § 6138}~{exo Thelema, "Fac quod vis": Lex Solus, Exclusiva omnium aliorum / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~
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Re: Why do Jews believe in Lucifer?
Not all knowledge is good, like for instance when you keep it to yourself and use it to control others at their expense.

You have a very shallow mind
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1181905


We all play the same game in this life.
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


That is another misCONception.

The usual suspects are caught in their own web of deception.

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