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Why do Jews believe in Lucifer?

 
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Lucifer pays better

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lol

He is the Lord of this world.
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Satan and his angels are not from planet earth, but using the jews to do their bidding is especially enjoyable since it mocks Jesus and all the disciples and early followers who were Jewish. Using the jews to conquer the world for Satan is just a way of humiliating Christ and Christianity, but they can and do control anyone of any race. Some people are controlled and possessed by good spirits, but they are much weaker and a much smaller force, just trying to save a few people here and there. They are basically interplanetary AETH organization, Aliens for the Ethical Treatment of Humans.

And the whole star of david and the two intersecting triangles, representing the phallus and the vagina, that is the religion of Satan, not Judaism. The obelisk and egyptian stuff, Osiris and isis, they represent the so called masculine and feminine forces of the universe, or as they call them, the active and passive principles.

Even the so called good people, really worship and obey evil, they are subconsciously mesmerized by it, they feel good about evil, and therefore it is good to them.
That is sort of the nature of this whole Illuminait thing, the people at the top are child killing, raping satanists, and the so called moral and good people at the bottom, basically feed off their satanic power, they just get a wonderful healing from it, but don't understand it, they worship the life force, and think it originates in the good, but the people at the top know where it really comes from, understand it's true nature and why their vaginal flunkies really worship them.
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Lucifer pays better

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lol

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The first pimp, as I often refer to him.
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Re: Why do Jews believe in Lucifer?
Jewish holy day is Saturday.

Saturday is Saturns Day.

Saturn is their God.

Saturn and Satan are the same word in Hebrew.

Satan = Lucifer.

Lucifer means Bearer/Bringer of Light.

If you are in the presence of a Bringer of Light, you are Illuminated.

Illuminati.
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It is called Hasatan (the enemy) in any form of face you want to put it in and it is here and well on GLP.
The misinformation by the self-appointed professors is to the point that lack of intelligence is becoming overwhelming. People for security I guess attach a personality and pictures to reinforce their idea of who and what it is. Hasatan doesn’t have horns or demonic body any more than a follower of God has a halo (that you can see). The whole idea is to create a psychological disturbance to the senses. The true identity is deception plain and simple. Deception is the mask. Some wonderful ly imaginative art does not portray at all, a white piece of paper is more demonic.
Understanding the scripture has ill-logical apparently. Every time people open one of these threads relating to the scriptures it overwhelmingly shows how little many actually understand the world we are in and the nature of God. People would rather study the nuances of craft than actually get to the origin of scripture WAY before 2000bc.
Why pretend you know so much about Satan when you don’t know the scriptures. Satan didn’t write God wrote and Yeshua came to fufill the word of God through prophetic teachings to help the world see the light, especially the Jews. The Jews didn’t kill Yeshua the corrupt Rabbi/Roman political structure did. This thread reminds me of a crime committed before 20 people, the most prolific commentator’s are the ones who saw the least fact.
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Re: Why do Jews believe in Lucifer?
Hi, sorry for offending you. It is not my plan to offend the Jewish people.
I have no hate for the Jewish people nor lucifer. I was merely interested in this topic for theological reasons.


Do you even know any Jews personally or are you just repeating what you read on the internet?

I'm a Reform Jew. I don't believe in Lucifer and our concept of G-d is a bit more... abstract than the Judeo Christian belief of a man who sits watching and judging. Also, when attending synagogue services, I have never once heard or witnessed anything "shady" or "demonic" in nature. Everything is singing chants and prayers about forgiveness, about getting along, about doing good. Nothing unkind is ever said about non-jews and we are always encouraged to speak, to communicate, to help others and to be good. All kinds of people attend: doctors, lawyers, entrepreneurs, office workers, retired people. Some are great people, some I wouldn't waste my time on, but inside the temple, we are all the same. My favorite part is when we call in the children (there is an onsite daycare center we can use if we want) and we face each other, then we place our hands on their little heads and say a special blessing for our sons, and a separate one for our daughters, my daughter loves this as well. The blessings can be found here: [link to judaism.about.com]

Aside from the hebrew chants and prayers, it's not that much different than a Catholic mass (as my dad is Catholic I have attended those as well) except no Jesus and we don't do pagan things like "eating the body of" or "drinking the blood of". Or falling over speaking in tongues. We don't "recruit" people nor do we try to impose our beliefs on others.

What we all Jews share is thousands of years of history, of struggle, of survival. We are all interconnected by our DNA, that is what makes us stick together. Do we like money? The Jew has an unquenchable desire to provide for his/her family, it's inherent in us! We have a gift and are good at making money, but most of us are also extremely generous, as part of our dogma dictates that we help others and not just ourselves.

Everything is easily blamed on the Jews - you people confuse Zionism and Judaism and blame the evils of the world on "the Jews" while ignoring all of the bloodshed caused by you Christians and Catholics. What about the Chinese? The Japanese never did anything bad? Seriously?
You guys may make excellent electronics and technological advances but most of your businessmen, politicians and higher ups are pedophiles and into some sick perverse shit. You did horrible things to the Chinese and viceversa, so let's now discuss how that ties into your theological beliefs, shall we? Let's blame all the shit you did and continue to do (Fuku-fuking-shima, for fuck's sake) on your religious dogma. Make sense?

For fuck's sake, please take a good hard look at yourselves and all of your own sins and ask yourself - am I projecting my own self-hatred on an easy target like the Jews? Most people who claim to hate us know NOTHING about us. The scary part is you all could be anyone in the real world - my neighbor, a coworker, the cashier at the supermarket... scary shit and you all wonder why we only trust our own kind? You would too if you've been escaping extermination for thousands of years and still getting blamed and demonized for everything that is bad. Because the rest of the world didn't play a part in what we are seeing today, right?

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Hi, sorry for offending you. It is not my plan to offend the Jewish people.
I have no hate for the Jewish people nor lucifer. I was merely interested in this topic for theological reasons.

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Me as well.

It is a shame to see ego dragged into these things so quickly.

I also could have done a better job.

Did you get your answer, per chance?
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Re: Why do Jews believe in Lucifer?
how are you going to say gods special people follow Lucifer? yea there may be some "jews" that follow Lucifer but does that still make him a jew? there are "Christians" who follow Lucifer does that still make him a Christian? its all about perspective each person is diffrent
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If you are born of non-Jewish mother, you can't be Jewish.
It's not just religion that goes into equation.
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thereis no such thing as "Jew"
[link to www.viddler.com] :

John 8:44

Serpent Seed explained in 15 mins - John 8:44 Ye are of your FATHER the DEVIL... :
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Satan's Seedline Pt1 Aliens, Reptilians, Hybrid, Nephilim:
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Re: Why do Jews believe in Lucifer?
Have you guys felt that old testament feels like a message of a controlling psychopathic father, while the new testament feels more love based message?

Why do Jews believe in lucifer?there is something odd about the ok'd testament!!!
 Quoting: Questionairebillionaire 35002685
lucifer is a COMMON noun not a PROPER noun.It is latin.it is NOT the name of satan.It ought never have been put in the Bible.The word is BOASTFUL not shining and the word lucifer is wrong.But none of you will accept that.
the Bible tells you the name of satan.that old serpent named satan and the devil.IT DOESNTR MENTION LUCIFER!
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zionists jewz are devile worshipers ..look at their faces you get what i mean
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Here ya go...Not quite like the New Testament where Christians are reveling in healing the sick, raising the dead, caring for the poor, protecting the innocent and such.

Here we have a story of Ritual Murder, Late Night incantations and spells, revenge, sorcery, and other assorted interesting legends and fables.

The Jews, were alleged to, used the blood of Christian children in the preparation of their Passover bread.

The nations in whose midst the children of Israel were dwelling constantly accused them of ritual murder.

"Four elements," he said, "are required for the creation of the golem or homunculus, namely, earth, water, fire and air."

"in the fourth hour after midnight, the three men betook
themselves to a river on the outskirts of the city"

"You shall obey my commands and do all that I may require of you, go through fire, jump into water or throw yourself down from a high tower."

he used to suspend on his neck an amulet written on the skin of a hart, a talisman which rendered the man of clay invisible

[link to www.pitt.edu]

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Making a Homunculus? WTF? More Horror from Cabala...

The recipe consisted of a bag of bones, sperm, skin fragments and hair from any animal of which the homunculus would be a hybrid.

This was to be laid in the ground surrounded by horse manure for forty days, at which point the embryo would form.

There are also variants cited by other alchemists. One such
variant involved the use of the mandrake. Popular belief held that this plant grew where semen ejaculated by hanged men (during the last convulsive spasms before death) fell to the ground, and its roots vaguely resemble a human form to varying degrees.

The root was to be picked before dawn on a Friday morning by a black dog, then washed and "fed" with milk and honey and, in some prescriptions, blood.
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It's the Rothschild Zionists that believe in and worship Lucifer!!!
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Re: Why do Jews believe in Lucifer?
how are you going to say gods special people follow Lucifer? yea there may be some "jews" that follow Lucifer but does that still make him a jew? there are "Christians" who follow Lucifer does that still make him a Christian? its all about perspective each person is diffrent
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If you are born of non-Jewish mother, you can't be Jewish.
It's not just religion that goes into equation.
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thereis no such thing as a "Jew":

"Educate-Yourself":
[link to educate-yourself.org]
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Have you guys felt that old testament feels like a message of a controlling psychopathic father, while the new testament feels more love based message?

Why do Jews believe in lucifer?there is something odd about the ok'd testament!!!
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The Old Testament is about ancient astronauts, who fooled some of our people - all over the world, really - into thinking they were gods.
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Hi, sorry for offending you. It is not my plan to offend the Jewish people.
I have no hate for the Jewish people nor lucifer. I was merely interested in this topic for theological reasons.

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Me as well.

It is a shame to see ego dragged into these things so quickly.

I also could have done a better job.

Did you get your answer, per chance?
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rolleyes

Fine, you win.

Gematria is the True Torah and Lucifer is the True Jesus.

[link to www.gematrix.org]
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:japandrum: Most Japanese are intelligent, stop giving your country a bad name.
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I don't think most of us Japanese are
Intelligent. Maybe some are but most are average.

But it's just an observation about the old testament. I don't like the vibe it giving off. It's too restrictive for me. The energy feels like a fake light. I dunno whether it's adonai or lucifer whose fake but the old testament in
My book is written by a fake god.
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Yahweh was the boss astronaut, although sometimes I think there were others in the group that substituted as Yahweh.

Lucifer was the leader of the group that went from their ship to the surface of the planet to have sex with women. This got them kicked off the ship, and they were left here as a punishment. They're still here, pretending to be gods. We call them "illuminutties."
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You realize that the whole basis for Jesus being the messiah is suppose
to be based in Judiasm and the prophecies of the OT? If you reject the OT, you gotta throw out the NT as well.

And by the way, in case it hasn't been mentioned, (haven't read the whole thread) "Lucifer" is a title for a king of Babylon, not his name and NOT Satan.
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there is no such a thing called jew, jews are very few and mostly they live in yeman morocco and other parts of the arab world,

What you see AROUND YOU zionists converts ... tehy claim they converted to jewis faith, and they are NOT sematic.

THE ONLY SEMATIC people AROUND ARE ARABS AND SOME JEWS IN YEMAN.
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You realize that the whole basis for Jesus being the messiah is suppose
to be based in Judiasm and the prophecies of the OT? If you reject the OT, you gotta throw out the NT as well.

And by the way, in case it hasn't been mentioned, (haven't read the whole thread) "Lucifer" is a title for a king of Babylon, not his name and NOT Satan.
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yes
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So the bible is the message of adonai or Lucifer?

Because if the controlling psychopathic God of the old testament is what the Jews follow, that does not go in accordance with how Lucifer the light bearer who wants to liberate us from darkness. In my opinion, Old testament has scary vibe. Is this Lucifer or Adonai?
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So you're talking up lucifer now? What is your deal?
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The God of the OT was not psycho pathic, he was trying to funnel a select group of people into a long term evolutionary plan to find the people with the most "light" in their DNA so to speak.. All of us are LIGHT. The neurons in the brain fire off with electric impulses that can be seen firing and flashing like city lights.
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You might want to try looking up the word "psychopathic," and THEN go read the OT again.

Wishful thinking, dude - it won't get you anywhere.
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:japandrum: Most Japanese are intelligent, stop giving your country a bad name.
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I don't think most of us Japanese are
Intelligent. Maybe some are but most are average.

But it's just an observation about the old testament. I don't like the vibe it giving off. It's too restrictive for me. The energy feels like a fake light. I dunno whether it's adonai or lucifer whose fake but the old testament in
My book is written by a fake god.
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Yahweh was the boss astronaut, although sometimes I think there were others in the group that substituted as Yahweh.

Lucifer was the leader of the group that went from their ship to the surface of the planet to have sex with women. This got them kicked off the ship, and they were left here as a punishment. They're still here, pretending to be gods. We call them "illuminutties."
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Damn!They suspended my Galactic Pilot Licence
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This is the Pleiadian decree in Union with the Universal Council of Galaxies

You Lucien, Son of Jah of Alcyone Pleiades, is hereby sentenced to have all your titles stripped of acknowledgement and use in representation as a Pleiadian and Universal Membership. Your Piloting license is forever suspended. You will not be accessed to any craft or be allowed to pilot any craft inside or beyond earth’s atmosphere. Your computer fingerprint and Iris code and voice command will be deactivated. You will not be able to use any Pleiadian computer. You will not have possession of Star Chart programs and any updates and discoveries of Universal Missions will not be given you , nor any scientific documents pertaining or relating to your research into planetary primitive DNA.

Your Father’s research into the Homo Erectus species of earth and his and yours project will be halted from any further development of the so named Homo Sapien of your creation. The subjects of earth will be halted from any further experimentation. All lab equipment will be removed from the premises . All records of the DNA transfusion experiment will be confiscated

Earth is hereby quarantined to allow the natural development of its evolution, including to and adapting to you and your Brothers and Fathers intervention in the Matter which was granted by the Universal Council and Withdrawn. A separate case is pending.

All craft in either of the named Galaxies will be severely limited in access to earth. We will erect detectors to monitor exploration activity that will not be allowed during the indefinite quarantine of Earth which has sofar been sentenced to ___thousands of years. All technology will be forbidden to the Homo Sapien species. They are to live in their natural environment except to be taught primitive agriculture and weaving and simple tools. No Pleiadian will be allowed to show the Homo Sapiens any of our knowledge or they will be justly sentenced.

Your Father and Brother and sufficient number of researchers can stay and monitor the Homo Sapiens activity. However they will be allowed full transport to Pleiades whenever they wish, granted that they return to earth to give sufficient reports on the activities of the Homo Sapiens and their health

Lucien, Son of Jah is hereby though, sentenced for life in the vicinity of the lower atmosphere and land mass of earth.

He can never be allowed travel to Pleiades, nor any planet of the Universe, including those not within the Council. He will be allowed some technology and materials for his comfort but he will be required to settle away from the Homo Sapiens and have no contact of influence with them.
All his titles as Prince of Pleiades, Ambassador, Chief Pilot of the Fleet, Computer Designer, and Master of Technological Science will be stripped, He will be allowed Holographic conferences with his family, but forbidden to live with his family members. We will allow one visit a year.

There will be no appeal in his sentencing before his natural death on Earth, He is to be quarantined, as well as the Homo Erectus and Sapien Species. He is not allowed to be near any female of species of either type.

This sentencing of the Son of Jah, Lucifer to the vicinity of the earth is hearby sealed this day in front of the council of Universal Witnesses and his Father.

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Isn't is funny (ironic) that reading Jesus in the new testament is simple and clear. Accept me and my sacrifice for you, love as best you can like I do, and honor your father and creator God. Someday in the after life, God will allow us to follow him in his image...we will be creating the universe in joy and spend eternity in an endless fantastic experience with all of his children. We will be Godlike in our abilities and gifts. The only price will be following the laws of love and respect of each other. Easy to do in an existence without sin and evil.

The door is open to all and does not require a lifetime of study and exclusion. It is open to the mentally challenged, the poor, the sinners...all.

In opposition, we get people (?) like Apollyon blabalot that tell us that the road to godhood is secretive, selective, and only available to a "special" group of like-minded narcissists that have a true disdain and dislike of most of God's creation. Their "god" chose them in their eyes, and they love to feel exclusive.

They will truly morn the moment when they cross over and find that they have been fed a bowl of excrement. Hopefully God has a school for the lost, because otherwise it is down the poop shoot for some.
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Lucifer was simply from another planet. and he mated with Eve and had kids, Those kids started making metals, technology etc..cause they inherited their Fathers intelligence. Not hard to figure out.
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Aren't you confusing Lucifer with Tubal-Cain?
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Please, I dont have to explain it here..the story of Tubal Cain is not allowed for open public exposure.
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Can you please tell me the date this message was posted on the original source?

No response is necessary if you cannot. peace
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Lucifer was simply from another planet. and he mated with Eve and had kids, Those kids started making metals, technology etc..cause they inherited their Fathers intelligence. Not hard to figure out.
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Aren't you confusing Lucifer with Tubal-Cain?
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Please, I dont have to explain it here..the story of Tubal Cain is not allowed for open public exposure.
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shitstir2
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Genesis 4:22

Amplified Bible (AMP)


22 Zillah bore Tubal-cain; he was the forger of all [cutting] instruments of bronze and iron. The sister of Tubal-cain was Naamah.
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I heard witches prefer the colour blue on Saturdays.
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saturn day = worship of satan.

blue = water = higher density = deception = enki.
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Saturn is a planet, consider a god and was not satan. Saturday is named after Saturn, not satan
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According to Rabi Finkelstein, Lucifer fell on earth 75.000 years ago.

This period in human history is liked with rapid brain power increase, speech ability developing, better hunting tools, etc.

Don't forget that OT revels us that fallen angels can have children with women.

Makes you wonder.
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THIS ^^^

At least Jews are smarter than most Christians,

A talking snake, really? Is that what Christians teach in sunday school still?

Lucifer was simply from another planet. and he mated with Eve and had kids, Those kids started making metals, technology etc..cause they inherited their Fathers intelligence. Not hard to figure out.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


So Lucifer was a rebel ET, meanwhile the God(s) were the ones that were against interbreeding with primitive humans? Makes some sense, thinking about it.
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10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

Isaiah 14:12
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!


13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.

20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities
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Re: Why do Jews believe in Lucifer?
According to Rabi Finkelstein, Lucifer fell on earth 75.000 years ago.

This period in human history is liked with rapid brain power increase, speech ability developing, better hunting tools, etc.

Don't forget that OT revels us that fallen angels can have children with women.

Makes you wonder.
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THIS ^^^

At least Jews are smarter than most Christians,

A talking snake, really? Is that what Christians teach in sunday school still?

Lucifer was simply from another planet. and he mated with Eve and had kids, Those kids started making metals, technology etc..cause they inherited their Fathers intelligence. Not hard to figure out.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


So Lucifer was a rebel ET, meanwhile the God(s) were the ones that were against interbreeding with primitive humans? Makes some sense, thinking about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35016150


10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

Isaiah 14:12
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!


13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.

20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31656575


“— Menachem Begin - Israeli Prime Minister 1977–1983:
"The Jewish people as a whole will become its own Messiah. It will attain world dominion by the dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy and by the establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will everywhere exercise the privilege of citizenship. “

15. Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."
“In this New World Order the children of Israel will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition. The Governments of the different peoples forming the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property and everywhere to make use of the resources of the state. Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which is said that when the Messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole world in their hands." — Baruch Levy, Letter to Karl Marx, 'La Revue de Paris', p.574, June 1, 1928”
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Re: Why do Jews believe in Lucifer?
Have you guys felt that old testament feels like a message of a controlling psychopathic father, while the new testament feels more love based message?

Why do Jews believe in lucifer?there is something odd about the ok'd testament!!!
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Because Lucifer is the "light bearer" in our DNA that makes us human.

DNA intuition

The Phosp-Horus in each of us. Without phosphorus, consciousness and spiritual energy would not exist. It is what makes us human.

Meditation

The phosphorus atom has the characteristic of firing in our blood. This is why those who worshiped the Baal, AKA the Father and Lord, had instituted fire-worship such as the Druids who would be the descendants of the same Jews you speak of.

Temple

“The soul of every sort of flesh is its blood.” (Le 17:14). For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life. Leviticus 17:11

DNA nceint Drawi

The father is Amun or Amon which is our Hippocampus (Ammon's Horn) in which the father of the temple resides.

Jupiter Amon

He is the most high.

Moses Amon
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Phosphorous is prevalent in every creature, not only in humans.
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Wait a second, are you telling me that the "light" is within every creature and plant in nature. The beginning and the end? Hence, without it, there is no fire, light or life. WOW!

Lucifer, I mean Phosp-horus is one powerful source of energy. “Phosphorus is an essential and irreplaceable element for all forms of life and it’s not renewable.”

Revelation 22:13 - I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
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Re: Why do Jews believe in Lucifer?
how are you going to say gods special people follow Lucifer? yea there may be some "jews" that follow Lucifer but does that still make him a jew? there are "Christians" who follow Lucifer does that still make him a Christian? its all about perspective each person is diffrent
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If you are born of non-Jewish mother, you can't be Jewish.
It's not just religion that goes into equation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35004347


Yep, it's a trait passed through the mitochondrial dna and that involves a total lack of empathy for all other humans. Attila the Hun sort of stuff. Normal humans have empathy built into their dna that ordinarily put's limits on their harming others through a feeling of guilt, a conscious. One but be very careful to understand the fact that a jew and an Israelite are not the same thing, Israelites MUST be of Semitic origins. The Palestinians are real Israelites and this is why the Ashkenazim seek to kill them all..Ashkenazim are Kabbalists, devil worshipers to put in the simplest of terms.

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