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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35016150 02/23/2013 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to Rabi Finkelstein, Lucifer fell on earth 75.000 years ago. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35004347 This period in human history is liked with rapid brain power increase, speech ability developing, better hunting tools, etc. Don't forget that OT revels us that fallen angels can have children with women. Makes you wonder. THIS ^^^ At least Jews are smarter than most Christians, A talking snake, really? Is that what Christians teach in sunday school still? Lucifer was simply from another planet. and he mated with Eve and had kids, Those kids started making metals, technology etc..cause they inherited their Fathers intelligence. Not hard to figure out. So Lucifer was a rebel ET, meanwhile the God(s) were the ones that were against interbreeding with primitive humans? Makes some sense, thinking about it. |
| Tantalus User ID: 25753952 02/23/2013 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jewish holy day is Saturday. Saturday is Saturns Day. Saturn is their God. Saturn and Satan are the same word in Hebrew. Satan = Lucifer. Lucifer means Bearer/Bringer of Light. If you are in the presence of a Bringer of Light, you are Illuminated. Illuminati. Last Edited by Tantalus on 02/23/2013 01:06 PM "Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither" --Benjamin Franlkin No one ever said freedom was safe. Upon true understanding of the concepts of freedom, you shall realize that freedom is the most dangerous choice of lifestyle. There are no guarantees in freedom but those one provides for themselves, at their own will. True freedom comes with extreme personal risk. Are you willing to take the risk? Thread: No One Ever Said Freedom Was Safe - A Short Thesis on Gun Control |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31189143 02/23/2013 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Jews carry out the mission of Lucifer... to spread the light, or the possibilities (via hollywood/music, multiculturalism, etc.) and thereby crash the matrix. How? The matrix is built on uniform thought processes. The light that informs one spirit can distract the ego of another. Through natural free will the two go their separate ways and the matrix breaks down. It's why they get hated on a lot by dictators and those heavily based in cultural pride. When you get comfortable in a prison cell you tend to scoff at the guy trying to sneak you in the master key. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25953791 2 questions: do you actually believe this? and who taught you this pile of garbage? |
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| Tantalus User ID: 25753952 02/23/2013 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | False. Quoting: AllSeeingEye 4341242 Jew's do NOT believe in Hell, so why would they believe in the devil. Jew's killed Jesus, the son of God. Who in the right mind would kill the son of God??? I'll tell you.....a person who doesn't believe in hell, nor lucifer. Many would rather rule in Hell than serve in Heavan. Just think about that for a minute. "Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither" --Benjamin Franlkin No one ever said freedom was safe. Upon true understanding of the concepts of freedom, you shall realize that freedom is the most dangerous choice of lifestyle. There are no guarantees in freedom but those one provides for themselves, at their own will. True freedom comes with extreme personal risk. Are you willing to take the risk? Thread: No One Ever Said Freedom Was Safe - A Short Thesis on Gun Control |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34996846 02/23/2013 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have you guys felt that old testament feels like a message of a controlling psychopathic father, while the new testament feels more love based message? Quoting: Questionairebillionaire 35002685 Why do Jews believe in lucifer?there is something odd about the ok'd testament!!! Because Lucifer is the "light bearer" in our DNA that makes us human. :DNA intuition: The Phosp-Horus in each of us. Without phosphorus, consciousness and spiritual energy would not exist. It is what makes us human. :Meditation: The phosphorus atom has the characteristic of firing in our blood. This is why those who worshiped the Baal, AKA the Father and Lord, had instituted fire-worship such as the Druids who would be the descendants of the same Jews you speak of. :Temple: “The soul of every sort of flesh is its blood.” (Le 17:14). For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life. Leviticus 17:11 :DNA nceint Drawi: The father is Amun or Amon which is our Hippocampus (Ammon's Horn) in which the father of the temple resides. :Jupiter Amon: He is the most high. :Moses Amon: Phosphorous is prevalent in every creature, not only in humans. |
| Newheart G. Yishai JC User ID: 25567776 02/23/2013 01:11 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And I will turn my hand upon thee, and purely purge away thy dross, and take away all thy tin. Isaiah 1:25 Discipline is the refining fire by which talent becomes ability. I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith. John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31189143 02/23/2013 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The truth is if you think Jews worship Satan, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1425587 and you've actually read the Hebrew bible, you're just not very intelligent. God of Israel loves nature and animals with all his soul and despises man, which he says over and over again. does that sound like Lucifer the lightbearer? these new age theorists are retarded... umm excuse me God did not despise man. Lucifer did. He was jealous that Daddy was spending too much time with Adam ..who was made of clay. God created Man ... Lucifer was jealous. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35005461 02/23/2013 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The truth is if you think Jews worship Satan, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1425587 and you've actually read the Hebrew bible, you're just not very intelligent. God of Israel loves nature and animals with all his soul and despises man, which he says over and over again. does that sound like Lucifer the lightbearer? these new age theorists are retarded... umm excuse me God did not despise man. Lucifer did. He was jealous that Daddy was spending too much time with Adam ..who was made of clay. God created Man ... Lucifer was jealous. You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God” (Exodus 20:4-5). Assuming the arrogant pose of a solar deity, Yaldabaoth falsely believes himself to be the only god in the entire cosmos. Thus, for Gnostics, the identification of Yaldabaoth with Jehovah of the Old Testament, a deity who suffers from this very complex of cosmic egotism. Overseen by Yaldabaoth, the Archons now proceed to fabricate the planetary system from the inorganic elements of which them themselves are composed. As they have no intentionality (ennoia) and no creative capacity (epinoia) of their own, they can only do this by imitation. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 766909 02/23/2013 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Satan and his angels are not from planet earth, but using the jews to do their bidding is especially enjoyable since it mocks Jesus and all the disciples and early followers who were Jewish. Using the jews to conquer the world for Satan is just a way of humiliating Christ and Christianity, but they can and do control anyone of any race. Some people are controlled and possessed by good spirits, but they are much weaker and a much smaller force, just trying to save a few people here and there. They are basically interplanetary AETH organization, Aliens for the Ethical Treatment of Humans. And the whole star of david and the two intersecting triangles, representing the phallus and the vagina, that is the religion of Satan, not Judaism. The obelisk and egyptian stuff, Osiris and isis, they represent the so called masculine and feminine forces of the universe, or as they call them, the active and passive principles. Even the so called good people, really worship and obey evil, they are subconsciously mesmerized by it, they feel good about evil, and therefore it is good to them. That is sort of the nature of this whole Illuminait thing, the people at the top are child killing, raping satanists, and the so called moral and good people at the bottom, basically feed off their satanic power, they just get a wonderful healing from it, but don't understand it, they worship the life force, and think it originates in the good, but the people at the top know where it really comes from, understand it's true nature and why their vaginal flunkies really worship them. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7682049 02/23/2013 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jewish holy day is Saturday. Quoting: Tantalus Saturday is Saturns Day. Saturn is their God. Saturn and Satan are the same word in Hebrew. Satan = Lucifer. Lucifer means Bearer/Bringer of Light. If you are in the presence of a Bringer of Light, you are Illuminated. Illuminati. It is called Hasatan (the enemy) in any form of face you want to put it in and it is here and well on GLP. The misinformation by the self-appointed professors is to the point that lack of intelligence is becoming overwhelming. People for security I guess attach a personality and pictures to reinforce their idea of who and what it is. Hasatan doesn’t have horns or demonic body any more than a follower of God has a halo (that you can see). The whole idea is to create a psychological disturbance to the senses. The true identity is deception plain and simple. Deception is the mask. Some wonderful ly imaginative art does not portray at all, a white piece of paper is more demonic. Understanding the scripture has ill-logical apparently. Every time people open one of these threads relating to the scriptures it overwhelmingly shows how little many actually understand the world we are in and the nature of God. People would rather study the nuances of craft than actually get to the origin of scripture WAY before 2000bc. Why pretend you know so much about Satan when you don’t know the scriptures. Satan didn’t write God wrote and Yeshua came to fufill the word of God through prophetic teachings to help the world see the light, especially the Jews. The Jews didn’t kill Yeshua the corrupt Rabbi/Roman political structure did. This thread reminds me of a crime committed before 20 people, the most prolific commentator’s are the ones who saw the least fact. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 35002685 02/23/2013 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi, sorry for offending you. It is not my plan to offend the Jewish people. I have no hate for the Jewish people nor lucifer. I was merely interested in this topic for theological reasons. Do you even know any Jews personally or are you just repeating what you read on the internet? Quoting: MartianPrincess I'm a Reform Jew. I don't believe in Lucifer and our concept of G-d is a bit more... abstract than the Judeo Christian belief of a man who sits watching and judging. Also, when attending synagogue services, I have never once heard or witnessed anything "shady" or "demonic" in nature. Everything is singing chants and prayers about forgiveness, about getting along, about doing good. Nothing unkind is ever said about non-jews and we are always encouraged to speak, to communicate, to help others and to be good. All kinds of people attend: doctors, lawyers, entrepreneurs, office workers, retired people. Some are great people, some I wouldn't waste my time on, but inside the temple, we are all the same. My favorite part is when we call in the children (there is an onsite daycare center we can use if we want) and we face each other, then we place our hands on their little heads and say a special blessing for our sons, and a separate one for our daughters, my daughter loves this as well. The blessings can be found here: [link to judaism.about.com] Aside from the hebrew chants and prayers, it's not that much different than a Catholic mass (as my dad is Catholic I have attended those as well) except no Jesus and we don't do pagan things like "eating the body of" or "drinking the blood of". Or falling over speaking in tongues. We don't "recruit" people nor do we try to impose our beliefs on others. What we all Jews share is thousands of years of history, of struggle, of survival. We are all interconnected by our DNA, that is what makes us stick together. Do we like money? The Jew has an unquenchable desire to provide for his/her family, it's inherent in us! We have a gift and are good at making money, but most of us are also extremely generous, as part of our dogma dictates that we help others and not just ourselves. Everything is easily blamed on the Jews - you people confuse Zionism and Judaism and blame the evils of the world on "the Jews" while ignoring all of the bloodshed caused by you Christians and Catholics. What about the Chinese? The Japanese never did anything bad? Seriously? You guys may make excellent electronics and technological advances but most of your businessmen, politicians and higher ups are pedophiles and into some sick perverse shit. You did horrible things to the Chinese and viceversa, so let's now discuss how that ties into your theological beliefs, shall we? Let's blame all the shit you did and continue to do (Fuku-fuking-shima, for fuck's sake) on your religious dogma. Make sense? For fuck's sake, please take a good hard look at yourselves and all of your own sins and ask yourself - am I projecting my own self-hatred on an easy target like the Jews? Most people who claim to hate us know NOTHING about us. The scary part is you all could be anyone in the real world - my neighbor, a coworker, the cashier at the supermarket... scary shit and you all wonder why we only trust our own kind? You would too if you've been escaping extermination for thousands of years and still getting blamed and demonized for everything that is bad. Because the rest of the world didn't play a part in what we are seeing today, right? :stfugtfo: |
| Azeratel Axo Stellatus Oculus, alchimia Spiritus Sancti A User ID: 20063747 02/23/2013 01:43 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi, sorry for offending you. It is not my plan to offend the Jewish people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35002685 I have no hate for the Jewish people nor lucifer. I was merely interested in this topic for theological reasons. Me as well. It is a shame to see ego dragged into these things so quickly. I also could have done a better job. Did you get your answer, per chance? . .... ~ Espíritu Santo (A) Fuego blanco Arco iris: frío Cuchillas, la trueno, radius Vector! ~ 'Iris Stellata Animata Resonata' ~ {§6490} / (Albo Lupus-Ursae, vocem de glacialis invio!) {§oNoN/GoQo} {Ater ¢¢ Petra °°° surculus} ~ {'Quod Nullus Tam odio'} 'Laeva Ocula Sinistra, id Telæ ultimus cyphra, excusus a ex ias' ~ Ego constitutus est a meus Adonai Y H V H de, a Anunnaki et Elohim: Iosue ego sum id; et tu tuebor, O Zorobabel. ~{§/3360; 5492} "Y aunque ande en Valle de Sombra de Muerte, no temeré mal alguno, porque Tú estarás conmigo: Tu vara y Tu cayado, me infundirán aliento... ~ {§ 787 § 6138}~{exo Thelema, "Fac quod vis": Lex Solus, Exclusiva omnium aliorum / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~ ... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31656575 02/23/2013 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how are you going to say gods special people follow Lucifer? yea there may be some "jews" that follow Lucifer but does that still make him a jew? there are "Christians" who follow Lucifer does that still make him a Christian? its all about perspective each person is diffrent Quoting: LeoDaLion If you are born of non-Jewish mother, you can't be Jewish. It's not just religion that goes into equation. thereis no such thing as "Jew" [link to www.viddler.com] : John 8:44 Serpent Seed explained in 15 mins - John 8:44 Ye are of your FATHER the DEVIL... : [link to www.youtube.com] Satan's Seedline Pt1 Aliens, Reptilians, Hybrid, Nephilim: [link to www.youtube.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13813766 02/23/2013 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have you guys felt that old testament feels like a message of a controlling psychopathic father, while the new testament feels more love based message? Quoting: Questionairebillionaire 35002685 Why do Jews believe in lucifer?there is something odd about the ok'd testament!!! the Bible tells you the name of satan.that old serpent named satan and the devil.IT DOESNTR MENTION LUCIFER! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35016139 02/23/2013 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here ya go...Not quite like the New Testament where Christians are reveling in healing the sick, raising the dead, caring for the poor, protecting the innocent and such. Here we have a story of Ritual Murder, Late Night incantations and spells, revenge, sorcery, and other assorted interesting legends and fables. The Jews, were alleged to, used the blood of Christian children in the preparation of their Passover bread. The nations in whose midst the children of Israel were dwelling constantly accused them of ritual murder. "Four elements," he said, "are required for the creation of the golem or homunculus, namely, earth, water, fire and air." "in the fourth hour after midnight, the three men betook themselves to a river on the outskirts of the city" "You shall obey my commands and do all that I may require of you, go through fire, jump into water or throw yourself down from a high tower." he used to suspend on his neck an amulet written on the skin of a hart, a talisman which rendered the man of clay invisible [link to www.pitt.edu] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Making a Homunculus? WTF? More Horror from Cabala... The recipe consisted of a bag of bones, sperm, skin fragments and hair from any animal of which the homunculus would be a hybrid. This was to be laid in the ground surrounded by horse manure for forty days, at which point the embryo would form. There are also variants cited by other alchemists. One such variant involved the use of the mandrake. Popular belief held that this plant grew where semen ejaculated by hanged men (during the last convulsive spasms before death) fell to the ground, and its roots vaguely resemble a human form to varying degrees. The root was to be picked before dawn on a Friday morning by a black dog, then washed and "fed" with milk and honey and, in some prescriptions, blood. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31656575 02/23/2013 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how are you going to say gods special people follow Lucifer? yea there may be some "jews" that follow Lucifer but does that still make him a jew? there are "Christians" who follow Lucifer does that still make him a Christian? its all about perspective each person is diffrent Quoting: LeoDaLion If you are born of non-Jewish mother, you can't be Jewish. It's not just religion that goes into equation. thereis no such thing as a "Jew": "Educate-Yourself": [link to educate-yourself.org] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35002810 02/23/2013 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have you guys felt that old testament feels like a message of a controlling psychopathic father, while the new testament feels more love based message? Quoting: Questionairebillionaire 35002685 Why do Jews believe in lucifer?there is something odd about the ok'd testament!!! The Old Testament is about ancient astronauts, who fooled some of our people - all over the world, really - into thinking they were gods. |
| Azeratel Axo Stellatus Oculus, alchimia Spiritus Sancti A User ID: 20063747 02/23/2013 02:15 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi, sorry for offending you. It is not my plan to offend the Jewish people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35002685 I have no hate for the Jewish people nor lucifer. I was merely interested in this topic for theological reasons. Me as well. It is a shame to see ego dragged into these things so quickly. I also could have done a better job. Did you get your answer, per chance? Fine, you win. Gematria is the True Torah and Lucifer is the True Jesus. [link to www.gematrix.org] . .... ~ Espíritu Santo (A) Fuego blanco Arco iris: frío Cuchillas, la trueno, radius Vector! ~ 'Iris Stellata Animata Resonata' ~ {§6490} / (Albo Lupus-Ursae, vocem de glacialis invio!) {§oNoN/GoQo} {Ater ¢¢ Petra °°° surculus} ~ {'Quod Nullus Tam odio'} 'Laeva Ocula Sinistra, id Telæ ultimus cyphra, excusus a ex ias' ~ Ego constitutus est a meus Adonai Y H V H de, a Anunnaki et Elohim: Iosue ego sum id; et tu tuebor, O Zorobabel. ~{§/3360; 5492} "Y aunque ande en Valle de Sombra de Muerte, no temeré mal alguno, porque Tú estarás conmigo: Tu vara y Tu cayado, me infundirán aliento... ~ {§ 787 § 6138}~{exo Thelema, "Fac quod vis": Lex Solus, Exclusiva omnium aliorum / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~ ... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35002810 02/23/2013 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think most of us Japanese are Intelligent. Maybe some are but most are average. But it's just an observation about the old testament. I don't like the vibe it giving off. It's too restrictive for me. The energy feels like a fake light. I dunno whether it's adonai or lucifer whose fake but the old testament in My book is written by a fake god. Yahweh was the boss astronaut, although sometimes I think there were others in the group that substituted as Yahweh. Lucifer was the leader of the group that went from their ship to the surface of the planet to have sex with women. This got them kicked off the ship, and they were left here as a punishment. They're still here, pretending to be gods. We call them "illuminutties." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1705024 02/23/2013 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You realize that the whole basis for Jesus being the messiah is suppose to be based in Judiasm and the prophecies of the OT? If you reject the OT, you gotta throw out the NT as well. And by the way, in case it hasn't been mentioned, (haven't read the whole thread) "Lucifer" is a title for a king of Babylon, not his name and NOT Satan. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34924171 02/23/2013 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there is no such a thing called jew, jews are very few and mostly they live in yeman morocco and other parts of the arab world, What you see AROUND YOU zionists converts ... tehy claim they converted to jewis faith, and they are NOT sematic. THE ONLY SEMATIC people AROUND ARE ARABS AND SOME JEWS IN YEMAN. |
| Azeratel Axo Stellatus Oculus, alchimia Spiritus Sancti A User ID: 20063747 02/23/2013 02:21 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You realize that the whole basis for Jesus being the messiah is suppose Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1705024 to be based in Judiasm and the prophecies of the OT? If you reject the OT, you gotta throw out the NT as well. And by the way, in case it hasn't been mentioned, (haven't read the whole thread) "Lucifer" is a title for a king of Babylon, not his name and NOT Satan. ![]() . .... ~ Espíritu Santo (A) Fuego blanco Arco iris: frío Cuchillas, la trueno, radius Vector! ~ 'Iris Stellata Animata Resonata' ~ {§6490} / (Albo Lupus-Ursae, vocem de glacialis invio!) {§oNoN/GoQo} {Ater ¢¢ Petra °°° surculus} ~ {'Quod Nullus Tam odio'} 'Laeva Ocula Sinistra, id Telæ ultimus cyphra, excusus a ex ias' ~ Ego constitutus est a meus Adonai Y H V H de, a Anunnaki et Elohim: Iosue ego sum id; et tu tuebor, O Zorobabel. ~{§/3360; 5492} "Y aunque ande en Valle de Sombra de Muerte, no temeré mal alguno, porque Tú estarás conmigo: Tu vara y Tu cayado, me infundirán aliento... ~ {§ 787 § 6138}~{exo Thelema, "Fac quod vis": Lex Solus, Exclusiva omnium aliorum / Papaver somniferum var. paeoniflorum et Cannabis sativa var. indicae} ~ ... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35002810 02/23/2013 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the bible is the message of adonai or Lucifer? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27593243 Because if the controlling psychopathic God of the old testament is what the Jews follow, that does not go in accordance with how Lucifer the light bearer who wants to liberate us from darkness. In my opinion, Old testament has scary vibe. Is this Lucifer or Adonai? So you're talking up lucifer now? What is your deal? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35002810 02/23/2013 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The God of the OT was not psycho pathic, he was trying to funnel a select group of people into a long term evolutionary plan to find the people with the most "light" in their DNA so to speak.. All of us are LIGHT. The neurons in the brain fire off with electric impulses that can be seen firing and flashing like city lights. Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON You might want to try looking up the word "psychopathic," and THEN go read the OT again. Wishful thinking, dude - it won't get you anywhere. |