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Getting rid of even one TSA thug is worth anything. Maybe Obama's budget cuts, which HE proposed, can be used to furlough HIM.
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clappa I am with you on this one. I am tired of the lefts scare tactics, it is a constant thing they do and it works for the low information voter.
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All the above. In addition, I'm tired of both sides of governments scare tactics.

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Getting rid of even one TSA thug is worth anything. Maybe Obama's budget cuts, which HE proposed, can be used to furlough HIM.
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clappa I am with you on this one. I am tired of the lefts scare tactics, it is a constant thing they do and it works for the low information voter.
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"low information voter" Is this PC for dumb asses?
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Getting rid of even one TSA thug is worth anything. Maybe Obama's budget cuts, which HE proposed, can be used to furlough HIM.
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Don't just Furlough them...fire the whole fuckin' lot of them!!!

Airports can get private security for less money than they have to pay the Govt for TSA...

This is a scare tactic, and yes they probably will slow things down just to create a backlash, but it's bullshit, your local airport can fix this in a heartbeat by firing TSA and going private security!!!
 Quoting: Saddletramp



THIS!

Airports do have the option of hiring private security, but I think it is with the 'approval' of DHS or TSA, don't remember which. (Sorry to be vague on this; I didn't research it)
Wonder how many have tried and actually did it or have been turned down?

People need to demand their local Airport Authority hire their own security!
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TSA Employees furloughed.....

False flag "terrorist" action takes place a one or more airports....

TSA is sent back with more unconstitutional authority (note difference between lawful and legal)...

More draconian laws written.

Never let an opportunity go to waste!

Oh, and the terrorist will be a pregnant white former military woman.
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I think there will be a turn that, instead of furloughing all of the proposed TSA employees, that they will be "reassigned" to other public transit means, within terminals (already happening), and, of course, the Interstate system under the continued guise of anti-terrorism.

If so, a simple trip to the grocery will be an exercise of operating under an iron curtain. Some will surely object to these "check points", and the ensuing unrest/ opposition will be the fuel necessary and already calculated in to further the emplacement of even more restrictions.

The emplacement of additional checks and restrictions will lead to not only the Interstate system, but on your primary roads, and will even grow to within your local grocery or even Walmart in your town.

How will all of this be staffed, since they're already talking of furloughing so many people currently, you ask?

1) The "new threats" - translating to American citizens fed up with this encroachment - will "justify" a new budget line for funding.

2) O & Co. can (will) issue an new EO prioritizing the funding and support of the new program, in response to the "New threats".

3) This creates the PERFECT scenario for utilizing the youths in mandatory service discussed here in the last few days. Even as "support" personnel, these minions will be brainwashed to believing they are doing their part in opposing these dissidents opposing the new program(s).

"This business will get out of control. It will get out of control, and we'll be lucky to live through it"
Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
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They can still afford billions of hollow points though!
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Don't forget the vast armada of our glorious empire overseas.

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bsflagbsflagbsflag

The sequester will result in $22Billion being cut from this years $1.2Trillion dollar budget.

None of this even happened when the government actually DID shut down in the early '90s yet, somehow, today, $22 Billion in cuts will grind the nation to a hault.

Take your bullshit and shove it up your ass.
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[link to www.faa.gov]

February 22– To prepare for the possibility of a budget sequestration on March 1, 2013, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is making plans to reduce its expenditures by approximately $600 million for the remainder of Fiscal Year 2013.

Among the changes we are considering are furloughing the vast majority of our 47,000 employees for approximately one day per pay period; closing over 100 air traffic control facilities; eliminating the overnight shift at over 60 facilities; and reducing preventive maintenance and support for all air traffic control equipment. All of these changes will be finalized as to scope and details through collaborative discussions with our users and our unions.

We will begin furloughs and start facility shut-downs in April. You can read more about this process in this letter from Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood and FAA Administrator Michael Huerta (PDF).

The lists of affected facilities can be viewed here:

Facilities Where Overnight Shifts Could be Eliminated (PDF)
Air Traffic Control Facilities That Could be Closed (PDF)
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Hahahahahahaha! $600 million? When the Fed is pumping $85 BILLION a MONTH into the markets? Come on, ffs......
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bsflagbsflagbsflag

The sequester will result in $22Billion being cut from this years $1.2Trillion dollar budget.

None of this even happened when the government actually DID shut down in the early '90s yet, somehow, today, $22 Billion in cuts will grind the nation to a hault.

Take your bullshit and shove it up your ass.
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Well- since obviously you seem to know something that the rest of us don't, how about sharing?
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The Sequester will never happen. The demorepubs will sign off on it at the last minute. The only reason it is being done in secret right now is because it was the Kenyans idea.

No sequester is gonna happen

Watch !
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This is such a load of fucking bullshit. They are holding the country to ransom - and it's all fake! None of this shit needs to close down. Just fire some of the millions of new government employees hired over the last 4 years. Just close a department or two. Just stop spending more fucking money on shit!

Fake fake fake. Stupid ignorant fucking public.
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This thread, plus this:
Thread: Pentagon grounds entire $400B fleet of F-35 fighter jets after finding crack in engine blade

Attack NOW!!! explosionTank
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TSA Employees furloughed.....

False flag "terrorist" action takes place a one or more airports....

TSA is sent back with more unconstitutional authority (note difference between lawful and legal)...

More draconian laws written.

Never let an opportunity go to waste!

Oh, and the terrorist will be a pregnant white former military woman.
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lol
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Thanks for linking the thread.
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how is this going to affect glp funding?
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Why in the hell do you even come here you moron?
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Getting rid of even one TSA thug is worth anything. Maybe Obama's budget cuts, which HE proposed, can be used to furlough HIM.
 Quoting: Mr. Weird


clappa I am with you on this one. I am tired of the lefts scare tactics, it is a constant thing they do and it works for the low information voter.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


"low information voter" Is this PC for dumb asses?
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You got it.
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Want to cut down domestic terrorism? Furlough the FBI.
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bsflagbsflagbsflag

The sequester will result in $22Billion being cut from this years $1.2Trillion dollar budget.

None of this even happened when the government actually DID shut down in the early '90s yet, somehow, today, $22 Billion in cuts will grind the nation to a hault.

Take your bullshit and shove it up your ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30981074


Well first off...we don't have a budget, and we haven't had one in 4 years now...

Second, it will be 100 Billion in cuts this year, knocking about 22 Billion off of the deficit, which is still projected to run around 1 to 1.2 Trillion...

Govt spending however is over 3 trillion...

However I agree with you, these cuts are not that big, and they are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

And if they do have that big an effect, we should be asking ourselves, why? If the Govt is still spending 3 trillion plus each year, how come they can't afford to gas up the Carriers or keep the lights on at the Airports?!?!? Where is all of that money going?!?!?

But of course we have no clear answer...because again, we haven't had a budget since the deficit ballooned to over a trillion dollars a year, four years ago...

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I gotta spend your money or you'll die!
I gotta spend your money or you'll die!
So save yourselves today!
Don't get in my way!
I gotta spend your money or you'll die!

I gotta spend your grandkids money or you'll die!
I gotta spend your grandkids money or you'll die!
So sign the IOU!
Cause what I say is true!
I gotta spend your grandkids money or you'll die!

The planes can't fly unless you're poor!
The planes can't fly unless you're poor!
They'll just sit on the ground!
No pilots to be found!
The planes can't fly unless you're poor!
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Getting rid of even one TSA thug is worth anything. Maybe Obama's budget cuts, which HE proposed, can be used to furlough HIM.
 Quoting: Mr. Weird


Don't just Furlough them...fire the whole fuckin' lot of them!!!

Airports can get private security for less money than they have to pay the Govt for TSA...

This is a scare tactic, and yes they probably will slow things down just to create a backlash, but it's bullshit, your local airport can fix this in a heartbeat by firing TSA and going private security!!!
 Quoting: Saddletramp


clappa
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People! You don't get it. There are no cuts period, only less increase in spending than budgeted. Slower rate of spending does no equal cuts. Stop saying cuts. DF

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People! You don't get it. There are no cuts period, only less increase in spending than budgeted. Slower rate of spending does no equal cuts. Stop saying cuts. DF
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^^^THIS^^^
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Americans no longer control their national security.

WTF is SEQUESTER
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...421 groups hired lobbyists to influence the sequestration agreement in the first three quarters of 2012.

Within the defense sector, 25 organizations from the defense aerospace, miscellaneous defense and defense electronics industries lobbied on the issue.

In the first three quarters of the year, People for the American Way, a liberal advocacy group, mentioned the word "sequestration" most often on its lobbying reports a full 41 times, or four times more than the next group, Peabody Energy (14 mentions). Vanderbilt University, Ball Aerospace & Technologies and Honeywell International are the only other organizations that mention sequestration 10 times or more.



[link to www.opensecrets.org]


The ten largest defense contractors in the nation spent more than $27 million lobbying the federal government in the last quarter of 2009, according to a review of recently-filed lobbying records.

The massive amount of money used to influence the legislative process came as the White House

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You do realize these aren't really "cuts"? It is just a decrease in the RATE of spending. WE are still going to spend more money than last year so it is not really what we all think of as a cut! No one should have to lose their job! They are once again insulting our intelligence and pulling their scare tactics. Now a real cut would be if they got rid of 50% of the gov't! That I would applaud!
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Bullshit!...

This is nothing less than Extortion, and Blackmail, by a Cabal of Ruthless, Malignant, Psychopaths and Sociopaths.

Fuck Them....
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WTF is SEQUESTER
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16591630


= AUSTERITY for us
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One of the main points of Obama's State of the Union speech was Obama's statement that the U.S. has to do more against global warming. He clearly stated that all scientists were in agreement on this.

Well, we all know Mr. Obama is an astounding liar as we know that all scientists are NOT in agreement with the cause of global warming, not are many in agreement that global warming is continuing.

I'm not standing on my soap box here, what people should know is that there is a proposal by the UN and other global elite hangouts that the U.S. would pay a BIG tax to the world banks so they will be able to solve the problem of global warming whether its actually warming or not.

Now this thread is about the "SEQUESTER" which means your tax dollars are not going to be doled out on YOUR behalf because our taxes are inadequate to cover all the funding that they used to. HOWEVER, by no means will there EVER be a reduction to the interest that we pay the Federal Reserve! Far worse that that, we will be paying International Taxes to the UN so they can study global warming AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO PAY THE "TOO BIG TOO FAILS" PAYMENTS TO THEM!

As I have said... President Obama is a man of the people, that is, a man for the people who elected him into office twice and who he expects will elect him into future terms as well.

But the poor now have their cell phones which means that the middle class now have everything it needs, so their is no problem with making up a word that means "AUSTERITY," but sounds like some college lingo meaning we're too well off to pay as little taxes as we do.

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LAHOOD: IF YOU THINK AIR TRAVEL IS FRUSTRATING NOW JUST WAIT TO SEE HOW THINGS ARE IF SEQUESTER COMES INTO PLAY


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By TALK RADIO NEWS SERVICE

WASHINGTON – The White House trotted out Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood today to explain that the sequester will take a toll at many of the nation’s airports.

“This is very painful for us because it involves our employees,” he told reporters. “But it’s gonna be VERY painful for the flying public.”


Previously Homeland Security Chief Janet Napolitano warned of a one hour increase in waiting in line at airport security checkpoints as a result of the furloughing of TSA workers.

[link to reportergary.com]
 Quoting: pool


Everyone knows that the cuts can easily be accomplished without impact to infrastructure, critical systems, or national security. If you don't by now, you're willfully ignorant. So, if these assholes choose to implement sequestration in this manner, I'm guessing not only will the majority be calling for their resignations, I wouldn't be too surprised to see a few pitchforks pop up on Capitol Hill as well.

My guess is that they want this, so be careful.

That said, a concerted recall of all representatives should ensue shortly after any attempt to do other than what we all know needs to be done. Regardless of whether or not it is allowed by state or federal "law," because we also all know that these traitors have only written these laws to protect themselves - so they are by their very nature illegal.

In short, we must ALL now DEMAND that these lawmakers vacate their seats in whatever fashion necessary (and hopefully peacefully), and then commence new elections that are constitutionally sound and at least somewhat more legitimate than they are now. Only then will we begin to reverse the damage they've done.
Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth.
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You do realize these aren't really "cuts"? It is just a decrease in the RATE of spending. WE are still going to spend more money than last year so it is not really what we all think of as a cut! No one should have to lose their job! They are once again insulting our intelligence and pulling their scare tactics. Now a real cut would be if they got rid of 50% of the gov't! That I would applaud!
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Did I not just say that above? People need to stop repeating the administrations mantra of cuts, cuts, cuts. It is total BS, there are no cuts.
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LAHOOD: IF YOU THINK AIR TRAVEL IS FRUSTRATING NOW JUST WAIT TO SEE HOW THINGS ARE IF SEQUESTER COMES INTO PLAY


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By TALK RADIO NEWS SERVICE

WASHINGTON – The White House trotted out Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood today to explain that the sequester will take a toll at many of the nation’s airports.

“This is very painful for us because it involves our employees,” he told reporters. “But it’s gonna be VERY painful for the flying public.”

 Quoting: pool


I am willing to bet it won't be very noticeable. Sorry OP. This is a scare tactic, nothing more. On with the cuts, I say!

And by the way, you make concessions when you're broke. Here the concession may be getting to the airport 45 minutes earlier. Get used to it.
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The following things will happen...be warned:

Policemen will all disappear

You will have to wipe your own granny's butt

The planes won't fly

Firemen will lose water pressure

The International Space Station astronauts will have to eat their own hair

Your food from China will still come from China only it won't have someone to stamp it as it enters the country and thus will be dangerous

The unrepaired potholes will grow 1% larger

There will be nobody left to deny your Medicaid claim so you will be left in limbo until it can be properly denied

The latest study on whether coffee kills you are saves you will be put on hold and you will not know whether to drink coffee or not.

It's like a Stephen King novel people!

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