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abeliever (OP) Members User ID: 17868616 United States 02/23/2013 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Started some research..... article follows Real Women Competing With Porn Stars Overconsumption of porn is having unintended consequences. Once upon a time men were hesitant to purchase pornography. Walk into an adult bookstore or movie house? Ring up a purchase with the girl at the counter? Way too embarrassing for most. But now internet porn is easily available in the anonymity of home. It’s even free. Porn’s gone mainstream: Who doesn’t do it anymore? But porntopia has an unexpected downside. Standards of sexiness are growing narrower (as I’ve previously discussed). Some men expect their partners to act like porn stars. Sometimes both. Everyone ends up disappointed. “Young men and women are indeed being taught what sex is, how it looks, what its etiquette and expectations are, by pornographic training,” commented Naomi Wolf after her lecture tours of college campuses, “and this is having a huge effect on how they interact.” In sum: women are now expected to behave like actresses in porn flicks. Emphasis on “actress.” Even porn stars don’t behave the same way at home. And how do the actresses act? It’s male fantasy: It’s all about the guy. Pamela Paul found something similar in her research for Pornified: Among men who overconsume real women are now expected to: Howl and moan with delight at the sight of the male member, or in anticipation of oral sex. They must enthusiastically swallow, let their boyfriends ejaculate on their faces and bodies, or maybe be peed upon. Suggesting an interest in lesbianism is always good. And through it all, they’re expected to have quick, easy orgasms. Ideally without much foreplay. A man named Luis reported, I’ve broken up with women who wouldn’t perform certain things. Some recognize the problem. A man named Harrison stated, I think that a guy’s expectations of his partner might be affected by the images he sees in porn. People’s expectations of their partner’s sexual performance or of what their partners might be willing to do might be unrealistic. A 2004 Elle-MSNBC.com poll found that 35% of men felt sex with real woman had become less arousing. Twenty percent said the real thing couldn’t compete with virtual sex. If women want to compete, they’ll need to become actresses, too. Not so much fun for them. Women who bed these men end up feeling empty and unsatisfied. After watching porn with her boyfriend, a woman named Cara observed, The women were all fake. No intimacy, nothing sensual.” Relating what she saw to real life she continued, “Even when he and I were intimate, the sex wasn’t intimate. Perhaps this is what happens when sex objects have sex, and not flesh and blood human beings. Distracted by candy, they both end up missing something more nourishing and substantive. They miss out on the deep, connected intimacy that brings so much meaning to relationship. Soul needs. Why act in ways that leave us empty and spiritually wanting? Is he really that into you to make it worth it? The focus on his pleasure, only, suggests he is not. [link to broadblogs.com] |
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phoenixe User ID: 34782429 Germany 02/23/2013 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thank you for this thread, OP. i don´t like the road society is taking regarding our sex lives, too. pole dancing can be a really good workout for the whole body, but you can get injured easily, so besides the porn-star-mentality coming with it, i wouldn´t recommend trying it to the average woman. most of them get a pole for at home to practice, and neck injuries and stuff are very common. |
SuperManny User ID: 28757336 United States 02/23/2013 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | C'mon man... don't be so judgmental! Why is it wrong for a woman to be sexy?! Sometimes I watch this show called "Positive Living" and a few days ago they had a segment on pole dance training. Apparently when the body goes thru these kind of movements, it activates neural pathways in the brain that can greatly raise a woman's self-esteem and can be very beneficial in a relationship. They called it "Mirror Neurons"... they said it was very good for the mind and the body, because you exercise in a way that the body doesn't normally move in normal day-to-day activity. So let me just ask, what do you think gives you the right to tell women what they can or can't do? The greatest gift you can give anyone is the example of your own life working. -Orin |
abeliever (OP) Members User ID: 17868616 United States 02/23/2013 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | C'mon man... don't be so judgmental! Quoting: SuperManny Why is it wrong for a woman to be sexy?! Sometimes I watch this show called "Positive Living" and a few days ago they had a segment on pole dance training. Apparently when the body goes thru these kind of movements, it activates neural pathways in the brain that can greatly raise a woman's self-esteem and can be very beneficial in a relationship. They called it "Mirror Neurons"... they said it was very good for the mind and the body, because you exercise in a way that the body doesn't normally move in normal day-to-day activity. So let me just ask, what do you think gives you the right to tell women what they can or can't do? I was in marketing for eons. Within that arena, they will say anything to sell a product, and skew data to make it believeable. Don't believe promo ads of anything. What gives me the right to tell women what they can or can't do? I'm not telling them what they can or cannot do. As a woman, I am showing them what I see, and others see, that they have done and continue to do and exactly how that affects what they will be doing in the future and how that will fail for them emotionally and the couples relationship. As a man's needs for sex are hardwired, women's needs for intimacy are hardwired. This movement of becoming pornified is in direct opposition of achieving both of their desires. What will then happen is the relationship, if you could call it that, fails. She's unhappy and he's scratching his head thinking he's done everything to please her (in his mind that's sex) however he fails to understand that is not what she's hardwired to achieve. Sex should be the result of the woman feeling the intimacy of the relationship. In a porn relationship, there is no intimacy. There is just sex. It fails for the woman, and then the man because it fails for the woman. It's a dysfunctional relationship, scientifically and psychologically speaking. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34613724 United States 02/23/2013 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Men generally compete, struggle or kill each other. Women are hard-wired differently. "They" know this. So know they've been successfully driving a wedge between the female bonds. Through sexualizing and pornifying, women are competing with each other for men and attention. Women have it in them to rise above this degradation. Whereas men have proven through history for thousands of years, they are unable to lead without destruction. Women are the last hope to maintain civility and build something...instead of destroy. No, I'm not make bashing. In fact, women need to wake up now and band back together |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34613724 United States 02/23/2013 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | C'mon man... don't be so judgmental! Quoting: SuperManny Why is it wrong for a woman to be sexy?! Sometimes I watch this show called "Positive Living" and a few days ago they had a segment on pole dance training. Apparently when the body goes thru these kind of movements, it activates neural pathways in the brain that can greatly raise a woman's self-esteem and can be very beneficial in a relationship. They called it "Mirror Neurons"... they said it was very good for the mind and the body, because you exercise in a way that the body doesn't normally move in normal day-to-day activity. So let me just ask, what do you think gives you the right to tell women what they can or can't do? Are you serious? I bet you believe the cigarette-company research that says smoking is good for you? And define "sexy" If you notice, people have been having sex for thousands of years. No one needed Internet porn to maintain a relationship. It seems that now, people can't see through the brain and emotional enslavement they have us under. |
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abeliever (OP) Members User ID: 17868616 United States 02/23/2013 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's not "sexy," that's trash. You can package it in your mind as "sexy" but it's trash. You were brainwashed to think it is sexy. What's sexy? The first glance Romeo gave to Juliet in Franco Zephirelli film where she was anticipating his stares and he was enjoying her playfulness. The way you look at her and smile just because you know her and like her little idiocrasies. The way she feels when she knows you really like her even when she does something dumb. The way he cares for her after cancer just took one of her breasts. The way she looks lovingly at him as he wheels around the Navy Exchange with no legs. The way he dries her tears and holds her when she's crying her eyes out because she can't have kids. The way a man exudes honesty, and strength because of it. The way a woman exudes grace, and beauty because of it. Last Edited by abeliever on 02/23/2013 01:27 PM |
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abeliever (OP) Members User ID: 17868616 United States 02/23/2013 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Women have always banded together. Women can even bond deeper than male related bonds. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34613724 Men generally compete, struggle or kill each other. Women are hard-wired differently. "They" know this. So know they've been successfully driving a wedge between the female bonds. Through sexualizing and pornifying, women are competing with each other for men and attention. Women have it in them to rise above this degradation. Whereas men have proven through history for thousands of years, they are unable to lead without destruction. Women are the last hope to maintain civility and build something...instead of destroy. No, I'm not make bashing. In fact, women need to wake up now and band back together |
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anon User ID: 31518783 United States 02/23/2013 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Women have always banded together. Women can even bond deeper than male related bonds. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34613724 Men generally compete, struggle or kill each other. Women are hard-wired differently. "They" know this. So know they've been successfully driving a wedge between the female bonds. Through sexualizing and pornifying, women are competing with each other for men and attention. Women have it in them to rise above this degradation. Whereas men have proven through history for thousands of years, they are unable to lead without destruction. Women are the last hope to maintain civility and build something...instead of destroy. No, I'm not make bashing. In fact, women need to wake up now and band back together I know groupon is sooooooo stupid, Id let them dance at my place for free!! Just kidding OP, relax |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34992467 Germany 02/23/2013 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sometimes I watch this show called "Positive Living" and a few days ago they had a segment on pole dance training. Apparently when the body goes thru these kind of movements, it activates neural pathways in the brain that can greatly raise a woman's self-esteem and can be very beneficial in a relationship. Quoting: SuperManny They called it "Mirror Neurons"... they said it was very good for the mind and the body, because you exercise in a way that the body doesn't normally move in normal day-to-day activity. Yadda yadda yadda, You want excercise, self-esteem, confidence, better body-mind connection? I'd say do Flamenco, Belly Dancing, all sorts of arts-martial-sports. It's great. Find a real teacher, who knows about the artform, about the age-old powers. No need to do the demeaning thingy. Listen to your heart, Girl! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34992467 Germany 02/23/2013 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "They" know this. So know they've been successfully driving a wedge between the female bonds. Through sexualizing and pornifying, women are competing with each other for men and attention. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34613724 Not to forget, "They" drive a wedge between man and woman, too. They have been planting this idea of what love-life should look like, to undermine the natural strong bond between a couple. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34992467 Germany 02/23/2013 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't like it, either, OP. But at the end of the day it is just a quantitative extension of all sorts of funny clothing, toe-nail painting, high heels, shaving of body parts and funny behaviours. And to top it all off, many girls believe they are not oppressed any more. Muhaha! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31189143 Canada 02/23/2013 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its all part of their plan - to destroy the male/female relationship & stop procreation dead in its tracks. - to pervert us into immoral despondency ..turn us gay. to reduce the population & remove the useless eaters that they consider to be a plague upon the earth. their words not mine. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34992467 Germany 02/23/2013 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this thread is not important. Much more important are: politics the government the vatican the illuminati the matrix the cop who shot ... the celebrity who ... don't talk about stupid, small, unimportant things, girl! |
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