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BREAKING: VA letters sent to veterans as Per 2013 NDAA !!!!

 
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BREAKING: VA letters sent to veterans as Per 2013 NDAA !!!!
I know you all know the letters were sent out, but did you know it was a section in the NDAA to allow this to happen?

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Michael Connelly, executive director of the United States Foundation, says that US veterans are now receiving letters from the US Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) regarding the disarmament of those former service men and women under the guise that they are in a questionable physical or mental condition because of their exposure to combat situations.

The letter goes on to say: “A determination of incompetency will prohibit you from purchasing, possessing, receiving, or transporting a firearm or ammunition. If you knowingly violate any of these prohibitions, you may be fined, imprisoned, or both pursuant to the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, Pub.L.No. 103-159, as implemented at 18, United States Code 924(a)(2).”

Without “specifics on the reasons for the proposed finding of incompetency” the VA is determining that veterans are incompetent. Disregarding due process and the US Constitution, the VA has begun to disarm American citizens under their control.

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Last Edited by TheTruthNeverLies on 02/23/2013 11:56 AM
"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

-George Washington
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Smaaaaaart....disarm the ones than actually trained with weapons and eliminate a major threat....
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How can the sinister ends of these means not be blatantly obvious to EVERYBODY ON EARTH?!?!?!?!

The ubermenchen want to disarm the population so we can be oppressed like worms.

Period.
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BUMP....This should get more attention here on GLP. Isen't it illegal for the government to do this? Why are Replublicans not taking a tougher stance against this?
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BUMP....This should get more attention here on GLP. Isen't it illegal for the government to do this? Why are Replublicans not taking a tougher stance against this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35112396


you may be new here ...

there is no difference between D & R at the leadership level. it is similar to wrestling ... on stage they're enemies, off stage they're friends


all professional politicians have sold their soul, it is a requirement, for if they did not they would never have ever been re-elected, or elected for that matter.


take a moment and think about all they ways we are separated while Oz hides behind the curtain.
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As of 2011 there were 21.5 million Veterens in the US.

[link to www.infoplease.com]

Now, if you figure that half of them are in no shape to resist (due to age, injury, disability ect..) that still leaves 10.2 million plus that have the knowledge they were trained with to resist - THAT IS WHAT THE .gov IS SCARED OF !
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They are only doing this because they know most vets are patriotic and still believe in the Constitution. If I were a vet, I would tell the Fucking Govt. to get the FO of my business.

This is increasingly becoming a tyrannical govt. under this fucking administration who are fucking traitors.

It is time to put this shit to rest.
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This provision only applies to veterans who are found to be mentally ill, AND whose veteran’s benefits have been legally placed in a guardianship due to incompetence.

This story is being spread in a way that deliberately misleads his audience into thinking this rule is being arbitrarily applied to all veterans — and that is false.
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As of 2011 there were 21.5 million Veterens in the US.

[link to www.infoplease.com]

Now, if you figure that half of them are in no shape to resist (due to age, injury, disability ect..) that still leaves 10.2 million plus that have the knowledge they were trained with to resist - THAT IS WHAT THE .gov IS SCARED OF !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33838111


and those 10 million might train those who refuse to comply, shit is gonna hit the fan big time
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This provision only applies to veterans who are found to be mentally ill, AND whose veteran’s benefits have been legally placed in a guardianship due to incompetence.

This story is being spread in a way that deliberately misleads his audience into thinking this rule is being arbitrarily applied to all veterans — and that is false.
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true but what is to stop them from saying that all of the veterans have ptsd?
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This provision only applies to veterans who are found to be mentally ill, AND whose veteran’s benefits have been legally placed in a guardianship due to incompetence.

This story is being spread in a way that deliberately misleads his audience into thinking this rule is being arbitrarily applied to all veterans — and that is false.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35016945


true but what is to stop them from saying that all of the veterans have ptsd?
 Quoting: mrmuffins69


We're not talking about ptsd.
You don't have your benefits placed in guardianship
due to ptsd.
We're talking serious mental illness.
You support gunrights for the seriously mentally ill?
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This provision only applies to veterans who are found to be mentally ill, AND whose veteran’s benefits have been legally placed in a guardianship due to incompetence.

This story is being spread in a way that deliberately misleads his audience into thinking this rule is being arbitrarily applied to all veterans — and that is false.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35016945


true but what is to stop them from saying that all of the veterans have ptsd?
 Quoting: mrmuffins69


We're not talking about ptsd.
You don't have your benefits placed in guardianship
due to ptsd.
We're talking serious mental illness.
You support gunrights for the seriously mentally ill?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35016945


ptsd is a mental illness
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from the official government page, [link to www.ptsd.va.gov]


Post-traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) is a mental health problem that can occur after someone goes through a traumatic event like war, assault, or disaster.

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They only want armed combat veterans serving in law enforcement agencies. If you do not go into some form of hired goon agency after your military service is over, you are a threat to them. Period.
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If you know a vet who got a letter help them out, store their guns so they can say "see I have no guns" if searched.
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This provision only applies to veterans who are found to be mentally ill, AND whose veteran’s benefits have been legally placed in a guardianship due to incompetence.

This story is being spread in a way that deliberately misleads his audience into thinking this rule is being arbitrarily applied to all veterans — and that is false.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35016945


The Coburn amendment #3109 states that in order “to protect the Second Amendment rights of veterans” they must be deemed mentally competent so they may retain their right to bear arms.

[link to occupycorporatism.com]
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Well in some cases...I can see this being a good thing. I was refused entry into the Army at the last minute due to an injury that I didn't even know about until I started training to leave, my neighbor got sent. He saw combat once and went batshit crazy, got sent home shortly after. He's all whacked out on dope and xanax, doctor shops, has no life and lives in his parents basement now he's about 45, he wasted away to almost nothing and resembles a 4 ft. gremlin coming off a 15 year long crack binge. Its a shame, but no way in hell should this guy have a gun. I think he already sold his for some drugs, if they let him keep it even..

Or my other buddy who served his time and once he got home he would act normal around people on the street then walk up into his apartment where you could hear him screaming and throwing shit all night for no apparent reason? Dude went nuts too.
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BUMP....This should get more attention here on GLP. Isen't it illegal for the government to do this? Why are Replublicans not taking a tougher stance against this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35112396


There are THREE Political Parties running Washington these days.

Two are known traditional Political Parties, Democrats and Republicans.

The third Political Party is an insidious parasite which has infiltrated and embedded itself within the two visible Political Parties.

This third Party is the 'Socialist Progressive Party' and members generally (with the exception of Hillary Clinton) keep this fact from the public while clinging to traditional Party labels like Democrat or Republican.

They are deceivers, liars and criminals. They now have gained both leadership roles and the controlling vote in both of the traditional Parties.

Both the Democratic and Republican Parties are now effectively the 'Socialist Progressive Party' and it has control of our nation.

The 'Socialist Progressive Party' owns all three branches of our Federal Government.

That is why the White House ignores the Constitution, there is no Justice to be found in our Courtrooms and Congress has submitted to an enemy of the nation.
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This provision only applies to veterans who are found to be mentally ill, AND whose veteran’s benefits have been legally placed in a guardianship due to incompetence.

This story is being spread in a way that deliberately misleads his audience into thinking this rule is being arbitrarily applied to all veterans — and that is false.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35016945


And you know this to be true... how?

Where is the 'compelling evidence' to support your statement?

I hope you are right, but I fear not.
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This provision only applies to veterans who are found to be mentally ill, AND whose veteran’s benefits have been legally placed in a guardianship due to incompetence.

This story is being spread in a way that deliberately misleads his audience into thinking this rule is being arbitrarily applied to all veterans — and that is false.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35016945


The Coburn amendment #3109 states that in order “to protect the Second Amendment rights of veterans” they must be deemed mentally competent so they may retain their right to bear arms.

[link to occupycorporatism.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30311833


Sounds like Mr. Coburn has things ass-backwards. The 'Second Amendment Right' is retained until such time a proper medical authority determines you are not mentally competent.

The 'Second Amendment' only clarifies an inalienable right illuminated within the Constitution itself.

A God Given Right.

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Well in some cases...I can see this being a good thing. I was refused entry into the Army at the last minute due to an injury that I didn't even know about until I started training to leave, my neighbor got sent. He saw combat once and went batshit crazy, got sent home shortly after. He's all whacked out on dope and xanax, doctor shops, has no life and lives in his parents basement now he's about 45, he wasted away to almost nothing and resembles a 4 ft. gremlin coming off a 15 year long crack binge. Its a shame, but no way in hell should this guy have a gun. I think he already sold his for some drugs, if they let him keep it even..

Or my other buddy who served his time and once he got home he would act normal around people on the street then walk up into his apartment where you could hear him screaming and throwing shit all night for no apparent reason? Dude went nuts too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33282340


My friend, for a minute consider what you have just stated.

Due to your personal friendship with two lost individuals amoung over 21 million, you have concluded it reasonable to deny the rights of the remaining 21 million Veterans.

No Law will stop your lost friends from obtaining a firearm if they desire one.

Strive to see reality.

Last Edited by DataSponge on 02/25/2013 07:15 AM
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this is a good catch thanks for posting
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Sorry but I have to call BS on Mr. Connelly. He says he has a letter, he needs to take a picture of it. This is not the first time Mr. Connelly has tried to get the vets of this country stirred up. For every action, there is a reaction. Why get the veterans reacting??? The govt doesn't need to get the vets revolting, the states are disarming the citizens very well. The pro-gun citizens are battling a very sneaky govt. Smoke & mirrors folks!

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