Epic: Ann Coulter vs John Stossel and the Libertarians | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34910882 Canada 02/23/2013 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was kind of under the impression that Stan Coulter was a little smarter than that. I didn't watch beyond about a minute and a half. I didn't need to hear any more to tell me I was wrong. I'm not for Stossel's anarchy, but neither am I for Coulter's tyranny. |
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s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 02/23/2013 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why is the US 70% socialist? It is a good point IMO. Last Edited by s. d. butler on 02/23/2013 04:25 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30981074 United States 02/23/2013 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I gathered from it is that Coulter is saying there are much more serious issues than gay marriage and legalizing pot. She is saying that these issues are distractions and that Libertarians should be looking at things like why is there a commerce dept, education department etc. Quoting: s. d. butler Why is the US 70% socialist? It is a good point IMO. It's not a good point. It completely ignores the fact that the drug war is the number one excuse our tyrannical government has used over the past 50 years to slowly chip away at our rights and the judicial rulings that have been handed town to keep convicting people of victimless crimes has turned the system upside down. Without addressing that, worrying about things like the commerce dept is beyond stupid. |
s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 02/23/2013 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I gathered from it is that Coulter is saying there are much more serious issues than gay marriage and legalizing pot. She is saying that these issues are distractions and that Libertarians should be looking at things like why is there a commerce dept, education department etc. Quoting: s. d. butler Why is the US 70% socialist? It is a good point IMO. It's not a good point. It completely ignores the fact that the drug war is the number one excuse our tyrannical government has used over the past 50 years to slowly chip away at our rights and the judicial rulings that have been handed town to keep convicting people of victimless crimes has turned the system upside down. Without addressing that, worrying about things like the commerce dept is beyond stupid. I stand at least somewhat corrected if the issue is the drug war but it seems most of the self identified libertarians are primarily interested in legalizing marijuana and gay marriage. The forever wars and the corrupt gubmint/ military industrial complex are the root of the problem and the "drug war" is just part of that. Last Edited by s. d. butler on 02/23/2013 04:44 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30981074 United States 02/23/2013 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I gathered from it is that Coulter is saying there are much more serious issues than gay marriage and legalizing pot. She is saying that these issues are distractions and that Libertarians should be looking at things like why is there a commerce dept, education department etc. Quoting: s. d. butler Why is the US 70% socialist? It is a good point IMO. It's not a good point. It completely ignores the fact that the drug war is the number one excuse our tyrannical government has used over the past 50 years to slowly chip away at our rights and the judicial rulings that have been handed town to keep convicting people of victimless crimes has turned the system upside down. Without addressing that, worrying about things like the commerce dept is beyond stupid. I stand at least somewhat corrected if the issue is the drug war but it seems most of the self identified libertarians are primarily interested in legalizing marijuana and gay marriage. The forever wars and the corrupt gubmint/ military industrial complex are the root of the problem and the "drug war" is just part of that. You're right that now that the drug was has been accepted, they are moving to the war on terror as a way to use our military industrial complex to control us even further. However, until the 4th amendment is restored, this nation will never recover. We can not restore the 4th amendment until the drug war is over. Plus, a libertarian should say that marriage is simply a religious ceremony. The true libertarian should simply be for ridding us of any need for the gov't to define marriage to begin with. If we didn't have an income tax, and hence no need to declare our wives dependents, why would it matter if the state recognized a "marriage"? |
s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 02/23/2013 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I gathered from it is that Coulter is saying there are much more serious issues than gay marriage and legalizing pot. She is saying that these issues are distractions and that Libertarians should be looking at things like why is there a commerce dept, education department etc. Quoting: s. d. butler Why is the US 70% socialist? It is a good point IMO. It's not a good point. It completely ignores the fact that the drug war is the number one excuse our tyrannical government has used over the past 50 years to slowly chip away at our rights and the judicial rulings that have been handed town to keep convicting people of victimless crimes has turned the system upside down. Without addressing that, worrying about things like the commerce dept is beyond stupid. I stand at least somewhat corrected if the issue is the drug war but it seems most of the self identified libertarians are primarily interested in legalizing marijuana and gay marriage. The forever wars and the corrupt gubmint/ military industrial complex are the root of the problem and the "drug war" is just part of that. You're right that now that the drug was has been accepted, they are moving to the war on terror as a way to use our military industrial complex to control us even further. However, until the 4th amendment is restored, this nation will never recover. We can not restore the 4th amendment until the drug war is over. Plus, a libertarian should say that marriage is simply a religious ceremony. The true libertarian should simply be for ridding us of any need for the gov't to define marriage to begin with. If we didn't have an income tax, and hence no need to declare our wives dependents, why would it matter if the state recognized a "marriage"? The 4th along with most of the other amendments will never be restored. To do so would mean giving up power. Governments don't give up any power until they are forced to. Of course marriage is no business of government until you realize just how deeply government is involved as you allude to in everything else in civil law, taxation, inheritance, right of survivorship, real property titles and so on. I couldn't agree more about income tax but again it would mean gubmint giving up power. It will never give up the income tax or any tax because the power to tax is the power to destroy. With holding was supposed to be a temporary war time measure just until WW2 was over. I don't know this for sure but I read somewhere there is a tax on phone bills that dates from the Spanish American war. It was supposed to pay for that war. |