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New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.

 
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Answer to the question about whether the psychic is "legit" (as far as these things go),FWIW my sense is yes.


[link to chelseadamali.wordpress.com]

Her bio says she has consulted with law enforcement. And on an unrelated note, see what she has to say about remote viewing the Lizzie Borden house. Chilling

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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
This is a bit of conflict from what was mentioned here

High school classmate Alex Ristea, of Vancouver, called Lam's death shocking and said she was one of the friendliest people he knew

Read more: [link to www.ctvnews.ca]
 Quoting: TryToGetTheTruth


where do you get a conflict in this read?

isn´t this just what someone would say over a friend in such a case?
maybe she was just a bit too friendly to the wrong person.

being depressed does not mean to be a unfriendly person with no friends... being bipolar just means not being "in equilibrium" with oneself..
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Answer to the question about whether the psychic is "legit" (as far as these things go),FWIW my sense is yes.


[link to chelseadamali.wordpress.com]

Her bio says she has consulted with law enforcement. And on an unrelated note, see what she has to say about remote viewing the Lizzie Borden house. Chilling

[link to chelseadamali.wordpress.com]
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ehm - i prefer going with "i just believe what you said, AC" - i can´t take another look on those pages.. :)
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
I found a YOUTUBE video "Missing student Elisa Lam" by universal news reporter and in it he states that the Cecil at least in the past has been used by California DOC to house former inmates, including violent offenders, sex abusers/molesters, rapists, etc.....

He was not sure if it was still at present being used for this purpose. Sorry don't have time right now to go back and look for the link, but I hadn't seen this info mentioned anywhere else and I found it interesting and possibly connected to say the least.
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OK here is the youtube link.

[youtube] [link to www.youtube.com]
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This is a bit of conflict from what was mentioned here

High school classmate Alex Ristea, of Vancouver, called Lam's death shocking and said she was one of the friendliest people he knew

Read more: [link to www.ctvnews.ca]
 Quoting: TryToGetTheTruth


where do you get a conflict in this read?

isn´t this just what someone would say over a friend in such a case?
maybe she was just a bit too friendly to the wrong person.

being depressed does not mean to be a unfriendly person with no friends... being bipolar just means not being "in equilibrium" with oneself..
 Quoting: phoenixe


the impression was from one of her social networks posted here, that said she preferred to interact with people over the internet
Open mind required !

I am in SOUTHWESTERN ONTARIO, CANADA
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
I found a YOUTUBE video "Missing student Elisa Lam" by universal news reporter and in it he states that the Cecil at least in the past has been used by California DOC to house former inmates, including violent offenders, sex abusers/molesters, rapists, etc.....

He was not sure if it was still at present being used for this purpose. Sorry don't have time right now to go back and look for the link, but I hadn't seen this info mentioned anywhere else and I found it interesting and possibly connected to say the least.
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thank you! good input. those people have to stay somewhere, too. and this just fits in the picture of that nice location this hotel is..

(i bet those 11 people who wanted to stay anyway where permanent residents with no where else to go/wanting to be seen)
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This video states she was staying at the Cecil but I did not hear a room number

[link to www.cbc.ca]
Open mind required !

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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
This will be my first post here ever. I popped on to Elisa Lam's FB and noticed there were 2 shares of her photo, 1 of them was John Kenneth Hutchison, anyone else find this odd?
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who is this John-Boy? which photo, profile picture or the background picture?
can you tell us a bit more?

yesterday, a chinese friend of her from boston shared her background picture (the cat and the one in the hazmat suit falling) i do not find anything odd in the sharing (the picture itself is odd).
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I am unsure how to attach a link properly, it was her FB page that was created on Thursday. John Hutchison is known for his experiments known as the Hutchison-Effect...free energy, levitation, reproduction of Nikola Tesla's experiments. Just thought it interestingly odd.
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
UPDATE what Media is not telling us on page 21 !
she did not stay at #640 Cecil Hotel.
she stayed at the "Stay at Main" on #620 !!!
 Quoting: phoenixe


If no one has answered that yet, the "Stay" is a part of the Cecil Hotel. It's lodging for college-aged type of travelers, carved out of the some of the lower floors of the Cecil a few years ago. I believe it's actually sort of a "hip" type of accommodations, or at least isn't nasty like the non-renovated older parts of the hotel still are.
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
Chinese web site with pics including inside the water tank. Is that Elisa in the lower right photo holding hands with a guy in a grey hoodie?

[link to sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net]
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The Taiwanese are sure analyzing the tape - wish I knew what they were saying..

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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
Did someone post the very recent post by the psychic analyzing the case:

"Ultimately her visit to LA started to get strange Day 3 of her being there, when the nightmares and night terrors began. by the next day they were seeping into her waking hours……some may say hallucinations, shadow figures, that type of thing… every present, following, watching, listening. It didn’t take more than two days before they were talking to her, communicating with her, saying horrible things… psychologists may try to explain this away as a mental break… or that they are acute symptoms of paranoid schitzophrenia, even though that’s not something that she was ever close to having, no family history, nothing there to suggest it.

In a moment I will analyze the video footage from the elevator from a paranormal psychic phenomena perspective… but first, just know this… what may appear to be a suicide here, was a possession or oppression of some sort. There are many things that bother me about this case. And I will run through those later. There are no signs of trauma on her body, and the autopsy has verified this information. There will not be anything coming back through in the toxicology screen either. This is not something that is normal or even explainable, by rational thought. This girl CLEARLY was running from something only she could see, only she could hear. Do I think whatever this was, was attached to the hotel? Yeah, I do. That’s my experience from being there…feeling what’s there, and knowing that things are not as they seem, much of the time there. "

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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
This is a bit of conflict from what was mentioned here

High school classmate Alex Ristea, of Vancouver, called Lam's death shocking and said she was one of the friendliest people he knew

Read more: [link to www.ctvnews.ca]
 Quoting: TryToGetTheTruth


where do you get a conflict in this read?

isn´t this just what someone would say over a friend in such a case?
maybe she was just a bit too friendly to the wrong person.

being depressed does not mean to be a unfriendly person with no friends... being bipolar just means not being "in equilibrium" with oneself..
 Quoting: phoenixe


the impression was from one of her social networks posted here, that said she preferred to interact with people over the internet
 Quoting: TryToGetTheTruth


ah okay, i get it now.
i posted that, because i read it somewhere on her social networks..
she seems to be a bit shy/restraint ..
i´ll look it up later/tomorrow, if that´s okay?
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
Dogs never picked up her scent on the roof when the roof was searched.
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
Investigators searched the roof of the hotel with the aid of dogs when Lam was first reported missing. Sgt. Rudy Lopez said he didn't know if the tanks were examined.


[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]

She was transported to the roof and put in the tank. Had she walked on the roof at all the dogs would have picked up on her scent all over the place.
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
This video states she was staying at the Cecil but I did not hear a room number

[link to www.cbc.ca]
 Quoting: TryToGetTheTruth


thank you!

i did find something else quite interesting in the link:

1)
"Police were asked whether Lam knew she was staying in a potentially dangerous part of the city.
“I don't believe that she had any idea that might be a location to be worried about,” Teague said."

which emphazises the statement of her friend being such a friendly person.


but more important:

2)
"The LAPD say they are working with the RCMP and Interpol on the investigation."

i do understand RCMP as she was canadian, but interpol?

your english wikipedia page does not give the same info as our german version does, and it seems important here - as from what i know they are contacted when a person is wanted outside your country or from other countries origin.
so they maybe already have a suspect here?
someone who left the USA ..

please scroll down to "interpol notice"
[link to translate.google.de]
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
Video clip from BIO Channel's original series, "Haunted Encounters: Face to Face," featuring an investigation at the Hotel Cecil on LA's skid row.


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we already have this psychics "vision" and this link somewhere on the first few pages, thank you anyway!!
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Investigators searched the roof of the hotel with the aid of dogs when Lam was first reported missing. Sgt. Rudy Lopez said he didn't know if the tanks were examined.


[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]

She was transported to the roof and put in the tank. Had she walked on the roof at all the dogs would have picked up on her scent all over the place.
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wow ! interesting find ! thank you!
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Dogs never picked up her scent on the roof when the roof was searched.
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hey Greece,

where did you get that one from?
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Posted the link to it in the previous comment. There were several reports of the roof top search. I used the link from the L.A Times. Here it is again.
She never set foot on that roof imo . She was transported(carried) and placed in the tank.
[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
Why does it say "Lam Elisa" instead of "Elisa Lam"?
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LAM
is a major lipopolysaccharide constituent of the cell wall of Mycobacterium tuberculosis.

Clearview TB ELISA (Inverness Medical Inc.),
have proved very useful as diagnostic tools for the detection of TB in those co-infected with HIV.

[link to www.cli-online.com]

Skid Row Connection

The search for 21-year-old University of British Columbia student Elisa Lam came to a tragic end Tuesday when the young woman’s body was found in a water tank atop the roof of The Cecil Hotel, near a notorious neighbourhood dubbed Skid Row, where drug use and homelessness are rampant.
[link to bc.ctvnews.ca]

Public health officials have launched a new, coordinated effort to contain a persistent outbreak of tuberculosis in downtown L.A.’s skid row, including searching for more than 4,500 people who may have been exposed to the disease.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have dispatched scientists to Los Angeles to help local health officials figure out why the disease is spreading and how to stop it.
[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]
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I think it is VERY odd how there was the Dorner thing in Big Bear, CA where supposedly burned his body (of course he would never be able to testify or give out information), and the mysteries of that.

Which was happening DURING this incident, which involves the WATER. FIRE and WATER deaths (both performed by other people other than the individual, most likely).

And like other people have written when I began reading and learning more about it, started to have the most AWFUL intuitive feelings (after seeing the video) and I lived in Hollywood / L.A and just have had bad vibes for SOCAL and Los Angeles in general. I definetely think there is something up with L.A and it keeps getting wierder and wierder.

I lived in L.A / SOCAL up until this past summer and moved to Nevada, because I started havng the worst vibes of that whole area. And I was born and raised in Orange County, so that is significant.
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
I found a YOUTUBE video "Missing student Elisa Lam" by universal news reporter and in it he states that the Cecil at least in the past has been used by California DOC to house former inmates, including violent offenders, sex abusers/molesters, rapists, etc.....

He was not sure if it was still at present being used for this purpose. Sorry don't have time right now to go back and look for the link, but I hadn't seen this info mentioned anywhere else and I found it interesting and possibly connected to say the least.
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OK here is the youtube link.

[youtube] [link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27800434


Universal Network News is working on a new video report.Sounds interesting!

From Youtube:

"universalnetworknews 7 minutes ago
Coming up later today another video from the Cecil Hotel. A little something covert as I do a little late night surveillance and snooping around the seedier side of the already seedy Cecil Hotel in Downtown Los Angeles' Skid Row/Historic Core District".


[link to www.youtube.com]
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
Investigators searched the roof of the hotel with the aid of dogs when Lam was first reported missing. Sgt. Rudy Lopez said he didn't know if the tanks were examined.


[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]

She was transported to the roof and put in the tank. Had she walked on the roof at all the dogs would have picked up on her scent all over the place.
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wow ! interesting find ! thank you!
 Quoting: phoenixe


Yw. I also found it interesting. Vital piece of information that can help clarify what happened here.
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Id love to know is there a Illuminatti card for TB outbreak
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not specifically, but

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Odd that she would join FB about the time she died or after. Amazing!
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you know everyone could make one. and that one friend could just be someone that happened to like asians

still weird someone made it after her dead. before she was discovered
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Hi guys, I'm new to this thread.

I would just like to say you guys are really going off track by examining her name. For heaven's sakes! Her name is what her parents give her. Translating her name to other language is kind of unnecessary and doesn't tell you anything. Lam is a common Chinese last name, and so is Elizabeth - which I believe Elisa is short for. So stop!

Also to the person who translated "Speakeasy" to Chinese and found out that it is illegal...... perhaps you should go back and do some more research on Speakeasy.

Anyways,

Her father's name is "Paul," for those wondering. I know this because his restaurant is called "Paul's Restaurant" which appear on the news. However, you must take this with a gain of salt. A lot of asian people, especially if you are an immigrant and do not know English, you tend to borrow a lot of Western names. It doesn't mean it is official. Also consider that he might have chosen a popular name to attract more people to the restaurant. You really wouldn't give your Chinese restaurant a Chinese name in Canada.

And I agree. Please stop talking about the video. We are going no where by mentioning her gestures and what not, if she was talking to somebody else is completely irrelevant because she obviously isn't.

As for "her" Facebook pages is really irrelevant as well, along with the supposedly 1 friend she has. It doesn't tell us anything. A lot of weird people make Facebook pages for celebrities, fake accounts of their friends, and I wouldn't be surprised of people made fake accounts of those who have passed away. Analyzing Facebook isn't going to tell you anything. Her REAL Facebook is private. I know this because I am from the same city she is in, and I have mutual friends with her sister. That is how I found her real Facebook. It's 100% private.
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Investigators searched the roof of the hotel with the aid of dogs when Lam was first reported missing. Sgt. Rudy Lopez said he didn't know if the tanks were examined.


[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]

She was transported to the roof and put in the tank. Had she walked on the roof at all the dogs would have picked up on her scent all over the place.
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wow ! interesting find ! thank you!
 Quoting: phoenixe


So, I guess that blows suicide, accidental and playing around up there with someone. That still leaves who and why.
Open mind required !

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Investigators searched the roof of the hotel with the aid of dogs when Lam was first reported missing. Sgt. Rudy Lopez said he didn't know if the tanks were examined.


[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]

She was transported to the roof and put in the tank. Had she walked on the roof at all the dogs would have picked up on her scent all over the place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19679303


wow ! interesting find ! thank you!
 Quoting: phoenixe


So, I guess that blows suicide, accidental and playing around up there with someone. That still leaves who and why.
 Quoting: TryToGetTheTruth


Thie inconclusive autopsy ruled out suicide or accident for me. The dogs not picking up on her scent tell me she never physically walked or played around on the roof. I believe she was killed somewhere in the hotel and then taken up to the roof and disposed of in the tank.
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Dogs never picked up her scent on the roof when the roof was searched.
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hey Greece,

where did you get that one from?
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Posted the link to it in the previous comment. There were several reports of the roof top search. I used the link from the L.A Times. Here it is again.
She never set foot on that roof imo . She was transported(carried) and placed in the tank.
[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19679303


thanks for the good work, Greece!
finally, "official" proof for what we already knew yesterday :)
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Dogs never picked up her scent on the roof when the roof was searched.
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hey Greece,

where did you get that one from?
 Quoting: phoenixe


Posted the link to it in the previous comment. There were several reports of the roof top search. I used the link from the L.A Times. Here it is again.
She never set foot on that roof imo . She was transported(carried) and placed in the tank.
[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19679303


thanks for the good work, Greece!
finally, "official" proof for what we already knew yesterday :)
 Quoting: phoenixe


Your welcome:) Confirmed official facts are always a great help when trying to piece together events. Glad I found a link I was able to share.
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Something that maybe a bit sobering to the idea of supernatural: Here is a pic of the elevator buttons of the Cecil hotel. (link below, scroll that page down till you see it)

Elisa Lam was responsible for keeping the elevator door open by pressing the DOOR HOLD button.

Look at this image of the Cecil Hotel elevator panel she used.

The buttons she presses on the middle row from top to bottom:

14 (the floor she was on, since the button didn't light up), 10, 7, 4 (the floor of her hotel room), M (mezzanine), B (basement) and finally the DOOR HOLD button on the very bottom.

[link to insidehoops.com]
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thank you, but this was already discussed on here as well :)

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