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New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.

 
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Oh a joke, that's not acceptable. It will be deleted when OP wakes up.
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I'm not joking I think OP is Richard Schmelter
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Why do you think this?
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Strange vibe
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Oh man. Don't be putting THAT into my head! This thread is enough of a mind fuck as it is.
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I do not believe Richard nor the FB page is relevant. This is far to full of machinations. A simple evil idiot would never be dumb enough to attach himself through an FB page.
It is a decoy of sorts.
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Why do you think this?
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Strange vibe
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Oh man. Don't be putting THAT into my head! This thread is enough of a mind fuck as it is.
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LOL! No kidding! Your statement made me laugh but I absolutely agree with it!!
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Sorry for the foul language... But seriously, this whole thing is really weirding me out. And why isn't it in the news!!! And why have I become so obsessed with this story!?
And why isn't everyone ELSE obsessed with this story!?
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I do not believe Richard nor the FB page is relevant. This is far to full of machinations. A simple evil idiot would never be dumb enough to attach himself through an FB page.
It is a decoy of sorts.
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I think it's relevant. Elisa's fb page was made the day she was found and Richard is her ONLY friend.

Go to Richard's fb page and check him out.
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Strange vibe
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Oh man. Don't be putting THAT into my head! This thread is enough of a mind fuck as it is.
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LOL! No kidding! Your statement made me laugh but I absolutely agree with it!!
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Sorry for the foul language... But seriously, this whole thing is really weirding me out. And why isn't it in the news!!! And why have I become so obsessed with this story!?
And why isn't everyone ELSE obsessed with this story!?
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We know why the news isnt reporting. That is why many know there is much more to this than a simple devious act. I believe those that become attached to it, or obsessed as you put it, do so because they have light. Light reckonizes darkness. It is not desensitised so it sees through it. Just my two cents.
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
All I know is that someone in that area of the country is a horror lover that has been manifesting weird scenarios. This particular story has gleaned from a horror movie called "Dark Water". Combine that with the new Super-TB news that's been on the news lately we get a brand new story in the media that seems to be "like a horror movie"(I love it that they've been saying this about everything in the media because that's the truest news I've heard in 10 years coming out the median mouth!) It is "like a horror movie" because someone is writing the script in their head and using collective consciousness to breathe it to life. When are people going to except this as truth? Do billions have to die before you all understand our emerging powers of this next dimension?
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EVERYTHING about this poor girl's case is creepy and has haunted me for a couple of days now.
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everything about this thread is creepy. burnit
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Like others, this case has me sitting on the edge of my seat!
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I would like to know if that camera is still there in that elevator...
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The handwriting in the postcard thing and the lettering of the graffiti are rather similar...
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your all pathetic.. pheonix was right.. your constant posts about your observations of the video were annoying to sift thru and read .. over and over.. same thing.. i dont blame her one bit for deleting your shit.
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
someone really needs to start a new UNCENSORED thread on this...
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no, they really don't!!! (but 333 among others already has done so....GO THERE)

you guys aren't contributing anything new!!

THAT IS THE POINT OF THE "CENSORSHIP"

through the first 20+ pages there was new information constantly being presented and a small number of folks were actually doing some real digging.

give us something new on the parents or find out the room in which this chick stayed.

if you want to blather about the elevator vid THERE IS A THREAD FOR THAT. GO THERE.


OP is doing what's necessary to keep this thread useful, so fuck off y'all! go talk about the fb account and what jesus thinks about all this somewhere else

...and i hope this gets deleted, too!
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
no one here would recognize a shill if it bit them in the face. What is going on here is the op is acting out a murder mystery style fantasy and taking you all along for a ride. she is deleting and censoring and when i try to read her recaps there is nothing useful or informative there. delete away op. i am wasting no more time on this foolishness. i am not a shill, i just place more value on my time than i am getting out of this bs.
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She deleted a reply of mine that was nothing more than an observation of what I seen in the video and she deleted it.

WTF OP what kind of a game are you playing?

I will repeat what I said as best as I recall.

My impression from the elevator video
Elisa is not wearing her glasses while in the elevator (idk if near or farsighted) she gets in really close to see the elevator buttons she is pushing. Next she steps out of the elevator and is moving her arms around as though she is not seeing very well at all. Much like a sighted person who has been temporarily blinded.
My opinion is she was either Pepper Sprayed or Mace'd

Condolences to the family, mom, dad and sister back in Vancouver.
btw the sister looks just like her, dark rimmed glasses included
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Some good observations there...I agree with you about the nearsightedness part. The fact that she is without her glasses and perhaps couldn't see very well could be important in analyzing the video. However, if she had just been sprayed with something, wouldn't she have been moving around more violently or rubbing her eyes at least? She didn't seem to be moving with much urgency, even when she was mostly out of frame. If she was in a "normal" state of mind, she likely would have been panicking more don't you think? Her calm movements suggest to me that she's either paralyzed with fear (if she knew she was being stalked) or in some sort of trance-like state either drug-induced or otherwise.

OR

there was another person out of frame we can't see.

OR

the video has been edited/is just being released as a smokescreen for something more nefarious.

You've done good in summarizing this thread OP, and I agree the video is totally creepy. If we could prove the last point as true, then it would make the video less relevant but I don't agree OP that it is completely irrelevant. There have been some good points in this thread, let's just try to keep an open discussion.
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
This will be my first post here ever. I popped on to Elisa Lam's FB and noticed there were 2 shares of her photo, 1 of them was John Kenneth Hutchison, anyone else find this odd?
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who is this John-Boy? which photo, profile picture or the background picture?
can you tell us a bit more?

yesterday, a chinese friend of her from boston shared her background picture (the cat and the one in the hazmat suit falling) i do not find anything odd in the sharing (the picture itself is odd).
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this is john's website www.thehutchisoneffect.com enjoy.
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ok now im really fooking freaked out hes some of hes videos.. [link to www.thehutchisoneffect.com]
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this story has a much DEEPER significance than what most here are aware of, this is an entity remanifesting at a specific timeframe, LAM = is a being who was in contact with alister crowley.
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here is hes myspace page with X files/ufo photos read the comments. [link to www.myspace.com]
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
I just have to say, the TB outbreak is not a recent event. It's been a problem since 2007. I think trying to connect it in any way to Elisa Lam's death is a stretch.

Officials say 11 have died since 2007. Sixty of the 78 cases were among homeless people who live on and around skid row.

[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]
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Chinese web site with pics including inside the water tank. Is that Elisa in the lower right photo holding hands with a guy in a grey hoodie?

[link to sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net]
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could be her.. but maybe just another asian woman?

pitty no one of us speaks chinese.. i bet it is written at the picture..

why don´t we see those pictures in our media?

why does he wear a hoodie ? some skater guy?

then the graffiti might make sense again..if real and not photoshopped (still need to find other pictures of that)...
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Hey I'm a Chinese. I can translate that for you. "On the 21st, Cecil hotel the hotel Elisa was found dead in wasn't opened for business yet. The couple who wasn't informed of it was rejected from the hotel."
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and here´s another little sum-up:

- Elisa means "blue child" - Indigo Child translated?
[link to translate.google.com]
then select L.A.
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For those who are wondering why Elisa was translated into blue child has gotten it wrong. As you all know it, her name as the English knew it is Elisa(Last name) Lam(First Name). While her Chinese name is 蓝(First Name) 可儿(Last Name). So, her full name is "Elisa Lam Ke Er" if you do a direct phonic translation. and the word Lam 蓝 in Chinese means blue by direct translation but using as a surname doesn't really mean anything. While her name, 儿 is translated into child. Don't read too much into it.

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:)

back again ..

thanks to all who stayed here with me;
what a nice shilling yesterday, even with "good shill - bad shill" - i do really hope they got paid well for that.

made an update on the first page/first post, hope that makes things gone on easier to understand.

so.. what were we are at?





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btw, maybe it helps understanding what´s going on as well:


I do think this case is staged: to many "coincidences" at once.
What i do not know, is the "who" did this and "why" it is done - and moreover, done _this_ way.

this includes:

- the Cecil Hotel, a known haunted hotel with all kinds of strange things going on there
- the psychic who coincidently made a dramatic job in the Cecil Hotel 2 weeks before
- the released elevator video
- the BlackDahlia case & the Dark Water movie resemblance

these are chosen to give the case a "supernatural" touch, it f+cks with people´s minds:
you´re attracted to them in a strange way and repelled the same time;
they give you shivers down your spine and no one really wants to have something to do with that stuff, out of a (ir)rational fear, as one can´t control "these things" or "proof their existence".
they are pretty much "believe or believe not" stuff like religions are.
No one really likes to question these things, let alone "get in touch" with them personally, that´s why people are easier willing to believe those things just "exist" and "happen".
And i do think that is the exact purpose for these things to _be_ weird case.

The coincidences between the victim´s name, the tuberculosis test with same
but mirrored name and the current outbreak of tuberculosis same time and just around the corner of the Cecil Hotel

what do i do with that.. all speculations, of course.
it all screams "staged" loudly, and i assume just one of it is: the victim´s name.
There is a tuberculosis outbreak (and was before in that area), and there is a test for tb with that name.

For now, i assume
"the victim is just a scapegoat here to distract/mask a clinical trial of some new strain of tb or a biowarfare test gone wrong"
- something like that.
maybe the ties to a military experiment or operation here are stronger than i am willing to admit to be supposing by now, there´s enough incidents pointing in that direction.
But, just my opinion and my "weird conspiracy theory" on that - for now.
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and here´s another little sum-up:

- Elisa means "blue child" - Indigo Child translated?
[link to translate.google.com]
then select L.A.
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For those who are wondering why Elisa was translated into blue child has gotten it wrong. As you all know it, her name as the English knew it is Elisa(Last name) Lam(First Name). While her Chinese name is 蓝(First Name) 可儿(Last Name). So, her full name is "Elisa Lam Ke Er" if you do a direct phonic translation. and the word Lam 蓝 in Chinese means blue by direct translation but using as a surname doesn't really name anything. While her name, 儿 is translated into child. Don't read too much into it.
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thank you for explaining it!
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and here´s another little sum-up:

- Elisa means "blue child" - Indigo Child translated?
[link to translate.google.com]
then select L.A.
 Quoting: phoenixe


For those who are wondering why Elisa was translated into blue child has gotten it wrong. As you all know it, her name as the English knew it is Elisa(Last name) Lam(First Name). While her Chinese name is 蓝(First Name) 可儿(Last Name). So, her full name is "Elisa Lam Ke Er" if you do a direct phonic translation. and the word Lam 蓝 in Chinese means blue by direct translation but using as a surname doesn't really name anything. While her name, 儿 is translated into child. Don't read too much into it.
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Welcome here, psychoken! If you know cantonese, can you please look at this report: [link to www.omnibc.ca] ELISA AUTOPSY 2013FEB21
Is it something different from Reuters story?

Also its very interesting:
"Reporter Olivia Cheung spoke to a close friend of Elisa Lam"
OMNI News 23 feb
We are searching for reason Elisa travelled to LA
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:)

back again ..

thanks to all who stayed here with me;
what a nice shilling yesterday, even with "good shill - bad shill" - i do really hope they got paid well for that.

made an update on the first page/first post, hope that makes things gone on easier to understand.

so.. what were we are at?





 Quoting: phoenixe


Welcome back! Hope you had a great rest.

The TB out break goes way back to 2007. Not a recent thing. Has been constant reporting of it in the news. The only reason people noticed it being reported in the news now was the victim's name. The test for TB named Lam-Elisa has been named that since inception and is also not a recent event. Below is a link to an article in the L. A Times from 1993 reporting on the epidemic of TB in L.A. If one searches using google news archives setting the date between 2007 and now there are many articles and headline news reports on the TB. The number of people having been exposed reported as over 4,500 is the total of number exposed since 2007 not since Elisa's death. I don't see any connection to Elisa despite the name of the test.
That sums up my recent findings.


[link to nl.newsbank.com]
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For anyone wondering about the final tweet SPEAKEASY: that was while she was in San Diego. There is a well-known Speakeasy club in the gaslamp district in SD. Her tumblr describes visiting presumably this selfsame club and enjoying it but losing a cellphone there.

LA-LA LAND was a well-known old-fashioned term for Los Angeles. As a highly literate person with a love for the retro Elisa would have known this and the use of the phrase was no doubt inspired by the sight of the Cecil which lured her to her awful fate.

She claimed never to have taken drugs or alcohol, and she was a person with admitted mental fragilities and a strong need to keep self-control so I am inclined to believe her and that she would not experiment with any substances even while visiting CA. The #life tag sections on her tumblr do show that her bipolar episodes were becoming worse and that she feared them.
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thank you, good to know.

maybe she has a thing for speakeasy-clubs.

besides, i agree with your view on Elisa concerning her being "retro" and that her issues became stronger and she feared them, no wonder, as she was on this roadtrip alone. i know you´re not stating these were the reasons for what happened, and so won´t i, simply because it does not make sense.
her interests and her issues go hand in hand, and maybe being on the road alone compromised her choices made to feel better - as displacement activities - and maybe made her an easy victim.
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so.. what were we are at?


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Welcome back! Hope you had a great rest.

The TB out break goes way back to 2007. Not a recent thing. Has been constant reporting of it in the news. The only reason people noticed it being reported in the news now was the victim's name. The test for TB named Lam-Elisa has been named that since inception and is also not a recent event. Below is a link to an article in the L. A Times from 1993 reporting on the epidemic of TB in L.A. If one searches using google news archives setting the date between 2007 and now there are many articles and headline news reports on the TB. The number of people having been exposed reported as over 4,500 is the total of number exposed since 2007 not since Elisa's death. I don't see any connection to Elisa despite the name of the test.
That sums up my recent findings.


[link to nl.newsbank.com]


great, thank you! i read elsewhere since 2007 only 11 people have died from tb there as far as was reported. not much for the circumstances given..
so i suppose they get health care on skid row, too.
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Welcome back! Hope you had a great rest.

The TB out break goes way back to 2007. Not a recent thing. Has been constant reporting of it in the news. The only reason people noticed it being reported in the news now was the victim's name. The test for TB named Lam-Elisa has been named that since inception and is also not a recent event. Below is a link to an article in the L. A Times from 1993 reporting on the epidemic of TB in L.A. If one searches using google news archives setting the date between 2007 and now there are many articles and headline news reports on the TB. The number of people having been exposed reported as over 4,500 is the total of number exposed since 2007 not since Elisa's death. I don't see any connection to Elisa despite the name of the test.
That sums up my recent findings.


[link to nl.newsbank.com]
 Quoting: phoenixe


great, thank you! i read elsewhere since 2007 only 11 people have died from tb there as far as was reported. not much for the circumstances given..
so i suppose they get health care on skid row, too.


Correct. Yes health care even on skid row. Not a bad thing. Much better for the whole community in the long run.
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This will be my first post here ever. I popped on to Elisa Lam's FB and noticed there were 2 shares of her photo, 1 of them was John Kenneth Hutchison, anyone else find this odd?
 Quoting: Autronia


who is this John-Boy? which photo, profile picture or the background picture?
can you tell us a bit more?

yesterday, a chinese friend of her from boston shared her background picture (the cat and the one in the hazmat suit falling) i do not find anything odd in the sharing (the picture itself is odd).
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I am unsure how to attach a link properly, it was her FB page that was created on Thursday. John Hutchison is known for his experiments known as the Hutchison-Effect...free energy, levitation, reproduction of Nikola Tesla's experiments. Just thought it interestingly odd.
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I looked into it a bit, and yes, it is interestingly odd - in that case. but i won´t give too much into it:

maybe she just liked his free-energy-experiments; i am friends with people i do not know but like what they are doing as well.

but there is a slight chance it is "something", maybe she was not just a Jane Doe.

does anyone know what she studied ? i forgot about that ..
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Correct. Yes health care even on skid row. Not a bad thing. Much better for the whole community in the long run.
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good..
...but maybe not so good at all?

i expect those on skid row to be always in need of money;
and "easy money" is to apply for pharmazeutical trials.

i can´t get the thought off my head that something really went wrong with a test or trial and that´s the case for the current tb epidemic.
if it is tb at all.
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but how does EL fit in this picture..

just a thought and some rhethorical questions:

- did EL exist at all?
(not much info on this girl, not so many pictures and stuff, the elevator vid could be staged withany asian girl)

if she did not exist, there is no need for a dead body.

maybe there is no dead body at all, and that´s why there is no marks of her on the roof for the dogs to be found.
maybe this is the reason media has nothing to report at all.

if there was a medical (bio-warfare, whatever) test with those on skid row, and it went wrong..
maybe they chose a different way of testing:
put something in the water tank, realised it got out of control or such, and needed a reason to clean up the water tank.
given the history of the hotel, another murder would make no one suspicious and be a good explanation to have people with hazmat suits up there cleaning the tanks.
..and the operation "clean-up" was namend "Elisa Lam".

why the Cecil Hotel was chosen?
because it is a live test, how something spreads.
you have permanent residents and tourists in there, you know exactly whom you treat with it. name, age, occupation, origin and all that.

just a wild conspiracy thought ;)

edit:
of course, everything else around that like social media accounts and stuff is staged then, just some more distraction for us conspiracy nuts.

Last Edited by Doomina on 02/25/2013 01:57 PM

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