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New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.

 
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
but how does EL fit in this picture..

just a thought and some rhethorical questions:

- did EL exist at all?
(not much info on this girl, not so many pictures and stuff, the elevator vid could be staged withany asian girl)

if she did not exist, there is no need for a dead body.

maybe there is no dead body at all, and that´s why there is no marks of her on the roof for the dogs to be found.
maybe this is the reason media has nothing to report at all.

if there was a medical (bio-warfare, whatever) test with those on skid row, and it went wrong..
maybe they chose a different way of testing:
put something in the water tank, realised it got out of control or such, and needed a reason to clean up the water tank.
given the history of the hotel, another murder would make no one suspicious and be a good explanation to have people with hazmat suits up there cleaning the tanks.
..and the operation "clean-up" was namend "Elisa Lam".

just a wild conspiracy thought ;)

edit:
of course, everything else around that like social media accounts and stuff is staged then, just some more distraction for us conspiracy nuts.
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There would be no reason to come up with a cover story to sanitize the tanks in the U.S. Even if they were dressed in all out hazmat suits they would have been free to do so without saying anything or attracting any unnecessary attention.
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
The TB out break goes way back to 2007. Not a recent thing. Has been constant reporting of it in the news. The only reason people noticed it being reported in the news now was the victim's name. ...

great, thank you! i read elsewhere since 2007 only 11 people have died from tb there as far as was reported. not much for the circumstances given..
so i suppose they get health care on skid row, too.
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Is it possible that Elisa's death intended to draw people's attention of something about TB?

11 people have died due to the outbreak while there are 11 people insisted on staying at the hotel when Elisa's body was found...

Sorry at first if this is too much off-topic.
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The TB out break goes way back to 2007. Not a recent thing. Has been constant reporting of it in the news. The only reason people noticed it being reported in the news now was the victim's name. ...

great, thank you! i read elsewhere since 2007 only 11 people have died from tb there as far as was reported. not much for the circumstances given..
so i suppose they get health care on skid row, too.
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Is it possible that Elisa's death intended to draw people's attention of something about TB?

11 people have died due to the outbreak while there are 11 people insisted on staying at the hotel when Elisa's body was found...

Sorry at first if this is too much off-topic.
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11 people have died since 2007. That's over a period of six years. A loooong time. The ages and the overall health of those that did die is not known to us. If a 90 year old contracted it in 2007 and died because of it in 2009 that would not be unusual. The elderly and frail are most likely to die. The outbreak seems to be contained within the homeless population. They are already in ill health. This outbreak is ongoing since 2007. Six years. I really don't think there is a connection. New discoveries are often named after those that discovered them. People share the same names quite often. Much as we may hate it ;) occasionally coincidences involving names will happen. Names of people , things etc....
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
What I do find interesting is her cellphone and the fact that police are reluctant to discuss it or give details on whether they pinged it to check on her whereabouts. I find that very odd. It's usually one of the things most discussed by police in cases such as this.

"She was in contact with her parents daily up until the 31st," said LAPD Lt. Walter Teague during a press conference on Wednesday afternoon.

"I don't want to talk about the cell phone, right now, very much, we have some of her property and she was in regular contact with her parents until 6 days ago," said Teague."

[link to www.examiner.com]
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
but how does EL fit in this picture..

just a thought and some rhethorical questions:

- did EL exist at all?
...
 Quoting: phoenixe


There would be no reason to come up with a cover story to sanitize the tanks in the U.S. Even if they were dressed in all out hazmat suits they would have been free to do so without saying anything or attracting any unnecessary attention.
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ok, makes sense that far.

but.. what if her name all over the media was the hint for "those in the know" to now keep an eye on it?

why the Cecil Hotel was chosen?
because it is a live test, how something spreads.
you have permanent residents and tourists in there, you know exactly whom you treat with it.
name, age, occupation, origin and all that.

maybe..?
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i really do like coincidences ;)

"Local and federal officials are particularly concerned because the cases are linked to one relatively small geographic area and one vulnerable population. "

sounds like a perfect testing area to me?
But officials are concerned that the outbreak could spread beyond skid row if action isn't taken.

ooops, something went wrong?

[link to articles.latimes.com]


A drug resistant strain of tuberculosis is plaguing downtown Los Angeles.

It's gotten so bad, the Centers for Disease Control is launching a coordinated effort to contain the outbreak in and around Skid Row.

[link to www.ktnv.com]
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What I do find interesting is her cellphone and the fact that police are reluctant to discuss it or give details on whether they pinged it to check on her whereabouts. I find that very odd. It's usually one of the things most discussed by police in cases such as this.

"She was in contact with her parents daily up until the 31st," said LAPD Lt. Walter Teague during a press conference on Wednesday afternoon.

"I don't want to talk about the cell phone, right now, very much, we have some of her property and she was in regular contact with her parents until 6 days ago," said Teague."

[link to www.examiner.com]
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mmmh.. your talking about

last in contact with parents on the 31st
vs.
in contact with her parents until 6 days ago?

that article is from feb 6th.

did i get something wrong?
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
but how does EL fit in this picture..

just a thought and some rhethorical questions:

- did EL exist at all?
...
 Quoting: phoenixe


There would be no reason to come up with a cover story to sanitize the tanks in the U.S. Even if they were dressed in all out hazmat suits they would have been free to do so without saying anything or attracting any unnecessary attention.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35141854


ok, makes sense that far.

but.. what if her name all over the media was the hint for "those in the know" to now keep an eye on it?

why the Cecil Hotel was chosen?
because it is a live test, how something spreads.
you have permanent residents and tourists in there, you know exactly whom you treat with it.
name, age, occupation, origin and all that.

maybe..?
 Quoting: phoenixe

Never hurts to explore the wildest of theories sometimes. I think in this case though they could have had the name in the media using some other pretense or cover story without going to so much trouble and the attracting of unwanted attention.
It's also L.A if they wanted to do a live test they could have picked other locations that would better meet the parameters they needed for something like that.
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
Why does it say "Lam Elisa" instead of "Elisa Lam"?
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LAM
is a major lipopolysaccharide constituent of the cell wall of Mycobacterium tuberculosis.

Clearview TB ELISA (Inverness Medical Inc.),
have proved very useful as diagnostic tools for the detection of TB in those co-infected with HIV.

[link to www.cli-online.com]

Skid Row Connection

The search for 21-year-old University of British Columbia student Elisa Lam came to a tragic end Tuesday when the young woman’s body was found in a water tank atop the roof of The Cecil Hotel, near a notorious neighbourhood dubbed Skid Row, where drug use and homelessness are rampant.
[link to bc.ctvnews.ca]

Public health officials have launched a new, coordinated effort to contain a persistent outbreak of tuberculosis in downtown L.A.’s skid row, including searching for more than 4,500 people who may have been exposed to the disease.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have dispatched scientists to Los Angeles to help local health officials figure out why the disease is spreading and how to stop it.
[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]
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THIS! .....she is a carrier for an engineered virus. It behaves like TB, at the onset, but it will morph rather quickly. The transient population would be the perfect "vehicle" for this organism to mutate. The victims` name in the MSM signaled, to the "right" people, that the desired result has been put into place. This accounts for her seemingly odd behaviour and her ending up on the roof where access is prohibited.
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What I do find interesting is her cellphone and the fact that police are reluctant to discuss it or give details on whether they pinged it to check on her whereabouts. I find that very odd. It's usually one of the things most discussed by police in cases such as this.

"She was in contact with her parents daily up until the 31st," said LAPD Lt. Walter Teague during a press conference on Wednesday afternoon.

"I don't want to talk about the cell phone, right now, very much, we have some of her property and she was in regular contact with her parents until 6 days ago," said Teague."

[link to www.examiner.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35141854


mmmh.. your talking about

last in contact with parents on the 31st
vs.
in contact with her parents until 6 days ago?

that article is from feb 6th.

did i get something wrong?
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I don't know. I don't know when the article was actually written and how much time elapsed from when it was written and went into circulation.

There was a gap in time though. Her parents last intact with her was on the 31st of Jan.

The staff of the Cecil Hotel were the last ones reported to have seen her.

"The staff at The Cecil Hotel on 640 S. Main Street were the last to see her, stated authorities."


She was not reported missing until early Feb.
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
What I do find interesting is her cellphone and the fact that police are reluctant to discuss it or give details on whether they pinged it to check on her whereabouts. I find that very odd. It's usually one of the things most discussed by police in cases such as this.

"She was in contact with her parents daily up until the 31st," said LAPD Lt. Walter Teague during a press conference on Wednesday afternoon.

"I don't want to talk about the cell phone, right now, very much, we have some of her property and she was in regular contact with her parents until 6 days ago," said Teague."

[link to www.examiner.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35141854


mmmh.. your talking about

last in contact with parents on the 31st
vs.
in contact with her parents until 6 days ago?

that article is from feb 6th.

did i get something wrong?
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I don't know. I don't know when the article was actually written and how much time elapsed from when it was written and went into circulation.

There was a gap in time though. Her parents last intact with her was on the 31st of Jan.

The staff of the Cecil Hotel were the last ones reported to have seen her.

"The staff at The Cecil Hotel on 640 S. Main Street were the last to see her, stated authorities."


She was not reported missing until early Feb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35141854


i thought about that gap as well;

the ccn-transcript reads, one of her last contacts was the woman from the bookstore on 31st. that bookstore is about 1700 feet from the hotel.
and .. what is "early Feb" ? 3rd? 10th?
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
but how does EL fit in this picture..

just a thought and some rhethorical questions:

- did EL exist at all?
...
 Quoting: phoenixe


There would be no reason to come up with a cover story to sanitize the tanks in the U.S. Even if they were dressed in all out hazmat suits they would have been free to do so without saying anything or attracting any unnecessary attention.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35141854


ok, makes sense that far.

but.. what if her name all over the media was the hint for "those in the know" to now keep an eye on it?

why the Cecil Hotel was chosen?
because it is a live test, how something spreads.
you have permanent residents and tourists in there, you know exactly whom you treat with it.
name, age, occupation, origin and all that.

maybe..?
 Quoting: phoenixe

Never hurts to explore the wildest of theories sometimes. I think in this case though they could have had the name in the media using some other pretense or cover story without going to so much trouble and the attracting of unwanted attention.
It's also L.A if they wanted to do a live test they could have picked other locations that would better meet the parameters they needed for something like that.
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i do think that location is as good as any other; and for that kind of test i do have in mind, you don´t need healthy people. those with poor immune system see the effects earlier, and maybe spread it easier/better than healthy ones.
about the name chosen: no need for understatement if something went really wrong;
they have to trace down someone in that EL case, they involved interpol.
which means from what i know, they are looking for some us resident who left the us - or someone from abroad.
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What I do find interesting is her cellphone and the fact that police are reluctant to discuss it or give details on whether they pinged it to check on her whereabouts. I find that very odd. It's usually one of the things most discussed by police in cases such as this.

"She was in contact with her parents daily up until the 31st," said LAPD Lt. Walter Teague during a press conference on Wednesday afternoon.

"I don't want to talk about the cell phone, right now, very much, we have some of her property and she was in regular contact with her parents until 6 days ago," said Teague."

[link to www.examiner.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35141854


mmmh.. your talking about

last in contact with parents on the 31st
vs.
in contact with her parents until 6 days ago?

that article is from feb 6th.

did i get something wrong?
 Quoting: phoenixe


I don't know. I don't know when the article was actually written and how much time elapsed from when it was written and went into circulation.

There was a gap in time though. Her parents last intact with her was on the 31st of Jan.

The staff of the Cecil Hotel were the last ones reported to have seen her.

"The staff at The Cecil Hotel on 640 S. Main Street were the last to see her, stated authorities."


She was not reported missing until early Feb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35141854


i thought about that gap as well;

the ccn-transcript reads, one of her last contacts was the woman from the bookstore on 31st. that bookstore is about 1700 feet from the hotel.
and .. what is "early Feb" ? 3rd? 10th?
 Quoting: phoenixe


Correct. I have wondered about the gap as well. Although many reports by authorities have stated that she was last seen by the hotel staff , they never state when exactly. Very vague on that point. We don't get an exact date. Usually in similar cases we may hear something like " last seen on Monday morning by hotel staff wearing ...." In this case we were not given anything like that. The gap is odd. She was not there very long before she disappeared.

"Lam, 21, had traveled to California from Vancouver on Jan. 26, was last seen Jan. 31 at the hotel, authorities said."

[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]
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There would be no reason to come up with a cover story to sanitize the tanks in the U.S. Even if they were dressed in all out hazmat suits they would have been free to do so without saying anything or attracting any unnecessary attention.
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ok, makes sense that far.

but.. what if her name all over the media was the hint for "those in the know" to now keep an eye on it?

why the Cecil Hotel was chosen?
because it is a live test, how something spreads.
you have permanent residents and tourists in there, you know exactly whom you treat with it.
name, age, occupation, origin and all that.

maybe..?
 Quoting: phoenixe

Never hurts to explore the wildest of theories sometimes. I think in this case though they could have had the name in the media using some other pretense or cover story without going to so much trouble and the attracting of unwanted attention.
It's also L.A if they wanted to do a live test they could have picked other locations that would better meet the parameters they needed for something like that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35141854


i do think that location is as good as any other; and for that kind of test i do have in mind, you don´t need healthy people. those with poor immune system see the effects earlier, and maybe spread it easier/better than healthy ones.
about the name chosen: no need for understatement if something went really wrong;
they have to trace down someone in that EL case, they involved interpol.
which means from what i know, they are looking for some us resident who left the us - or someone from abroad.
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Then you're not talking about a test. Tests require strict controls and healthy subjects. You're talking about an attack on civilians. If that was their goal there would still have been far better ways for them to accomplish that.
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mmmh.. your talking about

last in contact with parents on the 31st
vs.
in contact with her parents until 6 days ago?

that article is from feb 6th.

did i get something wrong?
 Quoting: phoenixe


I don't know. I don't know when the article was actually written and how much time elapsed from when it was written and went into circulation.

There was a gap in time though. Her parents last intact with her was on the 31st of Jan.

The staff of the Cecil Hotel were the last ones reported to have seen her.

"The staff at The Cecil Hotel on 640 S. Main Street were the last to see her, stated authorities."


She was not reported missing until early Feb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35141854


i thought about that gap as well;

the ccn-transcript reads, one of her last contacts was the woman from the bookstore on 31st. that bookstore is about 1700 feet from the hotel.
and .. what is "early Feb" ? 3rd? 10th?
 Quoting: phoenixe


Correct. I have wondered about the gap as well. Although many reports by authorities have stated that she was last seen by the hotel staff , they never state when exactly. Very vague on that point. We don't get an exact date. Usually in similar cases we may hear something like " last seen on Monday morning by hotel staff wearing ...." In this case we were not given anything like that. The gap is odd. She was not there very long before she disappeared.

"Lam, 21, had traveled to California from Vancouver on Jan. 26, was last seen Jan. 31 at the hotel, authorities said."

[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]
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and another thing...

we know the date she was in the bookstore.

we still don´t know the date and the time she was in the elevator, correct? why not?
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Something about this story and its paranormalness aspect to it - the creepiness beyond another murder story - keeps drawing me back to a book I just read recently..."The Hunt for the Skinwalker" which is about a ranch in Utah that has had much supernatural activity on it and the area in general for many years...I'm sure some of you here are familiar with it?

One of the strange things experienced by the Sherman family was this:

"During their stay, cattle mutilations, which were detrimental to Sherman’s business, were common events. Whereas a normal rancher might lose 1% of his heard in a bad year, Terry Sherman had already lost 20% of his herd in just 20 months. One day, as the Shermans were driving off the property to run an errand in town, he commented about his four bulls noting out loud that “they would sure be in big trouble if they ever lost one of those bulls”. When they returned from town, all four bulls were missing. They searched the grounds to no avail. On a whim, Terry peeks over the rails into an unused locked trailer. All four bulls were stuffed into the trailer like sardines. The trailer was locked and as Terry noted, had cobwebs on the locks. Terry knew that it would have been nearly impossible to coach even one of the large, aggressive bulls into the small container. It was almost as if someone had heard Terry’s earlier comment and played a cruel trick on him."

The extreme creepiness about that hotel with all the violent murders, suicides, etc...just made me think about the whole water tank thing...her scent not being picked up anywhere yet she was found almost impossibly there? Why does this story keep making me think of this supernatural/paranormal activity that was experienced at the Skinwalker Ranch in Utah? It just does for me and I think there is a lot of bad spirit entities/energy in that hotel probably going back a long time...is anyone else who might be aware of these things getting the same feeling with this case? Those scientists who were hired by Bigelow who now owns the ranch btw...they never were able to come up with any solid answers about the phenomenon taking place there.
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did you notice..

all Elisa Lam threads seemed to have "died out" here on GLP.

there were so many, and this case has conspiracy written all over - and still, it is quite silent here on GLP.

i know, it´s monday around noon for most of you on here;
but it was quite silent yesterday as well.

just think about Sandy Hook, some time went by and this case is still around here on the first 5 pages.
Elisa Lam is not. just this thread, my elevator thread and Elisa Lam - tb Outbreak. But not very much posting going on there at all...

another user posted here and somewhere else, he/she wonders why it is so silent.
and so do i.

and no, the other threads´ posters didn´t all leave them and join this thread..
did they lose interest all of a sudden?
this case has so much content to talk about!

and where did all the shills all of a sudden come from yesterday ? and why ?
what did we post here that attracted them?


"speakeasy" seems to be the motto again...


any ideas what´s going on here ?
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I don't know. I don't know when the article was actually written and how much time elapsed from when it was written and went into circulation.

There was a gap in time though. Her parents last intact with her was on the 31st of Jan.

The staff of the Cecil Hotel were the last ones reported to have seen her.

"The staff at The Cecil Hotel on 640 S. Main Street were the last to see her, stated authorities."


She was not reported missing until early Feb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35141854


i thought about that gap as well;

the ccn-transcript reads, one of her last contacts was the woman from the bookstore on 31st. that bookstore is about 1700 feet from the hotel.
and .. what is "early Feb" ? 3rd? 10th?
 Quoting: phoenixe


Correct. I have wondered about the gap as well. Although many reports by authorities have stated that she was last seen by the hotel staff , they never state when exactly. Very vague on that point. We don't get an exact date. Usually in similar cases we may hear something like " last seen on Monday morning by hotel staff wearing ...." In this case we were not given anything like that. The gap is odd. She was not there very long before she disappeared.

"Lam, 21, had traveled to California from Vancouver on Jan. 26, was last seen Jan. 31 at the hotel, authorities said."

[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35141854


and another thing...

we know the date she was in the bookstore.

we still don´t know the date and the time she was in the elevator, correct? why not?
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Exactly. The video is time stamped. Even if not clearly visible to us tat date would be available to them and would also have been made available to media when it was released to them. No where is there a " here is this video from"date" what we get is something along the lines of " here is some of the last video she was seen on in the hotel" .
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Just for conspiracy theorists:

Bill Gates Foundation runing Tuberculosis Symposium at 13-18 March: [link to www.keystonesymposia.org (secure)]

Whistler Conference Centre
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Then you're not talking about a test. Tests require strict controls and healthy subjects. You're talking about an attack on civilians. If that was their goal there would still have been far better ways for them to accomplish that.
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mmh.. i talk about a "live test on civilians without their knowing", with many factors not known beforehand. how something spreads in everday-conditions.. this has been done before..

which better way to accomplish what?
test started, test gone somehow wrong. now "clean-up".
it´s still just people working there, and they do make mistakes as well...


btw,sorry if i took a wrong expression for what i wanted to say.
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did you notice..

all Elisa Lam threads seemed to have "died out" here on GLP.

there were so many, and this case has conspiracy written all over - and still, it is quite silent here on GLP.

i know, it´s monday around noon for most of you on here;
but it was quite silent yesterday as well.

just think about Sandy Hook, some time went by and this case is still around here on the first 5 pages.
Elisa Lam is not. just this thread, my elevator thread and Elisa Lam - tb Outbreak. But not very much posting going on there at all...

another user posted here and somewhere else, he/she wonders why it is so silent.
and so do i.

and no, the other threads´ posters didn´t all leave them and join this thread..
did they lose interest all of a sudden?
this case has so much content to talk about!

and where did all the shills all of a sudden come from yesterday ? and why ?
what did we post here that attracted them?


"speakeasy" seems to be the motto again...


any ideas what´s going on here ?
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I think many are waiting on the toxicology reports before considering theories. People also have short term interest if no new info is forth coming. Yesterday was Sunday many had the day off and were free to post online. They're all at work today.
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I must point out a few discrepencies to the quote I used in my post above...I just tried to find a quick snippet about what happened to the bulls to post here in relation to the water tank...

In the actual book the couple were not driving into town...they drove past the bulls that were in the pen and all of them were just there in the pen as they drove past. The wife was the one who said aloud to her husband a comment about hoping they would never lose any to "whatever" it was doing all the strange things...mutilations, etc...the rancher couple had only driven to another pasture to check on some cattle or horses and had only been gone under an hour. When they came driving back the wife screamed (she couldn't even talk) and pointed towards the pen. All of the huge bulls were missing and there were no tracks of anything whatsoever - cars, footprints, predator tracks...nothing. The husband eventually peeked inside the window of the small trailer and found all of the bulls crammed in there and in a trance-like state...the padlock was still on and the cobwebs were all in place around the only door...nothing was disturbed yet these huge animals were crammed in there. Once he yelled out the beasts came back to their senses and panicked - kicking, bellowing, etc...trying to get out - they destroyed that trailer once they woke up.
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i thought about that gap as well;

the ccn-transcript reads, one of her last contacts was the woman from the bookstore on 31st. that bookstore is about 1700 feet from the hotel.
and .. what is "early Feb" ? 3rd? 10th?
 Quoting: phoenixe


Correct. I have wondered about the gap as well. Although many reports by authorities have stated that she was last seen by the hotel staff , they never state when exactly. Very vague on that point. We don't get an exact date. Usually in similar cases we may hear something like " last seen on Monday morning by hotel staff wearing ...." In this case we were not given anything like that. The gap is odd. She was not there very long before she disappeared.

"Lam, 21, had traveled to California from Vancouver on Jan. 26, was last seen Jan. 31 at the hotel, authorities said."

[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]
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and another thing...

we know the date she was in the bookstore.

we still don´t know the date and the time she was in the elevator, correct? why not?
 Quoting: phoenixe


Exactly. The video is time stamped. Even if not clearly visible to us tat date would be available to them and would also have been made available to media when it was released to them. No where is there a " here is this video from"date" what we get is something along the lines of " here is some of the last video she was seen on in the hotel" .
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ok.. let´s discuss this further over at the elevator thread, yes ? arkadi has made an analysis if it was altered, and it is quite interesting what he found :) maybe he can help with that as well :)
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i really do like coincidences ;)

"Local and federal officials are particularly concerned because the cases are linked to one relatively small geographic area and one vulnerable population. "

sounds like a perfect testing area to me?
But officials are concerned that the outbreak could spread beyond skid row if action isn't taken.

ooops, something went wrong?

[link to articles.latimes.com]


A drug resistant strain of tuberculosis is plaguing downtown Los Angeles.

It's gotten so bad, the Centers for Disease Control is launching a coordinated effort to contain the outbreak in and around Skid Row.

[link to www.ktnv.com]
 Quoting: phoenixe


Well if that's the case, Britain should worry

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

There are many more outbreaks around the world

[link to www.cbc.ca]

[link to wwwnc.cdc.gov]

[link to www.wptv.com]

Last Edited by TryToGetTheTruth on 02/25/2013 03:01 PM
Open mind required !

I am in SOUTHWESTERN ONTARIO, CANADA
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Then you're not talking about a test. Tests require strict controls and healthy subjects. You're talking about an attack on civilians. If that was their goal there would still have been far better ways for them to accomplish that.
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mmh.. i talk about a "live test on civilians without their knowing", with many factors not known beforehand. how something spreads in everday-conditions.. this has been done before..

which better way to accomplish what?
test started, test gone somehow wrong. now "clean-up".
it´s still just people working there, and they do make mistakes as well...


btw,sorry if i took a wrong expression for what i wanted to say.
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That's okay. I was trying to figure out what you meant. A "test" of the kind you're proposing would never even be considered a possibility by those who do such things. For many reasons too long to even go into. As far as an "attack" there would be far more expedient ways of achieving that goal if that we're the intent.
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Correct. I have wondered about the gap as well. Although many reports by authorities have stated that she was last seen by the hotel staff , they never state when exactly. Very vague on that point. We don't get an exact date. Usually in similar cases we may hear something like " last seen on Monday morning by hotel staff wearing ...." In this case we were not given anything like that. The gap is odd. She was not there very long before she disappeared.

"Lam, 21, had traveled to California from Vancouver on Jan. 26, was last seen Jan. 31 at the hotel, authorities said."

[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35141854


and another thing...

we know the date she was in the bookstore.

we still don´t know the date and the time she was in the elevator, correct? why not?
 Quoting: phoenixe


Exactly. The video is time stamped. Even if not clearly visible to us tat date would be available to them and would also have been made available to media when it was released to them. No where is there a " here is this video from"date" what we get is something along the lines of " here is some of the last video she was seen on in the hotel" .
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ok.. let´s discuss this further over at the elevator thread, yes ? arkadi has made an analysis if it was altered, and it is quite interesting what he found :) maybe he can help with that as well :)
 Quoting: phoenixe


Yes :)
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Just for conspiracy theorists:

Bill Gates Foundation runing Tuberculosis Symposium at 13-18 March: [link to www.keystonesymposia.org (secure)]

Whistler Conference Centre
Whistler, British Columbia V0N 1B4
Canada
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i suppose one can look up all serious plagues and always have a connection to BG .. evil guy.
nice find! :)
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I guess what I'm trying to say is I feel an uneasy connection with this story and the Skinwalker Ranch story...there is an intelligence from another dimension that seemed to be causing the phenomenon there at the ranch. It could read people's minds and even had a sense of humor playing tricks (really spooky/creepy tricks, mind you) on people. I get that feeling from seeing the elevator video and also the video of the ghost hunter/paranormal people at the hotel that was done earlier.
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thank you OP

hf
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I'm starting to get worried about TB outbreak across nation. Look up think it was 40s or 50s not sure,in america,it was awful

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