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New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.

 
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Considering the history of the building and the recent events, they may want to prevent further tragedies by not publicizing the fact that the roof can be accessed via the fire escapes.
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of course, that might be the reason.
but maybe they should edit the pictures from the roof made from helicopters as well, as one can clearly see the red ladder on the right ;)
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That would be censorship ;) I don't think they were looking to go any great lengths to hide the info, just trying to prevent foolish teens and others from doing stupid stuff by trying to keep the info low key.
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There might have been equipment brought to the scene for the body's removal that's not ordinarily there ....
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i meant wrong for "you need to take the locked alarmed security door to get up there" (proven wrong already by enough youtube vids) for guests/visitors/killers.

for heavy equipment and stuff, of course, you take the staircase and the door, not the fire ladder ;)
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wow I didn't know that it was that easy to access the roof some therefore anyone could have taken her up there or she could of just wondered up there herself has it been said if the lid to the tank was locked or not
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I don't think it's that easy that you can just wander up there. If you look at pictures of the Cecil Hotel it clearly does not have fire escapes everywhere leading to the rooftop. Those available would be via fire exit doors which trigger an alarm upon opening.

[link to www.google.com (secure)]
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Are positive about access to the roof? Also assuming the alarms on those doors work it would take a key to open the door without the alarm sounding.
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There might have been equipment brought to the scene for the body's removal that's not ordinarily there ....
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i meant wrong for "you need to take the locked alarmed security door to get up there" (proven wrong already by enough youtube vids) for guests/visitors/killers.

for heavy equipment and stuff, of course, you take the staircase and the door, not the fire ladder ;)
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wow I didn't know that it was that easy to access the roof some therefore anyone could have taken her up there or she could of just wondered up there herself has it been said if the lid to the tank was locked or not
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1733349

I don't think it's that easy that you can just wander up there. If you look at pictures of the Cecil Hotel it clearly does not have fire escapes everywhere leading to the rooftop. Those available would be via fire exit doors which trigger an alarm upon opening.

[link to www.google.com (secure)]
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read somewhere else from 14th floor you have access to the ladder.
as some youtube videos of people hanging out up there and the graffitis show, it is not that difficult, if someone wants to.
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i meant wrong for "you need to take the locked alarmed security door to get up there" (proven wrong already by enough youtube vids) for guests/visitors/killers.

for heavy equipment and stuff, of course, you take the staircase and the door, not the fire ladder ;)
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wow I didn't know that it was that easy to access the roof some therefore anyone could have taken her up there or she could of just wondered up there herself has it been said if the lid to the tank was locked or not
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1733349

I don't think it's that easy that you can just wander up there. If you look at pictures of the Cecil Hotel it clearly does not have fire escapes everywhere leading to the rooftop. Those available would be via fire exit doors which trigger an alarm upon opening.

[link to www.google.com (secure)]
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read somewhere else from 14th floor you have access to the ladder.
as some youtube videos of people hanging out up there and the graffitis show, it is not that difficult, if someone wants to.
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So it didn't necessarily have to be someone with a key it could have been another hotel guest of elisa herself
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i meant wrong for "you need to take the locked alarmed security door to get up there" (proven wrong already by enough youtube vids) for guests/visitors/killers.

for heavy equipment and stuff, of course, you take the staircase and the door, not the fire ladder ;)
 Quoting: phoenixe


wow I didn't know that it was that easy to access the roof some therefore anyone could have taken her up there or she could of just wondered up there herself has it been said if the lid to the tank was locked or not
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1733349

I don't think it's that easy that you can just wander up there. If you look at pictures of the Cecil Hotel it clearly does not have fire escapes everywhere leading to the rooftop. Those available would be via fire exit doors which trigger an alarm upon opening.

[link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35230660


Are positive about access to the roof? Also assuming the alarms on those doors work it would take a key to open the door without the alarm sounding.
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Positive? That's the info reported on the news and in articles. Fire exit doors do not need keys to open. That would defeat their purpose. They do trigger an alarm though. Can alarms fail or be bypassed? I'm sure they can. I still don't think the roof is easy to access and that one can just wander on up there.
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wow I didn't know that it was that easy to access the roof some therefore anyone could have taken her up there or she could of just wondered up there herself has it been said if the lid to the tank was locked or not
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1733349

I don't think it's that easy that you can just wander up there. If you look at pictures of the Cecil Hotel it clearly does not have fire escapes everywhere leading to the rooftop. Those available would be via fire exit doors which trigger an alarm upon opening.

[link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35230660


read somewhere else from 14th floor you have access to the ladder.
as some youtube videos of people hanging out up there and the graffitis show, it is not that difficult, if someone wants to.
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So it didn't necessarily have to be someone with a key it could have been another hotel guest of elisa herself
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someone else, yes.
elisa not so much, as she was dead when she arrived at the roof, as autopsie did not show any signs of drowning or lack of oxygen as reason for her death.
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wow I didn't know that it was that easy to access the roof some therefore anyone could have taken her up there or she could of just wondered up there herself has it been said if the lid to the tank was locked or not
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1733349

I don't think it's that easy that you can just wander up there. If you look at pictures of the Cecil Hotel it clearly does not have fire escapes everywhere leading to the rooftop. Those available would be via fire exit doors which trigger an alarm upon opening.

[link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35230660


Are positive about access to the roof? Also assuming the alarms on those doors work it would take a key to open the door without the alarm sounding.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1733349


Positive? That's the info reported on the news and in articles. Fire exit doors do not need keys to open. That would defeat their purpose. They do trigger an alarm though. Can alarms fail or be bypassed? I'm sure they can. I still don't think the roof is easy to access and that one can just wander on up there.
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wow I didn't know that it was that easy to access the roof some therefore anyone could have taken her up there or she could of just wondered up there herself has it been said if the lid to the tank was locked or not
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1733349

I don't think it's that easy that you can just wander up there. If you look at pictures of the Cecil Hotel it clearly does not have fire escapes everywhere leading to the rooftop. Those available would be via fire exit doors which trigger an alarm upon opening.

[link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35230660


Are positive about access to the roof? Also assuming the alarms on those doors work it would take a key to open the door without the alarm sounding.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1733349


Positive? That's the info reported on the news and in articles. Fire exit doors do not need keys to open. That would defeat their purpose. They do trigger an alarm though. Can alarms fail or be bypassed? I'm sure they can. I still don't think the roof is easy to access and that one can just wander on up there.
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What im saying is with emergecy doors that are rigged to an alarm the alarm can be bypassed with a key you put he key in and you can open the door without the alarm going off
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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
Also has anyone looked into her tumblr post talking about the man with the tattoo hands and the possibility the lead singer of the band slitwrist may be a suspect I read something he had written referencing the truth an a secret
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maybe you can come up with some links here, as you already did the research? would be great :) thx!
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Hi, my first post here so I hope the links work...


You might need to be a member of the group to see this..
[link to www.facebook.com]

Groups here:
[link to www.facebook.com]




Some interesting posts by Elisa found here:
[link to www.tumblr.com]

I’m going out tonight

I really hope no creeper comes near me

Seriously though

those Italian and Mexican guys go after you STRONG

Show the slightest inclination and they hound you

- Possibly a Italian or Mexican is to blame? Evidently by her posts, she must have had trouble with men of this nature..




Well anyway. Back to this "Morbid/Slitwrist guy.."

His FaceBook
[link to www.facebook.com]

(Name is Morbid XlIl)
(His nickname seems to be Bluechild - Didn't a post say that Elisa's name translated though the Google translator to something like this? )

He has been speaking a different language too on some posts
(Morbid XlIl es un retrato perfecto
See Translation
19 January at 22:10 · Like

Morbid XlIl mentirosa si lo pensaste!
See Translation
20 January at 05:28 · Like) - Could fit in with Italian / Mexican that Elisa had posted about on Tumblr?




Lots of his FB stuff is public btw.
He has tattoos, I do not see if he has them on his hand though..
In his photos he has guns, knifes etc..
But he says some strange stuff and has been posting many accusations that he has had regarding Elisa. Page full of Satanic stuff and demons too..


He is in this Chinese news clip too about Elisa...
[link to www.facebook.com]




Captions on his photos like :
'Died in Pain'

- that feeling that something very bad is about to happen
and then you stay there.. alone in the dark
waiting...
and there you stay
there is nothing...
no one

Morbid disposes of Asael in the woods.

'for everything around me which I experience is cold and dead'


He also supposedly had a video he had uploaded in Hotel Cecil on his youtube channel, it seems he made it private. But now it seems his page has been suspended/removed..
His username was : lordazmodeus

Upon Googling it , this is first result.

lordazmodeus - YouTube
m.youtube.com/channel/UCc0GVU0vpZuaVBLDtT7_1ZA?gl...lordazmod​eus. Mar 24, 2006 joined. 59 subscribers. 109,382 channel views. profile icon ... video · morbid310812bloodritual. 0:12. by lordazmodeus. 21 views ...


I bolded the blood ritual bit.. It seems that Satanism uses human rituals and sacrifices ? (I am not an expert so if I am wrong then do please correct me.. Maybe if this was the man who did the crime to Elisa, he could have done it as a sacrifice?)



OH~ and some news on the case:
[link to www.huffingtonpost.ca]
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Also has anyone looked into her tumblr post talking about the man with the tattoo hands and the possibility the lead singer of the band slitwrist may be a suspect I read something he had written referencing the truth an a secret
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maybe you can come up with some links here, as you already did the research? would be great :) thx!
 Quoting: phoenixe


Hi, my first post here so I hope the links work...


You might need to be a member of the group to see this..
[link to www.facebook.com]

Groups here:
[link to www.facebook.com]




Some interesting posts by Elisa found here:
[link to www.tumblr.com]

I’m going out tonight

I really hope no creeper comes near me

Seriously though

those Italian and Mexican guys go after you STRONG

Show the slightest inclination and they hound you

- Possibly a Italian or Mexican is to blame? Evidently by her posts, she must have had trouble with men of this nature..




Well anyway. Back to this "Morbid/Slitwrist guy.."

His FaceBook
[link to www.facebook.com]

(Name is Morbid XlIl)
(His nickname seems to be Bluechild - Didn't a post say that Elisa's name translated though the Google translator to something like this? )

He has been speaking a different language too on some posts
(Morbid XlIl es un retrato perfecto
See Translation
19 January at 22:10 · Like

Morbid XlIl mentirosa si lo pensaste!
See Translation
20 January at 05:28 · Like) - Could fit in with Italian / Mexican that Elisa had posted about on Tumblr?




Lots of his FB stuff is public btw.
He has tattoos, I do not see if he has them on his hand though..
In his photos he has guns, knifes etc..
But he says some strange stuff and has been posting many accusations that he has had regarding Elisa. Page full of Satanic stuff and demons too..


He is in this Chinese news clip too about Elisa...
[link to www.facebook.com]




Captions on his photos like :
'Died in Pain'

- that feeling that something very bad is about to happen
and then you stay there.. alone in the dark
waiting...
and there you stay
there is nothing...
no one

Morbid disposes of Asael in the woods.

'for everything around me which I experience is cold and dead'


He also supposedly had a video he had uploaded in Hotel Cecil on his youtube channel, it seems he made it private. But now it seems his page has been suspended/removed..
His username was : lordazmodeus

Upon Googling it , this is first result.

lordazmodeus - YouTube
m.youtube.com/channel/UCc0GVU0vpZuaVBLDtT7_1ZA?gl...lordazmod​eus. Mar 24, 2006 joined. 59 subscribers. 109,382 channel views. profile icon ... video · morbid310812bloodritual. 0:12. by lordazmodeus. 21 views ...


I bolded the blood ritual bit.. It seems that Satanism uses human rituals and sacrifices ? (I am not an expert so if I am wrong then do please correct me.. Maybe if this was the man who did the crime to Elisa, he could have done it as a sacrifice?)



OH~ and some news on the case:
[link to www.huffingtonpost.ca]
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wow, that´s a lot stuff to take a look at - thank you!
so many possible suspects here..
so many interesting findings!

and all we do get from the officals is a crappy video. :(
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Nonverbal Communication Analysis # 2313:
Elisa Lam Video in Elevator at Cecil Hotel -
What Her Body Language Tells Us ....


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Re: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.
I applaud your responsibility for making a really good, and important thread... that being said, have you noticed how A LOT of news stories just don't add up anymore? Have you, as many have, begun to question the truth/reality behind many many news stories? Just saying, I do not believe more than half anymore.
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I applaud your responsibility for making a really good, and important thread... that being said, have you noticed how A LOT of news stories just don't add up anymore? Have you, as many have, begun to question the truth/reality behind many many news stories? Just saying, I do not believe more than half anymore.
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do you mind to elaborate which parts/stories you´re talking about? i am really interested.


i am still questioning many things in that case, the news stories are just another thing what doesn´t add up here..
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Nonverbal Communication Analysis # 2313:
Elisa Lam Video in Elevator at Cecil Hotel -
What Her Body Language Tells Us ....


[link to www.bodylanguagesuccess.com]
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interesting... do you mind if i put that over in the elevator-thread?
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There might have been equipment brought to the scene for the body's removal that's not ordinarily there ....
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i meant wrong for "you need to take the locked alarmed security door to get up there" (proven wrong already by enough youtube vids) for guests/visitors/killers.

for heavy equipment and stuff, of course, you take the staircase and the door, not the fire ladder ;)
 Quoting: phoenixe


wow I didn't know that it was that easy to access the roof some therefore anyone could have taken her up there or she could of just wondered up there herself has it been said if the lid to the tank was locked or not
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1733349

I don't think it's that easy that you can just wander up there. If you look at pictures of the Cecil Hotel it clearly does not have fire escapes everywhere leading to the rooftop. Those available would be via fire exit doors which trigger an alarm upon opening.

[link to www.google.com (secure)]
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Based on the last comment above, the number os suspects can be narrowed down to the employees or those who have been long term residents at the hotel?

Anyone disagree?
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Nonverbal Communication Analysis # 2313:
Elisa Lam Video in Elevator at Cecil Hotel -
What Her Body Language Tells Us ....


[link to www.bodylanguagesuccess.com]
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interesting... do you mind if i put that over in the elevator-thread?
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whoops! sorry if i placed it in the wrong thread-- by all means move it!
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Nonverbal Communication Analysis # 2313:
Elisa Lam Video in Elevator at Cecil Hotel -
What Her Body Language Tells Us ....


[link to www.bodylanguagesuccess.com]
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interesting... do you mind if i put that over in the elevator-thread?
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whoops! sorry if i placed it in the wrong thread-- by all means move it!
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i meant wrong for "you need to take the locked alarmed security door to get up there" (proven wrong already by enough youtube vids) for guests/visitors/killers.

for heavy equipment and stuff, of course, you take the staircase and the door, not the fire ladder ;)
 Quoting: phoenixe


wow I didn't know that it was that easy to access the roof some therefore anyone could have taken her up there or she could of just wondered up there herself has it been said if the lid to the tank was locked or not
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1733349

I don't think it's that easy that you can just wander up there. If you look at pictures of the Cecil Hotel it clearly does not have fire escapes everywhere leading to the rooftop. Those available would be via fire exit doors which trigger an alarm upon opening.

[link to www.google.com (secure)]
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Based on the last comment above, the number os suspects can be narrowed down to the employees or those who have been long term residents at the hotel?

Anyone disagree?
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yes, me. anyone could take the fire ladder from 14th floor up there, and as someone mentioned in another thread, with simply putting a key in the emergency doors lock, there would be no alarm going off.
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Elisa Lam Video in Elevator at Cecil Hotel -
What Her Body Language Tells Us ....


[link to www.bodylanguagesuccess.com]
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interesting... do you mind if i put that over in the elevator-thread?
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whoops! sorry if i placed it in the wrong thread-- by all means move it!
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no problem at all, i just do think the folks over there have more fun with that :)
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new pics i've spotted

:14mirror:
view from elevator doors


:14th:
layout of 14th floor

:evacuate:
evacuation plan

:to15th:
stairs to roof would be where arrow is

:viewCECIL:
view from the Cecil roof by night
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Phoe - i misread the details to the 4th photo - this pic details where the fire escapes would lead on the roof line.
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Phoe - i misread the details to the 4th photo - this pic details where the fire escapes would lead on the roof line.
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Thank you for your message! I could not reply (not paid) but I did check it out. It's a little frightening, don't you think?
 Quoting: Requiemdream (Ghost)


i know you can´t reply, i hoped you´ll do it here.
yes, a bit scary. strange one. don´t say the name here, he gets off easily !
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No worries there! Good work, btw.
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I'm just wondering why the LAPD does not reveal apparent information such as external bruises. If any fingerprints or clothes cannot be found, then at least they are sure of external bruises. And of course, the murderer-if there is one-knows LAPD knows already. What's the point of hiding the fact except that there are personal interests involved?
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yeah, easier to believe it was some spooky creepy supernatural ghost than anything...

but, the lid of the tank is big enough to even fit me in, and i am not a small, petite asian..

but let me repeat what i wrote on my first page:

...these are chosen to give the case a "supernatural" touch, it f+cks with people´s minds:
you´re attracted to them in a strange way and repelled the same time;
they give you shivers down your spine and no one really wants to have something to do with that stuff, out of a (ir)rational fear, as one can´t control "these things" or "proof their existence".
they are pretty much "believe or believe not" stuff like religions are.
No one really likes to question these things, let alone "get in touch" with them personally, that´s why people are easier willing to believe those things just "exist" and "happen".
And i do think that is the exact purpose for these things to _be_ weird case.
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Have you seen the creepy Vimeo stuff from a resident of the Cecil? Many synchronous scenes with what happened to this girl by his little 30 second films that abruptly end and play like snuff films as noted by an AC in another thread by 333
 Quoting: ArcanoExAngelos


yes, there is something about them on the elevator-thread as well, but no one seems to care.. and as i read on another thread, this guy makes those films with porn stars and alike, so .. not really that suspicious at all - for me.
just a weirdo who likes strange things and strange locations.
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Talking about the ladder, there was a game mentioned in Elisa Lam's dairy which her boyfriend liked to play. It was named Life 4 Death. The game was about getting to the roof of a building and escaping from the pump line, which coincides with this story. And in the opening theme of the game, at about 2'27'', there was a building pretty much like Cecil Hotel, with a line of ladders and a hole at the top of the roof.
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I do not know if this is the right place to put this post but since my network connectio is slow, I just put it here. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

At first I did not understand why the girl was moving so slowly. Today I came to know that everything she did was to imitate the game Life 4 Death. You can imagine how slowly players moved in the game. There was a healing process for the players, which is amazingly similar to her reaching out her hands and bending knees. And when she began "dancing" it was helping her partners heal. These all make sense how she moved in a peculiar way.

I feel like she was just playing a real game with someone else. But I am not sure. It could be just her illusions. And I also cannot determine if this is connected to murder or her suicide, or if she was on drug or alcohol.
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To refer to relevant game pictures of Life 4 Death. You can click the following link.

[link to tieba.baidu.com]
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I strongly believe the video is a hoax because why is this the ONLY video to be released? Nearly all hotels and motels now have tons of security cameras all over the place now. Even the smallest 2 story crappy ones have security cams and high surveillance. It's necessary for liability issues in case they're sued or false allegations and security of guests.

So surely this place has other cameras ON THE ROOF and at the water tank itself. And in the hallways and lobby areas. So there must be footage of her wandering the hallways and roof fotage if this indeed happened. It would show exactly how it happened and how she got in there. Unless of course the whole system was disabled.
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Here is a thorough explanation of Elisa Lam's video.

She was acting a game name named Life for Death. The reasons are as follows.

1. She wrote about the game in her blog. She mentioned a guy who like this game. It could be possible that they met up in LA acting the game.

2. Throughout the video her movements were so weird. Her legs were so rigid, and her feet twisted several times. This could be normal behavior. There are two possible explanations: She could be on drug, or she could be acting the game. As you know, people in computer games move slowly.

3. She began to reach out her arms. In the game it was when someone is healing herself. Then she began to "dance", as you would call it. She bent down several times and began "counting". In the game it was when someone was healing her partner.

4. She put on a smile when she hid herself in the corner of the elevator. If she was followed and frightened, she could not have been smiling.

5. She dart out of the elevator once--with swift movements, and she was so calm when she walked inside of the elevator. These all contradicts drug theory. Well, it still can be possible if she was on a little drug. But that was not the main reason she was behaving that way.

6. She pushed all the buttons, including the HOLD button. She just did not intend to go down. Or maybe she intended to go down a little later.

7. The settings of the Cecil hotel was similar to the game. In the game story begins on the roof, and then go down through the elevator on the right handside.

I am not sure if this has anything to do with murder. But it seems to me that she was in her normal state of mind, not freaked out, not on drug.

I hope the above analysis is helpful to you all.
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I strongly believe the video is a hoax because why is this the ONLY video to be released? Nearly all hotels and motels now have tons of security cameras all over the place now. Even the smallest 2 story crappy ones have security cams and high surveillance. It's necessary for liability issues in case they're sued or false allegations and security of guests.

So surely this place has other cameras ON THE ROOF and at the water tank itself. And in the hallways and lobby areas. So there must be footage of her wandering the hallways and roof fotage if this indeed happened. It would show exactly how it happened and how she got in there. Unless of course the whole system was disabled.
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I've posted quite a few links that contain links to articles that contain all the most relevant information. I find myself posting the same links over and over again because I don't think anyone actually reads the whole article.
Anyway, there were no cameras on the roof of the hotel...

Lopez said there are no security cameras on the roof.

[link to www.cbsnews.com]

In addition to that another bit of relevant info is that identification of her body was made through "body markings".

LAPD Officer Diana Figueroa told CTV News late Tuesday that officials confirmed the identity through body markings.

Read more: [link to bc.ctvnews.ca]
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I'm just wondering why the LAPD does not reveal apparent information such as external bruises. If any fingerprints or clothes cannot be found, then at least they are sure of external bruises. And of course, the murderer-if there is one-knows LAPD knows already. What's the point of hiding the fact except that there are personal interests involved?
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i like your nickname :)

i wonder the same.. they are hiding something for sure.
everything what they let us know is no "information" at all, but distraction - if they say anything at all.

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