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New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.

 
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please, don´t post creepy videos here.
that stuff freaks me out. really.

just a link if you like to, but please don´t embed the vid. it slows down page loading time as well.
thank you !
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the psychic in the video Chelsea Damali is the same psychic who wrote about Elisa Lam being killed by ghosts.
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she might of had a window view to the the fire escape stairs and that's how she got on the roof....
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Good point, we shouldn't overlook this.
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please, don´t post creepy videos here.
that stuff freaks me out. really.

just a link if you like to, but please don´t embed the vid. it slows down page loading time as well.
thank you !
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the psychic in the video Chelsea Damali is the same psychic who wrote about Elisa Lam being killed by ghosts.
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..interesting..
but i can´t watch stuff like that. it creeps me out. but maybe interesting for other users.

but...being killed by ghosts doesn´t explain why she has a facebook page made last thursday ?
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she might of had a window view to the the fire escape stairs and that's how she got on the roof....
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Good point, we shouldn't overlook this.
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i´d rather go with "how she got on the roof - but not on her own" as someone must have helped her in the water tank. was explained in the other threads, as they are closed, 10feet high and only have a really small door to get in.
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she might of had a window view to the the fire escape stairs and that's how she got on the roof....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34984454


Good point, we shouldn't overlook this.
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i´d rather go with "how she got on the roof - but not on her own" as someone must have helped her in the water tank. was explained in the other threads, as they are closed, 10feet high and only have a really small door to get in.
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Someone might have brought her through the fire escape, which would rule out the idea that only a maintenance worker could have helped her out

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so strange, and with that tb test being her name and all. something weird is going on but idk what.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31781644


i know about the tb test, but i "cut this out" in this thread, as it has no connection to this weird fb page.
 Quoting: phoenixe


LA corpse is a hoax,there's 5 points,one is no piks no truth.
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possibly it is a hoax or, better put, a cover-up for the tb outbreak. i would think so as well, as there are not many pictures (and if, always the same) of this girl to be found on the internet.
but: if it is a hoax, it does not explain this fb page. it is just plain unnecessary to put it up at all - if the case is a hoax.

so i go with: this girl was murdered. we just don´t know yet why and by whom.
 Quoting: phoenixe


mabey .. just mabey this army dude knows more and is trying to alert the world to something without getting his ass killed... just a thought..
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Her last tweet says "SPEAKEASY." If you google speakeasy Los Angeles, you get The Varnish, which is a "secret" bar in the back of Cole's Restaurant, with an unmarked door. Cole's is right around the corner from the Cecil Hotel- have a look on google maps... Did she meet someone here that led to her undoing?
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i know about the tb test, but i "cut this out" in this thread, as it has no connection to this weird fb page.
 Quoting: phoenixe


LA corpse is a hoax,there's 5 points,one is no piks no truth.
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possibly it is a hoax or, better put, a cover-up for the tb outbreak. i would think so as well, as there are not many pictures (and if, always the same) of this girl to be found on the internet.
but: if it is a hoax, it does not explain this fb page. it is just plain unnecessary to put it up at all - if the case is a hoax.

so i go with: this girl was murdered. we just don´t know yet why and by whom.
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mabey .. just mabey this army dude knows more and is trying to alert the world to something without getting his ass killed... just a thought..
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maybe just maybe you spelled maybe wrong
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ok, i got it. if i report to the police, i would go to jail and a possible suspect gets no examination. just plain wonderful.

why (and who?) are they coming up with her being depressed and schizophrenic now? would be interesting..
maybe she was both. does not explain how this girl ended up in the tank _on_her_own_.
 Quoting: phoenixe


What the credibility of the "friend". If she was part of a network gas-lighting her then of course she would be happy to come forward and say she had an illness. Or if she was really a friend, I'm curious if this illness started when a new person or persons entered her life.
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please, fellow GLPers, whoever is somewhat intersted in the Elisa Lam case, take a look at this.

because no one is taking notice of it in 2 threads and it seems like it is ignored on purpose - and i think it is maybe something important:
(and if not, a really sick joke)

...




did you have a look at richard schmelters FB page by any chance
 Quoting: phoenixe


OMG.

please please, klick at his profile picture, showing him in the red suit.
look at the girl in the background and the comments on this pic.

i suppose i am right.

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damned oops2 alone gasp siren2 scared
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Her last tweet says "SPEAKEASY." If you google speakeasy Los Angeles, you get The Varnish, which is a "secret" bar in the back of Cole's Restaurant, with an unmarked door. Cole's is right around the corner from the Cecil Hotel- have a look on google maps... Did she meet someone here that led to her undoing?
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Exactly what I was just checking out!
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i know about the tb test, but i "cut this out" in this thread, as it has no connection to this weird fb page.
 Quoting: phoenixe


LA corpse is a hoax,there's 5 points,one is no piks no truth.
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possibly it is a hoax or, better put, a cover-up for the tb outbreak. i would think so as well, as there are not many pictures (and if, always the same) of this girl to be found on the internet.
but: if it is a hoax, it does not explain this fb page. it is just plain unnecessary to put it up at all - if the case is a hoax.

so i go with: this girl was murdered. we just don´t know yet why and by whom.
 Quoting: phoenixe


mabey .. just mabey this army dude knows more and is trying to alert the world to something without getting his ass killed... just a thought..
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Helloo.

HELLO
HELLO


Hyun Jun Jung. IS A BIOMEDICAL ENGINEERING GRAD!!!!

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

Richards Korean "FRIEND"
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LA corpse is a hoax,there's 5 points,one is no piks no truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28679441


possibly it is a hoax or, better put, a cover-up for the tb outbreak. i would think so as well, as there are not many pictures (and if, always the same) of this girl to be found on the internet.
but: if it is a hoax, it does not explain this fb page. it is just plain unnecessary to put it up at all - if the case is a hoax.

so i go with: this girl was murdered. we just don´t know yet why and by whom.
 Quoting: phoenixe


mabey .. just mabey this army dude knows more and is trying to alert the world to something without getting his ass killed... just a thought..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7843669


Helloo.

HELLO
HELLO


Hyun Jun Jung. IS A BIOMEDICAL ENGINEERING GRAD!!!!

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

Richards Korean "FRIEND"
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[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]
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[link to www.thestar.com]

"In the words of his old associates, Greater Toronto Area mobster Quang Lu was “planted lotus.”

Planted Lotus, refers to the Asian gangland practice of murdering someone, then dropping the body at the bottom of a deep body of water, far from the light of day.


Lu, 47 — his nicknames include “The Black Ghost” and “The Bad Luck Guy” — was found encased in concrete in a barrel by police divers on Sunday in the waters of Lake Ontario off Queens Quay E. near the foot of Jarvis St.

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"Superstitious mobsters, of whom there are many, sometimes like their victims’ bodies to be sealed in concrete and barrels because they believe their spirits can’t get out and avenge them.


After the body is placed in a barrel, concrete powder is inserted. The powder mixes with water and hardens as the body is dropped into water, sealing the body in the barrel and anchoring it under the waves."

Could this be what the killer wanted to do to her?
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Her last tweet says "SPEAKEASY." If you google speakeasy Los Angeles, you get The Varnish, which is a "secret" bar in the back of Cole's Restaurant, with an unmarked door. Cole's is right around the corner from the Cecil Hotel- have a look on google maps... Did she meet someone here that led to her undoing?
 Quoting: HypnoSlaveDoll


interesting find..

btw, last entry on her tumblr is from feb 18th. entry before from feb 16th.(i don´t understand tumblr, maybe you can check?)
on feb 17th, fb page was created and she became friends with this richard.
but: both tumbl and fb does not make sense, if she is said to be dead for 2 weeks.
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[link to www.thestar.com]

"In the words of his old associates, Greater Toronto Area mobster Quang Lu was “planted lotus.”

Planted Lotus, refers to the Asian gangland practice of murdering someone, then dropping the body at the bottom of a deep body of water, far from the light of day.


Lu, 47 — his nicknames include “The Black Ghost” and “The Bad Luck Guy” — was found encased in concrete in a barrel by police divers on Sunday in the waters of Lake Ontario off Queens Quay E. near the foot of Jarvis St.

Snip

"Superstitious mobsters, of whom there are many, sometimes like their victims’ bodies to be sealed in concrete and barrels because they believe their spirits can’t get out and avenge them.


After the body is placed in a barrel, concrete powder is inserted. The powder mixes with water and hardens as the body is dropped into water, sealing the body in the barrel and anchoring it under the waves."

Could this be what the killer wanted to do to her?

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that just creeped me outpope2
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one of her retweets
WTF?

Jena Friedman @JenaFriedman

if a rapist approaches, don't scream "fire", scream "I love you"... it'll get more people's attention and make the rapist lose his erection

Retweeted by L.L
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[link to www.thestar.com]

"In the words of his old associates, Greater Toronto Area mobster Quang Lu was “planted lotus.”

Planted Lotus, refers to the Asian gangland practice of murdering someone, then dropping the body at the bottom of a deep body of water, far from the light of day.


Lu, 47 — his nicknames include “The Black Ghost” and “The Bad Luck Guy” — was found encased in concrete in a barrel by police divers on Sunday in the waters of Lake Ontario off Queens Quay E. near the foot of Jarvis St.

Snip

"Superstitious mobsters, of whom there are many, sometimes like their victims’ bodies to be sealed in concrete and barrels because they believe their spirits can’t get out and avenge them.


After the body is placed in a barrel, concrete powder is inserted. The powder mixes with water and hardens as the body is dropped into water, sealing the body in the barrel and anchoring it under the waves."

Could this be what the killer wanted to do to her?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34984454


does not make sense in any way.

as the body would have been found earlier when the concrete powder hardens and therefore clogs the water pipes, too.
so i suppose the intention was to bury her somewhere where she would not be found soon, as decay in water takes time.

and, as an addon, you need large amounts of concrete powder to harden out a large water supply.
how to get all those bags of concrete up on the roof, unnoticed?

sorry. just good for distraction, not contributing to the solving.
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one of her retweets
WTF?

Jena Friedman @JenaFriedman

if a rapist approaches, don't scream "fire", scream "I love you"... it'll get more people's attention and make the rapist lose his erection

Retweeted by L.L

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RETWEETED on Oct. 20th
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Her last tweet says "SPEAKEASY." If you google speakeasy Los Angeles, you get The Varnish, which is a "secret" bar in the back of Cole's Restaurant, with an unmarked door. Cole's is right around the corner from the Cecil Hotel- have a look on google maps... Did she meet someone here that led to her undoing?
 Quoting: HypnoSlaveDoll


interesting find..

btw, last entry on her tumblr is from feb 18th. entry before from feb 16th.(i don´t understand tumblr, maybe you can check?)
on feb 17th, fb page was created and she became friends with this richard.
but: both tumbl and fb does not make sense, if she is said to be dead for 2 weeks.
 Quoting: phoenixe


Last tweet was January 27, which fits the timeline. The link to her Tumblr from her Twitter page appears to no longer work? Probably been "scrubbed" already if it doesn't fit the "official" timeline...
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whats the link to her tumblr page?
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heh nevermind
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Her last tweet says "SPEAKEASY." If you google speakeasy Los Angeles, you get The Varnish, which is a "secret" bar in the back of Cole's Restaurant, with an unmarked door. Cole's is right around the corner from the Cecil Hotel- have a look on google maps... Did she meet someone here that led to her undoing?
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Interesting...

As I get older (and have more disposable income), I dress more like a little english schoolboy



I maintain my belief that the most stylish people right now are Koreans which is why I want to be a male k-pop star
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Her last tweet says "SPEAKEASY." If you google speakeasy Los Angeles, you get The Varnish, which is a "secret" bar in the back of Cole's Restaurant, with an unmarked door. Cole's is right around the corner from the Cecil Hotel- have a look on google maps... Did she meet someone here that led to her undoing?
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Interesting...

As I get older (and have more disposable income), I dress more like a little english schoolboy



I maintain my belief that the most stylish people right now are Koreans which is why I want to be a male k-pop star
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Looking thru twitter, is this her instagram?

[link to instagram.com]
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It appears to be. L.L. is a common theme amongst her social network profiles.
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whats the link to her tumblr page?
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posted on p2: [link to nouvelle-nouveau.tumblr.com]

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it's all just very weird, i don't know what to make of it.
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It is! And her friend's facebook page, really is interesting, it looks kind of like he doesn't like women, or sees women as just things. Also the photos and friends look interesting, he has a lot of Asian women as facebook friends...does anyone know where he was?

And that this was created right around that time, is really odd.

How do you know it is her official page and not created by someone else though?
 Quoting: Heavenly Alchemy


What was the date it was created out of curiosity.

The rooftop vid was posted on youtube feb 14 which i find odd.
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Sorry it took so long to respond, I stepped away from the computer for a bit. The page wasn't created until this Thursday, the 21st so there is no way she could have created the page.
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please, don´t post things already posted/mentioned in the other threads about this case.

there is good and valuable information in those threads,
but i made this thread to investigate and get your opinions of the new findings, an odd facebook profile and maybe her twitter/tumblr accounts, as this doesn´t get enough attention in those other threads.

thank you.


this is what i made this thread about.

a facebook page from elisa lam, out of the blue, created on feb 17th, when she was already dead.

this fb page has only 1 friend, richard schmelter, in whose profil picture you can see a korean girl in the background (according to his comments on the picture from jan 28th.)

according to what is supposed to be her tumbl account, her last entry there is from 3 weeks ago, last entry " arrived in la land"

i have to suppose this richard schmelter made this elisa lam facebook page. (as he is the only friend of this account. it does not seem to be one of the usual "tribute" accounts to a dead person).

but why?
and why on a date where she was already dead?


please, fellow GLPers, whoever is somewhat intersted in the Elisa Lam case, take a look at this.

because no one is taking notice of it in 2 threads and it seems like it is ignored on purpose - and i think it is maybe something important:
(and if not, a really sick joke)

[link to www.facebook.com]

this is her REAL facebook..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34984454


impossible. this page is up since thursday.

who is this robert schmelter who is her only friend on there?

just a thought, not to blame someone:
this robert schmelter made this fb page with her pic.
look at his pics and his eyes. there´s something in them what creeps me out, so much coldness.
maybe he is the reason she ended up in the water tank.
if not, it is a really sick joke by him making this page.
 Quoting: phoenixe





Please, anyone else have an opinion on this?

where does this FB page come out of the blue on thursday?

this is sick.
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do not know who any of the people are and really don't care.
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Her last tweet says "SPEAKEASY." If you google speakeasy Los Angeles, you get The Varnish, which is a "secret" bar in the back of Cole's Restaurant, with an unmarked door. Cole's is right around the corner from the Cecil Hotel- have a look on google maps... Did she meet someone here that led to her undoing?
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Interesting...

As I get older (and have more disposable income), I dress more like a little english schoolboy



I maintain my belief that the most stylish people right now are Koreans which is why I want to be a male k-pop star
 Quoting: J&V


Looking thru twitter, is this her instagram?

[link to instagram.com]
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There's a pic of a newspaper in there from Ottowa, Canada. Is that where she lived? If yes then maybe it is.
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it's all just very weird, i don't know what to make of it.
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It is! And her friend's facebook page, really is interesting, it looks kind of like he doesn't like women, or sees women as just things. Also the photos and friends look interesting, he has a lot of Asian women as facebook friends...does anyone know where he was?

And that this was created right around that time, is really odd.

How do you know it is her official page and not created by someone else though?
 Quoting: Heavenly Alchemy


What was the date it was created out of curiosity.

The rooftop vid was posted on youtube feb 14 which i find odd.
 Quoting: J&V


Sorry it took so long to respond, I stepped away from the computer for a bit. The page wasn't created until this Thursday, the 21st so there is no way she could have created the page.
 Quoting: Heavenly Alchemy


what roof top video was added on feb 14th ?!

seems i missed it? please link ?

and what page being created on the 21st?





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