New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you.

Yes, please.

Yes I agree it is possible that the girl is not EL. The video is too vague.

Apologies. I remembered it as 'mafia' when in fact it was Spanish and Italian stalkers. I have no clue why I did that. Here is the video.

As far as number 3 goes didnt she hit the door open button what makes you think someone was controling the elevator

A. Elisa Lam pressed 6 (six) buttons (14, 10, 7, 4, M, and DOOR HOLD). This explains WHY and HOW the door stayed opened during her duration of CCTV visibility. Ever ride an elevator? And press multiple floors at once?

B. Elisa Lam was X, Y, Z (she was either sober, on drugs, not on drugs, drank alcohol, didn't drink alcohol, [ECT]. Who are you to say otherwise? We see a women in and out of an elevator.

C. Elisa Lam was on the 14th floor. What happens on the 14th floor of a building that has a 15th floor PLUS a roof top w/ 4 water tanks? What was she doing there?

D. Elisa Lam died, before or after she was within a water tank on top of a building.

E. How did Elisa Lam get on top of this building and into a water tank?

F. Did Elisa Lam manage to place herself into a water tank on top of a building?

G. If Elisa Lam did not manage to place herself into a water tank [who placed her into a water tank]?

H. [Were employees of Cecil] involved in this unfortunate situation or was it [residential/ a random passerby] of Cecil/ Skid Row? OR BOTH?

I. Was Elisa Lam a victim of much "higher" ordeals? [Including spiritual, non-spiritual, ECT]


The point is, this video shows a certain amount of facts. These facts include:
A. A lady was in an elevator at a moment in time (WHICH TIME/DATE/ECT WAS THIS)
B. A lady was in and out of an elevator.
C. A lady died and was found within a water tank.

Either way these facts are deciphered, a lady died and was found in a water tank on top of an L.A. building.

THESE ARE THE FACTS AS WE KNOW AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

I don't know if this has been mentioned already. A point worth noticing is that Elisa Lam is highly shortsighted. This was revealed from her family and friends, and we can see from the video that she could not even see the buttons.

The point is, how did she come out of her room without glasses? Was it forced or it voluntary?

One suspicious behavior of the LAPD.

They announced recently that the video was released to help people get to know how Elisa Lam look like. But they also say that the girl in the video does not look like Elisa Lam on her Facebook. Doesn't the second statement contradict the former? It seems that they are greatly regretful about releasing the video. What is LAPD trying to cover?

The Hermit was reblogged on her Tumblr
[link to nouvelle-nouveau.tumblr.com]

Now before we LOSE OUR MINDS here, let's just think of this as the ether offering us a clue. That's all. It was a queued reblog, nothing sinister about that, nothing to freak out about. Coincidences happen when we interact with the ether. And when the coincidences interact with each other, I think they are painting us some kind of picture (Chris Dorner on the lam, Elisa Lam, "lamb", fire, fireballs over Cali, TB outbreak, female water deaths in February, etc. etc. etc.)

Anyway, to me, The Hermit indicates it was an "inside job". She was killed inside the hotel, and was "in" for the night, as shown by her casual clothes, lack of a purse or bag, flip flops, etc. Also, I would say that the perp is likely an older man, older than middle age, and someone who has been in the hotel for a long time, rarely if ever leaving. Someone who has inside knowledge of the hotel. A "patriarch" figure, not a young man. Someone promising to 'show her the way', maybe? Someone who can fade back into the scenery and not be seen. That doesn't mean he absconded (or went on the lam) - it means he's 'invisible'. BUT I DOUBT LITERALLY, y'all. I feel that one person, or at least type of person, is strongly indicated by facts and reasoning as well as esoteric clues and coinkydinks.

from biddytarot.com, on The Hermit:
"He wears the grey cloak of invisibility. His secrets are not for everyone, only for those earnestly seeking them and those willing to climb the heights to wisdom."

(I think this also could indicate that she willingly went to the roof with him)

Last Edited by blueflowers on 02/28/2013 02:13 AM

There was a helpful conversation with a law enforcement type of person posted on another forum, and in one part the person indicates that law enforcement (much like the occult) has a "duty to warn". So no way is this a random killer who escaped somewhere, or they would absolutely have to say something. So,
1) she killed herself or had an accident - if so, how have they determined this already? There must be a lot more information available to them than we have (obviously) strongly indicating this. Additional video footage...?

2) she was murdered and the perpetrator has not been apprehended but is somewhere where he ain't going anywhere and can be watched (why wait, though?)

3) ?????????? some kind of coverup?


The "duty to warn" really makes me think of the TB outbreak down the street, though. Seriously. They find her body, and within days there is a "warning" about TB. I know these two things "can't" be related, but they have to be, somehow.

[link to maps.google.com]

Others have noted this, the bus with the ad that says "Murder is back in season" with a bloody orange on the street view of the Cecil Hotel. Crazy, right?
So this whole thing is either a big social media joke, it's entertainment for us amateur sleuths and conspiracy theorists and benefits....someone...? Because that's too much of a coincidence. The google van was there at the exact same time as that bus, with that ad, in front of the Cecil. Too much.
Or, the universe works magic through our vast and unceasing media and delivers messages.
Either is possible.

mafia guys were definatly mentioned somewhere,it's not your imagination.wether it's her name for them or they told her that i don't know.

Not just anyone could take the fire ladder up there. The only one's who would ever be given a KEY for the emergency door lock or have access to one would be hotel employees.

LAPD hid useful information such as the ladder--which apparently leads to the roof, and intead told us there are only two ways to get onto the roof. Therefore any information from the LAPD should be doubted.

What's more, I'm quite concerned about the daily operations of a hotel. Doesn't it have a daily check of the roof, including the water tank? Given that the doors to the roof is open at least once a day, it is quite natural for a hotel employee to go to the roof, and it is also natural if he just leaves the door open.

And stories like the water tank is too high to get inside should be doubted too. How did workers have a routine check of the water tank then?

I'm more concerned about how Lam's hotel room look like. Which floor she stayed on. Who she contacted during her last days. And whether she left her final notes. Whether she has drugs in her room. These are facts. Yet we have not got any.

Whether it be suicide or murder, I believe that LAPD goes too far in hiding the truth. It must be covering things up for Cecil hotel.

Excellent point

I'm guessing the police have a suspect however they don't release the Id , as to not spook the suspect as they may go into hiding. All of you here are jus clutching n pulling it random straws hoping not to get the short one.

Time will tell!

Hi all. New here. Just wanted to say that every day, several times a day, I come here to read this thread and others like it, to catch up on what's going on in the Elisa Lam case. And every day I watch that video of her in the elevator. And I do it despite the fact that everything about this case, especially the video, totally freaks me out. When I watch the video, I feel like I'm close to a panic attack and it feels very dark and heavy. Everything inside me says to just leave it alone, it is too much darkness and fear for me. But I can't stay away. I don't understand it. Why it all affects me so negatively and why I am so drawn to it all, despite that negativity.

thats why i asked if the speakeasy ref,which we all know is for underground illegal stuff,also means blind pig or blind tiger,if this is a psychotic group/person they work by symbolism.

Speakeasy generally refers to going to a night club and drinking/partying/whatever other things go down.

So yes, it's possible she was on a drug, however, why surpass the possibility of her simply being drunk?

To me she looks like a girl who's had a bit too drink and this explains her "bizarre" movements. I don't think her movements were that odd, considering the times when I myself have been drunk. If someone were to videotape me being drunk I would look like a lunatic to some, and possibly be considered to be on drugs. However, drunk people do drunk things, and drunk things include being overly dramatic with your movements, off balance, ect.

Hi...(and all)

I have been reading (searching/thinking) about this case for five days now and I hope it will be solved soon. Not only for thruth and Elisa's family but also for my own sake.

Getting obsessed with it. Last night I was even translating poetry written by a guy who went to highschool with the victim. But it was probably a different person with the same name. On his picture he looked like Jesus and he had a strange nose that reminded me of someone on this forum...pff

The elevator video doesn't scare me but is interesting if the woman is really Elisa Lam.

I am drawn to it all also, can't remember I was SO 'addicted' to any case (like this) before...

maybe we should take doorbert´s thread Thread: Mysterious new disease striking young women, symptoms mimic demonic possession into consideration somewhere here..
but
NOT with her strange behaviour.. with that, what is spread ...

this is what i am saying all since; do you have a source for your "they say" ? would be great help :)
(i also remember someone of friends/family said she dressed more fashion than hoodie/shorts, that this is unusual, but have no link either..)

hey, this is a hotel with former inmates and in a neighbourhood that is not like "the hamptons" !

there´s many people who would have no problem with opening locks McGuyver-style ;)

link to a video that is supposed to be taken _after_ finding her in the water tank.

has a bit of a loading time, and, is asian, so no idea what´s been said in there.

roof / building looks quite "old", so maybe so much for working emergency doors? no facts, just impressions..

[link to www.tudou.com]

Keep trying to post this, but server keeps going down! I searched this thread and couldn't find this anywhere so I appologize if this is a duplicate post. I found a video that shows the elevator, hallway, etc...from Elisa's point of view, how it would have looked to her while she was in the elevator. Thought it was interesting.

[link to www.tudou.com]

K, that video only shows the view in the elevator. This one he actually goes out into the hallway too.

[link to www.tudou.com]

There's a huge difference between someone willing and having the skills to do it and actually having a key : ) "anyone" implies open access, which there was not.

yep,drunks stumble about for sure,the strangeness of this comes als from tank on roof police allowed to be shown with the way psychotics write,the man who opened a fb page in a red suit and a devil suit and claws.it looks lke she got mixed up with some serious people.

I think there is something wrong with the video / girls name. I also come near a panic attack when I start to watch the video and I can't get her name out of my head even after I turn it off. I don't know but I think there is something ritualistic about the video and all her actions. At 30 years of age I've never had thoughts that I couldn't shake but when I turn on the video I do. Something is up.

I think there is something wrong with the video / girls name. I also come near a panic attack when I start to watch the video and I can't get her name out of my head even after I turn it off. I don't know but I think there is something ritualistic about the video and all her actions. At 30 years of age I've never had thoughts that I couldn't shake but when I turn on the video I do. Something is up.

seems like this all is a big black psyop to drive (some) of us crazy ...

Kind of related...

Odd this is popular on YouTube NOW

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