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I'm joining the Navy - wish me luck, bad idea, or best idea? | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34241302  Mexico02/23/2013 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35003952 Sure, as there are certainly quiet decent human beings in the childsex traffic business. After all, it's just a job for the money. But that doesn't change what the organisation does, what it stands for, and what it was created for. And most importantly, from where it sucks the money out of the system.  Without the guidance of the Navy and parents, i probably wouldnt be where i am today...a great paying honest job, with a trade i learned there, a beautiful wife and a great home within a community of awesome people. Not to mention im almost 40. No doubt you came out unfaized. Good for you. Not what I hear for alot of them, though. Civilian workforce is the way to go. More dangerous, but you learn to love the sea for what it is. Civilian workforce is nice, but you dont have that brotherhood of support if anything happens. Once you plant your feet and become steady you can go your own way, thats tough to do in civilian workforce. Well. Brotherhood (and sisterhood) is what it's all about, overcoming whatever the sea throws at you. We are all in the same boat, lol. One thing I may be prejudiced about the Navy is that officers go to school to be parachuted in their position with few exceptions, whereas the grunts are grunts are grunts. How can you have respect for a dictator when they no nothing of those they order around? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32895948  United States02/23/2013 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | smart move , any branch has its benefits, and dont listen to the clowns who tell you not to join , how would they know anyways 99 % never joined so what do they know. good for you dude you can save alot of money in the service. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34207802 ^^ This. Your housing, medical, and food are all paid for 100%. Just about everything you make you get to save. Stay in for 20 years and you get a nice retirement and medical for the rest of your life. That said, go into the Navy, Air Force, or the Coast Guard if you don't want to get shot at. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35035713 United States02/23/2013 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope, you won't get BAH/BAQ untill you are E-5 and up, in some cases E-6 and up, and even then it still has to be "approved". LOL. You won't be making rank like that in your first enlistment, so no rent until your second time around. I hope you like either 1) paying for rent out of pocket (that is what I did), or 2) living off the boat even when it is in homeport, which basically means having no social life and no pussy for 4 years. Don't buy into the recruiter hype of "dude they give you $2000/month for BAH LOL" shit. I bet the shills ITT are recruiters--- they sure as hell sound like it. You're better off doing CE/EE at a cheap state school for four years if you like technical stuff. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14350333 United States02/23/2013 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone who chooses to serve and enable this so-called "government", while this so-called "government" wages war on the United States Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the American people is a traitor to the the united states of America. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14350333 Is that how you think? Trust me, i served, and that has nothing to do with it...we live, mature and learn what is actually happening as we get older. So did I, and if you still think that enabling this criminal "government" by acting as their hitmen in uniform while this "government" destroys this country from within is patriotic, you haven't learned a fucking thing. Remove the workings of the NAVY and you will see some problems arise...i dont agree with everything they do, but it is a force that has to exist, not only for making young men mature, but giving some guidance to those that have nothing to look forward to The United States military is not a day care program for overgrown children. It is not a reform school either. It is also NOT a job training program, or a substitute for welfare. The United States military machine is not a replacement for the your mommy and daddy, nor is a replacement for a private sector economy that no longer exists. IT IS AN INSTRUMENT OF WAR. PERIOD. It is a killing machine. That is all it is, and that is all it has ever been. It is the enforcement arm of the American "government", which is currently under the control of an organized crime syndicate. |
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| John Donson User ID: 35038353 United States02/23/2013 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, whatever branch you choose is up to you. All the guys I work with in Desktop Support/IT are active Marine or vets of other branches. I'm seriously fortunate because I never joined the mil yet I'm the only person on the team without mil experience that has a Top Secret/Secure Compartmentalized Information (TS/SCI) clearance. Everybody is still wondering who the Hell I know to get that clearance level because you only get those in the mil so I'm a lucky bastard! If you get IT experience in the mil then your economic stability is virtually guaranteed in the civ world unless you are a fuck up! Starting pay for Desktop Support is growing every year. Keep your head straight and learn some shit about technology. Try your best to get into security systems though because that's where the big money is! |
nutmeg  User ID: 34792504 United States02/23/2013 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Luke Skywatcher Navy or nothing, you will enjoy it my friend...i did my basic in San Diego RTC, 1992 Working off the sea is honorable, I worked as a deckhand on tugboats, deepsea,,, That is where you learn to work, to appreciate the lifestyle and be productive. Navy? What is it you boys actually do besides jump when the alarm rings and bunk crammed together like sardines? We do a lot more than what you think we do....cracking jokes is ok, we hear them all the time. Oh I've seen the movies. You run run run to your assigned position, and wait.... You look to the skies, instead of at the sea that you operate over. You follow orders without question, because you are a slave to careerist officers. You are not important, really, as your presence has little to do with the operation and safety of the ship. That's the Navy for you! And what's your civilian job like? Your boss is your officer. You don't follow orders? If you've never been in the US Navy, how can you speak with authority? Let me guess...you can't. Don't believe everything you see in the movies. They have to make it more dramatic than what it really is. Don't you know that? Last Edited by nutmeg on 02/23/2013 08:53 PM |
| nutmeg User ID: 34792504 United States02/23/2013 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | smart move , any branch has its benefits, and dont listen to the clowns who tell you not to join , how would they know anyways 99 % never joined so what do they know. good for you dude you can save alot of money in the service. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34207802 ^^ This. Your housing, medical, and food are all paid for 100%. Just about everything you make you get to save. Stay in for 20 years and you get a nice retirement and medical for the rest of your life. That said, go into the Navy, Air Force, or the Coast Guard if you don't want to get shot at. Great advice!  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34241302 Mexico02/23/2013 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34241302 Working off the sea is honorable, I worked as a deckhand on tugboats, deepsea,,, That is where you learn to work, to appreciate the lifestyle and be productive. Navy? What is it you boys actually do besides jump when the alarm rings and bunk crammed together like sardines? We do a lot more than what you think we do....cracking jokes is ok, we hear them all the time. Oh I've seen the movies. You run run run to your assigned position, and wait.... You look to the skies, instead of at the sea that you operate over. You follow orders without question, because you are a slave to careerist officers. You are not important, really, as your presence has little to do with the operation and safety of the ship. That's the Navy for you! And what's your civilian job like? Your boss is your officer. You don't follow orders? If you've never been in the US Navy, how can you speak with authority? Let me guess...you can't. Keep watching the movies...1doh1: Keep guessing nut, nutmeg. I know that if your a man that loves the sea, dont join "the Navy"... |
| nutmeg User ID: 34792504 United States02/23/2013 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Luke Skywatcher We do a lot more than what you think we do....cracking jokes is ok, we hear them all the time. Oh I've seen the movies. You run run run to your assigned position, and wait.... You look to the skies, instead of at the sea that you operate over. You follow orders without question, because you are a slave to careerist officers. You are not important, really, as your presence has little to do with the operation and safety of the ship. That's the Navy for you! And what's your civilian job like? Your boss is your officer. You don't follow orders? If you've never been in the US Navy, how can you speak with authority? Let me guess...you can't. Keep watching the movies...1doh1: Keep guessing nut, nutmeg. I know that if your a man that loves the sea, dont join "the Navy"... How long were you in the US Navy? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34241302 Mexico02/23/2013 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34241302 Oh I've seen the movies. You run run run to your assigned position, and wait.... You look to the skies, instead of at the sea that you operate over. You follow orders without question, because you are a slave to careerist officers. You are not important, really, as your presence has little to do with the operation and safety of the ship. That's the Navy for you! As with any job in my profession I compare the working conditions, pay, benefits, time on/off, esp who the captain is, the route, then choose what best suits me. The Navy sucks in comparison. How long have you been in the "profession"? And what's your civilian job like? Your boss is your officer. You don't follow orders? If you've never been in the US Navy, how can you speak with authority? Let me guess...you can't. Keep watching the movies...1doh1: Keep guessing nut, nutmeg. I know that if your a man that loves the sea, dont join "the Navy"... How long were you in the US Navy? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35012854 United States02/23/2013 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34241302 Mexico02/23/2013 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34241302 Oh I've seen the movies. You run run run to your assigned position, and wait.... You look to the skies, instead of at the sea that you operate over. You follow orders without question, because you are a slave to careerist officers. You are not important, really, as your presence has little to do with the operation and safety of the ship. That's the Navy for you! And what's your civilian job like? Your boss is your officer. You don't follow orders? If you've never been in the US Navy, how can you speak with authority? Let me guess...you can't. Keep watching the movies...1doh1: Keep guessing nut, nutmeg. I know that if your a man that loves the sea, dont join "the Navy"... How long were you in the US Navy? As with any job in my profession I compare the working conditions, pay, benefits, time on/off, esp who the captain is, and the route, then choose what best suits me. The Navy sucks when making that cost/benefit analysis. How long have you been in the "profession"? |
| nutmeg User ID: 34792504 United States02/23/2013 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | smart move , any branch has its benefits, and dont listen to the clowns who tell you not to join , how would they know anyways 99 % never joined so what do they know. good for you dude you can save alot of money in the service. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34207802 I was in the Navy ---- OP DON'T JOIN. I have no idea what the IT relevant rating does, but my guess is they have BADLY outdated technology that you won't even get to touch mostly. Count on pushing a mop for your first four years basically. I was an AT, and my NEC was 6704 - CASS operator/maintainer. CASS stands for "Consolidated Automated Support System" which is an automated electronics test system that consists of a MicroVAX III (oooo so HIGH TECH!!!) with testing apparatii based on memory mapped I/O peripherals. The shit is a joke, and they are desperately trying to replace it since it cannot live to its overhyped promise. BTW, this is basically the second best rating/NEC next to nuke (I did not want to take the nuke rating). The Navy is full of mosterous sociopaths, and count on getting blackballed if you are taller than your supervisor, have a last name/ethnicity he doesn't like, have to compete with some chick he is getting sucked off by, etc etc. Seen it all --- when you get "blackballed" they will have people make shit up on you so that you get 'written up' and/or send you TAD in perpetuity. If you REALLY want to go military/military like for technical related stuff, I'd suggest the USAF or Coast Guard. You must have had a bad experience.....I have to disagree with your statements Nope, my experience was pretty typical! Why do you think they have such a retention problem? Why do you think they offered me a $30,000 reenlistment bonus? I told them to shove it. LMFAO you clueless clown. According to your response, you just didn't fit in. There are those who don't. You have to be hard working and disciplined....oh...and you can't have a fat ass. Last Edited by nutmeg on 02/23/2013 09:12 PM |
| nutmeg User ID: 34792504 United States02/23/2013 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: nutmeg And what's your civilian job like? Your boss is your officer. You don't follow orders? If you've never been in the US Navy, how can you speak with authority? Let me guess...you can't. Keep watching the movies...1doh1: Keep guessing nut, nutmeg. I know that if your a man that loves the sea, dont join "the Navy"... How long were you in the US Navy? As with any job in my profession I compare the working conditions, pay, benefits, time on/off, esp who the captain is, and the route, then choose what best suits me. The Navy sucks when making that cost/benefit analysis. How long have you been in the "profession"? I asked you first. How long were you in the US Navy to be able to judge it? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34241302 Mexico02/23/2013 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34241302 Keep guessing nut, nutmeg. I know that if your a man that loves the sea, dont join "the Navy"... How long were you in the US Navy? As with any job in my profession I compare the working conditions, pay, benefits, time on/off, esp who the captain is, and the route, then choose what best suits me. The Navy sucks when making that cost/benefit analysis. How long have you been in the "profession"? I asked you first. How long were you in the US Navy to be able to judge it? Okay, I'll bite to see how honest you are. I've already mentioned I have never had the Navy as an employer. No thanks... So own up, how much sea time do you have? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34241302 Mexico02/23/2013 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| nutmeg User ID: 34792504 United States02/23/2013 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As with any job in my profession I compare the working conditions, pay, benefits, time on/off, esp who the captain is, and the route, then choose what best suits me. The Navy sucks when making that cost/benefit analysis. How long have you been in the "profession"? I asked you first. How long were you in the US Navy to be able to judge it? Okay, I'll bite to see how honest you are. I've already mentioned I have never had the Navy as an employer. No thanks... So own up, how much sea time do you have? I haven't, but I didn't talk as if I knew it all as you did....from Mexico? Don't give advice when you don't know. I was a military spouse for 25 years, and I know the benefits. My husband served 25 years in the Army. He loved it and he left a great civilian job. If I had to advise anyone, I'd say join the US Navy or the US Air Force. I have my reasons. Last Edited by nutmeg on 02/23/2013 09:26 PM |
| kungfukitty88 User ID: 23241006 United States02/23/2013 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| nutmeg User ID: 34792504 United States02/23/2013 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You must have spent at least 20 years in the airforce to have that opinion. Uh oh... Last Edited by nutmeg on 02/23/2013 09:29 PM |
| Seaman Richard Semen User ID: 34438955 United States02/23/2013 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34241302 Mexico02/23/2013 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34241302 As with any job in my profession I compare the working conditions, pay, benefits, time on/off, esp who the captain is, and the route, then choose what best suits me. The Navy sucks when making that cost/benefit analysis. How long have you been in the "profession"? I asked you first. How long were you in the US Navy to be able to judge it? Okay, I'll bite to see how honest you are. I've already mentioned I have never had the Navy as an employer. No thanks... So own up, how much sea time do you have? I haven't, but I didn't talk as if I knew it all as you did....from Mexico? Don't give advice when you don't know. I was a military spouse for 25 years, and I know the benefits. My husband served 25 years in the Army. He loved it and he left a great civilian job. If I had to advise anyone, I'd say join the US Navy or the US Air Force. I have my reasons. You know nothing of the Navy, who have never worked at sea. Oh my! |
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| Hulk Hogan Leg Drop User ID: 30178685 United States02/23/2013 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great idea, the. 8 years I was in took me all over the world and made some great life long friend. If I didnt mess up my back in afghanistan i would still be in. Don't listen to what these people say, you will enjoy it. America still has the greatest military in the world, and as long as politics from obama and washington dont get in the way we could crush anyone. After basic when you have your weekend pass. Catch the metra into Chicago and go to benny's chop house. Best steak of my life. |
| -1 User ID: 34993634  Italy02/23/2013 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good luck man! I think it's a good idea. You get action, adventure, make a lot of friends and it is a big plus as a man to do it. About a month ago I went to French foreign legion, tried to get in. Unfortunately I didn't pass the med exam, stayed 2 days there. But the time there was good. You forget about diferences between people. That's why you'll make best friends in the army. Good luck! |
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