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Rising Son (OP) User ID: 19853124 United States 02/23/2013 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree!!!! Very well said OP. Thank you. Quoting: Asyouprefer I love the simplicity of the tasks that are involved in gardening... even just turning over the earth in a new garden bed is pleasurable in it's own way. I've always thought there is something spiritual about gardening - almost like the task of working the earth, planting the seed, and then nurturing it is a microcosm of what God does with us. Thank you :-) That's so true, but we have also to uproot the weeds. Looks like most of us are doing nothing about that. Yes, that's a good point. However, this is where the literal and figurative part ways. To weed a garden, you simply pull out the weed and discard it. To uproot a human weed, you must change the person from a weed to something of substance. So the question becomes what is the best way to change the people who are the weeds of our society? I would say to lead by example - show the weeds how much greener the grass is on the other side of the fence of morality, and convince them to change their ways. Just thinking out loud... "Be still, and know that I am God." Psalm 46:10 Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Rising Son (OP) User ID: 19853124 United States 02/23/2013 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Beautifully said OP, Quoting: paler Sometimes we forget to live and just be, we become so mechanical. I've been working non stop for the last 20 years and have been recently been laid off but it's been a blessing. I can get up in the morning and have a nice walk with my dog. Just walking in nature seeing/feeling/being/breathing/enjoying. Bliss! "To the mind that is still the whole universe surrenders" Thank you - and I love that quote. Who said that? Oops, ment to add, it was Lao Tzu Thank you "Be still, and know that I am God." Psalm 46:10 Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
SnowLeopard User ID: 34971183 Canada 02/23/2013 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't buy cheap shit and I do give to those in need. It is a universal law that whenever there is a void, it gets filled up. You should read The Dynamic Laws of Prosperity by Catherine Ponder before making any more snarky condescending remarks. |
Chuck User ID: 30723337 United States 02/23/2013 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't buy cheap shit and I do give to those in need. It is a universal law that whenever there is a void, it gets filled up. You should read The Dynamic Laws of Prosperity by Catherine Ponder before making any more snarky condescending remarks. U only get what you give sugarplum. Forgo the 10$ steak and by a 5$ one...Five dollars to give |
Chuck User ID: 30723337 United States 02/23/2013 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't buy cheap shit and I do give to those in need. It is a universal law that whenever there is a void, it gets filled up. You should read The Dynamic Laws of Prosperity by Catherine Ponder before making any more snarky condescending remarks. Pumpkin, I need no book to tell me how to live. Observation, treat people like crap, you get treated like crap. I was getting my oil changed in San Bernardino...total shithole, Walking from the store to the Goodyear, a black lady pulls up and says shes has 2 dollars for a 3 dollar meal at Churches Friend Chicken, She needed a buck, I gave her two. My only words : "We all need to eat", she almost cried...fracking killed me. |
Chuck User ID: 30723337 United States 02/23/2013 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't buy cheap shit and I do give to those in need. It is a universal law that whenever there is a void, it gets filled up. You should read The Dynamic Laws of Prosperity by Catherine Ponder before making any more snarky condescending remarks. And babe, I do not need a book, that you paid for, that tells me I need to get an education, and I have a very good private one, myslef and my partner kame ten times more than the rag book can ever magically make you. Rules by Chuck...GET AN EDUCATION. That was free buttercup. |
Rising Son (OP) User ID: 19853124 United States 02/23/2013 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chuck - your names for SnowLeopard are priceless "Be still, and know that I am God." Psalm 46:10 Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18370350 Canada 02/23/2013 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree!!!! Very well said OP. Thank you. Quoting: Asyouprefer I love the simplicity of the tasks that are involved in gardening... even just turning over the earth in a new garden bed is pleasurable in it's own way. I've always thought there is something spiritual about gardening - almost like the task of working the earth, planting the seed, and then nurturing it is a microcosm of what God does with us. Thank you :-) That's so true, but we have also to uproot the weeds. Looks like most of us are doing nothing about that. Yes, that's a good point. However, this is where the literal and figurative part ways. To weed a garden, you simply pull out the weed and discard it. To uproot a human weed, you must change the person from a weed to something of substance. So the question becomes what is the best way to change the people who are the weeds of our society? I would say to lead by example - show the weeds how much greener the grass is on the other side of the fence of morality, and convince them to change their ways. Just thinking out loud... I am enjoying this discussion, and the tangents it has branched off to. Everyone is a beautiful flower, but some just don't know it... yet. You don't have to change anyone...or pull any weeds... just change yourself. The weeds in your world will bloom into those glorious flowers... or whatever else it is that you prefer they change into. There is only your world to tend. I mean this literally. |
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Chuck User ID: 30723337 United States 02/23/2013 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So how much has this esoteric nonsence actually saved a life? You may get a warm, fuzzy feeling about donating used underwear and bras that can fit a heffer. But have you actually made a differnce in a life or someone? Frack, when I was going to University, a lady asked me...I see you with your books every morning ( I worked at a convenience store at the time), and she stated "I am old ( she was, about 35 at the time) and said she always wanted to go to University. We chatted for thirty minutes (at 6 am) told her do not be afraid, U Of L is a big campus, everyone hides the map of the campus...etc. Suffice is to say, she say me several years later, stated she took my advice...and her life is totally changed.... I paid nothing for a cheap esoteric book, just told her from my heart. |
Chuck User ID: 30723337 United States 02/23/2013 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When it come down to it, I am surrounded by Stellar Jays, red header wood peckers, squirrels, skunks, etc. and i have their own little box where they get their food. Winter can be harsh up here. But the trees are full of the little critters waiting for breakfast, lunch, supper... and the human critters at the freeway off ramps, my left over lunch is boxed up and gieven to them...evan a small amount of food make them happy |
Rising Son (OP) User ID: 19853124 United States 02/23/2013 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I grew up poor in the South. You shall not know what other terms I wish to use...sugarplum... "Be still, and know that I am God." Psalm 46:10 Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Chuck User ID: 30723337 United States 02/23/2013 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I grew up poor in the South. You shall not know what other terms I wish to use...sugarplum... You have a problem douchebag? Those who claim to help the poor have never ever experienced it themselves. I spent nearly a year of my life is some of the poorest areas of Mexico, bringing shoes, clothes, toothbrushes...what have you done? Explain? |
shadasonic User ID: 34416224 United States 02/23/2013 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | instead of worrying about future problems that haven't even occurred yet or regretting past mistakes we cannot change Quoting: Goofy for God Matthew 6:34 therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. That is so true - it really comes down to mindfulness, living in the present time, and being engaged with those around you. Yes it does my friend. It takes faith, and love to life this life on this planet as a foreigner. Much peace and love to all! “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
Chuck User ID: 30723337 United States 02/23/2013 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Once one has a meal on tortillas and tomato paste, and that was a meal...Makes me ashamed of going to bed with 3 meals a day. And I have 2 godchildren in Mexico...pay for the cumpleanos, the quecineras, los libros, and zapaotos...I can give up fast food everyday and give them double what it would cost...what have you done lately. Chijon? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34856130 Turkey 02/23/2013 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't buy cheap shit and I do give to those in need. It is a universal law that whenever there is a void, it gets filled up. You should read The Dynamic Laws of Prosperity by Catherine Ponder before making any more snarky condescending remarks. U only get what you give sugarplum. Forgo the 10$ steak and by a 5$ one...Five dollars to give What makes you think it goes to charity? Do you think people will be honest as you and not spend the money themselves without giving them to those in need? If it's just for the sake of helping and makes you happy then it's your character and nothing more. The "you get what you give" mantra is right but it differs in different examples. For example some take advantage on other peoples' weakness and still get what they want. They may pay for their bad doings but remember bad things happen to all of us. There is no justice or karma on that matter. |
shadasonic User ID: 34416224 United States 02/23/2013 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't buy cheap shit and I do give to those in need. It is a universal law that whenever there is a void, it gets filled up. You should read The Dynamic Laws of Prosperity by Catherine Ponder before making any more snarky condescending remarks. U only get what you give sugarplum. Forgo the 10$ steak and by a 5$ one...Five dollars to give Well not even two pages in and the thread derailers already are here, sad Stop, gather yourselves and realize how you two sound. This thread isn't about a personal opinion war, its about learning to live with each other through nature and balance. We have no control over each other,our goal is to guide our own spirits to the next adventure. Take a deep breath and decide to live again- well said OP! Last Edited by Thinking out loud on 02/23/2013 10:33 PM “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
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Chuck User ID: 30723337 United States 02/23/2013 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Myself, when someone is out side of a food joint and they ask for money. I say "how bought I buy you a meal?" $5 bucks is nothing to me. My payback is a smile and a meaningful THANK YOU. Or seeing beggars outside a store. I buy them food, have a separate bag, and say. " I hope you have a full belly for a day" Better than giving cash...I even buy a cheap can opener for cans of meat! Geez, i grew up hungry...I will never forget that |
SnowLeopard User ID: 34971183 Canada 02/23/2013 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well not even two pages in and the thread derailers already are here, sad Quoting: shadasonic Stop, gather yourselves and realize how you two sound. This thread isn't about a personal opinion war, its about learning to live with each other through nature and balance. We have no control over each other,our goal is to guide our own spirits to the next adventure. Take a deep breath and decide to live again- well said OP! It wasn't my intention to derail the thread and I do apologize. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34793599 Romania 02/23/2013 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree!!!! Very well said OP. Thank you. Quoting: Asyouprefer I love the simplicity of the tasks that are involved in gardening... even just turning over the earth in a new garden bed is pleasurable in it's own way. I've always thought there is something spiritual about gardening - almost like the task of working the earth, planting the seed, and then nurturing it is a microcosm of what God does with us. Thank you :-) That's so true, but we have also to uproot the weeds. Looks like most of us are doing nothing about that. Yes, that's a good point. However, this is where the literal and figurative part ways. To weed a garden, you simply pull out the weed and discard it. To uproot a human weed, you must change the person from a weed to something of substance. So the question becomes what is the best way to change the people who are the weeds of our society? I would say to lead by example - show the weeds how much greener the grass is on the other side of the fence of morality, and convince them to change their ways. Just thinking out loud... People are looking for fun these days, not for values. The essence of evil rests in its meaninglessness and fun is meaningless. Why is being evil so fun? I mean we are all human beings, with traits of both good and evil. How come it's fun to be evil sometimes? How come we laugh at people less fortunate? How come we laugh at people who have little or no physical beauty? How come we laugh at the handicapped? How come we laugh at others who are in a bad predicament in life? Where does the joy come from? Is it just that people have such low self-esteems of themselves that they have to laugh at others to raise them? [link to answers.yahoo.com] |
christian Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States 02/23/2013 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOD made us to Work the Earth That means: Tilling the soil Planting Growing our Food Preparing our food Spending time with GOD, Family, Friends. Trees and Plants Caring for Animals from Livestock to Domestic Building our homes Creating a Family Husband, Wife, Children Teaching children After a hard day's work, enjoying the fruits of your labor Thanking GOD.. Sitting on your Front Porch on your Piece of Land watching the Sun go down and knowing you are a Child of the Most High GOD... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
Rising Son (OP) User ID: 19853124 United States 02/23/2013 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Rising Son I've always thought there is something spiritual about gardening - almost like the task of working the earth, planting the seed, and then nurturing it is a microcosm of what God does with us. Thank you :-) That's so true, but we have also to uproot the weeds. Looks like most of us are doing nothing about that. Yes, that's a good point. However, this is where the literal and figurative part ways. To weed a garden, you simply pull out the weed and discard it. To uproot a human weed, you must change the person from a weed to something of substance. So the question becomes what is the best way to change the people who are the weeds of our society? I would say to lead by example - show the weeds how much greener the grass is on the other side of the fence of morality, and convince them to change their ways. Just thinking out loud... I am enjoying this discussion, and the tangents it has branched off to. Everyone is a beautiful flower, but some just don't know it... yet. You don't have to change anyone...or pull any weeds... just change yourself. The weeds in your world will bloom into those glorious flowers... or whatever else it is that you prefer they change into. There is only your world to tend. I mean this literally. Thank you for contributing :-) I never meant that we should try to change anyone else, but that our examples would inspire them to change themselves. "Be still, and know that I am God." Psalm 46:10 Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |