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Eve was deceived, Adam knew better... after 6,000 years have we only gone from dumb to dumber?

 
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It is my observation about Eve and the garden that Adam DID NOT have to take a bite of that apple, as he KNEW the consequences of that action.

YET HE DID ! Ever think about that all you women ? He could have said " Sorry you make a big mistake, but NOT ME ! Bet God makes me another one of you, if I can spare another rib."

He stayed loyal to woman kind, even knowing the price he/we had to pay.

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It is my observation about Eve and the garden that Adam DID NOT have to take a bite of that apple, as he KNEW the consequences of that action.

YET HE DID ! Ever think about that all you women ? He could have said " Sorry you make a big mistake, but NOT ME ! Bet God makes me another one of you, if I can spare another rib."

He stayed loyal to woman kind, even knowing the price he/we had to pay.

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bottom line for both Adam and Eve


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Re: Eve was deceived, Adam knew better... after 6,000 years have we only gone from dumb to dumber?
The adam&eve story is an ancient myth adapted from older religions like sumerian beliefs. Even christians admit it is allegorical and not factual.

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It is my observation about Eve and the garden that Adam DID NOT have to take a bite of that apple, as he KNEW the consequences of that action.

YET HE DID ! Ever think about that all you women ? He could have said " Sorry you make a big mistake, but NOT ME ! Bet God makes me another one of you, if I can spare another rib."

He stayed loyal to woman kind, even knowing the price he/we had to pay.

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and so..... Eve went dumb and Adam went even dumber. 6,000 years into Satan's reign of terror we stand ready to push the button into total extermination. Is there a solution?

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Perhaps you have a child like understanding of the world and using imagination to understand fairytales.
Beware the self deceiver within, the one that protects your ego and shields you from truths or facts or opinions different to those you hold.
Neural bindings may be too strong to overcome after years of false belief and faulty logic.

All the best.
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Hey thanks for saving me. From here, we can conquer ignorance and evil, even the devil TOGETHER!
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Whatever you say judas goat ;)
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one day after the 12 disciples got done shagging the daylights out of jesus, they all went to town to get drunk and have some mcdonalds. jesus was once again all alone with a sore ass. the end
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Perhaps you have a child like understanding of the world and using imagination to understand fairytales.
Beware the self deceiver within, the one that protects your ego and shields you from truths or facts or opinions different to those you hold.
Neural bindings may be too strong to overcome after years of false belief and faulty logic.

All the best.
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Hey thanks for saving me. From here, we can conquer ignorance and evil, even the devil TOGETHER!
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Whatever you say judas goat ;)
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WHOA.... you smacking down a ninny ninny on me!? Well here's what ya get back!

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Gawd you religitards are so up on yourselves, you talk about what supposedly took happened with the supposed Adam and Eve as if you were there.
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Gawd you religitards are so up on yourselves, you talk about what supposedly took happened with the supposed Adam and Eve as if you were there.
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Didn't need to be there, I'm here now and this is what squandering our chance to make earthly paradise resulted in;
"But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, self-assuming, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3 having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4 betrayers, headstrong, puffed up [with pride], lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power; and from these turn away. 6 For from these arise those men who slyly work their way into households and lead as their captives weak women loaded down with sins, led by various desires, 7 always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth." 2Ti3
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You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe.

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Satan was cursed.

Eve was cursed.

The ground was cursed because Adam listened to his wife.

Adam....man....was never cursed.

Read people. We MEN are not cursed.

Deal with the curses around us and we will prevail.
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Gotta do this . . . . bsflag
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You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe.

LOL
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 always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth." 2Ti3:1
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You just described Jehovah's Witnesses in a nutshell.
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Perhaps Eve was only deceived because Adam was not by her side as he should have been.
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Adam was busy at work naming the animals when that whore eve went tasted the forbidden fruit of the "snake"

Just like any other typical slut... Man is out working his fingers to the bone providing for her for cheating ass... she's out back playing with a snake...

First woman on Earth... and first woman to have an affair... go figure...

Eve was a Bitch.
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But seriously folks...

Haven't you ever considered that there MAY be some reading-between-the-lines going on in the First 4 Chapters of Our Sacred Code Book?

I thought this thread was going to unmask what REALLY happens in between the words on the page. I don't care what you believe. I only ask you to the actual STORY.

My point is, look how wonderful things appear in the last line of Chapter2:

"And they were naked (sounds good), the man and his wife (ok), and were not ashamed (huh?, why add that?)"

THEN!!, the verrry next line:

"NOW the serpent was the most subtle beast of the field..."

Hey! Who's this new character you're introducing out of nowhere? And his name is serpent (which is the same word, nahash, for SORCERER).

And then he uses smoove talkin' to seduce the lady...


Anyhow, YEA!, where's Adam?

And, if he knows better, why does he too eat?

AAAND!! It doesn't say 'apple' ANYWHERE!

So, as an objective outsiders looking at this for the first time, I HAVE to ask for more info. I mean REALLY! I'm totally caught up in the drama, but WHAT is REALLY going on here in this figuro-literal narrative?

WHAT is this FRUIT? ("What's in the boooox???")




Can I just offer to everyone that this book you speak of is describing something that, apparently, no one even has thought deeply about what, IN ADULT LANGUAGE, is going on here in the Extreme Poetic?

WHAT is the 'Tree of Life'?

Why are there TWO babies born later?







I like to look at the First 4 Chapters as The Perfect Giallo, an Agatha Christie murder mystery of cosmic proportions. If you simply play the game of the book by its own rules, and interpret it according to its own logic (regardless of anyone's belief system,... JUST the text alone), then, the conclusions one comes to about this incident are CERTAINLY NOT appropriate for sunday school children's ears.


Somebody tell me what happened when Ham 'saw the nakedness of his father' (Noah). Everyone reveals themselves by the answer they give.
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 always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth." 2Ti3:1
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You just described Jehovah's Witnesses in a nutshell.
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Tell me about yourself.
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 always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth." 2Ti3:1
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You just described Jehovah's Witnesses in a nutshell.
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Indeed.
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 always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth." 2Ti3:1
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You just described Jehovah's Witnesses in a nutshell.
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Indeed.
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Sounds vague, can the two of you be more specific.
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 always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth." 2Ti3:1
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You just described Jehovah's Witnesses in a nutshell.
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Indeed.
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Sounds vague, can the two of you be more specific.
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Both my parents were JWs.

And you've been a JW for how long? And you haven't bothered to research into the history or teaching of the organisation?
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Perhaps Eve was only deceived because Adam was not by her side as he should have been.
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Adam was busy at work naming the animals when that whore eve went tasted the forbidden fruit of the "snake"

Just like any other typical slut... Man is out working his fingers to the bone providing for her for cheating ass... she's out back playing with a snake...

First woman on Earth... and first woman to have an affair... go figure...

Eve was a Bitch.
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


Interesting perspective.

:hmmm:
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Lol, I bag to differ, any how, maybe the bitch comes back and wipes out what others claim she started, there's another thought

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Dumbed down once with the flood, again at Babel. The future doesn't look too bright either.

2Th:2:11:
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion,
that they should believe a lie:

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Dumbed down once with the flood, again at Babel. The future doesn't look too bright either.
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The ultimate "dumbing down" comes as a result of religion.
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Dumbed down once with the flood, again at Babel. The future doesn't look too bright either.
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The ultimate "dumbing down" comes as a result of religion.
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What Religious Guru told you that?
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You just described Jehovah's Witnesses in a nutshell.
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Indeed.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


Sounds vague, can the two of you be more specific.
 Quoting: DGN


Both my parents were JWs.

And you've been a JW for how long? And you haven't bothered to research into the history or teaching of the organisation?
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


Thank you confiding with me, many parents would take it all over with temperance and art of teaching if only we could.
Aside from your parents and all that.... and I know about anxious expectations ... and flying machines and pieces on the ground, and good intentions and high hopes.... (are you with me)? there is only one way anyone of us can individually/collectively defeat Satan's reign of terror;
"10 Finally, go on acquiring power in [the] Lord and in the mightiness of his strength. 11 Put on the complete suit of armor from God that YOU may be able to stand firm against the machinations of the Devil; 12 because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places. 13 On this account take up the complete suit of armor from God, that YOU may be able to resist in the wicked day and, after YOU have done all things thoroughly, to stand firm.
14 Stand firm, therefore, with YOUR loins girded about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and with YOUR feet shod with the equipment of the good news of peace. 16 Above all things, take up the large shield of faith, with which YOU will be able to quench all the wicked one’s burning missiles. 17 Also, accept the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the spirit, that is, God’s word, 18 while with every form of prayer and supplication YOU carry on prayer on every occasion in spirit." Eph6:10
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You just described Jehovah's Witnesses in a nutshell.
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Indeed.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


Sounds vague, can the two of you be more specific.
 Quoting: DGN


Both my parents were JWs.

And you've been a JW for how long? And you haven't bothered to research into the history or teaching of the organisation?
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


I share knowledge of the present and future;
"After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands. 10 And they keep on crying with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation [we owe] to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb.”
... “These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation,
.... and the One seated on the throne will spread his tent over them. 16 They will hunger no more nor thirst anymore, neither will the sun beat down upon them nor any scorching heat, 17 because the Lamb, who is in the midst of the throne, will shepherd them, and will guide them to fountains of waters of life. And God will wipe out every tear from their eyes.”
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Dumbed down once with the flood, again at Babel. The future doesn't look too bright either.

2Th:2:11:
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion,
that they should believe a lie:
 Quoting: MHz


" And I saw the heaven opened, and, look! a white horse. And the one seated upon it is called Faithful and True, and he judges and carries on war in righteousness. 12 His eyes are a fiery flame, and upon his head are many diadems. He has a name written that no one knows but he himself, 13 and he is arrayed with an outer garment sprinkled with blood, and the name he is called is The Word of God. 14 Also, the armies that were in heaven were following him on white horses, and they were clothed in white, clean, fine linen. 15 And out of his mouth there protrudes a sharp long sword, that he may strike the nations with it, and he will shepherd them with a rod of iron. He treads too the winepress of the anger of the wrath of God the Almighty. 16 And upon his outer garment, even upon his thigh, he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.
17 I saw also an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice and said to all the birds that fly in midheaven: “Come here, be gathered together to the great evening meal of God, 18 that YOU may eat the fleshy parts of kings and the fleshy parts of military commanders and the fleshy parts of strong men and the fleshy parts of horses and of those seated upon them, and the fleshy parts of all, of freemen as well as of slaves and of small ones and great.”
19 And I saw the wild beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage the war with the one seated on the horse and with his army. 20 And the wild beast was caught, and along with it the false prophet that performed in front of it the signs with which he misled those who received the mark of the wild beast and those who render worship to its image. While still alive, they both were hurled into the fiery lake that burns with sulphur. 21 But the rest were killed off with the long sword of the one seated on the horse, which [sword] proceeded out of his mouth. And all the birds were filled from the fleshy parts of them." Rv19:17
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Dumbed down once with the flood, again at Babel. The future doesn't look too bright either.
 Quoting: MHz


The ultimate "dumbing down" comes as a result of religion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35074854

What Religious Guru told you that?
 Quoting: MHz

"She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, and she has become a dwelling place of demons and a lurking place of every unclean exhalation and a lurking place of every unclean and hated bird! 3 For because of the wine of the anger of her fornication all the nations have fallen [victim], and the kings of the earth committed fornication with her, and the traveling merchants of the earth became rich due to the power of her shameless luxury.”
4 And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. 6 Render to her even as she herself rendered, and do to her twice as much, yes, twice the number of the things she did; in the cup in which she put a mixture put twice as much of the mixture for her. 7 To the extent that she glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury, to that extent give her torment and mourning. For in her heart she keeps saying, ‘I sit a queen, and I am no widow, and I shall never see mourning.’ 8 That is why in one day her plagues will come, death and mourning and famine, and she will be completely burned with fire, because Jehovah God, who judged her, is strong." Rv18:2
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 always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth." 2Ti3:1
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You just described Jehovah's Witnesses in a nutshell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10164827


Indeed.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


Sounds vague, can the two of you be more specific.
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Of course.

I know that as a JW you are not allowed to read anything that is critical of the organisation.

But God's Word tells you to Test the Spirits (doctrines). He tells you that for a reason. So that you will not be misled, to your own hurt.

Don't be afraid to watch the video below. It is not even such an illuminating video, there must be loads out there which give even clearer examples of what's wrong with JW teaching. You will not be disobeying God by watching it. Indeed, you will be 'Testing the spirits'...which you are commanded to.


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You just described Jehovah's Witnesses in a nutshell.
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Indeed.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


Sounds vague, can the two of you be more specific.
 Quoting: DGN


Of course.

I know that as a JW you are not allowed to read anything that is critical of the organisation.

But God's Word tells you to Test the Spirits (doctrines). He tells you that for a reason. So that you will not be misled, to your own hurt.

Don't be afraid to watch the video below. It is not even such an illuminating video, there must be loads out there which give even clearer examples of what's wrong with JW teaching. You will not be disobeying God by watching it. Indeed, you will be 'Testing the spirits'...which you are commanded to.


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I've been disfellowshiped myself, TWICE, but I'm no crybaby sissy, it was entirely my own fault, reaped what sowed. Meanwhile;

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You just described Jehovah's Witnesses in a nutshell.
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Indeed.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


Sounds vague, can the two of you be more specific.
 Quoting: DGN


Of course.

I know that as a JW you are not allowed to read anything that is critical of the organisation.

But God's Word tells you to Test the Spirits (doctrines). He tells you that for a reason. So that you will not be misled, to your own hurt.

Don't be afraid to watch the video below. It is not even such an illuminating video, there must be loads out there which give even clearer examples of what's wrong with JW teaching. You will not be disobeying God by watching it. Indeed, you will be 'Testing the spirits'...which you are commanded to.


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and have YOU been misled? What have you found to share with us that is better?

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