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NURSES REFUSING THE FLU SHOT - WHY? And Why Are They Being Fired From Their Jobs? | |
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calin  User ID: 14023715 United States02/23/2013 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Woo hoo! Excellent!!!! Thank you OP for sharing that. 5 stars .............................. When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself. .................................. THE SECOND AGREEMENT: "Don't take anything personally. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won't be the victim of needless suffering." ~ Don Miguel Ruiz, The Four Agreements |
| calin User ID: 14023715 United States02/23/2013 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I suggested a pin, as I don't know how to pin it myself! .............................. When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself. .................................. THE SECOND AGREEMENT: "Don't take anything personally. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won't be the victim of needless suffering." ~ Don Miguel Ruiz, The Four Agreements |
| calin User ID: 14023715 United States02/23/2013 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  .............................. When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself. .................................. THE SECOND AGREEMENT: "Don't take anything personally. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won't be the victim of needless suffering." ~ Don Miguel Ruiz, The Four Agreements |
| calin User ID: 14023715 United States02/23/2013 10:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  .............................. When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself. .................................. THE SECOND AGREEMENT: "Don't take anything personally. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won't be the victim of needless suffering." ~ Don Miguel Ruiz, The Four Agreements |
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| mopar28m User ID: 14265444 United States02/23/2013 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's all about money. The more staff that has the flu shot the higher the reimbursement from Medicare to the hospital. vaccinefreehealth blogspot com The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child. facebook.com/graphixyourway |
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| mopar28m User ID: 14265444 United States02/23/2013 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would Obamacare have anything to do with implementing this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32527598 Don't tell me that, huh? With Obamacare, you have to be up to date on your shots in order to get medical care. vaccinefreehealth blogspot com The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child. facebook.com/graphixyourway |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 32527598 Canada02/23/2013 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would Obamacare have anything to do with implementing this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32527598 Don't tell me that, huh? With Obamacare, you have to be up to date on your shots in order to get medical care. Right - take your dog to the vet and they will ask the same thing. Is he up to date on his shots? We just happen to have that hypodermic ready. (Guess what - I don't take my pets to the vet since the last dog got cancer just months after the jab... in exactly the same place on his neck.) |
| mopar28m User ID: 14265444 United States02/23/2013 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With Obamacare, you have to be up to date on your shots in order to get medical care. Right - take your dog to the vet and they will ask the same thing. Is he up to date on his shots? We just happen to have that hypodermic ready. (Guess what - I don't take my pets to the vet since the last dog got cancer just months after the jab... in exactly the same place on his neck.) I have a holistic vet, he doesn't care. My beagle & my grandmothers boston terrier are up to date on their rabies but that is it. My last beagle was up to date on everything and she had skin tumors all over her, totally gray & an incurable skin condition by the time she turned 8. She died when she was 10 1/2 years old. Years before she should have. Animal vaccines are just as toxic as childhood vaccines. vaccinefreehealth blogspot com The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child. facebook.com/graphixyourway |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 32527598 Canada02/23/2013 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With Obamacare, you have to be up to date on your shots in order to get medical care. Right - take your dog to the vet and they will ask the same thing. Is he up to date on his shots? We just happen to have that hypodermic ready. (Guess what - I don't take my pets to the vet since the last dog got cancer just months after the jab... in exactly the same place on his neck.) I have a holistic vet, he doesn't care. My beagle & my grandmothers boston terrier are up to date on their rabies but that is it. My last beagle was up to date on everything and she had skin tumors all over her, totally gray & an incurable skin condition by the time she turned 8. She died when she was 10 1/2 years old. Years before she should have. Animal vaccines are just as toxic as childhood vaccines. Sorry. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35017254 United States02/24/2013 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would Obamacare have anything to do with implementing this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32527598 Don't tell me that, huh? With Obamacare, you have to be up to date on your shots in order to get medical care. Do you have a link for this, or some kind of written verification? I haven't read this or heard this before now. Thanks! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11346300 United States02/24/2013 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey everyone HIGHLY recommendation buy a book " Vaccine Epidemic" FUCKING WORTH IT, i don't know how to explain, i have a book myself and i show it to everybody, EVERYONE IS PISSED. [link to www.vaccineepidemic.com] Reviews In a book bursting with intelligence, Louise Habakus and Mary Holland reframe the entire autism-vaccine debate turning the conversation away from the tired clichés of the past and opening bright new avenues of ideas and thought that delve deep below the surface of pro-this or anti-that. Ever purposeful and in some ways masterful, by reframing the debate, the authors get to the heart of the matter that aims for your head and hits your heart. Ed & Teri Arranga, AutismOne.org Vaccine Epidemic is the latest book on vaccine damaged Americans crying out for help. Authored by eminent lawyers, health care professionals, philosophers, medical science historians, human rights advocates, vaccine affected patients and their closest relatives, it portrays a grim picture of modern medicine and the justice system. It may as well be a cry to God for delivering their fate to corporate greed in complicity with their own government. Not surprisingly, the cry is not without proof. For instance, the most compelling argument against the uselessness of measles vaccine is made from a notoriously high death rate of this disease at nearly four percent in 1900 to virtually zero by 1948, fifteen years before measles vaccine was introduced in 1963. A similar observation applied to the not so deadly infectious diseases including scarlet fever, typhoid, whooping cough and diphtheria. The death rate due to Rubella, Mumps and Chicken Pox was so minute that it did not even make to the epidemiological list. Why then, is the ongoing push for more and more vaccines and boosters especially since their application is increasingly being associated with a concomitant increase in childhood illnesses, including autism, diabetes and various other autoimmune conditions? It is a legitimate question. It is one that should be answered by politicians of all stripes, the medical profession and the justice system to serve the public interest. A must read book. Shiv Chopra, PhD, Author CORRUPT TO THE CORE: Memoirs of Health Canada Whistleblower Habakus and Holland give voice to the often muted side of the vaccine debate. This brilliant and alarming compilation of research and personal stories calls into question the sanctity of our public health agenda; and demands we exercise our intrinsic rights as citizens to continually challenge the science and meaning behind the words - public safety. Mary Coyle, D.I. Hom Vaccine Epidemic is a manifesto of our movement and essential work on human freedoms as we march into this strange future where government and industry have become one and the same. Lou Conte, parent of vaccine-injured triplets Vaccine Epidemic will be hailed as one of the most significant contributions to the swelling vaccine awareness movement. Dissent over compulsory vaccination is as old as the practice itself and the root of opposition has been based, historically, on the violations of human and civil rights which began well before the genocides of WWII. This compilation of narratives, inquiries, and assessments is a must-read for every individual who regards their right to autonomy as paramount in any medical or public health decision. Maureen Drummond, co-founder/co-director, New Jersey Coalition for Vaccination Choice Vaccine Epidemic provides readers with an array of valid well researched perspectives on the vaccine safety and personal choice issue. Whether you are a parent who is pondering making a vaccine decision, a parent of a child who has suffered a vaccine injury or an injured adult, this book provides factual first person accounts from doctors, lawyers, parents scientists, victims, activists and both civilian and enlisted personnel who have experienced serious adverse effects from vaccines. Vaccine Epidemic emphasizes how important it is to seek, preserve and defend our personal rights when it comes to making individual choices about vaccines. Claire Dwoskin, philanthropist and children's health activist Vaccine Epidemic is an essential and critical read that details the complex topic of vaccine injury and personal health rights. Comprised of original essays written by many different authors; the book takes the complicated legal, medical, and scientific issues surrounding this matter and dissects them into easily digestible bite-sized morsels of knowledge. Vaccine Epidemic is a powerful new weapon in the information war that currently surrounds vaccination policy. Rebecca Estepp, Talk About Curing Autism Chapter Coordinator, San Diego |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1468340 United States02/24/2013 12:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a nurse at a hospital. If we did not comply we also would be fired. Actually it was all hospital employees. 2 kitchen workers quit over it. I am furious about this mandating us to get flu shots, they said comply or get fired. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35003952  Germany02/24/2013 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not. If it was, then the vaccines would rot in the stocks, while the pharama-manager and politicans count their money, and the executives wouldn't care about if anybody actually used them. Instead, it is forcefully and aggressively pushed, with political and executive pressure. Strictly monitored. All systematically and with drastic consequences. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35009917 United States02/24/2013 12:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a nurse at a hospital. If we did not comply we also would be fired. Actually it was all hospital employees. 2 kitchen workers quit over it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1468340 I am furious about this mandating us to get flu shots, they said comply or get fired. Do doctors also have to get the shots? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25038606 United States02/24/2013 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a nurse at a hospital. If we did not comply we also would be fired. Actually it was all hospital employees. 2 kitchen workers quit over it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1468340 I am furious about this mandating us to get flu shots, they said comply or get fired. did you actually choose your job over your life? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31197155 United States02/24/2013 12:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To me the decision would be easy, I would take being fired over being given a vaccine any day. Vaccines are not there to protect your health, they are used to destroy your health, it is part of the Eugenics program run by global elites. If you get cancer from a vaccine you can't work anyway, and now your health is destroyed. At least if you have your health, even if they fire you, you at least got something, and a chance to start over. |
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| UseLessRepEATER User ID: 33409700 United States02/24/2013 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With Obamacare, you have to be up to date on your shots in order to get medical care. Right - take your dog to the vet and they will ask the same thing. Is he up to date on his shots? We just happen to have that hypodermic ready. (Guess what - I don't take my pets to the vet since the last dog got cancer just months after the jab... in exactly the same place on his neck.) I have a holistic vet, he doesn't care. My beagle & my grandmothers boston terrier are up to date on their rabies but that is it. My last beagle was up to date on everything and she had skin tumors all over her, totally gray & an incurable skin condition by the time she turned 8. She died when she was 10 1/2 years old. Years before she should have. Animal vaccines are just as toxic as childhood vaccines. Hi Mopar, As you know, we are completely philosophically aligned in terms of vaccines. We are actually in the market for a puppy, but have no idea how to get one that has not had his first shots and been de-wormed. I have specifically searched vaccine-free puppies and have found nothing. Any ideas? Last Edited by UseLessRepEATER on 02/24/2013 12:31 AM Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies..... Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. ~H. L. Mencken~ We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. ~Plato~ When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic. ~Dresden James~ |
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| zacksavage User ID: 30596733 United States02/24/2013 12:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reason they make nurses and health care workers take these shots, is they plan on forcing everyone to take them eventually. If the health care workers have been forced to take it, then they have less reservations about forcibly giving them to others. It's a train of abuse where victims of abuse then become the abusers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31197155 That sounds nasty. Who would enforce such a thing??? Z Free your mind,...your ass will follow. --- parliament funkadelic |
| mopar28m User ID: 14265444 United States02/24/2013 12:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would Obamacare have anything to do with implementing this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32527598 Don't tell me that, huh? With Obamacare, you have to be up to date on your shots in order to get medical care. Do you have a link for this, or some kind of written verification? I haven't read this or heard this before now. Thanks! [link to www.dailypaul.com] vaccinefreehealth blogspot com The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child. facebook.com/graphixyourway |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25038606 United States02/24/2013 12:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a nurse at a hospital. If we did not comply we also would be fired. Actually it was all hospital employees. 2 kitchen workers quit over it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1468340 I am furious about this mandating us to get flu shots, they said comply or get fired. You realize they are going to give you the shot on a yearly basis and every time its like Russian roulette... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20566260 United States02/24/2013 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's all about money. Quoting: mopar28m The more staff that has the flu shot the higher the reimbursement from Medicare to the hospital. This is why: Its because of the governing accredidation and quality control over the hospital, such as jcaho and ncqa, there are others.... Anyway, a hospital, or healthcare provider does not have to seek this accredidation, but if they want to be considered as as a preferred provider for either medicare or medicaid, they have to pass the tests set out by them. ... it is these governing bodies that require employees to get flu shots. If they do not, the hospital can lose accredidation, and lose their status as a preffered provider for medicare/medicaid. Also, the hospitals have to report the employee stats to CMS ..... And they will go online for hospital comparisons. It is a sore subject for the employee, because at what point do they cross the line from patient to employee and back to patient. It goes so much higher then the hospital......goes all the way up the govt chain. |
