NURSES REFUSING THE FLU SHOT - WHY? And Why Are They Being Fired From Their Jobs? | |
mopar28m User ID: 14265444 United States 02/24/2013 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not. If it was, then the vaccines would rot in the stocks, while the pharama-manager and politicans count their money, and the executives wouldn't care about if anybody actually used them. Instead, it is forcefully and aggressively pushed, with political and executive pressure. Strictly monitored. All systematically and with drastic consequences. Vaccine sales are expected to top $39 billion this year. [link to www.thebetterhealthstore.com] Like I said before, its all about money. vaccinefreehealth blogspot com The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child. facebook.com/graphixyourway |
UseLessRepEATER User ID: 33409700 United States 02/24/2013 12:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's all about money. Quoting: mopar28m The more staff that has the flu shot the higher the reimbursement from Medicare to the hospital. Its because of the governing accredidation and quality control over the hospital, such as jcaho and ncqa, there are others.... Anyway, a hospital, or healthcare provider does not have to seek this accredidation, but if they want to be considered as as a preferred provider for either medicare or medicaid, they have to pass the tests set out by them. Anyway, it is these governing bodies that require employees to get flu shots. If they do not, the hospital can lose accredidation, and lose their status as a preffered provider for medicare/medicaid. Very true. There is a larger agenda in play here. My sister works in med. sales and had to get a flu shot last year just to be admitted into her territory hospitals. She knew of the risks; but took the risk to maintain her $$$ job, despite my admonishment. Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies..... Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. ~H. L. Mencken~ We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. ~Plato~ When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic. ~Dresden James~ |
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zacksavage User ID: 30596733 United States 02/24/2013 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I bet Obama's health care will eventually have it so that all patients are required to have ALL vaccinations before any physicians will even look at you!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3064678 Bummer,...guess he is going to create a few out-laws then. Z Free your mind,...your ass will follow. --- parliament funkadelic |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31197155 United States 02/24/2013 12:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I bet Obama's health care will eventually have it so that all patients are required to have ALL vaccinations before any physicians will even look at you!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3064678 All the real physicians are getting out, so I really don't see what difference this makes. Face it, the future is without health care, or at least real health care. It will be a Eugenics operation going forward, much like how the Cancer industry already is. The people giving you "health care" will not be following their conscience and knowledge about treatment, but will be following orders issued on government mandated laptops. They actually are being made to do that now. So I would say, take care of your health, eat right, exercise, and stay away from the health care industry. Conversely, there will be a growing underground of former nurses and doctors providing real health care if they can trust you, if you like your doctor or nurse now, get their card, be nice and make friends with them, later when they are unemployed, you can go to them for treatment under the table. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11346300 United States 02/24/2013 12:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THANKKKKK YOUUUUUU OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11346300 Hey everyone HIGHLY recommendation buy a book " Vaccine Epidemic" FUCKING WORTH IT, i don't know how to explain, i have a book myself and i show it to everybody, EVERYONE IS PISSED. [link to www.vaccineepidemic.com] Reviews In a book bursting with intelligence, Louise Habakus and Mary Holland reframe the entire autism-vaccine debate turning the conversation away from the tired clichés of the past and opening bright new avenues of ideas and thought that delve deep below the surface of pro-this or anti-that. Ever purposeful and in some ways masterful, by reframing the debate, the authors get to the heart of the matter that aims for your head and hits your heart. Ed & Teri Arranga, AutismOne.org Vaccine Epidemic is the latest book on vaccine damaged Americans crying out for help. Authored by eminent lawyers, health care professionals, philosophers, medical science historians, human rights advocates, vaccine affected patients and their closest relatives, it portrays a grim picture of modern medicine and the justice system. It may as well be a cry to God for delivering their fate to corporate greed in complicity with their own government. Not surprisingly, the cry is not without proof. For instance, the most compelling argument against the uselessness of measles vaccine is made from a notoriously high death rate of this disease at nearly four percent in 1900 to virtually zero by 1948, fifteen years before measles vaccine was introduced in 1963. A similar observation applied to the not so deadly infectious diseases including scarlet fever, typhoid, whooping cough and diphtheria. The death rate due to Rubella, Mumps and Chicken Pox was so minute that it did not even make to the epidemiological list. Why then, is the ongoing push for more and more vaccines and boosters especially since their application is increasingly being associated with a concomitant increase in childhood illnesses, including autism, diabetes and various other autoimmune conditions? It is a legitimate question. It is one that should be answered by politicians of all stripes, the medical profession and the justice system to serve the public interest. A must read book. Shiv Chopra, PhD, Author CORRUPT TO THE CORE: Memoirs of Health Canada Whistleblower Habakus and Holland give voice to the often muted side of the vaccine debate. This brilliant and alarming compilation of research and personal stories calls into question the sanctity of our public health agenda; and demands we exercise our intrinsic rights as citizens to continually challenge the science and meaning behind the words - public safety. Mary Coyle, D.I. Hom Vaccine Epidemic is a manifesto of our movement and essential work on human freedoms as we march into this strange future where government and industry have become one and the same. Lou Conte, parent of vaccine-injured triplets Vaccine Epidemic will be hailed as one of the most significant contributions to the swelling vaccine awareness movement. Dissent over compulsory vaccination is as old as the practice itself and the root of opposition has been based, historically, on the violations of human and civil rights which began well before the genocides of WWII. This compilation of narratives, inquiries, and assessments is a must-read for every individual who regards their right to autonomy as paramount in any medical or public health decision. Maureen Drummond, co-founder/co-director, New Jersey Coalition for Vaccination Choice Vaccine Epidemic provides readers with an array of valid well researched perspectives on the vaccine safety and personal choice issue. Whether you are a parent who is pondering making a vaccine decision, a parent of a child who has suffered a vaccine injury or an injured adult, this book provides factual first person accounts from doctors, lawyers, parents scientists, victims, activists and both civilian and enlisted personnel who have experienced serious adverse effects from vaccines. Vaccine Epidemic emphasizes how important it is to seek, preserve and defend our personal rights when it comes to making individual choices about vaccines. Claire Dwoskin, philanthropist and children's health activist Vaccine Epidemic is an essential and critical read that details the complex topic of vaccine injury and personal health rights. Comprised of original essays written by many different authors; the book takes the complicated legal, medical, and scientific issues surrounding this matter and dissects them into easily digestible bite-sized morsels of knowledge. Vaccine Epidemic is a powerful new weapon in the information war that currently surrounds vaccination policy. Rebecca Estepp, Talk About Curing Autism Chapter Coordinator, San Diego |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12914493 Philippines 02/24/2013 12:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reason they make nurses and health care workers take these shots, is they plan on forcing everyone to take them eventually. If the health care workers have been forced to take it, then they have less reservations about forcibly giving them to others. It's a train of abuse where victims of abuse then become the abusers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31197155 That sounds nasty. Who would enforce such a thing??? Z :dubya::hitler: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11346300 United States 02/24/2013 12:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reason they make nurses and health care workers take these shots, is they plan on forcing everyone to take them eventually. If the health care workers have been forced to take it, then they have less reservations about forcibly giving them to others. It's a train of abuse where victims of abuse then become the abusers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31197155 That sounds nasty. Who would enforce such a thing??? Z :dubya::hitler: WE THE PEOPLE VS BIG BROTHER. Who is the large numbers ? |
Blamelag User ID: 23127281 United States 02/24/2013 01:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a male nurse living in Florida, I used to work in a nursing home, and they tried to make me get a flu shot every year, and every year I would tell them I already had it..and they bought it. I haven't had a Flu shot, or the flu in 14 years....yes the last time I had the flu was when the military . forced me to get a flu shot, go figure. I do home healthcare now and so far no one has even asked me about a flu shot, so it's a non issue, like it that way. |
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stillhere User ID: 29204297 United States 02/24/2013 01:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not. If it was, then the vaccines would rot in the stocks, while the pharama-manager and politicans count their money, and the executives wouldn't care about if anybody actually used them. Instead, it is forcefully and aggressively pushed, with political and executive pressure. Strictly monitored. All systematically and with drastic consequences. Excellent point!! Easy to fall for the all about the money thing. "You can bend it and twist it... You can misuse and abuse it... But even God cannot change the Truth.” Michael Levy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25531744 United States 02/24/2013 01:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: mopar28m With Obamacare, you have to be up to date on your shots in order to get medical care. Right - take your dog to the vet and they will ask the same thing. Is he up to date on his shots? We just happen to have that hypodermic ready. (Guess what - I don't take my pets to the vet since the last dog got cancer just months after the jab... in exactly the same place on his neck.) I have a holistic vet, he doesn't care. My beagle & my grandmothers boston terrier are up to date on their rabies but that is it. My last beagle was up to date on everything and she had skin tumors all over her, totally gray & an incurable skin condition by the time she turned 8. She died when she was 10 1/2 years old. Years before she should have. Animal vaccines are just as toxic as childhood vaccines. Hi Mopar, As you know, we are completely philosophically aligned in terms of vaccines. We are actually in the market for a puppy, but have no idea how to get one that has not had his first shots and been de-wormed. I have specifically searched vaccine-free puppies and have found nothing. Any ideas? If you look on craigslist there are PLENTY of puppies that need rescuing that will not have had anything done to them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20566260 United States 02/24/2013 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not. If it was, then the vaccines would rot in the stocks, while the pharama-manager and politicans count their money, and the executives wouldn't care about if anybody actually used them. Instead, it is forcefully and aggressively pushed, with political and executive pressure. Strictly monitored. All systematically and with drastic consequences. Excellent point!! Easy to fall for the all about the money thing. What is bolded is true, I explained the specifics in detail of this earlier in the thread. It has to do with accredidation pure and simple. |
JesseDart User ID: 1596989 United States 02/24/2013 01:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Question for those who are more knowledgeable about HIPAA and immunizations than I am. If a Doctor administers an immunization, then is it protected under your personal medical records from disclosure, versus say the public health department administering it which would allow that information to be disclosed under FERPA? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20566260 United States 02/24/2013 01:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Question for those who are more knowledgeable about HIPAA and immunizations than I am. Quoting: JesseDart If a Doctor administers an immunization, then is it protected under your personal medical records from disclosure, versus say the public health department administering it which would allow that information to be disclosed under FERPA? When a school provides health care to students in the normal course of business, such as through its health clinic, it is also a “health care provider” as defined by HIPAA. If a school also conducts any covered transactions electronically in connection with that health care, it is then a covered entity under HIPAA. As a covered entity, the school must comply with the HIPAA Administrative Simplification Rules for Transactions and Code Sets and Identifiers with respect to its transactions. However, many schools, even those that are HIPAA covered entities, are not required to comply with the HIPAA Privacy Rule because the only health records maintained by the school are “education records” or “treatment records” of eligible students under FERPA, both of which are excluded from coverage under the HIPAA Privacy Rule. See the exception at paragraph (2)(i) and (2)(ii) to what is considered “protected health information” (PHI) at 45 CFR § 160.103. In addition, the exception for records covered by FERPA applies both to the HIPAA Privacy Rule, as well as to the HIPAA Security Rule, because the Security Rule applies to a subset of information covered by the Privacy Rule (i.e., electronic PHI). Information on the HIPAA Privacy Rule is available at: [link to www.hhs.gov] Information on the other HIPAA Administrative Simplification Rules is available at: [link to www.cms.hhs.gov] [link to www.hhs.gov] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20566260 United States 02/24/2013 01:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are doctors also mandated to get shots or only the nurses and hospital staff? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35009917 If they work in the hospital, and the hospital is maintaing accredidation, it is all staff. *Some hospitals put in exceptions about the proximity of patients and percentage of time.... Ie.... An IT person may not be around patients as much.... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12748976 Philippines 02/24/2013 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reason they make nurses and health care workers take these shots, is they plan on forcing everyone to take them eventually. If the health care workers have been forced to take it, then they have less reservations about forcibly giving them to others. It's a train of abuse where victims of abuse then become the abusers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31197155 That sounds nasty. Who would enforce such a thing??? Z :dubya::hitler: WE THE PEOPLE VS BIG BROTHER. Who is the large numbers ? you have a wallet full of their paper money you have blood full of their vaccines you have a gas tank full of thie gas and you have a mind full of their propaganda OWS was by them and for them. All of the protests worldwide are staged, coopted, infiltrated, controlled. Numbers are nothing. These people killed tens of millions of us in the world wars and we believed that we were doing what was right in fighting for them. They fool us all day every day. Oh and you are on their Internet (DARPA invented it and the big telecomms are totally owned by .gov) and this site....well. |
UseLessRepEATER User ID: 33409700 United States 02/24/2013 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seriously misleading video. So when are the following ingredients added: MSG; Polysorbatge 80; Thimerosol; Folrmadehyde; Aluminum; Adjuvants; etc? Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies..... Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. ~H. L. Mencken~ We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. ~Plato~ When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic. ~Dresden James~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35009917 United States 02/24/2013 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are doctors also mandated to get shots or only the nurses and hospital staff? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35009917 If they work in the hospital, and the hospital is maintaing accredidation, it is all staff. *Some hospitals put in exceptions about the proximity of patients and percentage of time.... Ie.... An IT person may not be around patients as much.... Who monitors doctors whether they got their shots? |
Citizenperth User ID: 34925600 Australia 02/24/2013 01:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sounds like 'core competencies' ie: there is a record of mandated courses and 'things' that are recorded into rather large databases (i wrote a WA one), that will skim the State register and flag anyone that is close to three months before a requirement to have the Core competency adhered to in the health system; this included immunizations; there were automated letters sent to staff, and a 3 monthly report presented to heads of departments. Last Edited by CitizenPerth™ on 02/24/2013 01:37 AM It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20566260 United States 02/24/2013 01:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are doctors also mandated to get shots or only the nurses and hospital staff? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35009917 If they work in the hospital, and the hospital is maintaing accredidation, it is all staff. *Some hospitals put in exceptions about the proximity of patients and percentage of time.... Ie.... An IT person may not be around patients as much.... Who monitors doctors whether they got their shots? Each hospital has records, and the compliancy dept usually is the one to oversee this. |
Citizenperth User ID: 34925600 Australia 02/24/2013 01:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sounds like 'core competencies' Quoting: Citizenperth ie: there is a record of mandated courses and 'things' that are recorded into rather large databases (i wrote a WA one), that will skim the State register and flag anyone that is close to three months before a requirement to have the Core competency adhered to in the health system; this included immunizations; there were automated letters sent to staff, and a 3 monthly report presented to heads of departments. Are doctors also mandated to get shots or only the nurses and hospital staff? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35009917 If they work in the hospital, and the hospital is maintaing accredidation, it is all staff. *Some hospitals put in exceptions about the proximity of patients and percentage of time.... Ie.... An IT person may not be around patients as much.... Who monitors doctors whether they got their shots? Each hospital has records, and the compliancy dept usually is the one to oversee this. exactly, we had the state educational facility and the 'quality control unit' in WA.... same thing I guess.... i was the sucker stuck with the writing of the reporting tool (drill down from Gov owned SQL databases, into readable reporting), by dept, staff level etc etc.... Doctors were a bit of a mystery as most recorded their own dates.... Last Edited by CitizenPerth™ on 02/24/2013 01:41 AM It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15740069 United States 02/24/2013 01:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seriously misleading video. So when are the following ingredients added: MSG; Polysorbatge 80; Thimerosol; Folrmadehyde; Aluminum; Adjuvants; etc? During the thorough purification process that ensures the virus is no longer dangerous. *laughing inside* |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35009917 United States 02/24/2013 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are doctors also mandated to get shots or only the nurses and hospital staff? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35009917 If they work in the hospital, and the hospital is maintaing accredidation, it is all staff. *Some hospitals put in exceptions about the proximity of patients and percentage of time.... Ie.... An IT person may not be around patients as much.... Who monitors doctors whether they got their shots? Each hospital has records, and the compliancy dept usually is the one to oversee this. We heard lots of stories of nurses being fired over refusing shots. Did any doctors get fired over refusing shots? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20566260 United States 02/24/2013 01:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sounds like 'core competencies' Quoting: Citizenperth ie: there is a record of mandated courses and 'things' that are recorded into rather large databases (i wrote a WA one), that will skim the State register and flag anyone that is close to three months before a requirement to have the Core competency adhered to in the health system; this included immunizations; there were automated letters sent to staff, and a 3 monthly report presented to heads of departments. ... Quoting: J&V If they work in the hospital, and the hospital is maintaing accredidation, it is all staff. *Some hospitals put in exceptions about the proximity of patients and percentage of time.... Ie.... An IT person may not be around patients as much.... Who monitors doctors whether they got their shots? Each hospital has records, and the compliancy dept usually is the one to oversee this. exactly, we had the state educational facility and the 'quality control unit' in WA.... same thing I guess.... Yes it really is, a lot of work goes into this..... You would not believe.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34980639 United States 02/24/2013 01:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My daughter is applying to a nursing program at a major college and they will not even accept her application if she does not get required shots, one being the flu vaccine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5644784 There's your smoking gun right there. Since "flu strains mutate every year" according to TPTB, then any shot now will be worthless when she tarts to see patients. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20566260 United States 02/24/2013 01:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: J&V If they work in the hospital, and the hospital is maintaing accredidation, it is all staff. *Some hospitals put in exceptions about the proximity of patients and percentage of time.... Ie.... An IT person may not be around patients as much.... Who monitors doctors whether they got their shots? Each hospital has records, and the compliancy dept usually is the one to oversee this. We heard lots of stories of nurses being fired over refusing shots. Did any doctors get fired over refusing shots? Well, that is complicated.... Let me explain a little, A hospital may have direct employed physicians, and they may not. Most providers have their own practices, and they apply for priviledges for the hospital they want to see patients at. There can be fellows or even residents, all who also request priviledges. The hospital may have its own hospitalist group, or there may be hospitalists groups who again, have priviledges. So the answer is, an employed provider would be in trouble yes, and a provider who has priviledges could get them revoked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20566260 United States 02/24/2013 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My daughter is applying to a nursing program at a major college and they will not even accept her application if she does not get required shots, one being the flu vaccine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5644784 There's your smoking gun right there. Since "flu strains mutate every year" according to TPTB, then any shot now will be worthless when she tarts to see patients. They do it annually. |