NURSES REFUSING THE FLU SHOT - WHY? And Why Are They Being Fired From Their Jobs? | |
Citizenperth User ID: 34925600 Australia 02/24/2013 01:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My daughter is applying to a nursing program at a major college and they will not even accept her application if she does not get required shots, one being the flu vaccine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5644784 There's your smoking gun right there. Since "flu strains mutate every year" according to TPTB, then any shot now will be worthless when she tarts to see patients. They do it annually. then you have hep b history of trauma medically complained of depression panic attack seizure once in your life (even concussion after a fall at sport) [et al] ... medical fraternity?.. turn up (unless you're bleeding), and tell them you just don't feel very well, and you're not sure why, but you would come in for a check up to be sure because television says better safe than sorry ;).... if they give you a bullshit diagnosis.. tell them 'thankyou, but i do feel better now, thanks doc'...... Last Edited by CitizenPerth™ on 02/24/2013 01:54 AM It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Ralph--a house dog User ID: 25802009 United States 02/24/2013 01:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: mopar28m With Obamacare, you have to be up to date on your shots in order to get medical care. Right - take your dog to the vet and they will ask the same thing. Is he up to date on his shots? We just happen to have that hypodermic ready. (Guess what - I don't take my pets to the vet since the last dog got cancer just months after the jab... in exactly the same place on his neck.) I have a holistic vet, he doesn't care. My beagle & my grandmothers boston terrier are up to date on their rabies but that is it. My last beagle was up to date on everything and she had skin tumors all over her, totally gray & an incurable skin condition by the time she turned 8. She died when she was 10 1/2 years old. Years before she should have. Animal vaccines are just as toxic as childhood vaccines. Hi Mopar, As you know, we are completely philosophically aligned in terms of vaccines. We are actually in the market for a puppy, but have no idea how to get one that has not had his first shots and been de-wormed. I have specifically searched vaccine-free puppies and have found nothing. Any ideas? Do a search here on GLP; there's been some good threads on vaccine detox. Also use a search engine. I recall some helpful info on naturalnews.com and on Dr. Mercola's site. The effects can be mitigated but I don't know how much. A holistic vet probably has enough patients in the market for 'clean' rabies vaccines with no preservatives to make it worthwhile for a minimum order. It costs more but if you find that you have to get your dog vaccinated for rabies you might consider this. Last Edited by Ralph--a house dog on 02/24/2013 01:55 AM "Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas HIS NAME IS SETH RICH [link to biblicalselfdefense.com] [link to forum.1111ers.blog] Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU. "Who decides?" ---Robert A. Heinlein -'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin [link to www.westcoasttruth.com] The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose. You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35009917 United States 02/24/2013 01:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are there any statistics of less flu cases due to the mandatory flu shots of hospital staff? How do they justify this? The bigger issue seems to be the drug-resistant germs lingering everywhere in hospitals which happened due to antibiotic overuse. Could it be that the flu strains are also going to mutate more and become untreatable due to vaccine overuse? |
UseLessRepEATER Those who know the least obey the best: G.F. User ID: 33409700 United States 02/24/2013 02:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My daughter is applying to a nursing program at a major college and they will not even accept her application if she does not get required shots, one being the flu vaccine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5644784 There's your smoking gun right there. Since "flu strains mutate every year" according to TPTB, then any shot now will be worthless when she tarts to see patients. They do it annually. Probably won't be long until they begin to mandate vaccines for those in my line, whereas now, it is just offered with preference to us willing sheep. Not me. Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies..... Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. ~H. L. Mencken~ We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. ~Plato~ When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic. ~Dresden James~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20566260 United States 02/24/2013 02:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are there any statistics of less flu cases due to the mandatory flu shots of hospital staff? How do they justify this? The bigger issue seems to be the drug-resistant germs lingering everywhere in hospitals which happened due to antibiotic overuse. Could it be that the flu strains are also going to mutate more and become untreatable due to vaccine overuse? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35009917 Good question, it would be hard to get stats, I can try to look, but healthcare is not yet at 100% flu shot, so they dont have a basis yet to compare to. If you look at from a different angle, as a matter of less exposure, the average person in a hospital comes across 50 healthcare workers a day. Any single one of them with symptoms could put the patients life at risk. Info on laws [link to www.fas.org] Some stats in this article: [link to www.scientificamerican.com] Your last questions are great questions too, from what I understand about the flu shot, is it changes yearly, as the strain changes..... From the season before it..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20566260 United States 02/24/2013 02:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My daughter is applying to a nursing program at a major college and they will not even accept her application if she does not get required shots, one being the flu vaccine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5644784 There's your smoking gun right there. Since "flu strains mutate every year" according to TPTB, then any shot now will be worthless when she tarts to see patients. They do it annually. Probably won't be long until they begin to mandate vaccines for those in my line, whereas now, it is just offered with preference to us willing sheep. Not me. Yeah, I am torn on this issue. There is no proof that flushot 100% works, and its relatively new. What if we find out 10 years from now, something is very harmful about it. Its one thing, to do it by choice, but being forced is completely another. On the other hand, if you choose to work in healthcare, you choose to follow the regulations and laws that come with working in healthcare. And if it saves a life, it saves a life. I am really on the fence. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25038606 United States 02/24/2013 02:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34980639 There's your smoking gun right there. Since "flu strains mutate every year" according to TPTB, then any shot now will be worthless when she tarts to see patients. They do it annually. Probably won't be long until they begin to mandate vaccines for those in my line, whereas now, it is just offered with preference to us willing sheep. Not me. Yeah, I am torn on this issue. There is no proof that flushot 100% works, and its relatively new. What if we find out 10 years from now, something is very harmful about it. Its one thing, to do it by choice, but being forced is completely another. On the other hand, if you choose to work in healthcare, you choose to follow the regulations and laws that come with working in healthcare. And if it saves a life, it saves a life. I am really on the fence. do you actually believe its about saving lives? try money, everything is about money.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20566260 United States 02/24/2013 02:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Probably won't be long until they begin to mandate vaccines for those in my line, whereas now, it is just offered with preference to us willing sheep. Not me. Yeah, I am torn on this issue. There is no proof that flushot 100% works, and its relatively new. What if we find out 10 years from now, something is very harmful about it. Its one thing, to do it by choice, but being forced is completely another. On the other hand, if you choose to work in healthcare, you choose to follow the regulations and laws that come with working in healthcare. And if it saves a life, it saves a life. I am really on the fence. do you actually believe its about saving lives? try money, everything is about money.... I already posted the reason why two or three times, it has to do with accredidation... Read the whole thread. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25038606 United States 02/24/2013 02:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: UseLessRepEATER Probably won't be long until they begin to mandate vaccines for those in my line, whereas now, it is just offered with preference to us willing sheep. Not me. Yeah, I am torn on this issue. There is no proof that flushot 100% works, and its relatively new. What if we find out 10 years from now, something is very harmful about it. Its one thing, to do it by choice, but being forced is completely another. On the other hand, if you choose to work in healthcare, you choose to follow the regulations and laws that come with working in healthcare. And if it saves a life, it saves a life. I am really on the fence. do you actually believe its about saving lives? try money, everything is about money.... I already posted the reason why two or three times, it has to do with accredidation... Read the whole thread. you said you're on the fence and if it saves lives it saves lives...end quote |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33353547 United States 02/24/2013 02:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | because they haven't counter-sued the fuck out of hospitals for firing them due to discrimination of natural immunity. I would OWN hospitals and change them all to NUTRITION and RAW ORGANIC gluten-free, cancer-fighting medicinal foods being the majority of care, second being that of emergency medical doctors.!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34267563 United States 02/24/2013 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would Obamacare have anything to do with implementing this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32527598 Don't tell me that, huh? With Obamacare, you have to be up to date on your shots in order to get medical care. Right - take your dog to the vet and they will ask the same thing. Is he up to date on his shots? We just happen to have that hypodermic ready. (Guess what - I don't take my pets to the vet since the last dog got cancer just months after the jab... in exactly the same place on his neck.) My vet always pushes the flu shot for my dog. Really?? I told her that I don't even get the flu shot for myself so why would I want it for my dog. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35022014 United States 02/24/2013 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would Obamacare have anything to do with implementing this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32527598 Don't tell me that, huh? With Obamacare, you have to be up to date on your shots in order to get medical care. Right - take your dog to the vet and they will ask the same thing. Is he up to date on his shots? We just happen to have that hypodermic ready. (Guess what - I don't take my pets to the vet since the last dog got cancer just months after the jab... in exactly the same place on his neck.) FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK! So that's why my dog got cancer?! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33353547 United States 02/24/2013 02:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34980639 There's your smoking gun right there. Since "flu strains mutate every year" according to TPTB, then any shot now will be worthless when she tarts to see patients. They do it annually. Probably won't be long until they begin to mandate vaccines for those in my line, whereas now, it is just offered with preference to us willing sheep. Not me. Yeah, I am torn on this issue. There is no proof that flushot 100% works, and its relatively new. What if we find out 10 years from now, something is very harmful about it. Its one thing, to do it by choice, but being forced is completely another. On the other hand, if you choose to work in healthcare, you choose to follow the regulations and laws that come with working in healthcare. And if it saves a life, it saves a life. I am really on the fence. "And if it saves a life, it saves a life." --- Not one single or combo vaccine has saved anyone's life or health! What's to fence about? Either you're for poisoning people or you're not. No reason for a nurse to take a vaccine to keep her job. Cause if those that DO take vaccines, "should work" how they/re supposed to and not be affected by someone that is non-vaccinated. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25038606 United States 02/24/2013 02:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would Obamacare have anything to do with implementing this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32527598 Don't tell me that, huh? With Obamacare, you have to be up to date on your shots in order to get medical care. Right - take your dog to the vet and they will ask the same thing. Is he up to date on his shots? We just happen to have that hypodermic ready. (Guess what - I don't take my pets to the vet since the last dog got cancer just months after the jab... in exactly the same place on his neck.) FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK! So that's why my dog got cancer?! mercury and living cells don't mix too well.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11346300 United States 02/24/2013 02:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would Obamacare have anything to do with implementing this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32527598 Don't tell me that, huh? With Obamacare, you have to be up to date on your shots in order to get medical care. Right - take your dog to the vet and they will ask the same thing. Is he up to date on his shots? We just happen to have that hypodermic ready. (Guess what - I don't take my pets to the vet since the last dog got cancer just months after the jab... in exactly the same place on his neck.) FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK! So that's why my dog got cancer?! Then you gotta collection all the info, when is the last time you took your dog to vet,and search all the info in the internet about vaccine issues etc! and you will probably has to lawsuit. Its up to you.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33353547 United States 02/24/2013 02:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would Obamacare have anything to do with implementing this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32527598 Don't tell me that, huh? With Obamacare, you have to be up to date on your shots in order to get medical care. Right - take your dog to the vet and they will ask the same thing. Is he up to date on his shots? We just happen to have that hypodermic ready. (Guess what - I don't take my pets to the vet since the last dog got cancer just months after the jab... in exactly the same place on his neck.) FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK! So that's why my dog got cancer?! DUUUH!!!! Why are you people so DUMB and thick that you don't understand this? It's 2013!!!! I've known about vaccines being bad, ever since I received them as a child, that was back in the early 1980s. Where the fuck have you been? Who said that dogs, in history, died for the lack of vaccines? NONE! Which vaccine comes out of a breast? NONE!! Immunization comes FROM breastmilk.. NOT from a vaccine! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33353547 United States 02/24/2013 02:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would Obamacare have anything to do with implementing this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32527598 Don't tell me that, huh? With Obamacare, you have to be up to date on your shots in order to get medical care. Right - take your dog to the vet and they will ask the same thing. Is he up to date on his shots? We just happen to have that hypodermic ready. (Guess what - I don't take my pets to the vet since the last dog got cancer just months after the jab... in exactly the same place on his neck.) My vet always pushes the flu shot for my dog. Really?? I told her that I don't even get the flu shot for myself so why would I want it for my dog. Genius! Thank you for existing! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32003632 United States 02/24/2013 02:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I bet Obama's health care will eventually have it so that all patients are required to have ALL vaccinations before any physicians will even look at you!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3064678 How do we know that there aren't RFID chips in these vaccines? By the way, they're not really vaccines, just look up the original definition of vaccine. Just more illiteracy and diversion. They are poisonous cocktails of darkness. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32003632 United States 02/24/2013 02:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: mopar28m With Obamacare, you have to be up to date on your shots in order to get medical care. Right - take your dog to the vet and they will ask the same thing. Is he up to date on his shots? We just happen to have that hypodermic ready. (Guess what - I don't take my pets to the vet since the last dog got cancer just months after the jab... in exactly the same place on his neck.) My vet always pushes the flu shot for my dog. Really?? I told her that I don't even get the flu shot for myself so why would I want it for my dog. Genius! Thank you for existing! I've never even heard of a dog having the flu, but sure enough if people started getting their dogs shot up with flu shots then you would start hearing of dogs having the flu. These physicians of death are going to burn in hell for their atrocities, no kidding. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25038606 United States 02/24/2013 02:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32527598 Right - take your dog to the vet and they will ask the same thing. Is he up to date on his shots? We just happen to have that hypodermic ready. (Guess what - I don't take my pets to the vet since the last dog got cancer just months after the jab... in exactly the same place on his neck.) My vet always pushes the flu shot for my dog. Really?? I told her that I don't even get the flu shot for myself so why would I want it for my dog. Genius! Thank you for existing! I've never even heard of a dog having the flu, but sure enough if people started getting their dogs shot up with flu shots then you would start hearing of dogs having the flu. These physicians of death are going to burn in hell for their atrocities, no kidding. the ironic part is these physicians feel they are educated on the matter.... |
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UseLessRepEATER Those who know the least obey the best: G.F. User ID: 33409700 United States 02/24/2013 02:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I bet Obama's health care will eventually have it so that all patients are required to have ALL vaccinations before any physicians will even look at you!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3064678 How do we know that there aren't RFID chips in these vaccines? By the way, they're not really vaccines, just look up the original definition of vaccine. Just more illiteracy and diversion. They are poisonous cocktails of darkness. This mirrors my suspicion. ALL VACCINES are poison, even tetanus. Last Edited by UseLessRepEATER on 02/24/2013 02:54 AM Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies..... Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. ~H. L. Mencken~ We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. ~Plato~ When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic. ~Dresden James~ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34267563 United States 02/24/2013 02:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32527598 Right - take your dog to the vet and they will ask the same thing. Is he up to date on his shots? We just happen to have that hypodermic ready. (Guess what - I don't take my pets to the vet since the last dog got cancer just months after the jab... in exactly the same place on his neck.) My vet always pushes the flu shot for my dog. Really?? I told her that I don't even get the flu shot for myself so why would I want it for my dog. Genius! Thank you for existing! I've never even heard of a dog having the flu, but sure enough if people started getting their dogs shot up with flu shots then you would start hearing of dogs having the flu. These physicians of death are going to burn in hell for their atrocities, no kidding. I had never heard of dogs getting the flu either. I was kind of shocked when they asked me a few years ago. I wasn't sure if they were serious or not. When I told them no, they said that dogs can get very sick from it. That made no sense at all to me. I know that Kennel Cough is something you have to watch out for but your dog only needs to be vaccinated for it if they are to be boarded. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32003632 United States 02/24/2013 02:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doctors aren't in the field to make you well. They are in it to make you dependent on drugs. There is no money in permanently curing the ill. Quoting: calx Precisely, and a testimony to their destructive nature is when they go on strike the sickness and death rate declines. I haven't been to a doctor in years and haven't been sick in years. The only "doctor" I see is my chiropractor, but I would have nothing against a naturopathic doctor if I felt I needed one, but they would really have to be educated on how messed up things are around us. |
UseLessRepEATER Those who know the least obey the best: G.F. User ID: 33409700 United States 02/24/2013 02:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34267563 I would apply the common sense approach that: if humans don't need vaccines since the whole scientific arguement is flawed; neither do dogs, cats, or any other domesticated animal. Do domestic birds get vaccines; or wild amimals; or worms; or ants; or gophers; or squirrels; or muscrats; or whales; or fish; or starfish? My vet always pushes the flu shot for my dog. Really?? I told her that I don't even get the flu shot for myself so why would I want it for my dog. Genius! Thank you for existing! I've never even heard of a dog having the flu, but sure enough if people started getting their dogs shot up with flu shots then you would start hearing of dogs having the flu. These physicians of death are going to burn in hell for their atrocities, no kidding. I had never heard of dogs getting the flu either. I was kind of shocked when they asked me a few years ago. I wasn't sure if they were serious or not. When I told them no, they said that dogs can get very sick from it. That made no sense at all to me. I know that Kennel Cough is something you have to watch out for but your dog only needs to be vaccinated for it if they are to be boarded. Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies..... Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. ~H. L. Mencken~ We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. ~Plato~ When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic. ~Dresden James~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32003632 United States 02/24/2013 03:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Children are some of the most innocent forms of life in existence, next to puppies or kittens for example. They can sense evil, and often express more common sense than corrupted adults. I'm talking about very young children, not children old enough to be little bastard ass brats. I ask anyone, have you ever seen a kid who liked taking a shot? Look at the look on child's face when the needle penetrates their flesh. Complete sorrow fills me to think of little ones being messed with the way they are. I remember when I was taken to Kaiser Permanente by my then very ignorant mother to have me shot up with poisons that I believe have adversely affected my health to this day. It took 4 doctors and nurses to hold me down to inject me, and I hope every one of you evil bastards out there who are willing to corrupt little children get what you have coming to you very soon. |
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