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Defence experts: "Japan would easily win war against China"

 
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Re: Defence experts: "Japan would easily win war against China"
China just needs to send endless waves of bodies until the enemy runs out of bullets.
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Great stategy. You must have worked at the Pentagon during the Vietnam conflict.
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It worked with the Soviet Union in Stalingrad. And they didn't even have AKs and body armor.

China could seriously fuck shit up if they level up their navy.
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Right, all China has to do is grow a Navy and all I have to do to be a porn star is grow a 12 inch dick.
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cruise
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Re: Defence experts: "Japan would easily win war against China"
china would wipe japan off the face of the earth without US backing japan is not a nuclear armed nation china is. China has nukes and delivery systems capable of reaching japan on target case closed
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Fuq USA. Got their asses kicked by a third rate power Vietnam.rofl
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they were rice farmers too..

cruise
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china would wipe japan off the face of the earth without US backing japan is not a nuclear armed nation china is. China has nukes and delivery systems capable of reaching japan on target case closed
 Quoting: Desertwolf


Fuq USA. Got their asses kicked by a third rate power Vietnam.rofl
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they were rice farmers too..

cruise
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Vietnam also kicked Chinese ass!
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china would wipe japan off the face of the earth without US backing japan is not a nuclear armed nation china is. China has nukes and delivery systems capable of reaching japan on target case closed
 Quoting: Desertwolf


Fuq China. Got their asses kicked by a third rate power Vietnam.rofl
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having 3 generations of battle hardened veterans doesnt hurt. and they beat the Americans too. So China 0, USA 0, doesnt indicate how Japan would fair against China...

But nobody is going nuclear, it would be surface to surface missiles, sea and air forces battling it out,,, I've seen China's material,, What does Japan have? (besides a bunch of GLP cheer leaders?)
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Re: Defence experts: "Japan would easily win war against China"
you must be joking , china have 140 million soldier , and 50 million Reservists not mention the nuke missiles , japan population is 300 million.
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Ignorant people shouldnt post. Japan < 130 million.
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you must be joking , china have 140 million soldier , and 50 million Reservists not mention the nuke missiles , japan population is 300 million.
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Pfft, the Japs overran the dinks in WW2 and before. Can easily do it again.
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china was a collection of non idustrialised peasant farmer provinces back then.

things are very different now.

just some of their volunteer armies was enough to stop US and nato winning the korean

war. they also chased america out of vietnam .


japan is a little island reliant on imports, which was the root cause of their attempts at regional conquest last century.
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china would wipe japan off the face of the earth without US backing japan is not a nuclear armed nation china is. China has nukes and delivery systems capable of reaching japan on target case closed
 Quoting: Desertwolf


Fuq China. Got their asses kicked by a third rate power Vietnam.rofl
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26533342


having 3 generations of battle hardened veterans doesnt hurt. and they beat the Americans too. So China 0, USA 0, doesnt indicate how Japan would fair against China...

But nobody is going nuclear, it would be surface to surface missiles, sea and air forces battling it out,,, I've seen China's material,, What does Japan have? (besides a bunch of GLP cheer leaders?)
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First use of nukes takes the entire world over a threshold that we really don't want to cross.

damned
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Re: Defence experts: "Japan would easily win war against China"
you must be joking , china have 140 million soldier , and 50 million Reservists not mention the nuke missiles , japan population is 300 million.
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Pfft, the Japs overran the dinks in WW2 and before. Can easily do it again.
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china was a collection of non idustrialised peasant farmer provinces back then.
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Japan didnt overrun China, they controlled key cities. The organized peasants armies kicked them out. It didnt happen over night, but in the end China defeated Japan.
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Re: Defence experts: "Japan would easily win war against China"
china would wipe japan off the face of the earth without US backing japan is not a nuclear armed nation china is. China has nukes and delivery systems capable of reaching japan on target case closed
 Quoting: Desertwolf


Fuq USA. Got their asses kicked by a third rate power Vietnam.rofl
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26533342


they were rice farmers too..

cruise
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Vietnam also kicked Chinese ass!
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actually there is disagreement about exactly who won..

As Dr. Henry Kissinger notes: "Whatever the shortcomings of its execution, the Chinese campaign reflected a serious, long-term strategic analysis."

The Chinese entered northern Vietnam and captured some of the bordering cities. On March 6, 1979, China declared that the gate to Hanoi was open and that their punitive mission had been achieved. Chinese forces retreated back across the Vietnamese border, into China. Both China and Vietnam claimed victory in the last of the Indochina Wars of the 20th century; as Vietnamese troops remained in Cambodia until 1989 it can be said that the PRC failed to achieve the goal of dissuading Vietnam from involvement in Cambodia. However, Moscow surely realized that any attempt at expanding its foothold in SE Asia would have involved risk of military confrontation with China. Following the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the Sino-Vietnamese border was finalized.

China demonstrated to its Cold War adversary, the Soviet Union, that they were unable to protect their new Vietnamese ally. Following worsening relations between the Soviet Union and China as a result of the Sino-Soviet split, as many as 1.5 million Chinese troops were stationed along the Soviet-Chinese border, in preparation for a full-scale war.
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Japan has Gundams, no one can defeat them
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First use of nukes takes the entire world over a threshold that we really don't want to cross.

damned
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You mean as in Syria, Libanon? Iraq? Bali bombing and in Jakarta hotel bombing?

What threshold fo u mean, and when was it passed?

It was passes long time ago, and the gloves are off as i can see it, with the adventure of mininuke, the size of an orange, u can go figure.

Many nations have them.
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Re: Defence experts: "Japan would easily win war against China"
china would wipe japan off the face of the earth without US backing japan is not a nuclear armed nation china is. China has nukes and delivery systems capable of reaching japan on target case closed
 Quoting: Desertwolf


Fuq China. Got their asses kicked by a third rate power Vietnam.rofl
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26533342


having 3 generations of battle hardened veterans doesnt hurt. and they beat the Americans too. So China 0, USA 0, doesnt indicate how Japan would fair against China...

But nobody is going nuclear, it would be surface to surface missiles, sea and air forces battling it out,,, I've seen China's material,, What does Japan have? (besides a bunch of GLP cheer leaders?)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35051383


First use of nukes takes the entire world over a threshold that we really don't want to cross.

damned
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Nukes were already used to end one war in a few days time.
Stop the fear mongering. Nuclear weapons have been exploded many many times already.
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Re: Defence experts: "Japan would easily win war against China"
If Japan were to fight a war against China, the challenge would be for them to turn it into a long term war of attrition. The weakness of the Chinese is the same weakness that did in the Tsarist Army in World War I, the potential for political unrest at home.

Japan, by contrast, would have greater unity and the ability to keep at it longer. If they build a stronger navy and coastal defenses, I think the could become an island the Chinese could not invade, and should China enter into such a war, the political consequences of failing to the People's Republic would be immense.
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Re: Defence experts: "Japan would easily win war against China"
Actully if any of you have ever bothered to read your history you would know that China has always been the dominant power in Asia. Japan beat China once, and that's when it was in turmoil. Japan never beat Chinain WW2, they were still in the fight with China. Not to mention the thing with vVietna, the vVietnamese claim to have won but history would say otherwise. They lost more troops, they lost more ground and they lost more equipment. Advanced technology didn't come from Japan, it came from the west and Japan used it to invade China in wW2. That'show they got the edge. China has always been more advanced than Japan. Their culture and history is just more dominant. The Japanese have an aggressive history, and it's always China that taught Japan to calm down. China in all of it's 6000 years of history has been the world'sddominant power for 500 years, that is the longest out of any country. The Chinesealways win in the end. You can not beat them.
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i agree with the defense expewrt

he probably knows better then white typing board boys


japan, Kamakazi's of Asia - "we have secret nukes, and hate china"
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china would wipe japan off the face of the earth without US backing japan is not a nuclear armed nation china is. China has nukes and delivery systems capable of reaching japan on target case closed
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^^ This^^.
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japandrum I'm inclined to agree.
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Re: Defence experts: "Japan would easily win war against China"
the chink lost against like the mogols
and 4 brits in a boat

the chink can only fight agaqinst other gooks
vs white guys it gets kicked qll over the place qand cries homw to mama san
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Re: Defence experts: "Japan would easily win war against China"
Absolute BS
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Re: Defence experts: "Japan would easily win war against China"
If this is about usa and japan winning against china, then this is reasonable. but if this is about japan alone beating china, then this is nothing more than bullshit.

China has a way bigger army than japan-compares to the usa population. doesnt matter how many casualties inflicted by the japs, they will be overwhelmed.

Don't forget, China can fight alone and beat japan, but japan definitely will outside help to fight china.
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Re: Defence experts: "Japan would easily win war against China"
china would wipe japan off the face of the earth without US backing japan is not a nuclear armed nation china is. China has nukes and delivery systems capable of reaching japan on target case closed
 Quoting: Desertwolf


Japan has plenty of nukes, that was what Fukushima was all about. They imported plutonium from the us, and was refining it at Fukushima, officially its called Mox fuel, but the intention was all about making nukes with it.

China on the other hand, has all of its nukes underground on rails, movable in tunnels, and cant be taken out.

Japan sits basically on a big volcano, and cant tunnel down.

So good luck Japan. we will miss all the Walkmans and televisions.

After scalar EM wave technology, wich happened in the 60's nuclear devices can be ignited in their silos, remotely, so after all, nukes is outdated, and a treath and menace, to their own forces.

And since Russia is the leader in this technology, and since China and Russia has been working together, its more than a small chance that China has this technology.
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this /\

China Stole the plans to the US F-35 with a mole and built there own, this was years ago so imagine how they have improved on it. The Chinese are well versed in the art of war and project weak, This is why Obama gave himself first strike capability and expanded the investment in DUMBs too keep up with the Chinese.

China has 19% of the world population (1.3 billion) and japan 127 million, the chinese could swim to japan and throw rocks and still annihilate japan.
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Re: Defence experts: "Japan would easily win war against China"
Without reading further, "Takashi" sounds a bit Japanese to me, so I would immediately call into question bias. I'm sure if you had a gentleman named Zhang, or the like, he would say China would prevail.
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Re: Defence experts: "Japan would easily win war against China"
The same 'experts' said "Iraq will be a cakewalk".

They also said "Afghanistan would be under US control within 18 months"

That was back in 2003.

They're dumb.
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Re: Defence experts: "Japan would easily win war against China"
Despite huge gains by china the truth is that the US and Japan (and Germany in some fields) still exceed everybody else in the world when it comes to high technology, which is what wins wars these days.
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Despite huge gains by china the truth is that the US and Japan (and Germany in some fields) still exceed everybody else in the world when it comes to high technology, which is what wins wars these days.
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like in Vietnam? or Afganistan?
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Despite huge gains by china the truth is that the US and Japan (and Germany in some fields) still exceed everybody else in the world when it comes to high technology, which is what wins wars these days.
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like in Vietnam? or Afganistan?
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I don't see China waging an effective guerrilla war against Japan in the middle of the fucking ocean.

You cannot compare dissimilar situations. A war between Japan and China will be by sea and air and it'll involve high technology.
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Re: Defence experts: "Japan would easily win war against China"
Nukes are the great equalizer. No one can win an all-out war these days.

Economics, cyber, manipulation, terrorism. That is how the power struggles are fought these days - over tertiary and seemingly unrelated/minor conflicts.
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Wars always start with less or more of the above. Everyone should know that.
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Re: Defence experts: "Japan would easily win war against China"
Sure they could defend against them. China isn't all that tough
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Re: Defence experts: "Japan would easily win war against China"
Japan has godzilla
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Re: Defence experts: "Japan would easily win war against China"
They are literally decades ahead of the US in robot technology so I'd say yes they would crush the world with limits removed.
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Re: Defence experts: "Japan would easily win war against China"
and fukushima is totally a safe place to visit.

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