I asked my Creator WHY he created evil, and he said......

nobody knows because the context is stronger than the concept

That's only what I think and believe, you must make your own mind up based on what makes sense to you and what you feel is true in your heart.

Last Edited by Rising Son on 02/24/2013 02:28 AM

God of the bible did not create moral evil. He has however brought disaster to those who oppose hi. This is what the above quote refers to.

God did not CREATE moral evil. Nor did man.

You have to get the sense of God, for with your common sense, you will end up where all common human wisdom is heading.
Am am not arguing with you, but relaying the judgement. You do not get it, with which I am pleased.
Don't reply, for you are as good as dead anyway.

Then what's left ? If not the Creator, and not God, and not man..... then where did it come from ????? LOL

Asked him myself, and was told the same thing lol.

the fallen.
Ref: Enoch.

That's a good question, OP - evil is evil, whether it's moral evil or purple evil or peanut butter evil...

Thank goodness !!! I feel so much better now. I swear to you... I did NOT just make that up !!!

Thank you.

The "fallen angels" ??? But they are created beings. Did MAN corrupt the angels ?????

Oh my, did someone piss in your cornflakes this morning?

I read the subject and then read the OP's Moniker.
Weird.

Damn !!! That's definitely over my head. Too deep for me to understand.

Can you elaborate please ?

Yeh, but it was you who ate it. That is all to it. Digest.

Weird ? How so ? Not that I mind being "weird"... just curious to know what you mean. LOL

There is nothing in the Genesis that says God created the entire universe. God created the Earth and its inhabitants. Everything he created was Good.

Maybe it wasn't created. It just always was.

I don't know though. Genesis bothers me a lot.

He did Create all that is, which includes the physical Universe too. Yet, one earth He made for Himself, one flower he chosen for Himself, one nation He made for Himself, One Son He Begot.

That's when I started questioning.

God blessed the animals and spoke to them... then he told man to care for them. He told man to eat the grasses, nuts, etc. NOT the animals. He also commanded (in the Ten Commandments) not to KILL. The next thing you know... eat animals, kill them in rituals, and go kill all the men women, children, and animals in that country over there, so you can inhabit it. WTF ?????

I don't know your God. I only know MY CREATOR who is NOT the lord of CONFUSION !!! He is loving and merciful and forgiving.. and he never changes. PERIOD.

the problem that comes with only focusing on the outside is that you can easily fall in to the trap of disinformation. all "they" resonate with is lies because their reading instrument, the self, is not tuned correctly through sincere self work. in other words, one is less likely to see the unseen. the concept of "eviL", just like many things, is envisioned through subjectivity rather than perceived objectively through an instrument(self) that is tuned with the ability to clearly receive. to reach a higher state of objective reality, one must first see themselve clearly.

He told you nothing.

Thank you. I think I understand.

What's a Spain, didn't know the dead could talk.

Basically, all you're saying is that your perception is clearer only through self-reflection and moral inventory.

You're both totally free thinkers !! I love that.

Don't count yourself out! Your inquisitive mind coupled with your humility is truly divine :-)

Hm?..
Morelike 'DIVAN',--sit down and relax. Cool.

LOL LOL LOL !! Thank you very much... but I was born curious and I just HAVE to try and understand.

I realize that once you cross that line between this reality and "the other side" (you can call it death) you will automatically KNOW everything, but I like doing it the "hard" way.... I really enjoy trying to figure things out/trying to understand.

My mother would NOT agree with you... it drove her absolutely crazy. Nope - she didn't consider it DIVINE at all !!! LOL

Really??? Creation is beautiful in every way? You sound like neo-Christian (I might be wrong) who is blinded by the world but most Christians of the past viewed the world very differently than you. They rejected the world, this creation, and all of the material world.

Here's the thing.... the earth was harsh and evil before human beings. All life exists here and the only way to surive is to kill other living things. Every day kittens are eaten, birds ripped apart, baby monekys eaten alive by gorillas, all without humans. Before humans there were dinosaurs and that was the ultimate time for killing machines.

I'm sorry, but this creation you love so much is faulty. It's the spirit that is special, not this shit show of horror.

Well guys... thank you so much for the lively and enlightening conversation !! I hope we can do it again some time. LOL

It's WAY past my bedtime, so I'm leaving for now.

I honestly enjoyed this thread. You're ALL wonderful !!!!

Good Night.