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EGGS-Raw VERSUS Cooked: FINALLY THE FACTS

 
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EGGS-Raw VERSUS Cooked: FINALLY THE FACTS
As a PT and a bit of of health fanatic I've searched long and hard about eating eggs, raw versus cooked.
Yep I've been guilty of downing a few raw eggs in a post workout shake as I followed the elites in their routines.

I did a quick search here and the basics were mentioned briefly but even with that knowledge I had, I still walked away a little confused.


Protein Absorption & Eggs:

Some older athletic diets used to propose eating just raw eggs. I now know this is a foolish attempt at taking in additional protein.
Eating raw eggs (or raw egg whites) will only result in about 50% absorption of the available protein.
That means if you eat enough raw eggs to give you 40 grams of protein, your body will only absorb apprx 20 grams.

Eating just raw egg whites results in the same (or worse).

Egg whites have a huge amount of a substanc called 'avidin' which loves biotin.
As a matter of fact, once the avidin-biotin forms a bond, the body can't break it apart. So you could develop a partial or full Biotin Deficiency Syndrome.
Cooking your eggs (or egg whites) will quickly denature the protein avidin and will allow you to absorb 98% of the protein.

In short, always cook your eggs.


Biotin Deficiency

The formation of a biotin deficiency from raw eggs has been recognized in science as far back as 1926.
Rats were given raw egg whites and developed the syndrome of hair loss, loss of muscle coordination, severe dermatitis, exhaustion, muscle pain and dry hair or eyes.

The raw eggs contain the glycoprotein avidin, which breaks down very quickly when cooked. This avidin chemical has huge interest in the amino acid biotin and bonds to it immediately.
Many foods contain biotin and there are normal bacteria in the intestines that produce biotin.

The long term use of anti biotics make the athlete further susceptible to biotin deficiencies, due to the destruction of the bacteria in the intestinal tract.


What Does Biotin Do?

Biotin ( a water soluble B-class vitamin) helps utilize other B's, aids the Krebs Cycle (energy) in the synthesis of fats and proteins and also helps in cell reproduction (growth)


I'm aware that Mercola and the like recommend raw egg intake but hopefully this has shed a bit of light into why this may not be the best solution.
Please use this information to continue further research for your self.
hf

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Interesting.
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Interesting.
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Shanks :-)
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Eggxcellent thread.
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Eggxcellent thread.
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Yes, I was egg-cited to share it with you too :-)
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Have you ever dried egg whites and snorted them? Does it get you high? You know you can make drugs out of egg whites?
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it's not a yoke , it's serious 1rof1
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Have you ever dried egg whites and snorted them? Does it get you high? You know you can make drugs out of egg whites?
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Really? Surely not :-)
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Have you ever dried egg whites and snorted them? Does it get you high? You know you can make drugs out of egg whites?
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Really? Surely not :-)
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They high in tryptophan you can concentrate it and change it to other things lmao
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Have you ever dried egg whites and snorted them? Does it get you high? You know you can make drugs out of egg whites?
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Really? Surely not :-)
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They high in tryptophan you can concentrate it and change it to other things lmao
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Well there you go. My egg research continues :-)
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[link to en.wikipedia.org] cruise
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Thanks for the info.
Love your avatar! (spent the last 3 minutes just gazing at it! Lol)
cheers
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The by far easiest method to synthesize tryptamine is the decarboxylation of the amino acid tryptophan.

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Thanks for the info.
Love your avatar! (spent the last 3 minutes just gazing at it! Lol)
cheers
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I lift, I love eggs, I always cook them. Nice post.
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Egg-cellent!

I love omelettes.
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Good thread. I'm about to make my morning "womlette". I've been making scrambled eggs in my waffle maker, they're eggcellent.
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Good thread. I'm about to make my morning "womlette". I've been making scrambled eggs in my waffle maker, they're eggcellent.
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That's eggzactly what I feel like too ;-)
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Good thread. I'm about to make my morning "womlette". I've been making scrambled eggs in my waffle maker, they're eggcellent.
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That's eggzactly what I feel like too ;-)
 Quoting: trailingedge


For anyone who wants to try the womlette method:

Whisk eggs in a bowl, pour into hot waffle maker, add bacon, ham or whatever. Don't add the cheese though, it will make a mess in the waffle iron. I put cheese on top after the womlette is finished and melt it in the micro. I also occasionally make waffles in the thing :)
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I watched this and became a vegan.

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Here is a shorter one...

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Awww... :(

This post certainly hasn't cheered me up this morning. Been drinking 2 raw, fresh eggs (free range, from the farmers' market) right out of the shell every morning since I was about six. I don't do weights or diets, juice every morning, eat a bit of everything, am slim, healthy and, aside from a few pesky, stubborn grey hairs, have no complaints
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Awww... :(

This post certainly hasn't cheered me up this morning. Been drinking 2 raw, fresh eggs (free range, from the farmers' market) right out of the shell every morning since I was about six. I don't do weights or diets, juice every morning, eat a bit of everything, am slim, healthy and, aside from a few pesky, stubborn grey hairs, have no complaints
 Quoting: Buck Zander 26745463


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Cooked eggs taste better too. That has always been reason enough for me, but it's always nice to know my taste buds know their shit.
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Cooked eggs taste better too. That has always been reason enough for me, but it's always nice to know my taste buds know their shit.
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Agreed :-)
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nothing wrong with raw eggs!!!!!!!!!
especially if the chooks are healthy happy and not fed GM crap or laying pellet rubbish

Cook your egg in a non stick frypan
most unhealthy
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As a PT and a bit of of health fanatic I've searched long and hard about eating eggs, raw versus cooked.
Yep I've been guilty of downing a few raw eggs in a post workout shake as I followed the elites in their routines.

I did a quick search here and the basics were mentioned briefly but even with that knowledge I had, I still walked away a little confused.


Protein Absorption & Eggs:

Some older athletic diets used to propose eating just raw eggs. I now know this is a foolish attempt at taking in additional protein.
Eating raw eggs (or raw egg whites) will only result in about 50% absorption of the available protein.
That means if you eat enough raw eggs to give you 40 grams of protein, your body will only absorb apprx 20 grams.

Eating just raw egg whites results in the same (or worse).

Egg whites have a huge amount of a substanc called 'avidin' which loves biotin.
As a matter of fact, once the avidin-biotin forms a bond, the body can't break it apart. So you could develop a partial or full Biotin Deficiency Syndrome.
Cooking your eggs (or egg whites) will quickly denature the protein avidin and will allow you to absorb 98% of the protein.

In short, always cook your eggs.


Biotin Deficiency

The formation of a biotin deficiency from raw eggs has been recognized in science as far back as 1926.
Rats were given raw egg whites and developed the syndrome of hair loss, loss of muscle coordination, severe dermatitis, exhaustion, muscle pain and dry hair or eyes.

The raw eggs contain the glycoprotein avidin, which breaks down very quickly when cooked. This avidin chemical has huge interest in the amino acid biotin and bonds to it immediately.
Many foods contain biotin and there are normal bacteria in the intestines that produce biotin.

The long term use of anti biotics make the athlete further susceptible to biotin deficiencies, due to the destruction of the bacteria in the intestinal tract.


What Does Biotin Do?

Biotin ( a water soluble B-class vitamin) helps utilize other B's, aids the Krebs Cycle (energy) in the synthesis of fats and proteins and also helps in cell reproduction (growth)


I'm aware that Mercola and the like recommend raw egg intake but hopefully this has shed a bit of light into why this may not be the best solution.
Please use this information to continue further research for your self.
hf
 Quoting: trailingedge


Is it Safe to Eat Raw Eggs? The risk is small when you eat raw eggs, although the more often you eat them, the greater your risk of developing a case of food poisoning which could be life threatening. Overall, it's probably best from a health standpoint to cook your eggs or use Egg Beaters. [link to voices.yahoo.com] Smiley
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The study you reference in this article has nothing to do with drinking raw eggs whole. Yes it's true that drinking egg WHITES can cause a biotin deficiency, however, the egg yolk has biotin. As long as you drink the the whole egg (including the yolk) there is no risk of becoming biotin deficient.
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bullshit info with no link to study and says nothing between the difference between free range real eggs and fake factory farmed eggs

raw eggs are the healthiest food on the planet

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