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Message Subject February 24th 2013 Breaking News: Russia Threatens Nuclear War Against The USA !!!
Poster Handle Anonymous Coward
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Russia and China were ignored over Iraq.

They know a rogue state when they see one.

No change with Obama.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20756371


Balkins, Iraq, Libya, all places where NATO was leading the charge. What Russia and China have learned is that approving any UN resolution that ever so slightly hints at a warning is interpreted as a green light to the US for unilateral invasion. Usually the UN is approached after US domestic legislation that grants the executive a full range of powers to act.

These last three conflicts were unprecedented and have defined a new norm, NATO acting on its own, unilaterally and preemptively.

Of course this rips to shreds the concept of national sovereignty and squarely positions the US atop an Imperial Empire.

Since the 1990s the US and others have armed and trained insurgent wars inside Russia and China, that's been going on for awhile. Basically they havent panned out as expected. Instead, now, the strategy is to nibble on their peripheries, knocking off trading partners and allies, bit by bit, creating chaos up to and including their border areas. When a contiguous area of hostile states beholden to Washington (or its allies) bumps against the other major powers,,, there should be a steady uninterupted flow of arms and jihadists, capable of continuous supply and conflict inside Russia and China -- not the isolated pockets incapable of being refreshed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35051383


Russia and China were ignored over Iraq.

They know a rogue state when they see one.

No change with Obama.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20756371


Balkins, Iraq, Libya, all places where NATO was leading the charge. What Russia and China have learned is that approving any UN resolution that ever so slightly hints at a warning is interpreted as a green light to the US for unilateral invasion. Usually the UN is approached after US domestic legislation that grants the executive a full range of powers to act.

These last three conflicts were unprecedented and have defined a new norm, NATO acting on its own, unilaterally and preemptively.

Of course this rips to shreds the concept of national sovereignty and squarely positions the US atop an Imperial Empire.

Since the 1990s the US and others have armed and trained insurgent wars inside Russia and China, that's been going on for awhile. Basically they havent panned out as expected. Instead, now, the strategy is to nibble on their peripheries, knocking off trading partners and allies, bit by bit, creating chaos up to and including their border areas. When a contiguous area of hostile states beholden to Washington (or its allies) bumps against the other major powers,,, there should be a steady uninterupted flow of arms and jihadists, capable of continuous supply and conflict inside Russia and China -- not the isolated pockets incapable of being refreshed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35051383



The Russians and the Chinese are usually the ONLY nations in the world that ALWAYS oppose any action against a rouge state. The reason is very simple, especially for the Chinese. It's because Russia and China are not far removed from acting as rouge states themselves.

That being said, I think that what we did in Libya was a fucking crime. We directly aided a guerrilla army in order to overthrow a government under the auspices of "protecting civilians". My ass we were protecting civilians. We were basically the fucking close air support for an army of terrorists.
 
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