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63 yr old man starved to death because the British Conservative Government took away his sickness Benefit.

 
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63 yr old man starved to death because the British Conservative Government took away his sickness Benefit.
A terminally ill man from East Grinstead was found dead in his home following a DWP medical assessment by Croydon based medical company ATOS.

[link to www.afteratos.com]

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Government.

Always fucking the little guy.
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This Shameful, this government lets illegal immigrants and terrorist into this country and then give them 7 bedroomed houses to live in and thirty thousand a year to live off.
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02/24/2013 05:47 AM
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This Shameful, this government lets illegal immigrants and terrorist into this country and then give them 7 bedroomed houses to live in and thirty thousand a year to live off.
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And at the same time, goes to their countries and murders thousands of them. What a strange world we live in huh?
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02/24/2013 05:50 AM
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it's a fucking disgrace

yes, you may be 'fit' for work, but try GETTING a fucking job when you are as weak as he obviously was

it is high time we sorted this shit out!
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

some info on this disgrace of an organisation

Atos S.A. (wordmark styled as AtoS (Atos to Siemens)) or simply Atos,[2] is a French multinational IT services and consulting corporation headquartered in Bezons, France. Atos provides and delivers consulting and technology services, high technology transactional services, as well as managed services and systems integration to numerous clients globally.

In the UK, the company are known primarily for their work as Atos Healthcare, a division of Atos that has attracted sustained criticism for its management of the Work Capability Assessment on behalf of the Department of Work and Pensions - and particularly for its role in implementing the DWP's criteria for the treatment of disabled people.[3][4] Atos have been targeted in the media,[5][6] in Parliament,[7] by the medical profession,[8] and by numerous protest groups.


wtf

what the FUCK????????????????

FROGS are condemning people to death in this country?

ain't that just fucking grand?

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In the Summer of 2012, both Panorama and Dispatches[79] broadcast documentaries revealing the flaws in the Government's fitness to work test, the Work Capability Assessment. A BBC Panorama programme on 30 July 2012 alleged that very sick people were sent back to work, where they may die from their illness shortly afterwards.[80] On 17 January 2013, former Labour minister Michael Meacher opened a debate in Parliament by saying that:

''1,300 people had died after being placed in the “work-related activity group”, for those currently too ill to be employed but expected to start preparing for an eventual return to work. A further 2,200 died before the assessment process was completed and 7,100 died after being judged to be entitled to unconditional support because they are too ill or disabled to work''


omg, this government and this fucking horrible organisation are storing up a shitload of bad karma for themselves.

popcorn
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02/24/2013 06:22 AM
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disgusting,if you have no one looking out for you in this world you get shit all over.you cannot talk to the robot zombies in the welfare system they dont seem capable of empathy or compassion,they rip through all your personal info and finances and treat you like a scrounger,its becoming a cold and emotionless world.human mind is like a computer,its not education we get today its programming,they are turning us into feckin robots,incapable of emotions.in my opinion these arse wipes want the public to rise up,it is so incredibly blatant now,every nation has a breaking point.
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not just the ill who are dying... i read a report about an old lady who was bedridden house bound unable to care for herself.... the care company who looked after her was shut down as it was comprised of illegal immigrants... but they did not seek other care for her... she died as she was unable to get to her medication food water.... shameful... we should look after the ill and vulnerable...

[link to www.wsws.org]

[link to www.huffingtonpost.co.uk]


Shocking!!

this is not the first or only there are many dying.... but we are not told about them all.... the care for the disabled is even worse....

it is not the carers that are always to blame its the government and its quotas and procedures... and lack of humanity
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Re: Atos... people are killing themselves... as they cannot cope with the fact they are loosing their benefit but may have to pay extra for housing due to the bedroom tax etc etc etc...

there is imbalance if you ask me... i think they should stop mps and their benefits or perks... only then will i belive they are doing this for the good of the poeple!
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I work for one of the largest area councils.

Remember a couple of years ago they got rid of the wardens for the elderly estates?
Then spent the money on brand new audi cars for the 'officers', that's five cars for my small depot alone.
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Absolutely disgusting.

This government are devoid of compassion, especially whith the working classes.

Even Thatcher was'nt this bad and that's saying something.
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People need to stand up and fight all this type of shit before it becomes too late

This world and "our" ways of living is just so cold and evil but there is still some good left, just about

We need to stand up for what is right before we completely doom ourselves, our children and our grand kids to a life of pure hell and misery
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Who do they think we fucking are? slaves???
im a human being god damn it. My life has value!
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By Ian Bell -A terminally ill man aged 63 was found dead after ATOS submitted a report to the DWP stating that the 63 year old was fit and able to carry out manual work.

ATOS had made recommendations that his benefits should be stopped in November 2012. Police state that the 63 year old had died of kidney failure and starvation following the assessment.

ATOS state that it was their professional opinion that the man was fit and able to work despite being treated for kidney failure 5 days a week at the Princess Royal Hospital Haywards Heath West Sussex.

They have also denied any wrong doing or contributing to his death and state that they are only following the DWP rules aimed at getting 1 million people into work.

ATOS state that their system is fair and all rulings are final.
An eye witness stated that the 63 year old was taken to ATOS by his carer.

The carer stated that the assessment had only taken 2 minutes from start to finish before the elderly man was told he was fit for work.

The Government defends their decision to force 1 million people off benefits and into work as part of the clamp down to save money to reduce Government debt.
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good, then theres more monis for achmed ali and muhamed!

and this in the country who won WW2??? nice going.
Shoot straight Johnny
Yeah...yeah and thrice yeah

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The Government defends their decision to force 1 million people off benefits and into work as part of the clamp down to save money to reduce Government debt.
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Yeah, well first they should start by providing jobs for people. Real jobs.

They could also stop wasting untold thousands on such things as modern art and public sculptures.
The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands.
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Shut the fuck up and get back into your hospital bed.
It's your and you own it fuckstick.
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Re: 63 yr old man starved to death because the British Conservative Government took away his sickness Benefit.
I can tell you I'm in a far worse situation, have a life long illness that prevents me from having a normal life, almost 24, unable to work, living with my mum, no benefits, never had support from anyone but my family. Oh and btw im an immigrant
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Absolute fucking disgrace.

Problem is, if the collapse happens anybody not @ 100% health is dead.

Even many of those who are healthy now will die.
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I can tell you I'm in a far worse situation, have a life long illness that prevents me from having a normal life, almost 24, unable to work, living with my mum, no benefits, never had support from anyone but my family. Oh and btw im an immigrant
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are u so lazy that even filling out the paperwork to apply for benefits is to much of a task for u?
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I can tell you I'm in a far worse situation, have a life long illness that prevents me from having a normal life, almost 24, unable to work, living with my mum, no benefits, never had support from anyone but my family. Oh and btw im an immigrant
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Why cant you learn computer programming?

You are sat at a computer right now typing that out? you can do a data entry job or a programming job.

????
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I can tell you I'm in a far worse situation, have a life long illness that prevents me from having a normal life, almost 24, unable to work, living with my mum, no benefits, never had support from anyone but my family. Oh and btw im an immigrant
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are u so lazy that even filling out the paperwork to apply for benefits is to much of a task for u?
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I have been applying since 2004, already went through the process 4 times, but in ppls eyes im fit to work. even though i can barely move most of the time
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So it's the evil conservative uhh. Your precious socialist liberals have no stake in the current state of your fucked up healthcare system ehh? I guess you didn't get the message during the opening ceremony of the Olympics ehh?
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We are all in this shit together not just Britain, remember the old adage, Divide and Conquer'




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good, then theres more monis for achmed ali and muhamed!

and this in the country who won WW2??? nice going.
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I can tell you I'm in a far worse situation, have a life long illness that prevents me from having a normal life, almost 24, unable to work, living with my mum, no benefits, never had support from anyone but my family. Oh and btw im an immigrant
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Why cant you learn computer programming?

You are sat at a computer right now typing that out? you can do a data entry job or a programming job.

????
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The little income I get is by repairing pcs which is scarce
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Please note, i said Illegal immigrants! not immigrants.
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i think its true,we should focus on the future for our kind,what sort of world will our childrens children live in?instead of focusing on our own lives we should be thinking of the welfare of future generations.we should stand up for them and their freedom,then we can be worthy of the title heroes!!
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Re: 63 yr old man starved to death because the British Conservative Government took away his sickness Benefit.
A terminally ill man from East Grinstead was found dead in his home following a DWP medical assessment by Croydon based medical company ATOS.

[link to www.afteratos.com]
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if he was terminally ill he would have qualified for a DS1500 and wouldn't have needed the ESA which atos are dealing with

[link to www.patient.co.uk]

if he starved to death - ie couldn't prepare his own meals -didn't he have a private care company who was meant to come in 3 times a day with meals -and help him eat it? this is what social workers are meant to set up

btw , terminally ill people do die- they stop eating then drinking and usually die within a day or 2 of stopping drinking


terminally ill peoplle are also more prone to pulmonary emboli and brain emboli which kill them very suddenly

so was he terminally ill or disabled in some way ?
it's a bit confusing
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sorry - did't see that ( didn't look duh)

if he was on dialysis then he would qualify for a ds1500 - that is usually every other day though , not daily

and if he had a carer that took him to the atos hearing he would have a social worker who could advise and do the paperwork for ds1500
they would also asses his needs for care - regardless of the atos decsion re work

this doesn't make sense
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omg, this government and this fucking horrible organisation are storing up a shitload of bad karma for themselves.

popcorn
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We are too by enabling them.

just because you do not agree, you still allow, me included, it is a horrible viscous trap, and we will all one day have a price to pay for enabling the greed and placing others on peddlestools above us.

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