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City allows livestock in backyards but not chickens.

 
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02/24/2013 06:39 AM
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City allows livestock in backyards but not chickens.
So I am trying to get my city to allow for backyard chickens. The way the ordinance is written i can have chickens if they are no closer than 500ft to a neighbors home. My property is only 275 in length. I am trying to get them to change the ordinance to allow them closer. When i went to the council meeting they table the issue an basically said that I am new to the community and i should worry more about establishing a good rapport with people in town than chickens. However, their ordinance read "no person shall own, possess, harbor, or maintain any fowl within 500ft of another persons dwelling".

They do not define fowl, so by default it would include all birds. As a result of their lack of definition of the word, no person should be allowed to have a bird feeder, birdbath or any "pet" type bird in their home or yard, as this could be construed to be maintaining the birds.

They do not, however, have any ordinances in regards to livestock. So essentially, I can go out and get some pigs, goats, a horse or a cow and put then in my backyard.

How should I approach them during my next meeting?
Should I just go ahead and get some pigs just to teach them a lesson?
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02/24/2013 06:45 AM
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Re: City allows livestock in backyards but not chickens.
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Re: City allows livestock in backyards but not chickens.
You probably could have gotten away with having a few females in a modest coop not having already brought attention to it. How many are you talkin here?.. i wouldnt want to live with 100 chickens outside my winow.
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You probably could have gotten away with having a few females in a modest coop not having already brought attention to it. How many are you talkin here?.. i wouldnt want to live with 100 chickens outside my winow.
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Good point. I want about 4-8 hens. However, the way the law is written now, I could "technically" own 3000 chickens as long as they are 500ft away from any other persons home. Yes I could have just gotten them anyways, I however wanted to try and do it the right way first.
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02/24/2013 06:50 AM
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Re: City allows livestock in backyards but not chickens.
I don't think the pig is a good idea.
Pig farms tend to be quite smelly but with proper care it would probably be OK.

All in all, I think goats may be a better option. True they can be quite smelly when they piss on themselves to impress a mate but with a regular bathing they could be kept quite clean and pleasant to be around.

The goats would trim the grass but beware they will eat almost everything else. You probably would need to move your clothesline to the front yard.

Goat milk and goat cheese is very good once you get used to the strong smell and taste and I think is very healthy.

Goat meat if properly cooked can be quite tasty. I went to a goat BBQ once and the whole community was there so it might be a good way to meet the neighbors.

(Of course eggs would be out of the question but you can't have everything.)
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I have already checked both county and state laws, neither have any laws with regard to the residential ownership of fowl or livestock.
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Re: City allows livestock in backyards but not chickens.
I don't think the pig is a good idea.
Pig farms tend to be quite smelly but with proper care it would probably be OK.

All in all, I think goats may be a better option. True they can be quite smelly when they piss on themselves to impress a mate but with a regular bathing they could be kept quite clean and pleasant to be around.

The goats would trim the grass but beware they will eat almost everything else. You probably would need to move your clothesline to the front yard.

Goat milk and goat cheese is very good once you get used to the strong smell and taste and I think is very healthy.

Goat meat if properly cooked can be quite tasty. I went to a goat BBQ once and the whole community was there so it might be a good way to meet the neighbors.

(Of course eggs would be out of the question but you can't have everything.)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34426154


I would only get 1-2 pigs. I don't want a farm I just want to teach the council a lesson. Let me have chickens or I will put livestock in my backyard.
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Re: City allows livestock in backyards but not chickens.
So I am trying to get my city to allow for backyard chickens. The way the ordinance is written i can have chickens if they are no closer than 500ft to a neighbors home. My property is only 275 in length. I am trying to get them to change the ordinance to allow them closer. When i went to the council meeting they table the issue an basically said that I am new to the community and i should worry more about establishing a good rapport with people in town than chickens. However, their ordinance read "no person shall own, possess, harbor, or maintain any fowl within 500ft of another persons dwelling".

They do not define fowl, so by default it would include all birds. As a result of their lack of definition of the word, no person should be allowed to have a bird feeder, birdbath or any "pet" type bird in their home or yard, as this could be construed to be maintaining the birds.

They do not, however, have any ordinances in regards to livestock. So essentially, I can go out and get some pigs, goats, a horse or a cow and put then in my backyard.

How should I approach them during my next meeting?
Should I just go ahead and get some pigs just to teach them a lesson?
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Build the coop on 225 foot stilts in the air? lmao
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Re: City allows livestock in backyards but not chickens.
So I am trying to get my city to allow for backyard chickens. The way the ordinance is written i can have chickens if they are no closer than 500ft to a neighbors home. My property is only 275 in length. I am trying to get them to change the ordinance to allow them closer. When i went to the council meeting they table the issue an basically said that I am new to the community and i should worry more about establishing a good rapport with people in town than chickens. However, their ordinance read "no person shall own, possess, harbor, or maintain any fowl within 500ft of another persons dwelling".

They do not define fowl, so by default it would include all birds. As a result of their lack of definition of the word, no person should be allowed to have a bird feeder, birdbath or any "pet" type bird in their home or yard, as this could be construed to be maintaining the birds.

They do not, however, have any ordinances in regards to livestock. So essentially, I can go out and get some pigs, goats, a horse or a cow and put then in my backyard.

How should I approach them during my next meeting?
Should I just go ahead and get some pigs just to teach them a lesson?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33931750


Build the coop on 225 foot stilts in the air? lmao
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Haha... a chicken tower.
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Re: City allows livestock in backyards but not chickens.
I'm wondering if I should go forward with getting a couple pigs just to show them how ridiculous they are being?
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02/24/2013 11:09 AM
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Re: City allows livestock in backyards but not chickens.
you should look into Japanese quail
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02/24/2013 11:14 AM
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You could go with quail. They are much less noticeable. The eggs are much smaller though.
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02/24/2013 11:17 AM
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Re: City allows livestock in backyards but not chickens.
around her we have these buildings we call grocery stores and they always have loads of fresh eggs. that works for me. no hassle of maintaining a chicken coop anymore!
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02/24/2013 11:18 AM

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A lot of communities out here will allow you to have chickens...more specifically, hens but no roosters...

Laws dating back to the 1930's...

Take advantage of what you can while you can...
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Re: City allows livestock in backyards but not chickens.
Get with some other folks and petition the city, you can probably find like-minded people in backyard chicken groups in your area.

I have read of several cities changing their laws on this because of the way the economy and food prices are headed - so people can have a means of providing for their families. The thing they need to understand is the more people can provide for themselves, the better it is for your area in general.
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Re: City allows livestock in backyards but not chickens.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33931750


Keep the chickens in a coop INSIDE THE HOUSE.

Don't get a rooster (too much noise will bring attention
to you). If the girl chickens are still too noisey...
cut their vocal cords. Yes, it has been done. Survival
needs different requirements.

And/or don't do chickens.....do rabbits. Very prolific
for meat but of course not eggs.

Best wishes and good luck.

Unfortunately you have now already put a red flag on your name and your address.

Sometimes it is just better to do than to announce you are going to do.
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02/24/2013 11:20 AM
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Re: City allows livestock in backyards but not chickens.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33931750


Think vaccines and certain vaccines that are made from the viruses derived from chickens. They are vectors. But that's the fault of the mad sciontists who created the vaccines.
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Re: City allows livestock in backyards but not chickens.
around her we have these buildings we call grocery stores and they always have loads of fresh eggs. that works for me. no hassle of maintaining a chicken coop anymore!
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Yeah, sure, they'll have loads of fresh eggs for exactly one day in a SHTF scenario...besides, if you've ever really eaten "Fresh" eggs, that haven't had a formaldehyde bath, you'll never want to eat that shit they sell in the store again...

Last Edited by Saddletramp on 02/24/2013 11:21 AM
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02/24/2013 11:22 AM
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Sometimes it is easier to beg forgiveness than ask permission.
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02/24/2013 11:25 AM
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enjoy it while you can, I think they come out and steal all your food next.
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Re: City allows livestock in backyards but not chickens.
I don't think the pig is a good idea.
Pig farms tend to be quite smelly but with proper care it would probably be OK.

All in all, I think goats may be a better option. True they can be quite smelly when they piss on themselves to impress a mate but with a regular bathing they could be kept quite clean and pleasant to be around.

The goats would trim the grass but beware they will eat almost everything else. You probably would need to move your clothesline to the front yard.

Goat milk and goat cheese is very good once you get used to the strong smell and taste and I think is very healthy.

Goat meat if properly cooked can be quite tasty. I went to a goat BBQ once and the whole community was there so it might be a good way to meet the neighbors.

(Of course eggs would be out of the question but you can't have everything.)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34426154


Oh ya get a goat in 275 feet. Shit everywhere and it will chew and kill every tree and the fence and the house siding. Ya. That will work.

A pig would root up your whole yard. Everything. Ya that will work.

The only thing that works in residential areas is Meat Rabbits.
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02/24/2013 11:29 AM
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Move, there are zoning laws for a reason. I hate to sound harsh but....
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02/24/2013 11:31 AM

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Re: City allows livestock in backyards but not chickens.
I'd love to have some chickens, but watching my brother do it there are lots of problems.

If your area has raccoons your investment can be killed easily even with good protection, they are clever.

Move

And if you decide to stay, start with finding like minded families in your city.

You don't stand a chance fighting alone, get some others to go along with you and site the laws in other cities that allow it and come up with valid reasons why it would benefit your area.

Most residential areas forbid roosters for obvious reasons.

Best help would be if your neighbors agree.j

Good luck.
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Re: City allows livestock in backyards but not chickens.
Go to backyardchickens.com and find folks in your area that will fight the law with you.

I love my chickens they supply us with food and the eggs we sell pay for their feed. I hope you don't plan on keeping them in a small pen are chicken tractor I find that abusive. My hens would be so unhappy in one of those little containment coops. My hens forage from sun up to sun down I have the feed mill blend my chicken feed which is organic.
Also remember when hens are laying they announce it to the world they can be as loud or louder then a rooster.

You also need a spot or way to compost their poo, I swear they poo more then the horses lol.
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YA GROW UP!!!!!!

Teach them a lesson why?

To do what?

Your whole post sounds like an eight year old that's going to teach mommy and daddy a lesson!

Have fun I see lots and lots of money wasted in fines and court costs AND more of the same whining you're doing now!
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33931750


Keep the chickens in a coop INSIDE THE HOUSE.

Don't get a rooster (too much noise will bring attention
to you). If the girl chickens are still too noisey...
cut their vocal cords. Yes, it has been done. Survival
needs different requirements.

And/or don't do chickens.....do rabbits. Very prolific
for meat but of course not eggs.

Best wishes and good luck.

Unfortunately you have now already put a red flag on your name and your address.

Sometimes it is just better to do than to announce you are going to do.
 Quoting: JasmineinNM


Cut there vocal cords. LOL LOL LOL. I have farmed all my life and had chickens all my life. You are so full of crap it ain't even funny. Morons
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YA GROW UP!!!!!!

Teach them a lesson why?

To do what?

Your whole post sounds like an eight year old that's going to teach mommy and daddy a lesson!

Have fun I see lots and lots of money wasted in fines and court costs AND more of the same whining you're doing now!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10372663


I Agree. Get a life or move.
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02/24/2013 01:44 PM
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Re: City allows livestock in backyards but not chickens.
you should look into Japanese quail
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I had 14 japanese quail a few years back - lovely birds and tasty tiny eggs
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Yes. Phuque chickens.

Raise Cuy.

And phuque petshops who tell you that you have to buy their feed.

They eat grass.

Bang for buck.... and space utilized they are THE most elegant protein source.

Google.

Young just married couples in the mountains of Peru are often given a pair as a wedding gift to start producing protein source for family to be.

Google.

Delicious, BTW.

You have to think outside of the box if you are going to make it in the times to come.

And speaking of a box.... I've seen them raised in what amounts to a box. In a room.
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Also..... YT search for cuy.

Perhaps my post will be a wake up call of a sort.

Perhaps not.

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