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Elisa Lam - Startling Synchronicities

 
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Elisa Lam - Startling Synchronicities
The Elisa Lam case bears some striking similarities to the Japanese story Floating Water, later made into two Movies (Dark Water). The original Japanese and then an American remake.

In Dark Water the body of a young girl who lived on her own in a run down apartment block, and who went missing, is found in a water tank on the roof.

Residents report the water running black. (as did residents of the Cecil Hotel.)

The story strongly features supernatural activity and death centered around an elevator. (Elisa Lam's bizarre behaviour in the elevator)

In the US remake of the film (2005) the main character is called 'Dahlia'.

The actual Cecil Hotel was apparently a one time 'haunt' of Black Dahlia murder mystery victim Elizabeth Short.

Dahlia's daughter in the film is called Cecilia.

Elisa is a shortened version of Elisabeth... or Elizabeth Short.

Any more that anybody can see?
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damned
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Re: Elisa Lam - Startling Synchronicities
I also forgot to add the Lam Elisa TB test, and the TB outbreak in the area surround the Cecil Hotel.
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I also forgot to add the Lam Elisa TB test, and the TB outbreak in the area surround the Cecil Hotel.
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damned damned
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Re: Elisa Lam - Startling Synchronicities
summed up short & including all important information.

except one:
who could be interested in staging a murder like that?
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I want to know what the hell she was so afraid of in that elevator.
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Re: Elisa Lam - Startling Synchronicities
summed up short & including all important information.

except one:
who could be interested in staging a murder like that?
 Quoting: phoenixe


Not sure. I've read your thread though Phoenixe and it's fascinating stuff.

I just found all the links between two actual murders (Elisa Lam and Black Dahlia) and a story from Japan (Floating Water) to be very very strange. The US remake of the film ties it all together in a very spooky way... I love incidences of synchronicity.
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I want to know what the hell she was so afraid of in that elevator.
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From a description of Dark Water (US 2005)

"Cecilia... isn't fitting in and is spending too much time with an imaginary friend, named Natasha. A psychologist is recommended, but Dahlia declines and tells Cecilia to ignore Natasha. Although Veeck had said it was claimed, Dahlia discovers the Hello Kitty backpack in the laundry room's garbage. Cecilia later finds it in the elevator."

"and in the elevator, her mother's ghost braids her hair and comforts her"

"...momentarily horrified with a malfunction in the elevator, the weird behavior of his daughter"

From a description of Dark Water (Japan 2002)

"Intending to escape, she rushes into the elevator, fleeing apparently from the apparition of Mitsuko. But as the elevator door closes she sees that the figure pursuing her is in fact her own daughter..."

"Yoshimi sacrifices herself by staying on in the elevator to appease Mitsuko's spirit and pretending to be Mitsuko's mother. The elevator ascends and Ikuko follows, but when the doors open, a flood of murky brown water rushes out and nobody emerges."
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I want to know what the hell she was so afraid of in that elevator.
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well.. i am afraid this is the least we´ll find out.

if you´re happy with "invisible man", you´ll find that on the other thread.

i do see this video as a distraction, as it actually just shows a stressed/afraid woman.

and, the elevator scene with wild gestures pushing buttons is very much alike the one in the dark water movie.
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summed up short & including all important information.

except one:
who could be interested in staging a murder like that?
 Quoting: phoenixe


Not sure. I've read your thread though Phoenixe and it's fascinating stuff.

I just found all the links between two actual murders (Elisa Lam and Black Dahlia) and a story from Japan (Floating Water) to be very very strange. The US remake of the film ties it all together in a very spooky way... I love incidences of synchronicity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33628542


i understand your fascination with that!

it fits too perfect to not being staged.

everything, from those real murders to movies,
from name similarities to what is released to the public,
from the tb outbreak nearby to the tb test with the mirror-name,
even this really weird things we found out in the thread connects just perfect.

i want to know who did this and why.

and i suppose there is more than 2 people involved and the death of this poor girl is just the beginning of something else.
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I want to know what the hell she was so afraid of in that elevator.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8406227


From a description of Dark Water (US 2005)

"Cecilia... isn't fitting in and is spending too much time with an imaginary friend, named Natasha. A psychologist is recommended, but Dahlia declines and tells Cecilia to ignore Natasha. Although Veeck had said it was claimed, Dahlia discovers the Hello Kitty backpack in the laundry room's garbage. Cecilia later finds it in the elevator."

"and in the elevator, her mother's ghost braids her hair and comforts her"

"...momentarily horrified with a malfunction in the elevator, the weird behavior of his daughter"

From a description of Dark Water (Japan 2002)

"Intending to escape, she rushes into the elevator, fleeing apparently from the apparition of Mitsuko. But as the elevator door closes she sees that the figure pursuing her is in fact her own daughter..."

"Yoshimi sacrifices herself by staying on in the elevator to appease Mitsuko's spirit and pretending to be Mitsuko's mother. The elevator ascends and Ikuko follows, but when the doors open, a flood of murky brown water rushes out and nobody emerges."
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just think..
what if.. these ghosts/projections mentioned in the film became reality for Elisa as these invisible men, made by this company doing augmented reality stuff ..
would fit in the bigger picture as well..
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sorry for spamming your thread, Op.

i just wanted to point out that in this weird story there is even a place for more weird stuff.
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sorry for spamming your thread, Op.

i just wanted to point out that in this weird story there is even a place for more weird stuff.
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Np Phoenixe all commentary is welcome.
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Re: Elisa Lam - Startling Synchronicities
I want to know what the hell she was so afraid of in that elevator.
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She didnt appear to be afraid of anything, IMO. She looked to me like she was trying to play a joke on someone that never showed up. I hear it happening like this:
"I'll meet you in the elevator, hold it for me"
"sure thing,heeheehee"
She goes to the elevator to hold it, and pushes all the buttons so friends has to stand through the longest elevator ride ever. She is obviously waiting for someone, and without fear. She hops out playfully as if to say "gotcha" But the person she is waiting for did not show up in this vid clip. Sure she makes som eodd hand gestures, shuffles around a bit. But she didnt know she was on camera, and might have been having a few drinks to boot. I have been known to dance around to music in my head when i thought no one was looking. I admit her death is a curious thing, but i cant watch this video and think anything is going on here but a playful game of hide and seek. Her face shows no fear, and despite the low quality, when she hides in the corner she looks happy to me, almost smiling. You are all here trying to turn her game into a chilling account of a terrifying final moment but there isnt a lot here to support that.
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Re: Elisa Lam - Startling Synchronicities
[link to i50.tinypic.com]

Love it when life imitates art...
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Re: Elisa Lam - Startling Synchronicities
she looks high, or out of it- can tell by the way she grabs for the wall to almost hold herself up when pressing buttons etc....she relies on the wall too much, as a subtance abuser i can tell you it's a common reactionn...
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Re: Elisa Lam - Startling Synchronicities
AC - Dark Water is a very eerie parallel.
There was also mention somewhere on this thread that Elisa Lam's name means 'Blue Child'. This reminds me of Project Bluebird:
(see Dr. Colin Ross's post under wanttoknowinfo)where 'unethical experiments are conducted by psychiatrists' who create Manchurian candidates.
MK Ultra is also responsible for instances of biological warfare against the general population, hence the TB outbreak.

The four minute Youtube video on Elisa Lam in the elevator ends with the elevator door opening twice,and Elisa is gone.
I get a very bad feeling from it.
She was being stalked by someone and she knew it, and looks like she was incapacitated by drugs and not sure where to run.

I'm curious as to whether additional footage of the hotel hallways or front door around this time period is available, or if the killer took the stairs, maybe even posed as a hotel employee.
The water tank lid must have been accessed and unlocked by someone. Nothing in her bloodstream- someone who knew how to kill a person -LSD? Insulin?
The killer was involved in germ warfare.
JenL

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