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Rare Pentagon Footage From 911 (Couldnt believe it was a Plane)

 
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I'm guarantee there's more cameras deeper inside too, and yes that is where the good stuff is so why wouldn't there be? But I also guarantee there's better cameras surrounding every inch of that building. And if not thats why they confiscated all video from that day from all businesses around there. They didn't want us seeing something and you fucking know it! Why such great footage of the planes flying into the trade centers but not one showing us the planes decline and the impact into the pentagon?
 Quoting: ZedLeppelin


The WTC was filmed by the media with far better cameras than security cameras. Again, the security cameras are more than adequate for their intended purpose. There was no media at the Pentagon until after the crash.
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Honestly just quit, weasel... You know nobody gives a flying fuck about what you have to say. So even if the pentagon only had shitty cameras... Where's all the footage they confiscated from the local businesses? Come on man how can you not see the fishyness around all of this???
 Quoting: ZedLeppelin


Again, only the gas station and hotel cameras had a viewpoint to see the impact site. Those HAVE been released. You want more? Then do the FOIA requests. AFAIK the only reason more footage has not been released is the FOIA requests have not been completed. People love to complain about the lack of footage but very few actually do anything about it.
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Sorry weasel I was in third grade when this happened, I'm quite new to all of this conspiracy stuff I'm sure you can guess. Explain what I have to do to request footage. And will this get me into any trouble?
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Ok low information humans...

Now where did the F4 go... quick say conspiracy!!!

Please think.
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different plane, different structure. thanks for playing though.
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Are all the eyewitnesses to the crash liars and conspirators?

Are all the people from multiple agencies involved in the rescue, recovery, and investigation liars and conspirators?

Are all the people injured at the Pentagon liars and conspirators?

Are all the plane parts identifed at the Pentagon from Flight 77 ravaged somewhere else and then placed there right after the(bomb missile, magic fairy) whatever else happened there?

Were all the people who died on Flight 77 really taken somewhere else instead and killed?

Was the known and documented plane, N644AA, taken somewhere else instead?

Was the known and documented flight 77 taken somewhere else?




No to all of the above.
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That's a little to much truth for this thread :}

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The WTC was filmed by the media with far better cameras than security cameras. Again, the security cameras are more than adequate for their intended purpose. There was no media at the Pentagon until after the crash.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


Honestly just quit, weasel... You know nobody gives a flying fuck about what you have to say. So even if the pentagon only had shitty cameras... Where's all the footage they confiscated from the local businesses? Come on man how can you not see the fishyness around all of this???
 Quoting: ZedLeppelin


Again, only the gas station and hotel cameras had a viewpoint to see the impact site. Those HAVE been released. You want more? Then do the FOIA requests. AFAIK the only reason more footage has not been released is the FOIA requests have not been completed. People love to complain about the lack of footage but very few actually do anything about it.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


Sorry weasel I was in third grade when this happened, I'm quite new to all of this conspiracy stuff I'm sure you can guess. Explain what I have to do to request footage. And will this get me into any trouble?
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You've never heard of a Freedom of Information Act request? Try Google. I won't hold your hand.
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Honestly just quit, weasel... You know nobody gives a flying fuck about what you have to say. So even if the pentagon only had shitty cameras... Where's all the footage they confiscated from the local businesses? Come on man how can you not see the fishyness around all of this???
 Quoting: ZedLeppelin


Again, only the gas station and hotel cameras had a viewpoint to see the impact site. Those HAVE been released. You want more? Then do the FOIA requests. AFAIK the only reason more footage has not been released is the FOIA requests have not been completed. People love to complain about the lack of footage but very few actually do anything about it.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


Sorry weasel I was in third grade when this happened, I'm quite new to all of this conspiracy stuff I'm sure you can guess. Explain what I have to do to request footage. And will this get me into any trouble?
 Quoting: ZedLeppelin


You've never heard of a Freedom of Information Act request? Try Google. I won't hold your hand.
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Opps I know whatcha talking about you fucking shill. Thanks for the help! I dont blame you for not wanting to hold my hand while I do this. It might cause you to loose your job!
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Here you want a video camera of the attack shill boys; here you go.

Tell me more fairy tales how this is a Boeing 757; this should be good :}



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From watching the cop car, the frame rate is about 1-2 frames/sec. In one second, a plane going 400 mph would cover about 650 feet. So the odds of catching even the blur would be quite low on this surveillance video. Only about 200 feet of foreground from the Pentagon is visible.
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Again, only the gas station and hotel cameras had a viewpoint to see the impact site. Those HAVE been released. You want more? Then do the FOIA requests. AFAIK the only reason more footage has not been released is the FOIA requests have not been completed. People love to complain about the lack of footage but very few actually do anything about it.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


Sorry weasel I was in third grade when this happened, I'm quite new to all of this conspiracy stuff I'm sure you can guess. Explain what I have to do to request footage. And will this get me into any trouble?
 Quoting: ZedLeppelin


You've never heard of a Freedom of Information Act request? Try Google. I won't hold your hand.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


Opps I know whatcha talking about you fucking shill. Thanks for the help! I dont blame you for not wanting to hold my hand while I do this. It might cause you to loose your job!
banana2
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Prove this is my job. I'll bet you can't and won't even try.

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Here you want a video camera of the attack shill boys; here you go.

Tell me more fairy tales how this is a Boeing 757; this should be good :}



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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 560401


From watching the cop car, the frame rate is about 1-2 frames/sec. In one second, a plane going 400 mph would cover about 650 feet. So the odds of catching even the blur would be quite low on this surveillance video. Only about 200 feet of foreground from the Pentagon is visible.
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The frame rate was 1 frame per second. Add to that the fact that each frame is not scanned at exactly the same time. The plane moves before the entire frame is scanned and at best is a faint slightly transparent blur.
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No matter what evidence you see your feeble excuse for mind has decided you will not believe it.

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The only bit of evidence I want to see is a video of a plane hitting the pentagon! I know there's footage of exactly what happened at the pentagon on 9/11. Probably slowed down enough to see the point of impact of whatever hit the building, but the problem is it was all confiscated... And why wasn't it being shown on the news drilling fear into us on that day?!?! BECAUAE IT WOULD BLOW EVERYTHING IF WE SAW AN AMERICAN CRUISE MISSLE SMASHING INTO THE PENTAGON!!!!! Yeah that would have drilled fear into us, fear of our own fucking government killing its people only for the sake of advancing of their agenda.
 Quoting: ZedLeppelin


Its cute that you think security cameras that are designed for foot traffic and slow moving vehicles and as such only film at 1 frame per second should show something that fast moving clearly at all.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


It's cute that you think that those are acceptable security cameras. Let alone for the headquarters of the department of defense!! I have better better security cameras watching my community college you bitch! GETT THE FUCK OUTTA HERE YOU SHILLS!!!
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Please don't procreate. We have enough windowlickers and mouth breathers on this shitty planet to deal with.
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Maybe a bomb exploded inside and they couldnt admit it. Because it would give future jihadis more ideas.

Smart move!

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Facts and weaselly blah blah
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"Weasel Turbine." Is that the fake turbine they found at the Pentagon?

I crack myself up.

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It's cute that you think that those are acceptable security cameras. Let alone for the headquarters of the department of defense!! I have better better security cameras watching my community college you bitch! GETT THE FUCK OUTTA HERE YOU SHILLS!!!
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That was 2001. They werent even digital yet. They were still using tape. Common security cameras have come a long ways in the 12 years since you were in 3rd grade.
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Maybe a bomb exploded inside and they couldnt admit it. Because it would give future jihadis more ideas.

Smart move!

yoda
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Maybe they put a bomb in a bomb so they could bomb at bombing, you fuckwit.
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jesus cant believe that people still think that a plane didnt hit the pentagon.
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From the gov documents, it was by a missle,( were that come from?)
That whole fiasco 911 was created so we could get a foot hold in the mideast. Saw this on matrix tv some years ago, no plane. Saw how the world trade center was lined with charges to blow, remote control planes, loaded with explosives. No plane in Pa eithier, It looked like someone took a flame thrower, burnt the ground, smoke and mirrors.
Guns dont kill people,, the government does!
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You've got to throw out witness testimony in the absence of clear and conclusive video footage (which exists but has been withheld from the public). Ignore the witness testimony. Go to the pure science. Could a plane have hit the Pentagon in the manner the witnesses describe? Is it possible for a 737 to fly 400mph 50-25 feet off the ground? That's the number one question and from what I've seen of the science, it's impossible. There would be too much ground turbulence. The plane could not have held its course.
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Prove the bolded part. I'll bet you can't. I assume you meant ground effect (which is itself a kind of turbulence). Ground effect is greatest at LOW speeds and high angles of attack. The approach to the Pentagon was at high speed and a low or negative angle of attack. Ground effect is negligible in those conditions.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


I am not a pilot or an engineer. I'm trusting the expert opinion of those pilots and engineers who say it can't be done. My own opinion is that if the plane was diving straight down or even on a steep angle, it could have possibly hit the pentagon right at ground level through the lower floor offices, but the official story has the plane flying low and level a mere 20 feet off the ground (sheering off the tops of light poles a mile away). It has the plane flying just a few feet above parked cars. ??? Imagine the chaos that should have caused. Have you ever stood on the shoulder of a busy highway and felt the effect of passing cars? The faster the cars pass the more effect they have (I realize this is a different phenomena, but needs to be considered as well).
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Sorry weasel I was in third grade when this happened, I'm quite new to all of this conspiracy stuff I'm sure you can guess. Explain what I have to do to request footage. And will this get me into any trouble?
 Quoting: ZedLeppelin


You've never heard of a Freedom of Information Act request? Try Google. I won't hold your hand.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


Opps I know whatcha talking about you fucking shill. Thanks for the help! I dont blame you for not wanting to hold my hand while I do this. It might cause you to loose your job!
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Prove this is my job. I'll bet you can't and won't even try.

Definition of shill in your post: Someone with a different opinion than me.
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If you give me a few hints as to how I could find this out I'm sure I could. Like what did about FOIA hehehehe and no my definition for shill is the one found on Wikipedia lolol and so far you fit the description.

But i guess there is a chance you aren't a shill and you truly believe 9/11 was a terrorist attack. If that's the case like you're claiming, do you believe in any other conspiracy theories or do you just come to glp to post your "facts" and argue with people who obviously think differently than you do? And if that's the case I don't see the point in that.

Insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results. No different than what you're doing here. You ain't gonna change my mind on shit. So if you are a shill, you and all your coworkers were hired due to your insanity.
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Here you want a video camera of the attack shill boys; here you go.

Tell me more fairy tales how this is a Boeing 757; this should be good :}



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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 560401


From watching the cop car, the frame rate is about 1-2 frames/sec. In one second, a plane going 400 mph would cover about 650 feet. So the odds of catching even the blur would be quite low on this surveillance video. Only about 200 feet of foreground from the Pentagon is visible.
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The frame rate was 1 frame per second. Add to that the fact that each frame is not scanned at exactly the same time. The plane moves before the entire frame is scanned and at best is a faint slightly transparent blur.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


And another thing, you've got an entire Pentagon full of military brass who know New York's been hit and now you've got this same military brass informing Cheney multiple times that there was a plane heading for the Pentagon (so the story goes...) and Cheney refusing to address the problem -- you'd be reasonable to assume that there would be at least one person assigned to track and film said rogue plane. Finally, you have Rumsfeld slipping up and saying a missile hit the Pentagon. That would be my guess - a small global hawk coming in and firing off a missile. But I'm open to other credible explanations. I'm not married to any one theory.
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You've got to throw out witness testimony in the absence of clear and conclusive video footage (which exists but has been withheld from the public). Ignore the witness testimony. Go to the pure science. Could a plane have hit the Pentagon in the manner the witnesses describe? Is it possible for a 737 to fly 400mph 50-25 feet off the ground? That's the number one question and from what I've seen of the science, it's impossible. There would be too much ground turbulence. The plane could not have held its course.
 Quoting: Cryin Wont Help Ya


Prove the bolded part. I'll bet you can't. I assume you meant ground effect (which is itself a kind of turbulence). Ground effect is greatest at LOW speeds and high angles of attack. The approach to the Pentagon was at high speed and a low or negative angle of attack. Ground effect is negligible in those conditions.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


I am not a pilot or an engineer. I'm trusting the expert opinion of those pilots and engineers who say it can't be done. My own opinion is that if the plane was diving straight down or even on a steep angle, it could have possibly hit the pentagon right at ground level through the lower floor offices, but the official story has the plane flying low and level a mere 20 feet off the ground (sheering off the tops of light poles a mile away). It has the plane flying just a few feet above parked cars. ??? Imagine the chaos that should have caused. Have you ever stood on the shoulder of a busy highway and felt the effect of passing cars? The faster the cars pass the more effect they have (I realize this is a different phenomena, but needs to be considered as well).
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A mile? More like a few hundred feet.
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You've never heard of a Freedom of Information Act request? Try Google. I won't hold your hand.
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Opps I know whatcha talking about you fucking shill. Thanks for the help! I dont blame you for not wanting to hold my hand while I do this. It might cause you to loose your job!
banana2
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Prove this is my job. I'll bet you can't and won't even try.

Definition of shill in your post: Someone with a different opinion than me.
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If you give me a few hints as to how I could find this out I'm sure I could. Like what did about FOIA hehehehe and no my definition for shill is the one found on Wikipedia lolol and so far you fit the description.

But i guess there is a chance you aren't a shill and you truly believe 9/11 was a terrorist attack. If that's the case like you're claiming, do you believe in any other conspiracy theories or do you just come to glp to post your "facts" and argue with people who obviously think differently than you do? And if that's the case I don't see the point in that.
 Quoting: ZedLeppelin

Isn't that what you're doing at this point also?


Insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results. No different than what you're doing here. You ain't gonna change my mind on shit. So if you are a shill, you and all your coworkers were hired due to your insanity.
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I've been here ONE evening. Hardly over and over. And I'm not trying to change your mind. I know that is a lost cause. All I've done so far is correct misconceptions, such as the "15 minute" intercept time of Payne Stewart, the outer rings of the Pentagon being completely separate, etc. Notice that so far I have yet to even say what I believe and have NOT said anything about a terrorist attack. You assumed that.

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Here you want a video camera of the attack shill boys; here you go.

Tell me more fairy tales how this is a Boeing 757; this should be good :}



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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 560401


From watching the cop car, the frame rate is about 1-2 frames/sec. In one second, a plane going 400 mph would cover about 650 feet. So the odds of catching even the blur would be quite low on this surveillance video. Only about 200 feet of foreground from the Pentagon is visible.
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The frame rate was 1 frame per second. Add to that the fact that each frame is not scanned at exactly the same time. The plane moves before the entire frame is scanned and at best is a faint slightly transparent blur.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


And another thing, you've got an entire Pentagon full of military brass who know New York's been hit and now you've got this same military brass informing Cheney multiple times that there was a plane heading for the Pentagon (so the story goes...) and Cheney refusing to address the problem -- you'd be reasonable to assume that there would be at least one person assigned to track and film said rogue plane. Finally, you have Rumsfeld slipping up and saying a missile hit the Pentagon. That would be my guess - a small global hawk coming in and firing off a missile. But I'm open to other credible explanations. I'm not married to any one theory.
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for the bolded part: Why? When in history since the invention of radar have aircraft been tracked with film?
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Probst, Frank
About 9:25 a.m., he stopped by the renovation workers' trailer just south of the Pentagon heliport.
Probst took a sidewalk alongside Route 27, which runs near the Pentagon's western face. Traffic was at a standstill because of a road accident. Then, at about 9:35 a.m., he saw the airliner in the cloudless September sky. American Airlines Flight 77 approached from the west, coming in low over the nearby five-story Navy Annex on a hill overlooking the Pentagon. He has lights off, wheels up, nose down," Probst recalled. The plane seemed to be accelerating directly toward him. He froze. "I knew I was dead," he said later. "The only thing I thought was, 'Damn, my wife has to go to another funeral, and I'm not going to see my two boys again.'" He dove to his right. He recalls the engine passing on one side of him, about six feet away. The plane's right wing went through a generator trailer "like butter," Probst said. The starboard engine hit a low cement wall and blew apart. He still can't remember the sound of the explosion. Sometimes the memory starts to come back when he hears a particularly low-flying airliner heading into nearby Reagan National Airport, or when military jets fly over a burial at Arlington National Cemetery. Most of the time, though, his memory is silent. "It was pretty horrible," he said of the noiseless images he carries inside him, of the jet vanishing in a cloud of smoke and dust, and bits of metal and concrete drifting down like confetti. On either side of him, three streetlights had been sheared in half by the airliner's wings at 12 to 15 feet above the ground. An engine had clipped the antenna off a Jeep Grand Cherokee stalled in traffic not far away.
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Probst, Frank
"I was standing on the sidewalk (parallel to the site of impact)...and I saw this plane coming right at me at what seemed like 300 miles an hour. I dove towards the ground and watched this great big engine from this beautiful airplane just vaporize," said Frank Probst, a member of the Pentagon renovations crew commented. "It looked like a huge fireball, pieces were flying out everywhere."
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Renzi, Rick Rick Renzi a law student - ''The plane came in at an incredibly steep angle with incredibly high speed,''... was driving by the Pentagon at the time of the crash about 9:40 a.m. The impact created a huge yellow and orange fireball, he added. Renzi, who was interviewed at the scene by FBI agents, said he stopped his car to watch and saw another plane following and turn off after the first craft's impact.
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Every one of your links I've tried so far either 404s or has nothing to do with 9/11, I'm calling bullshit on your links.
Anyone else notice this?
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those links are probably from years ago.. he's probably working off a fact sheet given to him by his supervisor that's getting a lil outdated
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Opps I know whatcha talking about you fucking shill. Thanks for the help! I dont blame you for not wanting to hold my hand while I do this. It might cause you to loose your job!
banana2
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Prove this is my job. I'll bet you can't and won't even try.

Definition of shill in your post: Someone with a different opinion than me.
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


If you give me a few hints as to how I could find this out I'm sure I could. Like what did about FOIA hehehehe and no my definition for shill is the one found on Wikipedia lolol and so far you fit the description.

But i guess there is a chance you aren't a shill and you truly believe 9/11 was a terrorist attack. If that's the case like you're claiming, do you believe in any other conspiracy theories or do you just come to glp to post your "facts" and argue with people who obviously think differently than you do? And if that's the case I don't see the point in that.
 Quoting: ZedLeppelin

Isn't that what you're doing at this point also?


Insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results. No different than what you're doing here. You ain't gonna change my mind on shit. So if you are a shill, you and all your coworkers were hired due to your insanity.
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I've been here ONE evening. Hardly over and over. And I'm not trying to change your mind. I know that is a lost cause. All I've done so far is correct misconceptions, such as the "15 minute" intercept time of Payne Stewart, the outer rings of the Pentagon being completely separate, etc. Notice that so far I have yet to even say what I believe and have NOT said anything about a terrorist attack. You assumed that.
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Ok whatever man I'm out. I got friends to chill with and weed to smoke I don't got time to sit on the computer and argue all day like its my job. I wasted the past couple hours already. I guess everyone has there first arguement with a shill. And if you aren't find out how to become one you'd do fucking great. By the way I won't forget to complete my FOIA request! :D
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Re: Rare Pentagon Footage From 911 (Couldnt believe it was a Plane)
those links are probably from years ago.. he's probably working off a fact sheet given to him by his supervisor that's getting a lil outdated
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lol
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Re: Rare Pentagon Footage From 911 (Couldnt believe it was a Plane)
Why? When in history since the invention of radar have aircraft been tracked with film?
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You're kidding, right?
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Re: Rare Pentagon Footage From 911 (Couldnt believe it was a Plane)
I don't believe it was a plane. That said, what are the chances of turbin terrorists taking a plane and crashing it into the exact section of the pentagon where aspartame rumsfields 2.3 trillion was being investigated??

We are where we are today because of the lies being told about what happened on that day. The evil continues.....
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Re: Rare Pentagon Footage From 911 (Couldnt believe it was a Plane)
Flight 77 hit the Pentagon and everything is consistent with that.

Body parts were found and plane pieces were identified among much evidence confirming it.

An extensive investigation involving multiple agencies was involved in the investigation. Anyone believing it was a massive hoax has to also belive that literally 1000s of people are 'in on it.'
 Quoting: Ice Eanum 34464973


what if the 1000's of people in on it were just like you. you know, in the pig/Military with nothing to lose and historically zero accountability. you'd get behind it and keep your snout shut then wouldn't you pigshill
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'what ifs' are all the disinfo agents like have to go on

We live in a world where decisions of truth are made based on the available facts, and not fantasy.
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Where's the black box?
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Re: Rare Pentagon Footage From 911 (Couldnt believe it was a Plane)
Are all the eyewitnesses to the crash liars and conspirators?

Are all the people from multiple agencies involved in the rescue, recovery, and investigation liars and conspirators?

Are all the people injured at the Pentagon liars and conspirators?

Are all the plane parts identifed at the Pentagon from Flight 77 ravaged somewhere else and then placed there right after the(bomb missile, magic fairy) whatever else happened there?

Were all the people who died on Flight 77 really taken somewhere else instead and killed?

Was the known and documented plane, N644AA, taken somewhere else instead?

Was the known and documented flight 77 taken somewhere else?




No to all of the above.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34464973

No because they're make believe witnesses. Until I can actually contact and talk to someone who was a witness I'm calling bullshit.
Anyone can write a make believe story.
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