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Rare Pentagon Footage From 911 (Couldnt believe it was a Plane) | |
Weasel_Turbine  User ID: 31859349  United States02/24/2013 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why? When in history since the invention of radar have aircraft been tracked with film? Quoting: Weasel_Turbine You're kidding, right? Are you? Does ANY aeronautical agency track aircraft with a camera when radar is available? Would the camera show its exact location? No need to track it with a camera. The Pentagon is absolutely bristling with cameras and there would be dozens of videos of the "plane" hitting. So why are there none? Prove it is "bristling with cameras". Prove those cameras would be any better than 1 frame per second (perfectly adequate to capture foot and vehicle traffic). Why have tons of cameras on what is primarily an office building where most of the proceedings are NOT secret (which need someone to monitor them) when you already have security guards, locked doors, access badges, and awareness by those who have access to sensitive areas looking out for those who should not, all of which work better than cameras? If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly. - Danth's Law |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34464973 United States02/24/2013 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are all the eyewitnesses to the crash liars and conspirators? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34464973 Are all the people from multiple agencies involved in the rescue, recovery, and investigation liars and conspirators? Are all the people injured at the Pentagon liars and conspirators? Are all the plane parts identifed at the Pentagon from Flight 77 ravaged somewhere else and then placed there right after the(bomb missile, magic fairy) whatever else happened there? Were all the people who died on Flight 77 really taken somewhere else instead and killed? Was the known and documented plane, N644AA, taken somewhere else instead? Was the known and documented flight 77 taken somewhere else? No to all of the above. No because they're make believe witnesses. Until I can actually contact and talk to someone who was a witness I'm calling bullshit. Anyone can write a make believe story. So you dont believe anything that has ever happened in the history of man, except for those things which you have been personally involved in? It must suck to live a hyper-paranoid life like that where everything is a lie to you and everyone is a liar and where massive conspiracies involving large populations of people doing murder are successful and kept hidden from discovery, and this happens day after day. because whether or not you realize it, thats what you are if what you said is what you believe |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21303902 United States02/24/2013 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Dr. Charles Norris User ID: 35067956 United States02/24/2013 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For anyone who thinks that a plane hit the pentagon..... I have one piece of evidence that will prove you wrong.... The official story says: As the plane made its way to the pentagon it took out light posts on the interstate and then skid across the pentagon lawn as it crashed into the pentagon. You can look at any picture from that day you will see the pentagon lawn in perfect condition.... Green grass everywhere... Even in front of the so called "impact zone"..... UNDISTURBED GREEN GRASS!!!!!! Please explain to me how a plane could skid across the lawn without tearing the grass up?????? TAKE A LOOK FOR YOURSELF!!!!! [link to i46.tinypic.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5141990 United States02/24/2013 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com] Quoting: Steve8511 Ok low information humans... Now where did the F4 go... quick say conspiracy!!! Please think. different plane, different structure. thanks for playing though. Wow! Great video. OP ----- they do not want us to see/know all of the infrastructure secrets of the pentagon. Those of us local know that those roads were too jam packed with traffic and witnesses at that hour to hide anything. Everyone here has an uncle,brother,mother, etc who saw, knew someone who saw, yadda yadda yadda that day. Just like the WTC, a plane hit the building. Just because they do not release every damn tape out there showing it; does not make it not true. My uncle ... lol was painting inside right where the plane hit the pentagon the day before. They had just finished the job...lucky for them. |
| Gladio User ID: 22439147 United States02/24/2013 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IIRC they recovered it from the Pentagon. The ones in the WTC had a couple of buildings dropped on them. They weren't really designed for that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34464973 From wikipedia: "Due to their importance in investigating accidents, these ICAO-regulated devices are carefully engineered and stoutly constructed to withstand the force of a high speed impact and the heat of an intense fire." [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34420400 United States02/24/2013 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | jesus cant believe that people still think that a plane didnt hit the pentagon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16273761 i can't believe that there are still people who do not realize that a plane did not hit the building. you are in denial, or else you have not given it any serious thought along with very little effort to research the facts. |
| SmuRidley User ID: 591627  Canada02/24/2013 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Dr. Charles Norris User ID: 35067956 United States02/24/2013 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For anyone who thinks that a plane hit the pentagon..... Quoting: Dr. Charles Norris I have one piece of evidence that will prove you wrong.... The official story says: As the plane made its way to the pentagon it took out light posts on the interstate and then skid across the pentagon lawn as it crashed into the pentagon. You can look at any picture from that day you will see the pentagon lawn in perfect condition.... Green grass everywhere... Even in front of the so called "impact zone"..... UNDISTURBED GREEN GRASS!!!!!! Please explain to me how a plane could skid across the lawn without tearing the grass up?????? TAKE A LOOK FOR YOURSELF!!!!! [link to i46.tinypic.com] Thread: For anyone who thinks that A PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON.....(look inside) [link to i48.tinypic.com] [link to i49.tinypic.com] [link to i45.tinypic.com] [link to i46.tinypic.com] [link to i50.tinypic.com] [link to i50.tinypic.com] |
| Crazy Harriet User ID: 35079960 United States02/24/2013 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Dr. Charles Norris User ID: 35067956 United States02/24/2013 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34464973 United States02/24/2013 11:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For anyone who thinks that a plane hit the pentagon..... Quoting: Dr. Charles Norris I have one piece of evidence that will prove you wrong.... The official story says: As the plane made its way to the pentagon it took out light posts on the interstate and then skid across the pentagon lawn as it crashed into the pentagon. You can look at any picture from that day you will see the pentagon lawn in perfect condition.... Green grass everywhere... Even in front of the so called "impact zone"..... UNDISTURBED GREEN GRASS!!!!!! Please explain to me how a plane could skid across the lawn without tearing the grass up?????? TAKE A LOOK FOR YOURSELF!!!!! [link to i46.tinypic.com] Thread: For anyone who thinks that A PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON.....(look inside) [link to i48.tinypic.com] [link to i49.tinypic.com] [link to i45.tinypic.com] [link to i46.tinypic.com] [link to i50.tinypic.com] [link to i50.tinypic.com] The 9/11 Commission Report does not state that Flight 77 skidded across the lawn. eewww sorry I busted that one; next disinfo please |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 136556 United States02/25/2013 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Might aswell get outta here you shills. I hardly post on here but after seeing this thread today I had to. And I'm not going to let you assholes push my posts down with your fake ass eye witness reports. I dont give a fuck about eye witness reports in this situation. I just want to see a video as good as the one of the twin towers. And there is absolutely no reason there isn't one. Businesses all around the pentagon had their security footage taken from them! Why haven't we seen it?!? Huh?!? Quoting: ZedLeppelin Yes, and they have no answer for that....proves they are "under the influence". |
| Garman906 User ID: 33929906 United States02/25/2013 05:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The level of undue influence and outright infiltration by foreign interests (mostly Israeli with some Saudi) and the level of pandering and prostituting by our morally degenerate military brass to the political "authorities" was reaching a crisis level back in the 1990's. I can't imagine what things are like now. Quoting: LunaHominem The only hope for restoring the national sovereignty and security of the United States rests with those with the guns: the military and law enforcement. Sadly, those two parties sold their souls to the Beast a long time ago for women (and boys), money, and power - this is what happened in ancient Rome right before they were destroyed. This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ X1000 |
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| thetrickybigguy User ID: 21011836 United States02/25/2013 11:18 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34464973 but the passport at the towers survived....    Falling down is a part of life, getting back up is living. ~ Life is about choices, you get to make them each and every day of your life. ~ Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.~ Only in America... do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: 'Poloi' in Greek meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'.~ “When a government is dependent for money upon the bankers, they and not the government leaders control the nation. This is because the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Financiers are without patriotism and without decency.” If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain. Winston Churchill |
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| J_ User ID: 35177432 United States02/27/2013 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where did that black box go? They managed to find the passport easy enough. Um....they recovered both black boxes from Flight 77. Which they found inside the Pentagon. The voice recorder was retrieved but too damaged to be read. The flight data recorder still worked and they used it to study the attack. There are entire threads on this very board where people debate the data they pulled from the FDR. The NTSB released its content in an excel spread sheet that anyone can download. Hell, they even created a rough animation in approximation of the crash. Anyone can download it from youtube. But still we get folks claiming that no black box was ever found. Citing....no one. Its apparently just something 911 conspiracy theorists tell each other. I have no idea where it started. J |
| J_ User ID: 35177432 United States02/27/2013 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why? When in history since the invention of radar have aircraft been tracked with film? Quoting: Weasel_Turbine You're kidding, right? Are you? Does ANY aeronautical agency track aircraft with a camera when radar is available? Would the camera show its exact location? No need to track it with a camera. The Pentagon is absolutely bristling with cameras and there would be dozens of videos of the "plane" hitting. So why are there none? Who says there would have been 'dozens of cameras' with videos of the plane? I can see say, cameras in the lobby. Or a camera at a check point gate. But why cameras pointed at the sky? Or across the street? Or at an outside wall? J |
| J_ User ID: 35177432 United States02/27/2013 12:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in the hands of the NTSB, but burned beyond the point of any usable data The Voice Recorder, yes. But the FLight Data Recorder worked fine. They were able to pull tons of useful data off of it. You can download it if you'd like. The NTSB released its logs as an excel file years ago. There's even a rough animation on the topic made by the NTSB. Its not perfect....but it clearly shows that there was plenty of data on the FDR. J |
| J_ User ID: 35177432 United States02/27/2013 12:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Stackpot User ID: 26844024 United States03/07/2013 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First, go find yourself a first grader and show them this video. When it's over, casually say to them "did you see that plane crash?" A blank stare would indicate a NO answer. Didn't see it you say, go ahead, play it again, only this time make it fun! Offer a reward for the first to spot the plane. You can join in the fun too if you want. Sit down with them and share a bowl of popcorn, good luck finding it. Remember, 6 year old kids may not be able to read page after page of boring eyewitness testimony's, but they do have an innate ability to call bull shit when they see it. It's easy to decipher the truth if that's what you want. All you need is two good eyes, a bit of common sense and a mind of your own. Wallah, the truth! I'll concede that with all the disinformation and trickery we adults are subjected to, it's not quite that simple. But if you can get past all that conditioning and propaganda, the truth is usually right there in front of you, hidden in plain sight. There were many planes and helicopters flying near the Pentagram that day and allot of people saw them for sure, but what exactly did they see? Every type of plane, it seems, is mentioned in the eye witness accounts that I've read. Conflicting air speeds and flight paths get confusing, not to mention the majority of witnesses are known media types with a stake in the game. Nonetheless, It is implausible to believe that despite hundreds of security, traffic and other secured cameras scattered around the D.C. area, not one single image of a plane hitting the Pentagram has been seen or been made public. And it's even harder to believe this scenario. A novice pilot successfully navigates a Jumbo-Jet into a stationary target on his first try. Barreling through metal poles and traffic jams at breakneck speeds nearing 500 MPH, the recent flight school drop out/turned top gun candidate, approaches his target at a death defying altitude of inches, to score a direct hit or bulls eye.  All this after killing the an ex marine pilot with a box cutter and figuring out a very complicated transponder system in a bloody cockpit. An all American, all-aluminum aircraft body bores into, and through, multiple layers of steel reinforced concrete? In broad daylight and with advanced notice, an unarmed commercial airliner enters restricted US airspace and attacks the United States Capitol. Despite an unprecedented defense budget, which included trillions in recently "disappeared" black budget funds, the nation is attacked without so much as a whimper of self defense. Rather than face court martial, the military's top brass in charge and on duty that day, are all promoted in rank. The miracle upon miracle upon shocking coincidences that looked just like a movie theory, is alive and well. |
| RedDawnPost User ID: 15731848 United States04/23/2013 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow!! is Lt. Medalros still alive? "To harm another, is to harm ones self." ~Socrates "Love your brother like your soul, guard him like the pupil of your eye." Alternative News: [link to www.reddawnpost.com] |
