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1st question

Seems lens flare would happened daily

not only 4 or 5 times monthly
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Yes, nice video of a lens flare reflection by the sun. And yes, the reflected image of the sun in the water produces its own lens flare which is offset in the same manner and like the lens flare by the sun in the sky, is just a reflection of the sun's image.

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You serious dude? a reflected image of the sun in the water produces its own lens flare?
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any other videos from other sources showing this? anyone?
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Such a focused lens flare
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1st question

Seems lens flare would happened daily

not only 4 or 5 times monthly
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Depends on the extent to which the sun is unobscured or not. It's a lens flare; it appears in front of the clouds and is always in that same lens flare line pointing back towards the sun.
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Such a focused lens flare
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that reflects in the water...
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Suit yourself, I will make a mental note though that you refused to watch it and consider the evidence - meaning - you don't have all of the evidence to come to a proper conclusion. You may not like the guy, but it's best not to always shoot the messenger, it's better to listen to the message. You can learn something from everybody.
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Not going to waste my time listening to someone I know from past experience is full of it. You could have just told me to watch the first 30 seconds. I don't need to watch the other 48:30.
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9:40-10:53.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2023117


Another lens flare. It's not going to move "with the ecliptic," and it doesn't matter if the sun's in the field of view or not (I thought we just learned that RE: earth in HI1). It always appears in the same lens flare line with the sun though (the dimmer parts of the flare line can sometimes be harder to see, but clouds over the mountain while the sun is relative unobscured make for the best view of the entire flare line):
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
Notice too that it appears in front of the clouds around the volcano. It's not dimmed or blurred by those clouds, if anything it's enhanced because of better contrast than with the blue sky.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


ALSO the object itself looks more opaque and three dimensional, like it's miles away behind the clouds. I keep looking back at it to see if you are right, but I'm sorry, something does not appear right with the lens flare theory.
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Hi, just passing thru, don't mind me....
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Not going to waste my time listening to someone I know from past experience is full of it. You could have just told me to watch the first 30 seconds. I don't need to watch the other 48:30.
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9:40-10:53.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2023117


Another lens flare. It's not going to move "with the ecliptic," and it doesn't matter if the sun's in the field of view or not (I thought we just learned that RE: earth in HI1). It always appears in the same lens flare line with the sun though (the dimmer parts of the flare line can sometimes be harder to see, but clouds over the mountain while the sun is relative unobscured make for the best view of the entire flare line):
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
Notice too that it appears in front of the clouds around the volcano. It's not dimmed or blurred by those clouds, if anything it's enhanced because of better contrast than with the blue sky.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


ALSO the object itself looks more opaque and three dimensional, like it's miles away behind the clouds. I keep looking back at it to see if you are right, but I'm sorry, something does not appear right with the lens flare theory.
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Object itself? What are you smoking? It's in front of the clouds.
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How do you know the cloud density
at the point of photo capture

If this team is monitoring daily

How do you know that they are not catching
any break in the clouds they can get
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Such a focused lens flare
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Please, look at the pic he just posted of the lens flare line....the object is ALWAYS in a perfect straight line with the OTHER lens flares. It is undeniable proof.
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Such a focused lens flare
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that reflects in the water...
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Astro keeps avoiding these ones.

Butthurt?
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Such a focused lens flare
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Please, look at the pic he just posted of the lens flare line....the object is ALWAYS in a perfect straight line with the OTHER lens flares. It is undeniable proof.
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lens flare DO NOT reflect on water, idiot.
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9:40-10:53.
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Another lens flare. It's not going to move "with the ecliptic," and it doesn't matter if the sun's in the field of view or not (I thought we just learned that RE: earth in HI1). It always appears in the same lens flare line with the sun though (the dimmer parts of the flare line can sometimes be harder to see, but clouds over the mountain while the sun is relative unobscured make for the best view of the entire flare line):
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
Notice too that it appears in front of the clouds around the volcano. It's not dimmed or blurred by those clouds, if anything it's enhanced because of better contrast than with the blue sky.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


ALSO the object itself looks more opaque and three dimensional, like it's miles away behind the clouds. I keep looking back at it to see if you are right, but I'm sorry, something does not appear right with the lens flare theory.
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Object itself? What are you smoking? It's in front of the clouds.
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Nice try. Look at it when the clouds are not in front of it. It's not the same color as the other lense flares. The object is opaque, and appears farther away.
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Such a focused lens flare
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that reflects in the water...
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Astro keeps avoiding these ones.

Butthurt?
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I did? Why are you lying? I already addressed it:
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I don't believe at this moment that
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Another lens flare. It's not going to move "with the ecliptic," and it doesn't matter if the sun's in the field of view or not (I thought we just learned that RE: earth in HI1). It always appears in the same lens flare line with the sun though (the dimmer parts of the flare line can sometimes be harder to see, but clouds over the mountain while the sun is relative unobscured make for the best view of the entire flare line):
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
Notice too that it appears in front of the clouds around the volcano. It's not dimmed or blurred by those clouds, if anything it's enhanced because of better contrast than with the blue sky.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


ALSO the object itself looks more opaque and three dimensional, like it's miles away behind the clouds. I keep looking back at it to see if you are right, but I'm sorry, something does not appear right with the lens flare theory.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


Object itself? What are you smoking? It's in front of the clouds.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Nice try. Look at it when the clouds are not in front of it.
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The clouds aren't in front of it, that's the whole point. You don't get to ignore the inconvenient part that disproves your claim.
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Suit yourself, I will make a mental note though that you refused to watch it and consider the evidence - meaning - you don't have all of the evidence to come to a proper conclusion. You may not like the guy, but it's best not to always shoot the messenger, it's better to listen to the message. You can learn something from everybody.
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Not going to waste my time listening to someone I know from past experience is full of it. You could have just told me to watch the first 30 seconds. I don't need to watch the other 48:30.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

9:40-10:53.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2023117


Another lens flare. It's not going to move "with the ecliptic," and it doesn't matter if the sun's in the field of view or not (I thought we just learned that RE: earth in HI1). It always appears in the same lens flare line with the sun though (the dimmer parts of the flare line can sometimes be harder to see, but clouds over the mountain while the sun is relative unobscured make for the best view of the entire flare line):
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
Notice too that it appears in front of the clouds around the volcano. It's not dimmed or blurred by those clouds, if anything it's enhanced because of better contrast than with the blue sky.
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You misquote the video. They make 4 points and you misstate them and fail to answer.

Provide the time stamp for when clouds pass behind the object.
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Not going to waste my time listening to someone I know from past experience is full of it. You could have just told me to watch the first 30 seconds. I don't need to watch the other 48:30.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

9:40-10:53.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2023117


Another lens flare. It's not going to move "with the ecliptic," and it doesn't matter if the sun's in the field of view or not (I thought we just learned that RE: earth in HI1). It always appears in the same lens flare line with the sun though (the dimmer parts of the flare line can sometimes be harder to see, but clouds over the mountain while the sun is relative unobscured make for the best view of the entire flare line):
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
Notice too that it appears in front of the clouds around the volcano. It's not dimmed or blurred by those clouds, if anything it's enhanced because of better contrast than with the blue sky.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You misquote the video. They make 4 points and you misstate them and fail to answer.

Provide the time stamp for when clouds pass behind the object.
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I already provided the image. I answered the stated points, by and large they're strawmen having nothing to do with actual lens flares, which neither require the light source to be in the image nor would it move "with the ecliptic."
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Now don't pick on Dr. (?) Asstro about the lens flare.

Most are his relatives, you know. They rarely visit/talk to him, and he comes here to raise his ego UP from their negative values, O.K. ?
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1st question

Seems lens flare would happened daily

not only 4 or 5 times monthly
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Depends on the extent to which the sun is unobscured or not. It's a lens flare; it appears in front of the clouds and is always in that same lens flare line pointing back towards the sun.
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1st question

Seems lens flare would happened daily

not only 4 or 5 times monthly
 Quoting: Ice


Depends on the extent to which the sun is unobscured or not. It's a lens flare; it appears in front of the clouds and is always in that same lens flare line pointing back towards the sun.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You failed to adequately, ie at all, address the points made at 9:50-10:53


Object appears when no light source;

Appears sharp with shadowed side from sun;

Light source moves across sky but object remains intense.

Such factors are all inconsistent with a lens flare.
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9:40-10:53.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2023117


Another lens flare. It's not going to move "with the ecliptic," and it doesn't matter if the sun's in the field of view or not (I thought we just learned that RE: earth in HI1). It always appears in the same lens flare line with the sun though (the dimmer parts of the flare line can sometimes be harder to see, but clouds over the mountain while the sun is relative unobscured make for the best view of the entire flare line):
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
Notice too that it appears in front of the clouds around the volcano. It's not dimmed or blurred by those clouds, if anything it's enhanced because of better contrast than with the blue sky.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You misquote the video. They make 4 points and you misstate them and fail to answer.

Provide the time stamp for when clouds pass behind the object.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8625642

I already provided the image. I answered the stated points, by and large they're strawmen having nothing to do with actual lens flares, which neither require the light source to be in the image nor would it move "with the ecliptic."
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Just for you though, the timestamp is 16:37.
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You are asking me to go back and rewatch a 49 min. video and get the time stamps for you, when it would be just as easy to watch it yourself. :)
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You're the one presenting it, you're the one familiar with the material and would know where to look in the video for it. I will not waste 49 minutes watching bullshit just to try to find all the various cams he presents. Post specific images and/or timestamps or I will automatically disregard it as spamming for yowusa.
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Suit yourself, I will make a mental note though that you refused to watch it and consider the evidence - meaning - you don't have all of the evidence to come to a proper conclusion. You may not like the guy, but it's best not to always shoot the messenger, it's better to listen to the message. You can learn something from everybody.
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Not going to waste my time listening to someone I know from past experience is full of it. You could have just told me to watch the first 30 seconds. I don't need to watch the other 48:30.
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The one thing that stands out to me about any of this is how many times people say "Not going to waste my time...etc" but keep going on and on trying to prove things one way or another... But I'm surly not going to waste MY time trying to analyze the situation! lol.
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ALSO the object itself looks more opaque and three dimensional, like it's miles away behind the clouds. I keep looking back at it to see if you are right, but I'm sorry, something does not appear right with the lens flare theory.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


Object itself? What are you smoking? It's in front of the clouds.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Nice try. Look at it when the clouds are not in front of it.
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The clouds aren't in front of it, that's the whole point. You don't get to ignore the inconvenient part that disproves your claim.
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You are not listening, look at it when there is blue sky around it. Oh that's, you already did.
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Such a focused lens flare
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Please, look at the pic he just posted of the lens flare line....the object is ALWAYS in a perfect straight line with the OTHER lens flares. It is undeniable proof.
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lens flare DO NOT reflect on water, idiot.
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Did you even look at the pic proving it is always in the same line as the other lens flares? Please look at that and tell me what it is. Please.

wtf
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Object appears when no light source;
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The light source need not be in the frame. The sun is up.
Appears sharp with shadowed side from sun;
 Quoting: AC

Cart before the horse. You must first prove it's a real object before you start talking about shadowed sides. It's not. It's a lens flare. It doesn't matter what morphology it has, that's just a function of the specific optical elements in use.
Light source moves across sky but object remains intense.
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Non-sequitur. It's not going to dim just because the sun moves.
Such factors are all inconsistent with a lens flare.
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Nope.

You fail.
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Object itself? What are you smoking? It's in front of the clouds.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Nice try. Look at it when the clouds are not in front of it.
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The clouds aren't in front of it, that's the whole point. You don't get to ignore the inconvenient part that disproves your claim.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You are not listening, look at it when there is blue sky around it. Oh that's, you already did.
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It does not matter what it looks like when there is blue sky around it. You're like some kid who just got shown what a mall Santa looks like with the fake beard, hat, and glasses off and you're begging me to put the costume back on him. It's just a lens flare, that's why it appears in front of the clouds while the sun is still unobscured.

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Nice try. Look at it when the clouds are not in front of it.
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The clouds aren't in front of it, that's the whole point. You don't get to ignore the inconvenient part that disproves your claim.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You are not listening, look at it when there is blue sky around it. Oh that's, you already did.
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It does not matter what it looks like when there is blue sky around it. You're like some kid who just got shown what a mall Santa looks like with the fake beard, hat, and glasses off and you're begging me to put the costume back on him. It's just a lens flare, that's why it appears in front of the clouds while the sun is still unobscured.
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Nope. Object is opaque and three dimensional when appearing in the background against blue sky, lense flares are clear and appear closer. Major difference.
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The clouds aren't in front of it, that's the whole point. You don't get to ignore the inconvenient part that disproves your claim.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You are not listening, look at it when there is blue sky around it. Oh that's, you already did.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


It does not matter what it looks like when there is blue sky around it. You're like some kid who just got shown what a mall Santa looks like with the fake beard, hat, and glasses off and you're begging me to put the costume back on him. It's just a lens flare, that's why it appears in front of the clouds while the sun is still unobscured.
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Nope. Object is opaque and three dimensional when appearing in the background against blue sky, lense flares are clear and appear closer. Major difference.
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That is not how you assess a lens flare. Lens flares appear in front of clouds, celestial objects do not. It does not matter how "far away" you think it is or how opaque it is. If it appears in front of clouds, done.

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9:40-10:53.
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Another lens flare. It's not going to move "with the ecliptic," and it doesn't matter if the sun's in the field of view or not (I thought we just learned that RE: earth in HI1). It always appears in the same lens flare line with the sun though (the dimmer parts of the flare line can sometimes be harder to see, but clouds over the mountain while the sun is relative unobscured make for the best view of the entire flare line):
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
Notice too that it appears in front of the clouds around the volcano. It's not dimmed or blurred by those clouds, if anything it's enhanced because of better contrast than with the blue sky.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Thanks for watching it

Your verdict

Lens flare.


Got it

Now the case for it not being lens flare
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Could be a ufo sitting in front of the clouds, or a weather balloon, but I seriously doubt it; it would be rather unusual for either one of those to be hanging about in the exact same line of lens flares day after day.
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Hey dude

It took a while

Now I know

What a cool gig you got going !!

I m not telling

You can do what you want

Time is up!!!!
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Another lens flare. It's not going to move "with the ecliptic," and it doesn't matter if the sun's in the field of view or not (I thought we just learned that RE: earth in HI1). It always appears in the same lens flare line with the sun though (the dimmer parts of the flare line can sometimes be harder to see, but clouds over the mountain while the sun is relative unobscured make for the best view of the entire flare line):
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
Notice too that it appears in front of the clouds around the volcano. It's not dimmed or blurred by those clouds, if anything it's enhanced because of better contrast than with the blue sky.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Thanks for watching it

Your verdict

Lens flare.


Got it

Now the case for it not being lens flare
 Quoting: Ice


Could be a ufo sitting in front of the clouds, or a weather balloon, but I seriously doubt it; it would be rather unusual for either one of those to be hanging about in the exact same line of lens flares day after day.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Hey dude

It took a while

Now I know

What a cool gig you got going !!

I m not telling

You can do what you want

Time is up!!!!
 Quoting: Ice


Ice man, what are you talking about?
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