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### Elisa Lam - the elevator - video - discussion - thread ! ###

 
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Ok , looked at it again, it looks like she was playing the game hide and seek, when she goes back in the ekevator her hands go up like, what did I just see? Then when she steps out again she moves her hands through something like , are you real? Then you can see her count on her fingers , like , one, two, three, ready or not here I come.
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Do you believe she was already dead at this point? The face, the black holes for eyes etc

Many are saying she was 'zombie' before she was put into the water tank.
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No, I write this only to scare phoenixe ;) She refuses to watch video.
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thx for giving me my "daily shiver" .. it´s creepy enough for me to read/write about ... ;)
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Re: ### Elisa Lam - the elevator - video - discussion - thread ! ###

another question..
does anyone know, where this video originated?
where it was first shown?
who gave it to media/internet for us to watch?


@arkadaiy:
do you think this is in fact a real surveillence cam video?

could someone just tape their own homecam at places a surveillence cam would be and alter it afterwards?



my thought:
some (asian)tourists were visiting there, stayed in the hotel and thought it might be funny to take a dark-water-style video for fun&giggles.
back at home, they cut it.
meaning: this video was filmed in the Celia hotel, but another time, date and shows another person.


Its is a real surveillance cam because of matrix "adaptation" effect. Notice, when its less light, camera adaptates to it, thats for security reason.
Actually you need a video registrator, and battery, for filming that type of stuff, and of course, a ledder.

Besides, Chinese likes to play with elevator: [link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: phoenixe



I think this is the most important question asked so far.
Also, if this video was available certainly there were others...so where are they?
And who edited it for us?
And where is all the data/info from her phone?
And why wouldn't she be wearing her glasses in the elevator?
And where was she actually staying?
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can someone repost the ghost investigator story of hotel where the psychic talks about young girl death
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It looked like she was on something..
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It looked like she was on something..
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I don't think so because she was aware and walking right. Looks like she was playing a game with things we can't see.
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Maybe children because she bends down to their level to touch it, but her hand goes through it. Reminds of that one Chinese movie, where the ghost follows you, it's some kind of legend in china or japan?
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can someone repost the ghost investigator story of hotel where the psychic talks about young girl death
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here you go.. it is the same psychic as you posted about, as far as i remember?

Remote viewer of Lams death

[link to chelseadamali.wordpress.com]

Once again, no substances, no trauma. I do not see that she was killed ahead of time, before hitting the water. I do see that she was coerced in. Whether that be by someone “ALIVE” or someone from the other side, the coercer was playing on the same team as what she was running from. NOW… interestingly enough, here is something to consider. I see something stuck NOT IN HER THROAT, but it’s in her windpipe, it’s a piece of paper or something similar that she stuffed in her mouth before going in, or was put there, but I believe while possibly gasping for air, sucked it all the way down. It’s lodged in her windpipe, past her epiglottis, and if unfolded or uncrumpled, appears to have something written on it. If this has pertinent information on the case, then great. I’m not saying it does. Much of her final hours were spent doing off the wall things that will not make sense to many of us anyway. That could be just one of those things.
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Maybe children because she bends down to their level to touch it, but her hand goes through it. Reminds of that one Chinese movie, where the ghost follows you, it's some kind of legend in china or japan?
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Omg! The movie called the grudge! That's what it reminds me of.
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Re: ### Elisa Lam - the elevator - video - discussion - thread ! ###

another question..
does anyone know, where this video originated?
where it was first shown?
who gave it to media/internet for us to watch?


@arkadaiy:
do you think this is in fact a real surveillence cam video?

could someone just tape their own homecam at places a surveillence cam would be and alter it afterwards?



my thought:
some (asian)tourists were visiting there, stayed in the hotel and thought it might be funny to take a dark-water-style video for fun&giggles.
back at home, they cut it.
meaning: this video was filmed in the Celia hotel, but another time, date and shows another person.


Its is a real surveillance cam because of matrix "adaptation" effect. Notice, when its less light, camera adaptates to it, thats for security reason.
Actually you need a video registrator, and battery, for filming that type of stuff, and of course, a ledder.

Besides, Chinese likes to play with elevator: [link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: phoenixe



I think this is the most important question asked so far.
Also, if this video was available certainly there were others...so where are they?
And who edited it for us?
And where is all the data/info from her phone?
And why wouldn't she be wearing her glasses in the elevator?
And where was she actually staying?
 Quoting: arkadiy


and first of all:
is that really her or just some other asian girl in this video?
for non-asians they all look very similar - as whites to for them, too.
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Re: ### Elisa Lam - the elevator - video - discussion - thread ! ###
no thats the one I posted earlier thats the remote viewer there is a ghost show that went to cecil hotel and the psychic was talking about the murders there and mentions she sees a woman in her young 20s being killed I saw it on another thread and theres like 500 on this subject cant find it
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no thats the one I posted earlier thats the remote viewer there is a ghost show that went to cecil hotel and the psychic was talking about the murders there and mentions she sees a woman in her young 20s being killed I saw it on another thread and theres like 500 on this subject cant find it
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it´s the same psychic doing that show!
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no thats the one I posted earlier thats the remote viewer there is a ghost show that went to cecil hotel and the psychic was talking about the murders there and mentions she sees a woman in her young 20s being killed I saw it on another thread and theres like 500 on this subject cant find it
 Quoting: KITKAT123


it´s the same psychic doing that show!
 Quoting: phoenixe


It doesn't take a physic to figure out she was playing a game, hide and seek with something small in stature, that we can't see. Watch the video from that prospective, you will see.
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I guess none of you no anything about meth induced psychosis. The girl is tweeking.
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I mean't "know."
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no thats the one I posted earlier thats the remote viewer there is a ghost show that went to cecil hotel and the psychic was talking about the murders there and mentions she sees a woman in her young 20s being killed I saw it on another thread and theres like 500 on this subject cant find it
 Quoting: KITKAT123


it´s the same psychic doing that show!
 Quoting: phoenixe


It doesn't take a physic to figure out she was playing a game, hide and seek with something small in stature, that we can't see. Watch the video from that prospective, you will see.
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i am not going to watch the video in full length. never. :)

but as you read my questions above, i question being her EL:
this includes "playing a game" = staging "dark water".
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LAPD lihks to cutted video on strange MrFrank channel: [link to www.lapdonline.org]
But why not to official LAPD Youtube account?

Thats first appearence on 13 feb : [link to www.youtube.com] full version

So LAPD seems to cut suspicious 2:56- timelapse and pushing short version
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The way she looks back to see if something's following her is her trying prove to herself she's not crazy she knows something's there even if she can't see it. The way she goes from lucid to making crazy motions with her hands and feet that's her being possessed.
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''Ultimately her visit to LA started to get strange Day 3 of her being there, when the nightmares and night terrors began. by the next day they were seeping into her waking hours……some may say hallucinations, shadow figures, that type of thing… every present, following, watching, listening. It didn’t take more than two days before they were talking to her, communicating with her, saying horrible things… psychologists may try to explain this away as a mental break… or that they are acute symptoms of paranoid schitzophrenia, even though that’s not something that she was ever close to having, no family history, nothing there to suggest it.''

[link to chelseadamali.wordpress.com]
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''Ultimately her visit to LA started to get strange Day 3 of her being there, when the nightmares and night terrors began. by the next day they were seeping into her waking hours……some may say hallucinations, shadow figures, that type of thing… every present, following, watching, listening. It didn’t take more than two days before they were talking to her, communicating with her, saying horrible things… psychologists may try to explain this away as a mental break… or that they are acute symptoms of paranoid schitzophrenia, even though that’s not something that she was ever close to having, no family history, nothing there to suggest it.''

[link to chelseadamali.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: strikeforce


Exactly what I'm talking about
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ehm - from another thread, i don´t know what to make of these videos, but.. they are special.

and may have nothing to do with the case we´re talking about.
so fwiw:

when watching, make sure no kids around!

[link to vimeo.com]
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It looked like she was on something..
 Quoting: MessengerInTheLastDays


I don't think so because she was aware and walking right. Looks like she was playing a game with things we can't see.
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She was acting like people act when they take "Molly" or "Bath Salts" though.. Why was she pushing all the buttons in the elevator?? Why didn't the Elevator door close? and what were the weird jesters she was doing outside the elevator.. She seemed like she was high on something..
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It looked like she was on something..
 Quoting: MessengerInTheLastDays


I don't think so because she was aware and walking right. Looks like she was playing a game with things we can't see.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25788477


She was acting like people act when they take "Molly" or "Bath Salts" though.. Why was she pushing all the buttons in the elevator?? Why didn't the Elevator door close? and what were the weird jesters she was doing outside the elevator.. She seemed like she was high on something..
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read the content of the dark water movie. she is acting it out. including the button-pushing.
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LAPD lihks to cutted video on strange MrFrank channel: [link to www.lapdonline.org]
But why not to official LAPD Youtube account?

Thats first appearence on 13 feb : [link to www.youtube.com] full version

So LAPD seems to cut suspicious 2:56- timelapse and pushing short version
 Quoting: arkadiy


first appearence Feb 13 !?

you sure? this video?

she was found later...
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LAPD lihks to cutted video on strange MrFrank channel: [link to www.lapdonline.org]
But why not to official LAPD Youtube account?

Thats first appearence on 13 feb : [link to www.youtube.com] full version

So LAPD seems to cut suspicious 2:56- timelapse and pushing short version
 Quoting: arkadiy


first appearence Feb 13 !?

you sure? this video?

she was found later...
 Quoting: phoenixe


omg.

update 14.2.
first upload 13.2.

video on this channel before body was found !?


youtube-time-glitch?

or just another "coincidence" ?

and nice pixelation of the time/date.
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what a cutie , so sad, but there are some very very very sinister things ,lurking under ground ,especially in that part of los angeles, reptoid nest,s for one.
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i will bet ZAK could enlighten us on a few things about this part of LA , hell it,s the reptoid capital on the left coast.
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Ok , looked at it again, it looks like she was playing the game hide and seek, when she goes back in the ekevator her hands go up like, what did I just see? Then when she steps out again she moves her hands through something like , are you real? Then you can see her count on her fingers , like , one, two, three, ready or not here I come.
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Hide and seek gone wrong, maybe???
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Ok , looked at it again, it looks like she was playing the game hide and seek, when she goes back in the ekevator her hands go up like, what did I just see? Then when she steps out again she moves her hands through something like , are you real? Then you can see her count on her fingers , like , one, two, three, ready or not here I come.
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Hide and seek gone wrong, maybe???
 Quoting: Perfectly Paleo


naked ? in a water tank ? no cloths mentioned ?
no dogs smelled her up the roof?
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Ok , looked at it again, it looks like she was playing the game hide and seek, when she goes back in the ekevator her hands go up like, what did I just see? Then when she steps out again she moves her hands through something like , are you real? Then you can see her count on her fingers , like , one, two, three, ready or not here I come.
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Hide and seek gone wrong, maybe???
 Quoting: Perfectly Paleo


naked ? in a water tank ? no cloths mentioned ?
no dogs smelled her up the roof?
 Quoting: phoenixe


what about the theory someone mentioned about her being told that the tanks were a good place for isolation (isolation tank) and sensory deprivation??
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