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### Elisa Lam - the elevator - video - discussion - thread ! ###

 
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I would not get a room there -- not unless every single pipe, sink, and shower was replaced, along with the water tanks....

Talk about fuckin' nasty.
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Well, most people wouldn't use that hotel at all. It's not exactly in the classiest part of LA. It's known to be the cheapest hotel in that part of LA and it's right beside Skid Row which is essentially where all the drug addicts and homeless people hang out. But the stupid thing is, now that this event has happened, they've had so many calls from people wanting to stay there that prices have jumped up 3x. That is how stupid people are.
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Just to give my opinion after watching the video several times, reading and considering other peoples ideas.

It does appear to me that she is being playful at first, and not hiding from someone. When she walks in the elevator, and turns to the buttons, she does a bit of a spin with her arm up. It looks like a playful action.

She then stands back just standing there. I think she might be drunk or on a dissociative. I've seen several say she was too coherent to be intoxicated. I don't think these people have experimented enough with drugs or been drunk enough times to know. You can be drunk and still stand up. Anyways.

Looks like she maybe hears something or someone? Sticks her head out. If I was fearful I would have been a bit more discreet with sticking my head out and looking both ways. Maybe that's just me.

She then goes back inside and yes it looks like she is hiding in the corner. And when she goes to look outside the elevator again.. See that playful "hop" she does, jumping out of the elevator? Someone scared for their safety it's acting like that.

Then her weird stepping side and back, that seems like she is intoxicated. She steps outside and to the left, and after a moment, you can see her arm lift up to her head, stays there for 15 seconds before she walks back in the elevator you can see both hands on her head.

When she steps outside the elevator the next time she just looks like she is trippin balls. I think she was on something, intentionally or not.

How the door jumps when it is closing at 2:58 makes the video seem edited.
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Just to give my opinion after watching the video several times, reading and considering other peoples ideas.

It does appear to me that she is being playful at first, and not hiding from someone. When she walks in the elevator, and turns to the buttons, she does a bit of a spin with her arm up. It looks like a playful action.

She then stands back just standing there. I think she might be drunk or on a dissociative. I've seen several say she was too coherent to be intoxicated. I don't think these people have experimented enough with drugs or been drunk enough times to know. You can be drunk and still stand up. Anyways.

Looks like she maybe hears something or someone? Sticks her head out. If I was fearful I would have been a bit more discreet with sticking my head out and looking both ways. Maybe that's just me.

She then goes back inside and yes it looks like she is hiding in the corner. And when she goes to look outside the elevator again.. See that playful "hop" she does, jumping out of the elevator? Someone scared for their safety it's acting like that.

Then her weird stepping side and back, that seems like she is intoxicated. She steps outside and to the left, and after a moment, you can see her arm lift up to her head, stays there for 15 seconds before she walks back in the elevator you can see both hands on her head.

When she steps outside the elevator the next time she just looks like she is trippin balls. I think she was on something, intentionally or not.

How the door jumps when it is closing at 2:58 makes the video seem edited.
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Security cameras often stop recording when their is no activity, I think she was a schizophrenic introvert playing a game with her other half who convinced her to explore the roof and go for a swim in the water tank,sad!
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Just to give my opinion after watching the video several times, reading and considering other peoples ideas.

It does appear to me that she is being playful at first, and not hiding from someone. When she walks in the elevator, and turns to the buttons, she does a bit of a spin with her arm up. It looks like a playful action.

She then stands back just standing there. I think she might be drunk or on a dissociative. I've seen several say she was too coherent to be intoxicated. I don't think these people have experimented enough with drugs or been drunk enough times to know. You can be drunk and still stand up. Anyways.

Looks like she maybe hears something or someone? Sticks her head out. If I was fearful I would have been a bit more discreet with sticking my head out and looking both ways. Maybe that's just me.

She then goes back inside and yes it looks like she is hiding in the corner. And when she goes to look outside the elevator again.. See that playful "hop" she does, jumping out of the elevator? Someone scared for their safety it's acting like that.

Then her weird stepping side and back, that seems like she is intoxicated. She steps outside and to the left, and after a moment, you can see her arm lift up to her head, stays there for 15 seconds before she walks back in the elevator you can see both hands on her head.

When she steps outside the elevator the next time she just looks like she is trippin balls. I think she was on something, intentionally or not.

How the door jumps when it is closing at 2:58 makes the video seem edited.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35170895


Security cameras often stop recording when their is no activity, I think she was a schizophrenic introvert playing a game with her other half who convinced her to explore the roof and go for a swim in the water tank,sad!
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You're a fucking moron. The cameras don't stop recording. And the time and date can be seen continuing to move at the bottom of the screen. The whole point of security cameras is that they DON'T stop recording so that the police can go back and review what is recorded at exactly a specific time.

And your comment about her "other half" convincing her to explore the roof and go for a swim is laughably stupid.

Try again shill man.
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Not sure if this has been posted yet

[link to www.examiner.com]

CDC to investigate escalating Los Angeles tuberculosis outbreak among homeless (Video)


Apparently the test used to detect TB in humans is called a lam-elisa.
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Who is this test named after? I can't seem to find any info on that.
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First I seen the video and it is indeed wierd. What I got out of watching it was she intended to use the elevator, as it began to shut something stopped it and she heard whatever it was. It startled her and she peeked to see what it was. There is no doubt she must have had an encounter with whatever it was before this. She was scared enough to try to hide, but whatever it was already knew she was on the elevator. When she got the courage to look again she was spoken too and at that point she got off the elevator. It almost looked like she jumped off as if forced somehow. She is fighting the force and takes a step back into the elevator but finally gives in and walks out and to the left. She grabs her head when she is outside the elevator. This reminds me of the early signs of demonic possession. She walks back on the elevator disoriented and desparetly trying to get it to work. The camera is jumping looks like energy spikes. She walks back out and it looks like she is pleading with something. It almost looks like something is getting control of her and controling her hand, but she is fighting it and pleading still. She walks off to the left and looks braindead and not in control anymore. Elevator closes and opens a few times. I can see somekind of a mist inside the elevator. Something was in control of the elevator. To me this is a case of possession by something extremely powerful. Very scary and if the police cant find any good suspects with all the people in the hotel (witnesses) and video I will know it was a demon. Makes me want to go to church right now.
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Just to give my opinion after watching the video several times, reading and considering other peoples ideas.

It does appear to me that she is being playful at first, and not hiding from someone. When she walks in the elevator, and turns to the buttons, she does a bit of a spin with her arm up. It looks like a playful action.

She then stands back just standing there. I think she might be drunk or on a dissociative. I've seen several say she was too coherent to be intoxicated. I don't think these people have experimented enough with drugs or been drunk enough times to know. You can be drunk and still stand up. Anyways.

Looks like she maybe hears something or someone? Sticks her head out. If I was fearful I would have been a bit more discreet with sticking my head out and looking both ways. Maybe that's just me.

She then goes back inside and yes it looks like she is hiding in the corner. And when she goes to look outside the elevator again.. See that playful "hop" she does, jumping out of the elevator? Someone scared for their safety it's acting like that.

Then her weird stepping side and back, that seems like she is intoxicated. She steps outside and to the left, and after a moment, you can see her arm lift up to her head, stays there for 15 seconds before she walks back in the elevator you can see both hands on her head.

When she steps outside the elevator the next time she just looks like she is trippin balls. I think she was on something, intentionally or not.

How the door jumps when it is closing at 2:58 makes the video seem edited.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35170895


Security cameras often stop recording when their is no activity, I think she was a schizophrenic introvert playing a game with her other half who convinced her to explore the roof and go for a swim in the water tank,sad!
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At :11 into video the elevator doors start to close, then stop! I can see no hand on either side, yet something stopped it. A schizophrenic person cant use their mind to stop an elevator door from closing.
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Just to give my opinion after watching the video several times, reading and considering other peoples ideas.

It does appear to me that she is being playful at first, and not hiding from someone. When she walks in the elevator, and turns to the buttons, she does a bit of a spin with her arm up. It looks like a playful action.

She then stands back just standing there. I think she might be drunk or on a dissociative. I've seen several say she was too coherent to be intoxicated. I don't think these people have experimented enough with drugs or been drunk enough times to know. You can be drunk and still stand up. Anyways.

Looks like she maybe hears something or someone? Sticks her head out. If I was fearful I would have been a bit more discreet with sticking my head out and looking both ways. Maybe that's just me.

She then goes back inside and yes it looks like she is hiding in the corner. And when she goes to look outside the elevator again.. See that playful "hop" she does, jumping out of the elevator? Someone scared for their safety it's acting like that.

Then her weird stepping side and back, that seems like she is intoxicated. She steps outside and to the left, and after a moment, you can see her arm lift up to her head, stays there for 15 seconds before she walks back in the elevator you can see both hands on her head.

When she steps outside the elevator the next time she just looks like she is trippin balls. I think she was on something, intentionally or not.

How the door jumps when it is closing at 2:58 makes the video seem edited.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35170895


Security cameras often stop recording when their is no activity, I think she was a schizophrenic introvert playing a game with her other half who convinced her to explore the roof and go for a swim in the water tank,sad!
 Quoting: polyphemus75


At :11 into video the elevator doors start to close, then stop! I can see no hand on either side, yet something stopped it. A schizophrenic person cant use their mind to stop an elevator door from closing.
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... She pressed the door open button.
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Just to give my opinion after watching the video several times, reading and considering other peoples ideas.

It does appear to me that she is being playful at first, and not hiding from someone. When she walks in the elevator, and turns to the buttons, she does a bit of a spin with her arm up. It looks like a playful action.

She then stands back just standing there. I think she might be drunk or on a dissociative. I've seen several say she was too coherent to be intoxicated. I don't think these people have experimented enough with drugs or been drunk enough times to know. You can be drunk and still stand up. Anyways.

Looks like she maybe hears something or someone? Sticks her head out. If I was fearful I would have been a bit more discreet with sticking my head out and looking both ways. Maybe that's just me.

She then goes back inside and yes it looks like she is hiding in the corner. And when she goes to look outside the elevator again.. See that playful "hop" she does, jumping out of the elevator? Someone scared for their safety it's acting like that.

Then her weird stepping side and back, that seems like she is intoxicated. She steps outside and to the left, and after a moment, you can see her arm lift up to her head, stays there for 15 seconds before she walks back in the elevator you can see both hands on her head.

When she steps outside the elevator the next time she just looks like she is trippin balls. I think she was on something, intentionally or not.

How the door jumps when it is closing at 2:58 makes the video seem edited.
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Security cameras often stop recording when their is no activity, I think she was a schizophrenic introvert playing a game with her other half who convinced her to explore the roof and go for a swim in the water tank,sad!
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You are correct. She ran out of meds while traveling and that is literally what happened
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Page 12 someone makes an interesting point summing up exactly what i agree happened Elisa lam was interested in finding out about the cloaking technology.

Maybe Elisa Lam was actually a South Korean Citizen that came from North Korea!!! and was a North Korean spy and she was taken OUT by Wet Works US ASsasinations Division. She had to be silenced because she was snooping around the Cecil hotel which housed or was nearby The Invisible light agency which has a direct connection to Raytheon missile systems explained in my post on the previous page which was a quote from the original thread yesterday...


Thread: New Update what Media is not telling us ! - Elisa Lam case - please, take a look at this! i feel this should not be ignored. thank you. (Page 12)
its almost obivous

invisible light agency has a direct connection to Raytheon missle systems.

Raytheon recently gets contract to develop missle systems in south korea (saber rattling by north over it)

Richard is stationed right in south korea and has facebook friends who are microbiology engineering grads and work for south korean military.

Dog is the same dog in both Elisa and Richards sites (I can tell by the hair color around the eyes).

LAM elisa is a TB test

Invisible light agency is running OPS (with the help of CYN sex slave/maddam under-cover advertizing agency rep forr illuminati and smuggling bioweapons and raytheon developed cloaking technologies to a seedy hotel in LA that also is a hotbed of occult and devil worship (keep in mind richard rameriz was a satanist sereal killer)

It is ODD the elevator door doesnt close.. almost like it was planned.. almost like a secret agency who secretly runs the motel is in control of it.. IN control of everything that goes on at the 14th floor

god, ROSEMARYS baby comes to mind RIGHT NOW
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Just to give my opinion after watching the video several times, reading and considering other peoples ideas.

It does appear to me that she is being playful at first, and not hiding from someone. When she walks in the elevator, and turns to the buttons, she does a bit of a spin with her arm up. It looks like a playful action.

She then stands back just standing there. I think she might be drunk or on a dissociative. I've seen several say she was too coherent to be intoxicated. I don't think these people have experimented enough with drugs or been drunk enough times to know. You can be drunk and still stand up. Anyways.

Looks like she maybe hears something or someone? Sticks her head out. If I was fearful I would have been a bit more discreet with sticking my head out and looking both ways. Maybe that's just me.

She then goes back inside and yes it looks like she is hiding in the corner. And when she goes to look outside the elevator again.. See that playful "hop" she does, jumping out of the elevator? Someone scared for their safety it's acting like that.

Then her weird stepping side and back, that seems like she is intoxicated. She steps outside and to the left, and after a moment, you can see her arm lift up to her head, stays there for 15 seconds before she walks back in the elevator you can see both hands on her head.

When she steps outside the elevator the next time she just looks like she is trippin balls. I think she was on something, intentionally or not.

How the door jumps when it is closing at 2:58 makes the video seem edited.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35170895


Security cameras often stop recording when their is no activity, I think she was a schizophrenic introvert playing a game with her other half who convinced her to explore the roof and go for a swim in the water tank,sad!
 Quoting: polyphemus75


At :11 into video the elevator doors start to close, then stop! I can see no hand on either side, yet something stopped it. A schizophrenic person cant use their mind to stop an elevator door from closing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34059504


... She pressed the door open button.
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No she doesnt watch the long version right at :11 mark. As she steps back it begins to close then stops. She stands in back of elevator looking shook up about something.
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Where are pictures of the dogs for comparison...
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Security cameras often stop recording when their is no activity, I think she was a schizophrenic introvert playing a game with her other half who convinced her to explore the roof and go for a swim in the water tank,sad!
 Quoting: polyphemus75


At :11 into video the elevator doors start to close, then stop! I can see no hand on either side, yet something stopped it. A schizophrenic person cant use their mind to stop an elevator door from closing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34059504


... She pressed the door open button.
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No she doesnt watch the long version right at :11 mark. As she steps back it begins to close then stops. She stands in back of elevator looking shook up about something.
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She had just pressed it as the door was already about to open. These things aren't immediately responsive. Look at the picture, the door hold button is the bottom button she pressed immediately before stepping back.
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Just to give my opinion after watching the video several times, reading and considering other peoples ideas.

It does appear to me that she is being playful at first, and not hiding from someone. When she walks in the elevator, and turns to the buttons, she does a bit of a spin with her arm up. It looks like a playful action.

She then stands back just standing there. I think she might be drunk or on a dissociative. I've seen several say she was too coherent to be intoxicated. I don't think these people have experimented enough with drugs or been drunk enough times to know. You can be drunk and still stand up. Anyways.

Looks like she maybe hears something or someone? Sticks her head out. If I was fearful I would have been a bit more discreet with sticking my head out and looking both ways. Maybe that's just me.

She then goes back inside and yes it looks like she is hiding in the corner. And when she goes to look outside the elevator again.. See that playful "hop" she does, jumping out of the elevator? Someone scared for their safety it's acting like that.

Then her weird stepping side and back, that seems like she is intoxicated. She steps outside and to the left, and after a moment, you can see her arm lift up to her head, stays there for 15 seconds before she walks back in the elevator you can see both hands on her head.

When she steps outside the elevator the next time she just looks like she is trippin balls. I think she was on something, intentionally or not.

How the door jumps when it is closing at 2:58 makes the video seem edited.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35170895


Security cameras often stop recording when their is no activity, I think she was a schizophrenic introvert playing a game with her other half who convinced her to explore the roof and go for a swim in the water tank,sad!
 Quoting: polyphemus75


At :11 into video the elevator doors start to close, then stop! I can see no hand on either side, yet something stopped it. A schizophrenic person cant use their mind to stop an elevator door from closing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34059504


As one who takes multiple elevators per day I can tell you that is not unusual at all for an elevator door to do when it has a mechanical problem. I've seen it many times.

Oooooh maybe I was in an elevator multiple times with an invisible caped individual. AND I DIDN'T KNOW IT!!! Glad I didn't end up in a water tank with people drinking and showering with my remains!!!! scaredahhhgaspsiren2siren2siren2

The poor girl seems to be having mental problems and/or is on drugs.
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At :11 into video the elevator doors start to close, then stop! I can see no hand on either side, yet something stopped it. A schizophrenic person cant use their mind to stop an elevator door from closing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34059504


... She pressed the door open button.
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No she doesnt watch the long version right at :11 mark. As she steps back it begins to close then stops. She stands in back of elevator looking shook up about something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34059504


She had just pressed it as the door was already about to open. These things aren't immediately responsive. Look at the picture, the door hold button is the bottom button she pressed immediately before stepping back.
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Have to explain the camera spiking and the shadow, as well as the door opening and closing by itself after she walks away. Shit is weird!!
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well,
pretty much for _my own_ convenience,
a thread for all elevator-video-related discussions.

...feel free to go crazy !

hf

short version:

[link to www.youtube.com]

long version:
[link to www.youtube.com]
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VERY crazy.


Seems like she was under the influence of some kind of drug, possibly stimulants (amphetamine) as they make you paranoid and delusional.

Makes you REALLY wonder how the hell she got in that water tank. OBVIOUSLY its a homicide. Definitely a story behind this one.
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At :11 into video the elevator doors start to close, then stop! I can see no hand on either side, yet something stopped it. A schizophrenic person cant use their mind to stop an elevator door from closing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34059504


... She pressed the door open button.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35170895


No she doesnt watch the long version right at :11 mark. As she steps back it begins to close then stops. She stands in back of elevator looking shook up about something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34059504


She had just pressed it as the door was already about to open. These things aren't immediately responsive. Look at the picture, the door hold button is the bottom button she pressed immediately before stepping back.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35170895


You're a lying shill and you know it. She had stepped away from the controls and buttons before the door stopped closing. SO you are a SHILL.

Also the fact that she got scared shitless around the exact moment the door had ceased closing and had been held open. Is proof either that someone outside made a noise or held the elevator button.

Or that the invisible light agency cloaker special agent was holding the door open but you couldn't see them.

I'd say the latter somewhat likely considering she was investigating the invisible light agency since she had interest in it from an article she retweeted or talked about online about the quantum microwave cloak technology company in vancouver. Than she randomly shows up to the cecil hotel in LA where this invisible light agency is that is probably co-operating int he development of the cloaking technology.

Yeah right you area a shill and are the same kind of person who just thinks she killed herself in the water tank when really it was an assisination by the US Special ops Wet Works.
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Just to give my opinion after watching the video several times, reading and considering other peoples ideas.

It does appear to me that she is being playful at first, and not hiding from someone. When she walks in the elevator, and turns to the buttons, she does a bit of a spin with her arm up. It looks like a playful action.

She then stands back just standing there. I think she might be drunk or on a dissociative. I've seen several say she was too coherent to be intoxicated. I don't think these people have experimented enough with drugs or been drunk enough times to know. You can be drunk and still stand up. Anyways.

Looks like she maybe hears something or someone? Sticks her head out. If I was fearful I would have been a bit more discreet with sticking my head out and looking both ways. Maybe that's just me.

She then goes back inside and yes it looks like she is hiding in the corner. And when she goes to look outside the elevator again.. See that playful "hop" she does, jumping out of the elevator? Someone scared for their safety it's acting like that.

Then her weird stepping side and back, that seems like she is intoxicated. She steps outside and to the left, and after a moment, you can see her arm lift up to her head, stays there for 15 seconds before she walks back in the elevator you can see both hands on her head.

When she steps outside the elevator the next time she just looks like she is trippin balls. I think she was on something, intentionally or not.

How the door jumps when it is closing at 2:58 makes the video seem edited.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35170895


Security cameras often stop recording when their is no activity, I think she was a schizophrenic introvert playing a game with her other half who convinced her to explore the roof and go for a swim in the water tank,sad!
 Quoting: polyphemus75


At :11 into video the elevator doors start to close, then stop! I can see no hand on either side, yet something stopped it. A schizophrenic person cant use their mind to stop an elevator door from closing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34059504


As one who takes multiple elevators per day I can tell you that is not unusual at all for an elevator door to do when it has a mechanical problem. I've seen it many times.

Oooooh maybe I was in an elevator multiple times with an invisible caped individual. AND I DIDN'T KNOW IT!!! Glad I didn't end up in a water tank with people drinking and showering with my remains!!!! scaredahhhgaspsiren2siren2siren2

The poor girl seems to be having mental problems and/or is on drugs.
 Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain


Most people use elevators daily. I live on the 18th floor of an apartment complex so I know elevators can act up from time to time. I have never seen an intelligent elevator though. While she was there it did not open, after she leaves it opens and closes several times. Also if you factor in the whole chain of events the elevator and her behavior something is very off about it all.
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... She pressed the door open button.
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No she doesnt watch the long version right at :11 mark. As she steps back it begins to close then stops. She stands in back of elevator looking shook up about something.
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She had just pressed it as the door was already about to open. These things aren't immediately responsive. Look at the picture, the door hold button is the bottom button she pressed immediately before stepping back.
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You're a lying shill and you know it. She had stepped away from the controls and buttons before the door stopped closing. SO you are a SHILL.

Also the fact that she got scared shitless around the exact moment the door had ceased closing and had been held open. Is proof either that someone outside made a noise or held the elevator button.

Or that the invisible light agency cloaker special agent was holding the door open but you couldn't see them.

I'd say the latter somewhat likely considering she was investigating the invisible light agency since she had interest in it from an article she retweeted or talked about online about the quantum microwave cloak technology company in vancouver. Than she randomly shows up to the cecil hotel in LA where this invisible light agency is that is probably co-operating int he development of the cloaking technology.

Yeah right you area a shill and are the same kind of person who just thinks she killed herself in the water tank when really it was an assisination by the US Special ops Wet Works.
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Whether she got scared shitless at any moment is open to interpretation. I don't think she killed herself, but I think you are wrong.
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Security cameras often stop recording when their is no activity, I think she was a schizophrenic introvert playing a game with her other half who convinced her to explore the roof and go for a swim in the water tank,sad!
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At :11 into video the elevator doors start to close, then stop! I can see no hand on either side, yet something stopped it. A schizophrenic person cant use their mind to stop an elevator door from closing.
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As one who takes multiple elevators per day I can tell you that is not unusual at all for an elevator door to do when it has a mechanical problem. I've seen it many times.

Oooooh maybe I was in an elevator multiple times with an invisible caped individual. AND I DIDN'T KNOW IT!!! Glad I didn't end up in a water tank with people drinking and showering with my remains!!!! scaredahhhgaspsiren2siren2siren2

The poor girl seems to be having mental problems and/or is on drugs.
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Most people use elevators daily. I live on the 18th floor of an apartment complex so I know elevators can act up from time to time. I have never seen an intelligent elevator though. While she was there it did not open, after she leaves it opens and closes several times. Also if you factor in the whole chain of events the elevator and her behavior something is very off about it all.
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It simply opens and closes several times because once the door closes, it is going to all the floors she pressed. She pressed like 10 buttons and the door open button a million times. Because the elevator is acting shitty and the door stays open for a minute doesn't mean it is intelligent.
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If already said, my apologies. Perused this thread and didn't notice any posts similar.

She seems to press multiple button - maybe ten times or so with both hands...then during and at the end presses the button at the bottom - a door open and close buttom is usually at the bottom.

Could she have been using a specific code that would take the elevator to a specific floor, like a penthouse unite or something of the like? Or was she in a psychophrenic moment and believed something of the sort? She repeats this a second time as if it is intentional.

Or could she purposely be stalling the elevator, because she is waiting for someone to come?
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No she doesnt watch the long version right at :11 mark. As she steps back it begins to close then stops. She stands in back of elevator looking shook up about something.
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She had just pressed it as the door was already about to open. These things aren't immediately responsive. Look at the picture, the door hold button is the bottom button she pressed immediately before stepping back.
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You're a lying shill and you know it. She had stepped away from the controls and buttons before the door stopped closing. SO you are a SHILL.

Also the fact that she got scared shitless around the exact moment the door had ceased closing and had been held open. Is proof either that someone outside made a noise or held the elevator button.

Or that the invisible light agency cloaker special agent was holding the door open but you couldn't see them.

I'd say the latter somewhat likely considering she was investigating the invisible light agency since she had interest in it from an article she retweeted or talked about online about the quantum microwave cloak technology company in vancouver. Than she randomly shows up to the cecil hotel in LA where this invisible light agency is that is probably co-operating int he development of the cloaking technology.

Yeah right you area a shill and are the same kind of person who just thinks she killed herself in the water tank when really it was an assisination by the US Special ops Wet Works.
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Whether she got scared shitless at any moment is open to interpretation. I don't think she killed herself, but I think you are wrong.
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I still think it was a possession. Most advances in cloaking technology are happening at university levels. Its nothing special to make things invisible its just a matter of bending light. I think this kind of technology has been aound for awhile, and more than one country has it. To spy on old simple technology seems like a waster when if she wanted to learn about it she could have just went to mit or harvard or somewhere where they are doing experiments with bending light to make objects appear invisible. I just dont think this would be worth spying over. If you believe in evil spirits and such gotta consider possession. If you dont then I can see how you can blame it on her being crazy and/or on drugs and the whole elevator acting up was just coincidence.
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Her facebook has her named spelled as the tb test does Lam Elisa. She only has one friend , smelter, and the pic of Smelter has a girl in the background, an Asian girl. What I find odd is the second pic of smelter the emphasizes the girl in the background who looks like it could be Elisa.
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If already said, my apologies. Perused this thread and didn't notice any posts similar.

She seems to press multiple button - maybe ten times or so with both hands...then during and at the end presses the button at the bottom - a door open and close buttom is usually at the bottom.

Could she have been using a specific code that would take the elevator to a specific floor, like a penthouse unite or something of the like? Or was she in a psychophrenic moment and believed something of the sort? She repeats this a second time as if it is intentional.

Or could she purposely be stalling the elevator, because she is waiting for someone to come?
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That's exactly what I thought. Then she looks out to see if that person is coming.

To me she didn't look frightened at all.
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Just to give my opinion after watching the video several times, reading and considering other peoples ideas.

It does appear to me that she is being playful at first, and not hiding from someone. When she walks in the elevator, and turns to the buttons, she does a bit of a spin with her arm up. It looks like a playful action.

She then stands back just standing there. I think she might be drunk or on a dissociative. I've seen several say she was too coherent to be intoxicated. I don't think these people have experimented enough with drugs or been drunk enough times to know. You can be drunk and still stand up. Anyways.

Looks like she maybe hears something or someone? Sticks her head out. If I was fearful I would have been a bit more discreet with sticking my head out and looking both ways. Maybe that's just me.

She then goes back inside and yes it looks like she is hiding in the corner. And when she goes to look outside the elevator again.. See that playful "hop" she does, jumping out of the elevator? Someone scared for their safety it's acting like that.

Then her weird stepping side and back, that seems like she is intoxicated. She steps outside and to the left, and after a moment, you can see her arm lift up to her head, stays there for 15 seconds before she walks back in the elevator you can see both hands on her head.

When she steps outside the elevator the next time she just looks like she is trippin balls. I think she was on something, intentionally or not.

How the door jumps when it is closing at 2:58 makes the video seem edited.
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Security cameras often stop recording when their is no activity, I think she was a schizophrenic introvert playing a game with her other half who convinced her to explore the roof and go for a swim in the water tank,sad!
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At :11 into video the elevator doors start to close, then stop! I can see no hand on either side, yet something stopped it. A schizophrenic person cant use their mind to stop an elevator door from closing.
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... She pressed the door open button.
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Door open button would not keep those doors open that long.
There is no hand needed to old the door open either. All elevators have modes they operate in those modes can be controlled by those who have keys or technicians depending on the elevator type.

I believe this is the mode the elevator was put in that prevented it from operating for Elisa. It was released from that mode after she leaves off to the left and proceeds to function properly immediately, as if certain she was not coming back .

Independent service (ISC)
Independent service is a special service mode found on most elevators. It is activated by a key switch either inside the elevator itself or on a centralized control panel in the lobby. When an elevator is placed on independent service, it will no longer respond to hall calls. (In a bank of elevators, traffic is rerouted to the other elevators, while in a single elevator, the hall buttons are disabled). The elevator will remain parked on a floor with its doors open until a floor is selected and the door close button is held until the elevator starts to travel. Independent service is useful when transporting large goods or moving groups of people between certain floors.
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Just to give my opinion after watching the video several times, reading and considering other peoples ideas.

It does appear to me that she is being playful at first, and not hiding from someone. When she walks in the elevator, and turns to the buttons, she does a bit of a spin with her arm up. It looks like a playful action.

She then stands back just standing there. I think she might be drunk or on a dissociative. I've seen several say she was too coherent to be intoxicated. I don't think these people have experimented enough with drugs or been drunk enough times to know. You can be drunk and still stand up. Anyways.

Looks like she maybe hears something or someone? Sticks her head out. If I was fearful I would have been a bit more discreet with sticking my head out and looking both ways. Maybe that's just me.

She then goes back inside and yes it looks like she is hiding in the corner. And when she goes to look outside the elevator again.. See that playful "hop" she does, jumping out of the elevator? Someone scared for their safety it's acting like that.

Then her weird stepping side and back, that seems like she is intoxicated. She steps outside and to the left, and after a moment, you can see her arm lift up to her head, stays there for 15 seconds before she walks back in the elevator you can see both hands on her head.

When she steps outside the elevator the next time she just looks like she is trippin balls. I think she was on something, intentionally or not.

How the door jumps when it is closing at 2:58 makes the video seem edited.
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Security cameras often stop recording when their is no activity, I think she was a schizophrenic introvert playing a game with her other half who convinced her to explore the roof and go for a swim in the water tank,sad!
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You are correct. She ran out of meds while traveling and that is literally what happened
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If already said, my apologies. Perused this thread and didn't notice any posts similar.

She seems to press multiple button - maybe ten times or so with both hands...then during and at the end presses the button at the bottom - a door open and close buttom is usually at the bottom.

Could she have been using a specific code that would take the elevator to a specific floor, like a penthouse unite or something of the like? Or was she in a psychophrenic moment and believed something of the sort? She repeats this a second time as if it is intentional.

Or could she purposely be stalling the elevator, because she is waiting for someone to come?
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That's exactly what I thought. Then she looks out to see if that person is coming.

To me she didn't look frightened at all.
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Maybe she had heard of these? Elevator Hacks.

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