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### Elisa Lam - the elevator - video - discussion - thread ! ###

 
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Could the security person who was monitoring the camara also control the elevator door?
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phoenixe-please read attentively the quote below-it was posted by a one time user only on GLP, I checked-this is chilling, the details... let me know what you think, are we dealing here with the mur....

She met this man waiting for the elevator shortly after her arrival. He noticed her right off the bat. He watches the tourists come and go. The tourists stay on the first four floors. He loved the fact she was alone, plus she was different. He broke the ice by asking her why she's alone in such a questionable area of LA. She explained how she found the place on the internet and liked the history. She's not new to staying at hostels. He was glad only one elevator was working that week.

The man has charm and is funny, although he is older she likes him and his personality. He is a man of the streets. He reveals during this first encounter that he lives on the top floor of the motel and is adept at its history. She enjoys this. They part ways and he takes note of the fact she is interested in art and history.

The second morning of her stay she is in the motel lobby about to leave to pursue her itinerary of places she wants to see in LA. He had to hang around outside of the hotel before she came down but his judgement was correct, he thought he had missed her. She exits the motel and there he is with a warm, trusting smile. He is excited she smiles back at him. He told her that he gets up early to grab the paper. He shows her the art section and some interesting studios and historic places nearby that she might want to see. He lets her go although he would like to talk more. He is smart and has been in this situation before. He previously unnerved a young lady years ago that he was watching by being overly friendly. Take it slow he tells himself.

He decides not to follow her that day, it doesn't matter to him, he knows she will be back. He quickly goes back to his room on the 14th floor and opens the blinds to the LA streets down below. It's a perfect view. Years ago he purchased a decent spotting scope with a tripod at a sporting goods store. He puts his eye to the view finder and quickly scans the sidewalk in the direction she left for. He spots her at a bus stop. He watches her, he is getting aroused. He spends the rest of the day, like he usually does, masturbating furiously while watching young women through his scope.

It's going to be getting dark soon as he scans the street below looking for the oriental queen. There she is, he adjusts his scope and tracks her movements. He quickly scrambles his clothes on and heads out the door. He runs down the stairs to the lobby. He quit using the elevators unless he has to because of those pesky surveillance cameras. He timed it perfectly, she is not there yet. He strikes up a conversation with the hotel clerk to look preoccupied when she enters. Out of the corner of his eye the oriental queen enters and heads for the elevators. He turns his head as she passes and says "well, how'd it go today?". She smiles and says "great" and thanks him for telling her about a particular landmark she really enjoyed.

They walk together towards the elevator and he explains about a cool little art cafe that is a local hangout nearby and invites her to lunch the next day. She hesitates but he has learned to use that trusting smile. He has practiced this smile so much. She accepts! He is so pleased. The elevator doors opens and she enters but he does not. He tells her he has to go visit his mom in a nursing home and she likes that. He knows to never be seen together on those elevator cams. He holds the elevator button down while he explains to her that the cafe doesn't open until 2pm and he'll meet her outside the motel at about 1:30. She feels good, excited, she longs for friends, especially a cool guy from LA. He brandishes that trusting smile one more time while the elevator doors close.

She thinks about him that night laying in bed. He is handsome. She has explored her sexuality in the past but recently her body has been extremely desperate for that touch. He also thinks about her, but the thoughts are dark. He is a dark man inside. He dreams of screams. She dreams of a beautiful lake, crystal clear waters.

He noticed she put extra effort into how she looked that day when they met outside the hotel. His conversation was perfect during the date. He practiced everything he would say. He made her laugh hysterically while they were eating that she almost choked. She really likes him and is already thinking how her parents would react. So soon, she thought, a boyfriend? No, just a one time thing. She wouldn't tell anyone. No tumblr updates, no blog posts, nothing. This has to be a secret. She still cant believe that she invited him up to her room as they were walking back to the hotel. He convinces her to use the stairs to go up to her room because he doesn't trust the elevators. She slides her key into her room door lock, it makes an ominous noise, he smiles and jokes about ghosts on the 4th floor. They enter and immediately begin to make out. They are locked together as one when they fall on the bed. She can hardly believe that he is inside her. He is powerful, she compares her long time ex-boyfriend to him. They go on a sexual quest for hours, she has never felt this way before. His thrusts are deep and hard. They managed to break the sink while trying out different positions and cause a leak, they laugh about this. They are laying in bed exhausted when he invites her up to his room to check out his art collection. She agrees. He gives her his room number and tells her to meet him up there.

It's dark out now. She looks at her watch, almost 11. She almost doesn't go but her body is still tingling. She wants to explore him. She gets in the elevator and presses number 14. His room is down the hall, she finds it and knocks. The door opens and she melts at that smile. He pours a glass of Hausgemacht for her. She has never drank the green liquid before. It's the real deal. They talk and drink and he shows her some art pieces but unfortunately she found them disturbing. She is taken aback by his choice in art and studies the room. She doesn't like it. He jokes and says let me see your glasses you must not be seeing right this art is great. She giggles and gives them to him. An uneasy feeling sweeps through her. He notices this and goes to the kitchen area of his tiny residence and picks up the phone. "Why don't you come up boss" he says and hangs the phone up. She wants to leave now.

He tries to convince her to stay but she is already out of the door walking to the elevators. She is still friendly to him as he calls out to her from his doorway. She presses the elevator button. My glasses! Damn, maybe I shouldn't leave she thinks, I am overreacting. The elevator opens, she can't see the buttons and the green liquid is settling in now. She presses the middle row of buttons, she remembers the 4th floor is in the middle. She doesn't know that she hits the door open button. It's an older Otis elevator. When the door open button is pressed it will stay open until the door close or the call button is activated. Is he following me? She decides to use friendship as a defense and stomps out in a child like manner, almost flirtatious. No one is there. She hears a metal door close somewhere in the stairwell next to the elevator. She needs her glasses. She exits and stands next to the call button. No one is coming, she enters the elevator again and presses any buttons that she can feel. Nothing. She stands outside again when she notices his figure down the hall. She tells him that she can't see, pleads with him. He says nothing. Behind her the stairwell door opens. The Boss. He has a weapon.

They are aware of the camera in the elevator.
The boss tells her to step towards him. She obeys.
He is pure evil, he smiles as he presses the elevator button. The door closes.
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Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667.
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No she doesnt watch the long version right at :11 mark. As she steps back it begins to close then stops. She stands in back of elevator looking shook up about something.
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She had just pressed it as the door was already about to open. These things aren't immediately responsive. Look at the picture, the door hold button is the bottom button she pressed immediately before stepping back.
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You're a lying shill and you know it. She had stepped away from the controls and buttons before the door stopped closing. SO you are a SHILL.

Also the fact that she got scared shitless around the exact moment the door had ceased closing and had been held open. Is proof either that someone outside made a noise or held the elevator button.

Or that the invisible light agency cloaker special agent was holding the door open but you couldn't see them.

I'd say the latter somewhat likely considering she was investigating the invisible light agency since she had interest in it from an article she retweeted or talked about online about the quantum microwave cloak technology company in vancouver. Than she randomly shows up to the cecil hotel in LA where this invisible light agency is that is probably co-operating int he development of the cloaking technology.

Yeah right you area a shill and are the same kind of person who just thinks she killed herself in the water tank when really it was an assisination by the US Special ops Wet Works.
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Sloppy murder for Special Ops. Ya know? The body dumped in water tank on roof? Yah right... they would have completely eliminated her and any evidence of her if she were an operative and they control even a floor of the old Hotel Hell. It was an almost amateurish murder with a button pusher in the hall. She was on X. Her movements are choreographed and she is feeling a vibe and you are steady on your feet on X. 2 people involved, both from the Hell Hotel. LAPD are just being lazy as there is simply too much investigating to be done to solve this with the hundreds of rooms, guests, employees and permanent residents.

I think an employee was instrumental in the stalking/killing and the guilty parties likely bleached the roof weeks before the body was discovered, (3 weeks between last known communique and the discovery) thereby covering up the crime scene forensics and her scent.
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Most of your post is probably spot on. Except for the X. The bleach could have been used after the murder too or she was killed elsewhere in the hotel and dumped up there in a way that would leave no forensic evidence behind. Pretty accurate depiction of what most likely happened though.
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phoenixe-please read attentively the quote below-it was posted by a one time user only on GLP, I checked-this is chilling, the details... let me know what you think, are we dealing here with the mur....

She met this man waiting for the elevator shortly after her arrival. He noticed her right off the bat. He watches the tourists come and go. The tourists stay on the first four floors. He loved the fact she was alone, plus she was different. He broke the ice by asking her why she's alone in such a questionable area of LA. She explained how she found the place on the internet and liked the history. She's not new to staying at hostels. He was glad only one elevator was working that week.

The man has charm and is funny, although he is older she likes him and his personality. He is a man of the streets. He reveals during this first encounter that he lives on the top floor of the motel and is adept at its history. She enjoys this. They part ways and he takes note of the fact she is interested in art and history.

The second morning of her stay she is in the motel lobby about to leave to pursue her itinerary of places she wants to see in LA. He had to hang around outside of the hotel before she came down but his judgement was correct, he thought he had missed her. She exits the motel and there he is with a warm, trusting smile. He is excited she smiles back at him. He told her that he gets up early to grab the paper. He shows her the art section and some interesting studios and historic places nearby that she might want to see. He lets her go although he would like to talk more. He is smart and has been in this situation before. He previously unnerved a young lady years ago that he was watching by being overly friendly. Take it slow he tells himself.

He decides not to follow her that day, it doesn't matter to him, he knows she will be back. He quickly goes back to his room on the 14th floor and opens the blinds to the LA streets down below. It's a perfect view. Years ago he purchased a decent spotting scope with a tripod at a sporting goods store. He puts his eye to the view finder and quickly scans the sidewalk in the direction she left for. He spots her at a bus stop. He watches her, he is getting aroused. He spends the rest of the day, like he usually does, masturbating furiously while watching young women through his scope.

It's going to be getting dark soon as he scans the street below looking for the oriental queen. There she is, he adjusts his scope and tracks her movements. He quickly scrambles his clothes on and heads out the door. He runs down the stairs to the lobby. He quit using the elevators unless he has to because of those pesky surveillance cameras. He timed it perfectly, she is not there yet. He strikes up a conversation with the hotel clerk to look preoccupied when she enters. Out of the corner of his eye the oriental queen enters and heads for the elevators. He turns his head as she passes and says "well, how'd it go today?". She smiles and says "great" and thanks him for telling her about a particular landmark she really enjoyed.

They walk together towards the elevator and he explains about a cool little art cafe that is a local hangout nearby and invites her to lunch the next day. She hesitates but he has learned to use that trusting smile. He has practiced this smile so much. She accepts! He is so pleased. The elevator doors opens and she enters but he does not. He tells her he has to go visit his mom in a nursing home and she likes that. He knows to never be seen together on those elevator cams. He holds the elevator button down while he explains to her that the cafe doesn't open until 2pm and he'll meet her outside the motel at about 1:30. She feels good, excited, she longs for friends, especially a cool guy from LA. He brandishes that trusting smile one more time while the elevator doors close.

She thinks about him that night laying in bed. He is handsome. She has explored her sexuality in the past but recently her body has been extremely desperate for that touch. He also thinks about her, but the thoughts are dark. He is a dark man inside. He dreams of screams. She dreams of a beautiful lake, crystal clear waters.

He noticed she put extra effort into how she looked that day when they met outside the hotel. His conversation was perfect during the date. He practiced everything he would say. He made her laugh hysterically while they were eating that she almost choked. She really likes him and is already thinking how her parents would react. So soon, she thought, a boyfriend? No, just a one time thing. She wouldn't tell anyone. No tumblr updates, no blog posts, nothing. This has to be a secret. She still cant believe that she invited him up to her room as they were walking back to the hotel. He convinces her to use the stairs to go up to her room because he doesn't trust the elevators. She slides her key into her room door lock, it makes an ominous noise, he smiles and jokes about ghosts on the 4th floor. They enter and immediately begin to make out. They are locked together as one when they fall on the bed. She can hardly believe that he is inside her. He is powerful, she compares her long time ex-boyfriend to him. They go on a sexual quest for hours, she has never felt this way before. His thrusts are deep and hard. They managed to break the sink while trying out different positions and cause a leak, they laugh about this. They are laying in bed exhausted when he invites her up to his room to check out his art collection. She agrees. He gives her his room number and tells her to meet him up there.

It's dark out now. She looks at her watch, almost 11. She almost doesn't go but her body is still tingling. She wants to explore him. She gets in the elevator and presses number 14. His room is down the hall, she finds it and knocks. The door opens and she melts at that smile. He pours a glass of Hausgemacht for her. She has never drank the green liquid before. It's the real deal. They talk and drink and he shows her some art pieces but unfortunately she found them disturbing. She is taken aback by his choice in art and studies the room. She doesn't like it. He jokes and says let me see your glasses you must not be seeing right this art is great. She giggles and gives them to him. An uneasy feeling sweeps through her. He notices this and goes to the kitchen area of his tiny residence and picks up the phone. "Why don't you come up boss" he says and hangs the phone up. She wants to leave now.

He tries to convince her to stay but she is already out of the door walking to the elevators. She is still friendly to him as he calls out to her from his doorway. She presses the elevator button. My glasses! Damn, maybe I shouldn't leave she thinks, I am overreacting. The elevator opens, she can't see the buttons and the green liquid is settling in now. She presses the middle row of buttons, she remembers the 4th floor is in the middle. She doesn't know that she hits the door open button. It's an older Otis elevator. When the door open button is pressed it will stay open until the door close or the call button is activated. Is he following me? She decides to use friendship as a defense and stomps out in a child like manner, almost flirtatious. No one is there. She hears a metal door close somewhere in the stairwell next to the elevator. She needs her glasses. She exits and stands next to the call button. No one is coming, she enters the elevator again and presses any buttons that she can feel. Nothing. She stands outside again when she notices his figure down the hall. She tells him that she can't see, pleads with him. He says nothing. Behind her the stairwell door opens. The Boss. He has a weapon.

They are aware of the camera in the elevator.
The boss tells her to step towards him. She obeys.
He is pure evil, he smiles as he presses the elevator button. The door closes.
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Thread: Elisa Lam - My Oriental Queen - Final discussion
 Quoting: Aristide Torchia

Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667.
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phoenixe-please read attentively the quote below-it was posted by a one time user only on GLP, I checked-this is chilling, the details... let me know what you think, are we dealing here with the mur....

She met this man waiting for the elevator shortly after her arrival. He noticed her right off the bat. He watches the tourists come and go. The tourists stay on the first four floors. He loved the fact she was alone, plus she was different. He broke the ice by asking her why she's alone in such a questionable area of LA. She explained how she found the place on the internet and liked the history. She's not new to staying at hostels. He was glad only one elevator was working that week.

The man has charm and is funny, although he is older she likes him and his personality. He is a man of the streets. He reveals during this first encounter that he lives on the top floor of the motel and is adept at its history. She enjoys this. They part ways and he takes note of the fact she is interested in art and history.

The second morning of her stay she is in the motel lobby about to leave to pursue her itinerary of places she wants to see in LA. He had to hang around outside of the hotel before she came down but his judgement was correct, he thought he had missed her. She exits the motel and there he is with a warm, trusting smile. He is excited she smiles back at him. He told her that he gets up early to grab the paper. He shows her the art section and some interesting studios and historic places nearby that she might want to see. He lets her go although he would like to talk more. He is smart and has been in this situation before. He previously unnerved a young lady years ago that he was watching by being overly friendly. Take it slow he tells himself.

He decides not to follow her that day, it doesn't matter to him, he knows she will be back. He quickly goes back to his room on the 14th floor and opens the blinds to the LA streets down below. It's a perfect view. Years ago he purchased a decent spotting scope with a tripod at a sporting goods store. He puts his eye to the view finder and quickly scans the sidewalk in the direction she left for. He spots her at a bus stop. He watches her, he is getting aroused. He spends the rest of the day, like he usually does, masturbating furiously while watching young women through his scope.

It's going to be getting dark soon as he scans the street below looking for the oriental queen. There she is, he adjusts his scope and tracks her movements. He quickly scrambles his clothes on and heads out the door. He runs down the stairs to the lobby. He quit using the elevators unless he has to because of those pesky surveillance cameras. He timed it perfectly, she is not there yet. He strikes up a conversation with the hotel clerk to look preoccupied when she enters. Out of the corner of his eye the oriental queen enters and heads for the elevators. He turns his head as she passes and says "well, how'd it go today?". She smiles and says "great" and thanks him for telling her about a particular landmark she really enjoyed.

They walk together towards the elevator and he explains about a cool little art cafe that is a local hangout nearby and invites her to lunch the next day. She hesitates but he has learned to use that trusting smile. He has practiced this smile so much. She accepts! He is so pleased. The elevator doors opens and she enters but he does not. He tells her he has to go visit his mom in a nursing home and she likes that. He knows to never be seen together on those elevator cams. He holds the elevator button down while he explains to her that the cafe doesn't open until 2pm and he'll meet her outside the motel at about 1:30. She feels good, excited, she longs for friends, especially a cool guy from LA. He brandishes that trusting smile one more time while the elevator doors close.

She thinks about him that night laying in bed. He is handsome. She has explored her sexuality in the past but recently her body has been extremely desperate for that touch. He also thinks about her, but the thoughts are dark. He is a dark man inside. He dreams of screams. She dreams of a beautiful lake, crystal clear waters.

He noticed she put extra effort into how she looked that day when they met outside the hotel. His conversation was perfect during the date. He practiced everything he would say. He made her laugh hysterically while they were eating that she almost choked. She really likes him and is already thinking how her parents would react. So soon, she thought, a boyfriend? No, just a one time thing. She wouldn't tell anyone. No tumblr updates, no blog posts, nothing. This has to be a secret. She still cant believe that she invited him up to her room as they were walking back to the hotel. He convinces her to use the stairs to go up to her room because he doesn't trust the elevators. She slides her key into her room door lock, it makes an ominous noise, he smiles and jokes about ghosts on the 4th floor. They enter and immediately begin to make out. They are locked together as one when they fall on the bed. She can hardly believe that he is inside her. He is powerful, she compares her long time ex-boyfriend to him. They go on a sexual quest for hours, she has never felt this way before. His thrusts are deep and hard. They managed to break the sink while trying out different positions and cause a leak, they laugh about this. They are laying in bed exhausted when he invites her up to his room to check out his art collection. She agrees. He gives her his room number and tells her to meet him up there.

It's dark out now. She looks at her watch, almost 11. She almost doesn't go but her body is still tingling. She wants to explore him. She gets in the elevator and presses number 14. His room is down the hall, she finds it and knocks. The door opens and she melts at that smile. He pours a glass of Hausgemacht for her. She has never drank the green liquid before. It's the real deal. They talk and drink and he shows her some art pieces but unfortunately she found them disturbing. She is taken aback by his choice in art and studies the room. She doesn't like it. He jokes and says let me see your glasses you must not be seeing right this art is great. She giggles and gives them to him. An uneasy feeling sweeps through her. He notices this and goes to the kitchen area of his tiny residence and picks up the phone. "Why don't you come up boss" he says and hangs the phone up. She wants to leave now.

He tries to convince her to stay but she is already out of the door walking to the elevators. She is still friendly to him as he calls out to her from his doorway. She presses the elevator button. My glasses! Damn, maybe I shouldn't leave she thinks, I am overreacting. The elevator opens, she can't see the buttons and the green liquid is settling in now. She presses the middle row of buttons, she remembers the 4th floor is in the middle. She doesn't know that she hits the door open button. It's an older Otis elevator. When the door open button is pressed it will stay open until the door close or the call button is activated. Is he following me? She decides to use friendship as a defense and stomps out in a child like manner, almost flirtatious. No one is there. She hears a metal door close somewhere in the stairwell next to the elevator. She needs her glasses. She exits and stands next to the call button. No one is coming, she enters the elevator again and presses any buttons that she can feel. Nothing. She stands outside again when she notices his figure down the hall. She tells him that she can't see, pleads with him. He says nothing. Behind her the stairwell door opens. The Boss. He has a weapon.

They are aware of the camera in the elevator.
The boss tells her to step towards him. She obeys.
He is pure evil, he smiles as he presses the elevator button. The door closes.
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 Quoting: Aristide Torchia


No. She was definitely hiding in the elevator.
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No that is a diversion. The real issue here is the strange coincidence involving the invisiblity technology and the facility that helps produce it being located so close or inside the hotel.

Whilst this girl tweeted about this technology being developed with quantum microwaves in Vancouver.

And then the other article saying the South Koreans and US were collaborating to create invisibility cloaks.

That is the real issue here.

The rest is dis-info.

She was murdered by the invisible cloaker technology and they don't want people to know its real and in use by the US Army or special agents.
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bump
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ok... so this agrees with my other thread and the findings we made. well. that´ll explain the shill-attack as well ..

honestly, i am quite glad that at least some of you here don´t think this theory is "impossible"... thank you.
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This site is full of such ridiculous retards... stealth technology, invisible people....unreal.

You all watch too much tv and movies. You have lost touch with reality. Thats why you are so easy to control. So easily distracted and led to believe fantasy bullshit.

That woman was clearly drunk or high. She either killed herself somehow or some piece of shit saw she was vulnerable and then probably raped and killed her.

But no...it was the reptilian shadow people using alien technology from the hidden planet controlled by jews. That sounds more reasonable.

Idiots.
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shilling much? before calling us idiots, read the other thread. this is all real. even if it´s not used in that case, this technology exists. feel free to educate yourself, it´s all with links in the other thread of mine.
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phoenixe-please read attentively the quote below-it was posted by a one time user only on GLP, I checked-this is chilling, the details... let me know what you think, are we dealing here with the mur....

She met this man waiting for the elevator shortly after her arrival. He noticed her right off the bat. He watches the tourists come and go. The tourists stay on the first four floors. He loved the fact she was alone, plus she was different. He broke the ice by asking her why she's alone in such a questionable area of LA. She explained how she found the place on the internet and liked the history. She's not new to staying at hostels. He was glad only one elevator was working that week.

The man has charm and is funny, although he is older she likes him and his personality. He is a man of the streets. He reveals during this first encounter that he lives on the top floor of the motel and is adept at its history. She enjoys this. They part ways and he takes note of the fact she is interested in art and history.

The second morning of her stay she is in the motel lobby about to leave to pursue her itinerary of places she wants to see in LA. He had to hang around outside of the hotel before she came down but his judgement was correct, he thought he had missed her. She exits the motel and there he is with a warm, trusting smile. He is excited she smiles back at him. He told her that he gets up early to grab the paper. He shows her the art section and some interesting studios and historic places nearby that she might want to see. He lets her go although he would like to talk more. He is smart and has been in this situation before. He previously unnerved a young lady years ago that he was watching by being overly friendly. Take it slow he tells himself.

He decides not to follow her that day, it doesn't matter to him, he knows she will be back. He quickly goes back to his room on the 14th floor and opens the blinds to the LA streets down below. It's a perfect view. Years ago he purchased a decent spotting scope with a tripod at a sporting goods store. He puts his eye to the view finder and quickly scans the sidewalk in the direction she left for. He spots her at a bus stop. He watches her, he is getting aroused. He spends the rest of the day, like he usually does, masturbating furiously while watching young women through his scope.

It's going to be getting dark soon as he scans the street below looking for the oriental queen. There she is, he adjusts his scope and tracks her movements. He quickly scrambles his clothes on and heads out the door. He runs down the stairs to the lobby. He quit using the elevators unless he has to because of those pesky surveillance cameras. He timed it perfectly, she is not there yet. He strikes up a conversation with the hotel clerk to look preoccupied when she enters. Out of the corner of his eye the oriental queen enters and heads for the elevators. He turns his head as she passes and says "well, how'd it go today?". She smiles and says "great" and thanks him for telling her about a particular landmark she really enjoyed.

They walk together towards the elevator and he explains about a cool little art cafe that is a local hangout nearby and invites her to lunch the next day. She hesitates but he has learned to use that trusting smile. He has practiced this smile so much. She accepts! He is so pleased. The elevator doors opens and she enters but he does not. He tells her he has to go visit his mom in a nursing home and she likes that. He knows to never be seen together on those elevator cams. He holds the elevator button down while he explains to her that the cafe doesn't open until 2pm and he'll meet her outside the motel at about 1:30. She feels good, excited, she longs for friends, especially a cool guy from LA. He brandishes that trusting smile one more time while the elevator doors close.

She thinks about him that night laying in bed. He is handsome. She has explored her sexuality in the past but recently her body has been extremely desperate for that touch. He also thinks about her, but the thoughts are dark. He is a dark man inside. He dreams of screams. She dreams of a beautiful lake, crystal clear waters.

He noticed she put extra effort into how she looked that day when they met outside the hotel. His conversation was perfect during the date. He practiced everything he would say. He made her laugh hysterically while they were eating that she almost choked. She really likes him and is already thinking how her parents would react. So soon, she thought, a boyfriend? No, just a one time thing. She wouldn't tell anyone. No tumblr updates, no blog posts, nothing. This has to be a secret. She still cant believe that she invited him up to her room as they were walking back to the hotel. He convinces her to use the stairs to go up to her room because he doesn't trust the elevators. She slides her key into her room door lock, it makes an ominous noise, he smiles and jokes about ghosts on the 4th floor. They enter and immediately begin to make out. They are locked together as one when they fall on the bed. She can hardly believe that he is inside her. He is powerful, she compares her long time ex-boyfriend to him. They go on a sexual quest for hours, she has never felt this way before. His thrusts are deep and hard. They managed to break the sink while trying out different positions and cause a leak, they laugh about this. They are laying in bed exhausted when he invites her up to his room to check out his art collection. She agrees. He gives her his room number and tells her to meet him up there.

It's dark out now. She looks at her watch, almost 11. She almost doesn't go but her body is still tingling. She wants to explore him. She gets in the elevator and presses number 14. His room is down the hall, she finds it and knocks. The door opens and she melts at that smile. He pours a glass of Hausgemacht for her. She has never drank the green liquid before. It's the real deal. They talk and drink and he shows her some art pieces but unfortunately she found them disturbing. She is taken aback by his choice in art and studies the room. She doesn't like it. He jokes and says let me see your glasses you must not be seeing right this art is great. She giggles and gives them to him. An uneasy feeling sweeps through her. He notices this and goes to the kitchen area of his tiny residence and picks up the phone. "Why don't you come up boss" he says and hangs the phone up. She wants to leave now.

He tries to convince her to stay but she is already out of the door walking to the elevators. She is still friendly to him as he calls out to her from his doorway. She presses the elevator button. My glasses! Damn, maybe I shouldn't leave she thinks, I am overreacting. The elevator opens, she can't see the buttons and the green liquid is settling in now. She presses the middle row of buttons, she remembers the 4th floor is in the middle. She doesn't know that she hits the door open button. It's an older Otis elevator. When the door open button is pressed it will stay open until the door close or the call button is activated. Is he following me? She decides to use friendship as a defense and stomps out in a child like manner, almost flirtatious. No one is there. She hears a metal door close somewhere in the stairwell next to the elevator. She needs her glasses. She exits and stands next to the call button. No one is coming, she enters the elevator again and presses any buttons that she can feel. Nothing. She stands outside again when she notices his figure down the hall. She tells him that she can't see, pleads with him. He says nothing. Behind her the stairwell door opens. The Boss. He has a weapon.

They are aware of the camera in the elevator.
The boss tells her to step towards him. She obeys.
He is pure evil, he smiles as he presses the elevator button. The door closes.
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CREEPY!
"Just as you may have been born into a religion, so was Jesus. Like many peep, he looked *outside* that structured belief system for answers; the result of that became his teachings. Those original teachings were edited out of what you think of as the Bible. That which didn't scare people did not serve the church & its agenda"
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phoenixe-please read attentively the quote below-it was posted by a one time user only on GLP, I checked-this is chilling, the details... let me know what you think, are we dealing here with the mur....

She met this man waiting for the elevator shortly after her arrival.(...) She obeys.
He is pure evil, he smiles as he presses the elevator button. The door closes.
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..don´t really know what to say.
could be, maybe - maybe not. i do get no "feeling" out of this story, much different to some other "findings" over the last days, and i usually trust my belly feeling.
maybe just someone who is good in making stories up.
but of course someone with "phantasies" (i am using the ph here on purpose..).
GLP is a place where many weird people come to and like to play tricks to each another.
if he was/is the one we´re looking for, i wonder why he/she posted this on GLP only.
there are many other forums out there discussing this as well.

for now, as this user didn´t post anything or answers questions and likes to stay "mysterious", i really don´t know what to make out of it. maybe just another distraction to attract users, as this sounds "real". but i doubt it is.
wonder if and when the sequel of this story gets posted...
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phoenixe-please read attentively the quote below-it was posted by a one time user only on GLP, I checked-this is chilling, the details... let me know what you think, are we dealing here with the mur....

She met this man waiting for the elevator shortly after her arrival.(...) She obeys.
He is pure evil, he smiles as he presses the elevator button. The door closes.
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..don´t really know what to say.
could be, maybe - maybe not. i do get no "feeling" out of this story, much different to some other "findings" over the last days, and i usually trust my belly feeling.
maybe just someone who is good in making stories up.
but of course someone with "phantasies" (i am using the ph here on purpose..).
GLP is a place where many weird people come to and like to play tricks to each another.
if he was/is the one we´re looking for, i wonder why he/she posted this on GLP only.
there are many other forums out there discussing this as well.

for now, as this user didn´t post anything or answers questions and likes to stay "mysterious", i really don´t know what to make out of it. maybe just another distraction to attract users, as this sounds "real". but i doubt it is.
wonder if and when the sequel of this story gets posted...
 Quoting: phoenixe


Thanks-Note he uses a very particular word for his beverage "Hausgemacht"-the killer may be German (if it's him!!!)
Also, check this video-many new info
[link to www.youtube.com]
Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667.
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phoenixe-please read attentively the quote below-it was posted by a one time user only on GLP, I checked-this is chilling, the details... let me know what you think, are we dealing here with the mur....

She met this man waiting for the elevator shortly after her arrival.(...) She obeys.
He is pure evil, he smiles as he presses the elevator button. The door closes.
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..don´t really know what to say.
could be, maybe - maybe not. i do get no "feeling" out of this story, much different to some other "findings" over the last days, and i usually trust my belly feeling.
maybe just someone who is good in making stories up.
but of course someone with "phantasies" (i am using the ph here on purpose..).
GLP is a place where many weird people come to and like to play tricks to each another.
if he was/is the one we´re looking for, i wonder why he/she posted this on GLP only.
there are many other forums out there discussing this as well.

for now, as this user didn´t post anything or answers questions and likes to stay "mysterious", i really don´t know what to make out of it. maybe just another distraction to attract users, as this sounds "real". but i doubt it is.
wonder if and when the sequel of this story gets posted...
 Quoting: phoenixe


Thanks-Note he uses a very particular word for his beverage "Hausgemacht"-the killer may be German (if it's him!!!)
Also, check this video-many new info
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Aristide Torchia


there´s many americans with german ancestors i suppose.. but it would fit in the picture..

maybe richard schmelter is just messing with us and made up that story as AC and posted it here..?

maybe not. i really don´t know.

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phoenixe-please read attentively the quote below-it was posted by a one time user only on GLP, I checked-this is chilling, the details... let me know what you think, are we dealing here with the mur....

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..don´t really know what to say.
could be, maybe - maybe not. i do get no "feeling" out of this story, much different to some other "findings" over the last days, and i usually trust my belly feeling.
maybe just someone who is good in making stories up.
but of course someone with "phantasies" (i am using the ph here on purpose..).
GLP is a place where many weird people come to and like to play tricks to each another.
if he was/is the one we´re looking for, i wonder why he/she posted this on GLP only.
there are many other forums out there discussing this as well.

for now, as this user didn´t post anything or answers questions and likes to stay "mysterious", i really don´t know what to make out of it. maybe just another distraction to attract users, as this sounds "real". but i doubt it is.
wonder if and when the sequel of this story gets posted...
 Quoting: phoenixe


Thanks-Note he uses a very particular word for his beverage "Hausgemacht"-the killer may be German (if it's him!!!)
Also, check this video-many new info
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Aristide Torchia


there´s many americans with german ancestors i suppose.. but it would fit in the picture, as he is german ancestors as well...

would be quite interesting if he was in south korea at that time EL was reported missing.
last public fb post of him was on the 14th..
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"Hausgemacht" means homemade in German (his homemade drink-this man is German definitively - a US citizen would not say that...if of course he's the killer or accomplice....
Torchia was born in 1620. He was apprenticed in Leyden under the Elzevir family. After returning to Venice he published small works on philosophical and esoteric themes. In 1666, Torchia published De Umbrarum Regni Novem Portis (The Nine Doors to the Kingdom of Shadows), which was in turn based on the Delomelanicon, or Invocation of Darkness, a work supposedly written by Lucifer and that would allow the reader to summon devils. The Inquisition condemned Torchia for magic and witchcraft and burned him at the stake in 1667.
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That's the first time I've watched that film and it looks legit!
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That's the first time I've watched that film and it looks legit!
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no,the film isn´t legit.
it´s edited (fake frames inserted)
and it does not show time/date (pixled out).
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phoenixe-please read attentively the quote below-it was posted by a one time user only on GLP, I checked-this is chilling, the details... let me know what you think, are we dealing here with the mur....

She met this man waiting for the elevator shortly after her arrival.(...) She obeys.
He is pure evil, he smiles as he presses the elevator button. The door closes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31191261


Link to the original post:
Thread: Elisa Lam - My Oriental Queen - Final discussion
 Quoting: Aristide Torchia


..don´t really know what to say.
could be, maybe - maybe not. i do get no "feeling" out of this story, much different to some other "findings" over the last days, and i usually trust my belly feeling.
maybe just someone who is good in making stories up.
but of course someone with "phantasies" (i am using the ph here on purpose..).
GLP is a place where many weird people come to and like to play tricks to each another.
if he was/is the one we´re looking for, i wonder why he/she posted this on GLP only.
there are many other forums out there discussing this as well.

for now, as this user didn´t post anything or answers questions and likes to stay "mysterious", i really don´t know what to make out of it. maybe just another distraction to attract users, as this sounds "real". but i doubt it is.
wonder if and when the sequel of this story gets posted...
 Quoting: phoenixe


wow your pretty obsessed with this. Was she a friend of yours?Why the fixation? Im super suspicious, thousands of crimes committed in LA alone on any given year and you fixate on this one.I watch too many crime shows on tv.How do we know you are not trying to lead investigators away from what really happened? Ive heard of crazier things.
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wow your pretty obsessed with this. Was she a friend of yours?Why the fixation? Im super suspicious, thousands of crimes committed in LA alone on any given year and you fixate on this one.I watch too many crime shows on tv.How do we know you are not trying to lead investigators away from what really happened? Ive heard of crazier things.
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well, i don´t really know why i am attracted to that case.
maybe because i can relate to a young woman travelling alone and meeting people she only knew via internet.
i am not that "important" to be able to lead investigators anywhere, and there are many other threads on other forums speculating about this case around on the web, so i suppose you put too much into me/my abilities.
maybe you´re just shilling, don´t know.
and yes, me has heard crazier things as well, but this case screams "conspiracy", yet it get´s not much attention on here.
don´t know what to make of it at all, but for me it´s quite more interesting than "sandy hook", for example.
if you´re not interested, you mustn´t read threads about that case, and moreover not comment them, as this is a bit of an effort, too, i would say?
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So I place enhanced video for youtube, Swap UV, motion capture, not-so-scary: [link to www.youtube.com] Search for shadows, if you want.
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Am I correct in saying that the white arrows that flash up show motion?
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Yes, but by computing pixels, so it catches luminosity and shadows changing. Most is just CCTV matrix artifacts, but people here interested in shadows, so..
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So I place enhanced video for youtube, Swap UV, motion capture, not-so-scary: [link to www.youtube.com] Search for shadows, if you want.
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Am I correct in saying that the white arrows that flash up show motion?
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Yes, but by computing pixels, so it catches luminosity and shadows changing. Most is just CCTV matrix artifacts, but people here interested in shadows, so..
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just wanted to say a heartfelt thank you for doing all that video stuff for us ! really appreciated ;)
hf
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Security cameras often stop recording when their is no activity, I think she was a schizophrenic introvert playing a game with her other half who convinced her to explore the roof and go for a swim in the water tank,sad!
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At :11 into video the elevator doors start to close, then stop! I can see no hand on either side, yet something stopped it. A schizophrenic person cant use their mind to stop an elevator door from closing.
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... She pressed the door open button.
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Door open button would not keep those doors open that long.
There is no hand needed to old the door open either. All elevators have modes they operate in those modes can be controlled by those who have keys or technicians depending on the elevator type.

I believe this is the mode the elevator was put in that prevented it from operating for Elisa. It was released from that mode after she leaves off to the left and proceeds to function properly immediately, as if certain she was not coming back .

Independent service (ISC)
Independent service is a special service mode found on most elevators. It is activated by a key switch either inside the elevator itself or on a centralized control panel in the lobby. When an elevator is placed on independent service, it will no longer respond to hall calls. (In a bank of elevators, traffic is rerouted to the other elevators, while in a single elevator, the hall buttons are disabled). The elevator will remain parked on a floor with its doors open until a floor is selected and the door close button is held until the elevator starts to travel. Independent service is useful when transporting large goods or moving groups of people between certain floors.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Yes you are correct people watching from the security room were controlling the door from their remote location
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At :11 into video the elevator doors start to close, then stop! I can see no hand on either side, yet something stopped it. A schizophrenic person cant use their mind to stop an elevator door from closing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34059504


... She pressed the door open button.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35170895


Door open button would not keep those doors open that long.
There is no hand needed to old the door open either. All elevators have modes they operate in those modes can be controlled by those who have keys or technicians depending on the elevator type.

I believe this is the mode the elevator was put in that prevented it from operating for Elisa. It was released from that mode after she leaves off to the left and proceeds to function properly immediately, as if certain she was not coming back .

Independent service (ISC)
Independent service is a special service mode found on most elevators. It is activated by a key switch either inside the elevator itself or on a centralized control panel in the lobby. When an elevator is placed on independent service, it will no longer respond to hall calls. (In a bank of elevators, traffic is rerouted to the other elevators, while in a single elevator, the hall buttons are disabled). The elevator will remain parked on a floor with its doors open until a floor is selected and the door close button is held until the elevator starts to travel. Independent service is useful when transporting large goods or moving groups of people between certain floors.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35141854


Yes you are correct people watching from the security room were controlling the door from their remote location
 Quoting: Shakespeare 13616808


It's the only thing that would explain the elevators behavior. Not only would it not operate for her the whole time it also wasn't called away by anyone else's attempt to use it. It started working correctly as soon as she was gone.
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wow your pretty obsessed with this. Was she a friend of yours?Why the fixation? Im super suspicious, thousands of crimes committed in LA alone on any given year and you fixate on this one.I watch too many crime shows on tv.How do we know you are not trying to lead investigators away from what really happened? Ive heard of crazier things.
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well, i don´t really know why i am attracted to that case.
maybe because i can relate to a young woman travelling alone and meeting people she only knew via internet.
i am not that "important" to be able to lead investigators anywhere, and there are many other threads on other forums speculating about this case around on the web, so i suppose you put too much into me/my abilities.
maybe you´re just shilling, don´t know.
and yes, me has heard crazier things as well, but this case screams "conspiracy", yet it get´s not much attention on here.
don´t know what to make of it at all, but for me it´s quite more interesting than "sandy hook", for example.
if you´re not interested, you mustn´t read threads about that case, and moreover not comment them, as this is a bit of an effort, too, i would say?
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Please disregard the flip'n Troll OP and do carry on,...I know I will.

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anyone has any link to the video from earlier than Feb 13/14th ?

if you have, please post. thank you! :)
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Am I the only one that sees a mothman in the elevator after she steps out?
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Am I the only one that sees a mothman in the elevator after she steps out?
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i don´t know what a mothman is, but if it´s something in a grey hoody - no, you aren´t.
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Nonverbal Communication Analysis # 2313:
Elisa Lam Video in Elevator at Cecil Hotel -
What Her Body Language Tells Us ....


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Nonverbal Communication Analysis # 2313:
Elisa Lam Video in Elevator at Cecil Hotel -
What Her Body Language Tells Us ....


[link to www.bodylanguagesuccess.com]
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 Quoting: phoenixe



That's pretty interesting.


First impressions are important to me though.


I got the impression indeed that games were being played... and however playful it may have seemed at the time I truly believe she did have an uncertainty as to her personal safety. These are the little signs we have to pay attention to as humans to keep ourselves out of harm's way.


But I feel that her curiosity toward the person got the best of her.


VERY puzzling. Who the fuck was it?
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At :11 into video the elevator doors start to close, then stop! I can see no hand on either side, yet something stopped it. A schizophrenic person cant use their mind to stop an elevator door from closing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34059504


... She pressed the door open button.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35170895


Door open button would not keep those doors open that long.
There is no hand needed to old the door open either. All elevators have modes they operate in those modes can be controlled by those who have keys or technicians depending on the elevator type.

I believe this is the mode the elevator was put in that prevented it from operating for Elisa. It was released from that mode after she leaves off to the left and proceeds to function properly immediately, as if certain she was not coming back .

Independent service (ISC)
Independent service is a special service mode found on most elevators. It is activated by a key switch either inside the elevator itself or on a centralized control panel in the lobby. When an elevator is placed on independent service, it will no longer respond to hall calls. (In a bank of elevators, traffic is rerouted to the other elevators, while in a single elevator, the hall buttons are disabled). The elevator will remain parked on a floor with its doors open until a floor is selected and the door close button is held until the elevator starts to travel. Independent service is useful when transporting large goods or moving groups of people between certain floors.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Yes you are correct people watching from the security room were controlling the door from their remote location
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wow
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great find by Jinxy:

Nonverbal Communication Analysis # 2313:
Elisa Lam Video in Elevator at Cecil Hotel -
What Her Body Language Tells Us ....


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 Quoting: Jinxy McDeath

 Quoting: phoenixe



That's pretty interesting.


First impressions are important to me though.


I got the impression indeed that games were being played... and however playful it may have seemed at the time I truly believe she did have an uncertainty as to her personal safety. These are the little signs we have to pay attention to as humans to keep ourselves out of harm's way.


But I feel that her curiosity toward the person got the best of her.


VERY puzzling. Who the fuck was it?
 Quoting: Mister Obvious


This matches up with the 'Oriental Queen' story. Freaky.
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Re: ### Elisa Lam - the elevator - video - discussion - thread ! ###
Nice work Phoenixe!

I'm getting lost in all the info about this case, and I'm wondering where the idea of some cloaking operation taking place in the Cecil came from and if there's a link to this?

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