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### Elisa Lam - the elevator - video - discussion - thread ! ###

 
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Sounds related...

TB Outbreak: ...is spreading - LAPD Officers To Wear Masks


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Carolyn Costello (the reporter) = CC = 33 (Masonic Number)
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Very sad.
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If Invisible Light Agency was at the Cecil it would be because the rent was cheap.
It looks to me like the company was trying to make a name in graphics/video.

Vu working as Senior Effects Artist/Supervisor for Raytheon means he worked in the, "commercials," that such companies make... which are basically pitches of one sort or another in the business/industry.

That Vu would be involved in Scientology is not a Fantastic Surprise. There has been a huge effort to recruit off the street for decades, buying up large properties as nexus points in L.A.

Now to the T.B.
It has long been, again, for decades, one of the things that kill homeless people.... Due to exposure, poor nutrition, it is and has been high on the list of what homeless people have died of and will die of.

The death of this young woman is a real shame.
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Here is a thorough explanation of Elisa Lam's video.

She was acting a game name named Life for Death. The reasons are as follows.

1. She wrote about the game in her blog. She mentioned a guy who like this game. It could be possible that they met up in LA acting the game.

2. Throughout the video her movements were so weird. Her legs were so rigid, and her feet twisted several times. This could be normal behavior. There are two possible explanations: She could be on drug, or she could be acting the game. As you know, people in computer games move slowly.

3. She began to reach out her arms. In the game it was when someone is healing herself. Then she began to "dance", as you would call it. She bent down several times and began "counting". In the game it was when someone was healing her partner.

4. She put on a smile when she hid herself in the corner of the elevator. If she was followed and frightened, she could not have been smiling.

5. She dart out of the elevator once--with swift movements, and she was so calm when she walked inside of the elevator. These all contradicts drug theory. Well, it still can be possible if she was on a little drug. But that was not the main reason she was behaving that way.

6. She pushed all the buttons, including the HOLD button. She just did not intend to go down. Or maybe she intended to go down a little later.

7. The settings of the Cecil hotel was similar to the game. In the game story begins on the roof, and then go down through the elevator on the right handside.

I am not sure if this has anything to do with murder. But it seems to me that she was in her normal state of mind, not freaked out, not on drug.

I hope the above analysis is helpful to you all.
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Nice work Phoenixe!

I'm getting lost in all the info about this case, and I'm wondering where the idea of some cloaking operation taking place in the Cecil came from and if there's a link to this?
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the idea ivolved from the findings me made on the thread, one thing led to the other ..

see page 23 for the link-list "news summed up", it´s in the lower half of the thread. the sum-up from page 6 there is self-explaining...
to make it short: EL postet huffpost cloak-article on twitter, invisble lights agency at cecil hotel does cloaking.
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look at this!

..would as well explain the behaviour in the vid!


I do not know if this is the right place to put this post but since my network connectio is slow, I just put it here. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

At first I did not understand why the girl was moving so slowly. Today I came to know that everything she did was to imitate the game Life 4 Death. You can imagine how slowly players moved in the game. There was a healing process for the players, which is amazingly similar to her reaching out her hands and bending knees. And when she began "dancing" it was helping her partners heal. These all make sense how she moved in a peculiar way.

I feel like she was just playing a real game with someone else. But I am not sure. It could be just her illusions. And I also cannot determine if this is connected to murder or her suicide, or if she was on drug or alcohol.
 Quoting: connections to Life 4 Death 35240127


To refer to relevant game pictures of Life 4 Death. You can click the following link.

[link to tieba.baidu.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35240127


Here is a thorough explanation of Elisa Lam's video.

She was acting a game name named Life for Death. The reasons are as follows.

1. She wrote about the game in her blog. She mentioned a guy who like this game. It could be possible that they met up in LA acting the game.

2. Throughout the video her movements were so weird. Her legs were so rigid, and her feet twisted several times. This could be normal behavior. There are two possible explanations: She could be on drug, or she could be acting the game. As you know, people in computer games move slowly.

3. She began to reach out her arms. In the game it was when someone is healing herself. Then she began to "dance", as you would call it. She bent down several times and began "counting". In the game it was when someone was healing her partner.

4. She put on a smile when she hid herself in the corner of the elevator. If she was followed and frightened, she could not have been smiling.

5. She dart out of the elevator once--with swift movements, and she was so calm when she walked inside of the elevator. These all contradicts drug theory. Well, it still can be possible if she was on a little drug. But that was not the main reason she was behaving that way.

6. She pushed all the buttons, including the HOLD button. She just did not intend to go down. Or maybe she intended to go down a little later.

7. The settings of the Cecil hotel was similar to the game. In the game story begins on the roof, and then go down through the elevator on the right handside.

I am not sure if this has anything to do with murder. But it seems to me that she was in her normal state of mind, not freaked out, not on drug.

I hope the above analysis is helpful to you all.
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phoenixe-please read attentively the quote below-it was posted by a one time user only on GLP, I checked-this is chilling, the details... let me know what you think, are we dealing here with the mur....

She met this man waiting for the elevator shortly after her arrival. He noticed her right off the bat. He watches the tourists come and go. The tourists stay on the first four floors. He loved the fact she was alone, plus she was different. He broke the ice by asking her why she's alone in such a questionable area of LA. She explained how she found the place on the internet and liked the history. She's not new to staying at hostels. He was glad only one elevator was working that week.

The man has charm and is funny, although he is older she likes him and his personality. He is a man of the streets. He reveals during this first encounter that he lives on the top floor of the motel and is adept at its history. She enjoys this. They part ways and he takes note of the fact she is interested in art and history.

The second morning of her stay she is in the motel lobby about to leave to pursue her itinerary of places she wants to see in LA. He had to hang around outside of the hotel before she came down but his judgement was correct, he thought he had missed her. She exits the motel and there he is with a warm, trusting smile. He is excited she smiles back at him. He told her that he gets up early to grab the paper. He shows her the art section and some interesting studios and historic places nearby that she might want to see. He lets her go although he would like to talk more. He is smart and has been in this situation before. He previously unnerved a young lady years ago that he was watching by being overly friendly. Take it slow he tells himself.

He decides not to follow her that day, it doesn't matter to him, he knows she will be back. He quickly goes back to his room on the 14th floor and opens the blinds to the LA streets down below. It's a perfect view. Years ago he purchased a decent spotting scope with a tripod at a sporting goods store. He puts his eye to the view finder and quickly scans the sidewalk in the direction she left for. He spots her at a bus stop. He watches her, he is getting aroused. He spends the rest of the day, like he usually does, masturbating furiously while watching young women through his scope.

It's going to be getting dark soon as he scans the street below looking for the oriental queen. There she is, he adjusts his scope and tracks her movements. He quickly scrambles his clothes on and heads out the door. He runs down the stairs to the lobby. He quit using the elevators unless he has to because of those pesky surveillance cameras. He timed it perfectly, she is not there yet. He strikes up a conversation with the hotel clerk to look preoccupied when she enters. Out of the corner of his eye the oriental queen enters and heads for the elevators. He turns his head as she passes and says "well, how'd it go today?". She smiles and says "great" and thanks him for telling her about a particular landmark she really enjoyed.

They walk together towards the elevator and he explains about a cool little art cafe that is a local hangout nearby and invites her to lunch the next day. She hesitates but he has learned to use that trusting smile. He has practiced this smile so much. She accepts! He is so pleased. The elevator doors opens and she enters but he does not. He tells her he has to go visit his mom in a nursing home and she likes that. He knows to never be seen together on those elevator cams. He holds the elevator button down while he explains to her that the cafe doesn't open until 2pm and he'll meet her outside the motel at about 1:30. She feels good, excited, she longs for friends, especially a cool guy from LA. He brandishes that trusting smile one more time while the elevator doors close.

She thinks about him that night laying in bed. He is handsome. She has explored her sexuality in the past but recently her body has been extremely desperate for that touch. He also thinks about her, but the thoughts are dark. He is a dark man inside. He dreams of screams. She dreams of a beautiful lake, crystal clear waters.

He noticed she put extra effort into how she looked that day when they met outside the hotel. His conversation was perfect during the date. He practiced everything he would say. He made her laugh hysterically while they were eating that she almost choked. She really likes him and is already thinking how her parents would react. So soon, she thought, a boyfriend? No, just a one time thing. She wouldn't tell anyone. No tumblr updates, no blog posts, nothing. This has to be a secret. She still cant believe that she invited him up to her room as they were walking back to the hotel. He convinces her to use the stairs to go up to her room because he doesn't trust the elevators. She slides her key into her room door lock, it makes an ominous noise, he smiles and jokes about ghosts on the 4th floor. They enter and immediately begin to make out. They are locked together as one when they fall on the bed. She can hardly believe that he is inside her. He is powerful, she compares her long time ex-boyfriend to him. They go on a sexual quest for hours, she has never felt this way before. His thrusts are deep and hard. They managed to break the sink while trying out different positions and cause a leak, they laugh about this. They are laying in bed exhausted when he invites her up to his room to check out his art collection. She agrees. He gives her his room number and tells her to meet him up there.

It's dark out now. She looks at her watch, almost 11. She almost doesn't go but her body is still tingling. She wants to explore him. She gets in the elevator and presses number 14. His room is down the hall, she finds it and knocks. The door opens and she melts at that smile. He pours a glass of Hausgemacht for her. She has never drank the green liquid before. It's the real deal. They talk and drink and he shows her some art pieces but unfortunately she found them disturbing. She is taken aback by his choice in art and studies the room. She doesn't like it. He jokes and says let me see your glasses you must not be seeing right this art is great. She giggles and gives them to him. An uneasy feeling sweeps through her. He notices this and goes to the kitchen area of his tiny residence and picks up the phone. "Why don't you come up boss" he says and hangs the phone up. She wants to leave now.

He tries to convince her to stay but she is already out of the door walking to the elevators. She is still friendly to him as he calls out to her from his doorway. She presses the elevator button. My glasses! Damn, maybe I shouldn't leave she thinks, I am overreacting. The elevator opens, she can't see the buttons and the green liquid is settling in now. She presses the middle row of buttons, she remembers the 4th floor is in the middle. She doesn't know that she hits the door open button. It's an older Otis elevator. When the door open button is pressed it will stay open until the door close or the call button is activated. Is he following me? She decides to use friendship as a defense and stomps out in a child like manner, almost flirtatious. No one is there. She hears a metal door close somewhere in the stairwell next to the elevator. She needs her glasses. She exits and stands next to the call button. No one is coming, she enters the elevator again and presses any buttons that she can feel. Nothing. She stands outside again when she notices his figure down the hall. She tells him that she can't see, pleads with him. He says nothing. Behind her the stairwell door opens. The Boss. He has a weapon.

They are aware of the camera in the elevator.
The boss tells her to step towards him. She obeys.
He is pure evil, he smiles as he presses the elevator button. The door closes.
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Link to the original post:
Thread: Elisa Lam - My Oriental Queen - Final discussion
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this is obviously just some dipshit making a story out of what they think may have happened.
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look at this!

..would as well explain the behaviour in the vid!


I do not know if this is the right place to put this post but since my network connectio is slow, I just put it here. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

At first I did not understand why the girl was moving so slowly. Today I came to know that everything she did was to imitate the game Life 4 Death. You can imagine how slowly players moved in the game. There was a healing process for the players, which is amazingly similar to her reaching out her hands and bending knees. And when she began "dancing" it was helping her partners heal. These all make sense how she moved in a peculiar way.

I feel like she was just playing a real game with someone else. But I am not sure. It could be just her illusions. And I also cannot determine if this is connected to murder or her suicide, or if she was on drug or alcohol.
 Quoting: connections to Life 4 Death 35240127


To refer to relevant game pictures of Life 4 Death. You can click the following link.

[link to tieba.baidu.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35240127


Here is a thorough explanation of Elisa Lam's video.

She was acting a game name named Life for Death. The reasons are as follows.

1. She wrote about the game in her blog. She mentioned a guy who like this game. It could be possible that they met up in LA acting the game.

2. Throughout the video her movements were so weird. Her legs were so rigid, and her feet twisted several times. This could be normal behavior. There are two possible explanations: She could be on drug, or she could be acting the game. As you know, people in computer games move slowly.

3. She began to reach out her arms. In the game it was when someone is healing herself. Then she began to "dance", as you would call it. She bent down several times and began "counting". In the game it was when someone was healing her partner.

4. She put on a smile when she hid herself in the corner of the elevator. If she was followed and frightened, she could not have been smiling.

5. She dart out of the elevator once--with swift movements, and she was so calm when she walked inside of the elevator. These all contradicts drug theory. Well, it still can be possible if she was on a little drug. But that was not the main reason she was behaving that way.

6. She pushed all the buttons, including the HOLD button. She just did not intend to go down. Or maybe she intended to go down a little later.

7. The settings of the Cecil hotel was similar to the game. In the game story begins on the roof, and then go down through the elevator on the right handside.

I am not sure if this has anything to do with murder. But it seems to me that she was in her normal state of mind, not freaked out, not on drug.

I hope the above analysis is helpful to you all.
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 Quoting: phoenixe


This has the ring of truth imho. But I don't know where it leaves us .
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After watching the elevator footage and looking at photos of her, they don't even look like the same person.

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There is a dark figure, looks like it's wearing a hooded cloak by the controls in the elevator, there is something there it looks like. Also looks like the elevator wasn't working, and she was hiding from something then it looks like she is communicating with someone.
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was it not working or did someone shut it down?
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[link to ktla.com]

Concerns about TB at Whittier High follow an outbreak among L.A.’s homeless on skid row, where public health officials say thousands of people may have been exposed to a unique strain that has led to 11 deaths since 2007.

There was no update from the heath department about whether the case in Whittier was at all related to the strain on Skid Row.

Read more: [link to ktla.com]
Read more at [link to ktla.com]
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[link to ktla.com]
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The students are among several kids at the high school who were screened for TB.

A letter sent out to parents on February 13th alerted them that the L.A. County Department of Public Health had identified someone associated with the high school as having tested positive for the respiratory illness.



Whittier is 19 miles from downtown LA/skid row/Cecil
Someone in Whittier tested positive for TB and now they are testing everyone else at the school.
Probably NOT random that a new case just happened to pop up. I wonder how many more we will begin to hear about
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well,
pretty much for _my own_ convenience,
a thread for all elevator-video-related discussions.

...feel free to go crazy !

hf

short version:

[link to www.youtube.com]

long version:
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: phoenixe


You have many threads going on this Elisa lam thing. Why have you put up so many threads? Why have you split it all up into little pockets here, there and everywhere. It is nonsense, you should have just mad one thread with all info in it. I do not want to keep clicking about all over the place for the same related info.
This is just dividing and creating confusion.
Utterly pathetic, I will not read any more of your threads, they give me a headache.
Stupid woman.
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just a thought came to me,,, of someone "high up" in the hotel. This is LA during the Dorner manhunt. EL was wandering about the city as a tourist, coming to and from a seedy part of town. Did she see something? Did she witness something the crazed cops did? Maybe the perp(s) is a cop, or a group of cops -- in or out of uniform.
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Here is a thorough explanation of Elisa Lam's video.

She was acting a game name named Life for Death. The reasons are as follows.

1. She wrote about the game in her blog. She mentioned a guy who like this game. It could be possible that they met up in LA acting the game.

2. Throughout the video her movements were so weird. Her legs were so rigid, and her feet twisted several times. This could be normal behavior. There are two possible explanations: She could be on drug, or she could be acting the game. As you know, people in computer games move slowly.

3. She began to reach out her arms. In the game it was when someone is healing herself. Then she began to "dance", as you would call it. She bent down several times and began "counting". In the game it was when someone was healing her partner.

4. She put on a smile when she hid herself in the corner of the elevator. If she was followed and frightened, she could not have been smiling.

5. She dart out of the elevator once--with swift movements, and she was so calm when she walked inside of the elevator. These all contradicts drug theory. Well, it still can be possible if she was on a little drug. But that was not the main reason she was behaving that way.

6. She pushed all the buttons, including the HOLD button. She just did not intend to go down. Or maybe she intended to go down a little later.

7. The settings of the Cecil hotel was similar to the game. In the game story begins on the roof, and then go down through the elevator on the right handside.

I am not sure if this has anything to do with murder. But it seems to me that she was in her normal state of mind, not freaked out, not on drug.

I hope the above analysis is helpful to you all.
 Quoting: Audrey.Ren 35240127


What a load of shit.

The only truth in that elevator video is that there is foul play on the ownership and staff side. This is evident by the behaviour of the elevator itself.
She was showing signs of fear, hiding etc, that is obvious, but the most obvious thing, and that which needs to be investigated is that the elevator did not move from the floor where her behaviour was odd. She got in and out of it, pushed several buttons, it should have gone on it's way, but it was stuck on that floor where she was for some time.
On the other floors the elevator opened and closed fairly quickly in rapid succession, normal, so why did it not do that with poor Elisa in it, even having pressed several buttons? The only people that can control that from outside is the staff! Also how she got into the tank if all the doors to the roof were securely locked.
There is some evil people in that hotel.
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After watching the elevator footage and looking at photos of her, they don't even look like the same person.


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thank you! finally, someone else noticed this.
i kept saying this it on and on..

besides, the video still is altered and has the time/date stamp blurred.

why?

i still assume this vid has nothing to do with the case.

Last Edited by Doomina on 02/27/2013 11:37 AM
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[link to ktla.com]

Concerns about TB at Whittier High follow an outbreak among L.A.’s homeless on skid row, where public health officials say thousands of people may have been exposed to a unique strain that has led to 11 deaths since 2007.

There was no update from the heath department about whether the case in Whittier was at all related to the strain on Skid Row.

Read more: [link to ktla.com]
Read more at [link to ktla.com]
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quite interesting find!

of course, under the poor conditions of homeless this/any disease spreads well, but let´s watch out if it´s increasing and affecting more spots. and if it´s the same "unique strain", as far as we get the info..
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the Lam Elisa TB strain.
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well,
pretty much for _my own_ convenience,
a thread for all elevator-video-related discussions.

...feel free to go crazy !

hf

short version:

[link to www.youtube.com]

long version:
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: phoenixe


You have many threads going on this Elisa lam thing. Why have you put up so many threads? Why have you split it all up into little pockets here, there and everywhere. It is nonsense, you should have just mad one thread with all info in it. I do not want to keep clicking about all over the place for the same related info.
This is just dividing and creating confusion.
Utterly pathetic, I will not read any more of your threads, they give me a headache.
Stupid woman.
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sure, you´re welcome ! no one needs to read both (many threads, yeah..) threads.
if you read them at all, you would know why i splitted it.
especially for you, the reason in short:
elevator-vid is fake and pure distraction imo.

bye! and take an aspirin ;)
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just a thought came to me,,, of someone "high up" in the hotel. This is LA during the Dorner manhunt. EL was wandering about the city as a tourist, coming to and from a seedy part of town. Did she see something? Did she witness something the crazed cops did? Maybe the perp(s) is a cop, or a group of cops -- in or out of uniform.
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good thought, as lapd struggles with some issues as far as i read about on the news. it would as well explain the lack of real information given.
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Or maybe there was someone there we just can't see it? You can clearly see something black that is in the video inside the elevator by the control panels, just look, it looks like it is wearing a hood, it's a figure.
 Quoting: phoenixe


..which would lead back to the theory about the "invisible man" we made and found hints to in my other thread.


There is no figure in the elevator how you described. The quality plays tricks on the eyes, natural light phenomena of the quality is all that is there, there is no figure but in your imagination.
The only time the clock messes up is when the doors to the elevator finally close when she is out, just as it closes there seems to be a glitch.

What is odd is that when she first gets in she looks relaxed, casual, not feared for her life etc., she even swings her arm around to push the buttons which is weird like acting.
Maybe it is a scam, a fake to cover up what really happened, to hide the perpetrators. Maybe this woman was paid to act out a scene as evidence... Who knows?
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What is the thinking? That the video is fake to make everyone think she was loopy?
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The Stay Hotel has a separate entrance and is the top 3 floors of the Cecil, a "hotel within a hotel" with its "mod orange and white" color scheme.

Did someone mention an orange reflection in the vid?
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The Stay Hotel has a separate entrance and is the top 3 floors of the Cecil, a "hotel within a hotel" with its "mod orange and white" color scheme.

Did someone mention an orange reflection in the vid?
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What is the thinking? That the video is fake to make everyone think she was loopy?
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i do think the video is not showing EL.
the girl in the vid does not wear glasses, and if you compare EL photos with the vid (and an asian link showing the face from the vid in better qualitiy), you might get the impression it´s not her.
besides that, time/date stamp are made unreadable in that vid on purpose.
and:as on page1/post3 of this thread explained, it is altered.
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just a thought came to me,,, of someone "high up" in the hotel. This is LA during the Dorner manhunt. EL was wandering about the city as a tourist, coming to and from a seedy part of town. Did she see something? Did she witness something the crazed cops did? Maybe the perp(s) is a cop, or a group of cops -- in or out of uniform.
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good thought, as lapd struggles with some issues as far as i read about on the news. it would as well explain the lack of real information given.
 Quoting: phoenixe


The timelines are extremely tight:

Jan31, Elisa Lam last seen in Cecil hotel lobby.
Feb1: Parcel containing a note, a DVD and a bullet hole-riddled memento arrives at CNN. Dorner discharged from U.S. Navy Reserve.
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The Stay Hotel has a separate entrance and is the top 3 floors of the Cecil, a "hotel within a hotel" with its "mod orange and white" color scheme.

Did someone mention an orange reflection in the vid?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35051383


yes, orange reflection was mentioned.
but stay has 636 S Main St and Cecil 640 S Main St.
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just a thought came to me,,, of someone "high up" in the hotel. This is LA during the Dorner manhunt. EL was wandering about the city as a tourist, coming to and from a seedy part of town. Did she see something? Did she witness something the crazed cops did? Maybe the perp(s) is a cop, or a group of cops -- in or out of uniform.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35051383


good thought, as lapd struggles with some issues as far as i read about on the news. it would as well explain the lack of real information given.
 Quoting: phoenixe


The timelines are extremely tight:

Jan31, Elisa Lam last seen in Cecil hotel lobby.
Feb1: Parcel containing a note, a DVD and a bullet hole-riddled memento arrives at CNN. Dorner discharged from U.S. Navy Reserve.
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maybe it has something to do.. maybe those dead colleagues of Dorner confronted him with something..
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Re: ### Elisa Lam - the elevator - video - discussion - thread ! ###
The Stay Hotel has a separate entrance and is the top 3 floors of the Cecil, a "hotel within a hotel" with its "mod orange and white" color scheme.

Did someone mention an orange reflection in the vid?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35051383


yes, orange reflection was mentioned.
but stay has 636 S Main St and Cecil 640 S Main St.
 Quoting: phoenixe


The Stay hotel is carved out of the decidedly less glamorous Cecil Hotel (the hotels have separate entrances).

..a ground-level entrance into Stay, which is operated on three upper floors of the Cecil.

Lanting, a "hotel doctor" brought in by the Cecil's owners to create Stay as a "hotel within a hotel,"


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