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The Anti-Christ is a world figure, and is not the Pope!

 
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The Anti-Christ is a world figure, and is not the Pope!
The Anti-Christ is a world political figure who rises to power quickly, and is assassinated 3 1/2 years into the tribulation.

He will lie in state of mourning for 3 days before the
eyes of the world. After which he will be indwelt with Satan and rise again, and the world will marvel after the beast who received a deadly wound to the head and yet returned from the dead.

The Pope (The false Prophet) will undoubtedly somehow take part in this Satanic ritual in bringing
the Anti-Christ back form the dead.

If the pope were the Anti-Christ as some of you suggest, then how could he the (Pope/Anti-Christ) turn against and destroy himself/his church, only to survive the rest of the tribulation as the Anti-Christ???

People you need to get educated and read God's word (Yes, read your KJV Bible!) and not just the parts you
want to read. Read it until you can memorize it, that is why its valuable to you and God gave it to us. No
wonder so many people will be deceived; your already deceiving yourselves!

Anti-Christ - World Figure
Not necessarily Political, but He will fill that world role.

Pope - False Prophet
Who is destroyed by the Beast (The Anti-Christ) sometime during the Great Tribulation! and therefore can not be the
Anti-Christ as some are claiming

Satan - Is Satan, who else?
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I have enough of reading about AC: it is just a fable and it doesn't exist... I will hear some new Italian song like this:

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The Antichrist and the Judgment of This Wicked Generation

10/24/04 From God The Father - A Letter Given to Timothy, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear



Timothy, write all things as The Lord commands you, for the time draws oh so short... Hence, in six years time shall the nations fall, for the beast is now among you. Even now, this very day, he makes his play for power. Beware... For he is coming in the guise of peace, a lover of men.
Know this, all you of wisdom, and all you who have received understanding: He is a snare... He opens the pit of hell, which is the grave, and suffering does follow after him. He is the maker of lies, and all his people will believe him. For it has been ordained by The Most High, that all those, not of The Word, shall believe the lies.
And his lies proceed from him, like the fragrance of a rose in full bloom... A sweet perfume taken deeply into the lungs, of the one who has bent down to partake of its scent... But oh how quickly does it turn, once ingested, quickly becoming the most awful and putrid smell. Rotting from the inside are his people... They are already dead, for there is no breath left in them... Only a rotten stench and putrefying sores remain.
Timothy, you must turn the tide of their hearts quickly, and in the beginning you must do so, for steadfast is My wrath against them.

Thus says The Lord, concerning those who do not turn, all those who refuse to see the Truth, who do rebel against their God: Your hearts shall be hardened, for you are lost... WICKED GENERATION!... Worshippers of him, who has wroth anger and blasphemy at his heart! Therefore, My fierce countenance shall be unveiled!... And woe to those who remain!...


Woe, woe, woe, to the peoples of the earth!...

The time has come!...

No longer will I endure the evil madness of this world of men!



My patience is all but lost... My Word and My ways, even My very Son, have become an insult to them, and oh how they do rebel against Me, even wholeheartedly. No longer do I stop their ears, yet they do stop them of their own accord, willingly... Lest they should hear even one shining glimmer of The Word’s majesty, and be saved.


Travesty! Oh travesty!... My people have turned from Me!...

Therefore, it is with a heavy heart, that I must now turn My hand against them.



Yet do not fear, O servants, for I have first poured out My Spirit upon the whole world, and with a loud voice have I uttered to all, saying, “Hear Me... I am The Lord, YOUR GOD! Hear Me!... Turn from your ways, return to Me, and read My Word!... Come to Me, know Me, for My love for you is great... Listen to My Son, accept Him, and repent!”
For He have I sent into the midst of the world, to reap. And He shall surely gather, even all those who remain willing... All, in whom He sees of Himself. Soon I will call Him back, and with Him shall come all those who are Mine, even every one who I had drawn to Him. Woe to those who would not come, woe to those who I must leave... They will suffer My fierce anger, the bitter anguish of My heart.


For My heart is broken...

And I will avenge those persecuted for My name,
And those who were slain, of innocent blood...

Their blood, their most precious nectar of life... The very lights of the world.


So I say, FEAR!... Fear and tremble unto death, for death will be a blessing to those who remain!... For My fierce anger is aroused. It is burning hot as a furnace, and shall rage seven times, and who shall quench it?! I will judge and punish those who rebel against Me! And slay ALL, who have murdered My saints and prophets!... With a double portion reserved for those, who have hurt My little ones!

Lo, they, who have harmed My precious lights of the world, will cry out, “Please let us have the millstone about our necks, and cast us into the depths of the sea, and hide us from the face of The One who sits on high, and has come against us as a terrible storm, as an everlasting scourging.” Behold, in that Day, I will cause them all to turn on one another, even to destruction of the earth... And the blood shall flow, even as the River Euphrates, when its waters are about to burst its banks... As a flood after a torrential rain, reaching to the height of a horse’s bridle.


Then The Son shall appear in His strength,
Coming on the clouds, in all power and glory...

No one will escape the light of His coming!... No one!...

Not in the heavens, on the earth or under the earth.


His light will leave not a shadow, for His glory shall pierce the heavens and permeate the entire earth... Even to the bottom of the abyss. In that day, all those not of The Son will be driven through unto death, with the light of His coming and the sword of His mouth. None will be left standing, for He has set forth a great feast for the birds and the beasts of the earth, to become engorged on the flesh of the damned... His power is boundless!
Woe, woe, woe, to the beast and his false prophet!
For they will bow before The King, and confess HE is Lord, saying, “Jesus, You are The Christ, and truly, You are The King of kings and Lord of lords... Have mercy on us.” Yet He will not hear their pleas, for they have slain the saints and led many into damnation... The blood of many is on their hands.
Therefore, He, The King of Power and Glory, will give unto them a fierce scourging, with the sword of His mouth, in the presence of the saints, the angels, and the dragon. Then He will cast them into the lake of burning fire; and they will suffer day and night, until the end. Then to the dragon will he do likewise, except this: He will first bind him, until the plan of the ages, the design of The Most High, comes to its conclusion...


Then shall come the time of great rejoicing...

When indeed, all things have been put under the feet, of The Holy One of Israel...

The last being that of death.





[And the angels shout]

Glory and everlasting praise, to The Lord and to His Son,

Who is the beginning of all things, and the end of all that is wicked!



Glory be on high!... All things have become new!



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It'll be somebody who has won the nobel peace prize.
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Nope. That ain't it either. You're right about the Pope though. It's not him.

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It's not one person.
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I have enough of reading about AC: it is just a fable and it doesn't exist... I will hear some new Italian song like this:


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And therefore you will be decieved, just because you dont believe doesnt make it not true.Satan loves people like you, the non-believers, he doesnt even have to use much of his energy to get you in hell.so long and enjoy the torture you will be in for eternity.
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Nope. That ain't it either. You're right about the Pope though. It's not him.

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The pope will be the one who tells the Catholics that the Vatican Has been a big lie that thier faith is false religion.the Catholics will be pissed about this and will start buring down the citys and trying to get to the Pope to destroy him for this, They the Catholics will be mad knowing that all their ancestors who followed this Faith are now Damned to Hell.as this is happeing the Antichrist will make his appearance and he will reassure the Lost Catholics that they are not Damned that their is a true Religion and this is the New relgion that the World will follow, He will then proceed to convince all churchs that all religions are the wrong ones, that the One World Religion is the right one and that all the people following these others have been decieved by Satan.That we all need to come together and have the same beliefes,then while all this is going on he will save the World from all this shit happening , Money problems, food shortages,wars, etc... for the first 3 and a half years everything will be good, thats when he will deicde that things need to change and introduce New World order, the mark of the beast, By this point everyone will love this person and have no reason to doubt this person. so telling people to take a world order mark will not be that big of a deal.I mean this is the
Messiha the the one who can perform miracles and has saved the World, Then most likely from someone who knows the truth he will try to assasinate this new world fighure, the one who has saved the World will then rise 3 days later to the shock of the World.Then he Satan will tell the World that he is the Messiha and everyone who has been waiting for the Messiha will believe this is the one, because all religions are waiting for the one, rather its Jesus, budda, Alla, etc... the people of the World will be decieved and follow Him the ones who refuse will have to be dealt with as if you aint with the new system which makes the world a beter place you are a terriost, you are a problem causer, hater of the World. and the ones who believe in nothing Atheist, you will be the easiest ones to decieve, as you have no faith in anything nothing to ground you, You will beleive anything as long as it pleases you and makes your life easier, after all you believe that this life is it, the end, so you try to live life as there are no rules no punishment or reward after death just nothingness,but oh when you Die and realise that it doesnt end and their is something after death and you messed up because you was to afraid to belive in life after death, you thought you would just cease to exist.now you face eternal Punishment, just because you couldnt believe there is a higher powe r than your self, so pitiful you let you EGO get in your way now suffering will be put upon you, how sad.you still have time but time is getting short,so make your decision or pay for it after Death.
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The Anti-Christ is a world political figure who rises to power quickly, and is assassinated 3 1/2 years into the tribulation.

He will lie in state of mourning for 3 days before the
eyes of the world. After which he will be indwelt with Satan and rise again, and the world will marvel after the beast who received a deadly wound to the head and yet returned from the dead.

The Pope (The false Prophet) will undoubtedly somehow take part in this Satanic ritual in bringing
the Anti-Christ back form the dead.

If the pope were the Anti-Christ as some of you suggest, then how could he the (Pope/Anti-Christ) turn against and destroy himself/his church, only to survive the rest of the tribulation as the Anti-Christ???

People you need to get educated and read God's word (Yes, read your KJV Bible!) and not just the parts you
want to read. Read it until you can memorize it, that is why its valuable to you and God gave it to us. No
wonder so many people will be deceived; your already deceiving yourselves!

Anti-Christ - World Figure
Not necessarily Political, but He will fill that world role.

Pope - False Prophet
Who is destroyed by the Beast (The Anti-Christ) sometime during the Great Tribulation! and therefore can not be the
Anti-Christ as some are claiming

Satan - Is Satan, who else?
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Luckily, a New York fireman will be there to safe the day (Arnold Schwarzenegger).
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I hate to burst your bubbles, but the bible clearly states many times that we are dealing with a man (The Anti-Christ!) read the following scriptures.

The antichrist will be a man - Daniel 7:24-25
He will continue this war with the saints for 3 1/2 years - Daniel 7:21, 25
He will have power to make war with the saints and to overcome them - Revelations 13:7
He will rule a mighty and strong kingdom - Daniel 7:7
He was given power over all kindreds, tongues and nations - Revelations 13:7
His kingdom will devour the whole earth - Daniel 7:23
He will have great military power that will stand behind him, to enforce his laws - Daniel 11:31
He will try to change times and laws; and they will be given into his power for 3 1/2 years - Daniel 7:25
He will give great honor to the God of forces, with gold, silver, jewels, etc - Daniel 11:38
He will prosper in everything that he does - Daniel 8:24
He will not regard the God of his fathers - Daniel 11:37
He will not regard the desire of women - Daniel 11:37
He will have a fierce countenance - Daniel 8:23
He will understand puzzling things - Daniel 8:23
He will cause craft to prosper - Daniel 8:25
He will have a mouth speaking great things. Very boastful - Daniel 7:8
His look will be more stout than his fellows - Daniel 7:2

And finally,
And they worshiped the dragon who gave power unto the beast: and they worshiped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? Rev 13:4

So take notice, its not they will, its he will as in being a singular entity, (A Man) get the point!

Better start reading that Bible People!
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So you think the Anti-Christ is gonna follow the script? The one in which it says he will lose? No sir, thats what he wants you to believe
Id rather die enormous than live dormant

Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine.

Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in
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Considering that God is charge and not the Devil, I would say that I most certainly do believe he'll follow the script right down to dotting the i's and crossing the t's.

The Devil has no more choice in changing God's plans anymore than you do wishing you weren't born here. Did you have a choice in that???

What little faith you have, my dear friend.
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Considering that God is charge and not the Devil, I would say that I most certainly do believe he'll follow the script right down to dotting the i's and crossing the t's.

The Devil has no more choice in changing God's plans anymore than you do wishing you weren't born here. Did you have a choice in that???

What little faith you have, my dear friend.
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Youre such an idiot, you know nothing, first the Devil and AC are two completely different entities, the Devil is not the master over the AC, the AC has his own agenda/plan and its people like you who think everything will evebtually happen just like we want it to and decide not to take an active role, are why the AC might come out victorious. Wake up Sheeple
Id rather die enormous than live dormant

Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine.

Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in
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Who are you Guided bye O' Guidedone??? I'm the idiot, I don't think so! What don't you understand you fool!? as I told you it is the Devil who indwells the dead body of the Anti-Christ which in of itself suggests they are two separate entities.

Both I assure you the Devil will enter the Anti-Christ, and the two shall become as one. Just as God and Jesus are two separate entities and yet one in the same!

As Jesus himself stated, "Whoever has seen me has seen the Father!" John 14:9.

It is idiots like you, that need to wake up fool!
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Considering that God is charge and not the Devil, I would say that I most certainly do believe he'll follow the script right down to dotting the i's and crossing the t's.

The Devil has no more choice in changing God's plans anymore than you do wishing you weren't born here. Did you have a choice in that???

What little faith you have, my dear friend.
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Youre such an idiot, you know nothing, first the Devil and AC are two completely different entities, the Devil is not the master over the AC, the AC has his own agenda/plan and its people like you who think everything will evebtually happen just like we want it to and decide not to take an active role, are why the AC might come out victorious. Wake up Sheeple
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ohyeah

...sssshhhh....
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Tell me O' GuidedOne, what action/s would you suggest you take to stop the Devil/Anti-Christ??? When God himself declares that the Anti-Christ will rule the entire world, Including Lebanon!) for a short time.

This is not our battle to fight tho many will, but rather it is God's to fight when he decides the time is right. That is why the Bible warns the saints that the A/C overcome them for a short time.

The Bible also states the saints are to be patient during this time! Why be patient because the final victory belongs to God!

I not saying we shouldn't oppose the Anti-Christ, but I'm not foolish enough to believe we'll win over him without God's direct intervention.

Praise God!
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You can stay out of this too! Why don't try to understand instead of joining an idiot!
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Christians create the Anti-Christ by converting a regular dude who happens to be rich, powerful and naturally possessing all those characteristics. outside of the christian; there is no such person.

and after spending himself, they introduce their Christ to defeat him.

its a shame that Christians have decided to declare war on the United States...
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I'm tired of fools like you who conjure up kinds of crap without any Biblical basis or fact. It because of people like you that many will be deceived.

You say crap that suggests the Devil/Anti-Christ can alter the will of God himself, that my friend is teetering on blasphemy (So, I'd be careful, O' Guidedone!)

But again like the Bible states that in the last days, many (like yourselves) For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

2 Timothy 4:3
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The Assyrian is a man, the beast that comes out of the pit is an ANGEL, an ANGEL that has been kept in chains of darkness till the time of the end.

People will worship the beast because they're more afraid of the beast then they are of God, he's a judgment on the people, he's the "king" they think they want till he gets let loose. It's going to be 10,000 times worse then people can even fathom.
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Career of Antichrist from Daniel 11

using Antiochus Epiphanes as his type



Antiochus was the King of Syria, the ruler of the Seleucid Kingdom that was one of the four divisions of Alexander the Great’s empire after his death. If the Antichrist is according to type, he will probably come from the same area of origin.



Daniel 11:21à



Dan. 11:21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.

Antichrist comes in peaceably through the use of deceit/propaganda.



Dan. 11:22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.

Identifies Antichrist as the “prince of the covenant.” (The Hebrew words read as indicated above. Some words obviously go with the main Hebrew word, but it is important to see that “they” and “yea, also” are not in the Hebrew.)



Dan. 11:23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.

“After the league made with him” – Does this refer to the covenant of 7 years referenced in 9:27?

Dan. 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Dan. 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

If so, this verse indicates that he will act in deceit re that covenant as indicated by the breaking of the covenant in 9:27. I think this is saying that he never intended to abide by the terms of the covenant; he was just moving forward his own agenda. From a small power base at the time of the covenant, he will assume a position of great power.



Dan. 11:24 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers’ fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.

In the beginning he will advance his cause as a man of peace and will share the wealth he accumulates in his rise to power with those that support/follow him. He will seem to be against evil strongholds for a period of time (the first

3.5 years of the tribulation).



Dan. 11:25 And he shall stir up his power and his courage against the king of the south with a great army; and the king of the south shall be stirred up to battle with a very great and mighty army; but he shall not stand: for they shall forecast devices against him.

Eventually, with a large army he will decide to advance against the King of the South (Egypt and its allies) who will in turn respond with his own great army; but the King of the South will be defeated.



Dan. 11:26 Yea, they that feed of the portion of his meat shall destroy him, and his army shall overflow: and many shall fall down slain.

In fact, the King of the South will be sabotaged by those of his own family/allies. Many will die as his army is defeated.



Dan. 11:27 And both these kings’ hearts shall be to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time appointed.

This verse makes it sound like Antichrist and the King of the South will make a public display of negotiating for peace while trying to deceive each other in the process. Their charades will mean nothing, since God’s timetable is sure and will continue on schedule.



Dan. 11:28 Then shall he return into his land with great riches; and his heart shall be against the holy covenant; and he shall do exploits, and return to his own land.

Dan. 11:29 At the time appointed he shall return, and come toward the south; but it shall not be as the former, or as the latter.

Antichrist will return home with great riches. On his way home through Israel he will cause destruction. “At the time appointed” (on God’s timetable), Antichrist will again come toward the South. This time the results will differ from the previous two times the King of the North has attacked the King of the South.



Dan. 11:30 For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.

This time the great Roman/western navy will intervene on behalf of Egypt and its allies. Antichrist will be very angry at his defeat, and will take out his anger on Israel. Those who give him support will be rewarded.



(7/05) This poses a question. Who is this western navy? I thought he would have the European Union/Rome under control at this time.



Dan. 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

His soldiers will wreck the temple area and prohibit the offering of the daily sacrifice. They will then place/erect the “abomination that maketh desolate.” (cf Matt 24:15 - When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand.))



Dan. 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.

Antichrist will deceive many with his charismatic speech. Those who truly know God will stand firm in their faith in word and deed.



Dan. 11:33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.

Those who have spiritual wisdom will teach many in spite of the fact that they will face death by standing firm in their faith and sharing it.



Dan. 11:34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.

These soldiers of faith will receive very little help/support, and some of those who say they are supporting them will be deceiving them.



Dan. 11:35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.

The people of faith will suffer as a process of purging (making more fruitful) and spiritual cleansing (becoming more Christ-like). Still, events are happening according to God’s timetable.



Dan. 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

During this last half of the tribulation, the Antichrist will be able to act at will. He will blaspheme God. He will appear to prosper until the time of Jacob’s trouble has been completed. Again, God’s purposes will be accomplished through this entire terrible time according to God’s timetable.



Dan. 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

Antichrist will not “regard the God of his fathers.” The Hebrew more accurately reads “gods”; the article the is not in the original. (When the article accompanies the Hebrew word, it often refers to Deity.) He will not “desire” women; this sounds like he will be homosexual. He will not recognize any other god, because he will exalt himself as God.



Dan. 11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

Antichrist will honor the god of forces (defense, rock, fortress, strength, strongholds). This verse indicates that this was a god his fathers didn’t know. That part is confusing since many in the past have recognized and placed their faith in military might.

Webster – Stronghold = a fortified place; a place of security.

I can’t really find support in the original language that I’m seeking, but I can’t help but make a connection here to Satan and his spiritual forces. We know that according to Revelation 13:4, the people worship the dragon, Satan, the power behind the beast/Antichrist.

Rev. 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

Maybe it is a double reference—a military power empowered by the spirits of evil.



The more I have thought about it, I think this is a reference to Satan. Men have always worshipped gods/idols, but have never openly worshipped Satan until more recent times.



Dan. 11:39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

Evidently, Antichrist will be emboldened to attack those of recognized might and power and will reward those who support him with positions as rulers over designated lands. This implies a man of great power, yet still with enemies to conquer.



Dan. 11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

Dan. 11:41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.

“At the time of the end” (of the 7 years?) Egypt and her allies will decide to attack the Antichrist and his armies one more time. The Antichrist will launch his offensive from air, land and sea, and will invade and conquer the countries that are in his path, including Israel. The lands of Moab, Edom, and Ammon (modern Jordan) will escape harm at this time (because of Petra?).



(7/05) Another question arises. If the narrative is chronological, I would have placed this with verse 31, referencing the abomination of desolation and the middle of the tribulation. I think I’m missing something.



Dan. 11:42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.

Dan. 11:43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

As he increases his sphere of power, Egypt won’t escape being conquered, as well as Libya and the Ethiopians. The riches from these nations will be used for his purposes.



Dan. 11:44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.

In time, Antichrist will get news from the east and north that will trouble him. (He is the King of the North; is he suspecting an overthrow attempt? Is this a reference to the 6th bowl judgment in Revelation 16:12?--And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.)



Dan. 11:45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

Antichrist heads for home with great anger and destroys anyone who gets in his way. This is when he decides to make his headquarters in Jerusalem. By then, time will have run out. God’s timetable calls for his destruction at this time.

(cf Rev 19:11-20)
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What time line are you in??? who said anything other than yourself about Christians declaring war against the United States???

Please do us all a favor and step off of my planet! I proudly served 20+years in the Military, which gets me a little more background then your simple mind and is probably more than you wish you could do for the good of this country.

And yes, your welcome too foo1!
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The Anti-Christ is a world political figure who rises to power quickly, and is assassinated 3 1/2 years into the tribulation.

He will lie in state of mourning for 3 days before the
eyes of the world. After which he will be indwelt with Satan and rise again, and the world will marvel after the beast who received a deadly wound to the head and yet returned from the dead.

The Pope (The false Prophet) will undoubtedly somehow take part in this Satanic ritual in bringing
the Anti-Christ back form the dead.

If the pope were the Anti-Christ as some of you suggest, then how could he the (Pope/Anti-Christ) turn against and destroy himself/his church, only to survive the rest of the tribulation as the Anti-Christ???

People you need to get educated and read God's word (Yes, read your KJV Bible!) and not just the parts you
want to read. Read it until you can memorize it, that is why its valuable to you and God gave it to us. No
wonder so many people will be deceived; your already deceiving yourselves!

Anti-Christ - World Figure
Not necessarily Political, but He will fill that world role.

Pope - False Prophet
Who is destroyed by the Beast (The Anti-Christ) sometime during the Great Tribulation! and therefore can not be the
Anti-Christ as some are claiming

Satan - Is Satan, who else?
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The Antichrist/Antichristus/Antichristum is everyone, it's the fucken behavior of everyone you morans.

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You are talking about the spirit of the Anti-Christ, which is alive in the world, and not the the entity persona.
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I thought everyone realised that Obama is the anti-christ and Petrus Romanos will be the false prohet.
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What will Antichrist and False Prophet have in Common?

Both will be preforming on the 3/22/13. banana2

Obama will be ‘standing in the holy place' while Cardinal Bertone will be having his papal inauguration.

Could both these events be held in Jerusalem?
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What time line are you in??? who said anything other than yourself about Christians declaring war against the United States???

Please do us all a favor and step off of my planet! I proudly served 20+years in the Military, which gets me a little more background then your simple mind and is probably more than you wish you could do for the good of this country.

And yes, your welcome too foo1!
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that's a pretty good cover story...20+ years in the military...probably as an infiltrator.

Daniel was a traitor who benefited from the destruction of Judah a bit too much. He was too close to Nebuchadnezzar. No one that quotes Daniel can be trusted.

Christians are quite obviously at war with the United States...and the Anti-Christ scenario is one they've used in the past to snake a powerful man out of a high place.

its a difficult place to arrive at, but it was bound to happen. when your religion and your status as a citizen of the United States became mutually exclusive...but here we are.
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The evil trinity

Revelation
16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
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I don't mean to offend you my friend, but really is that the best you can do!? "What a cover story , blah, blah, and Blah!"
I have no reason to pretend to be someone I'm not.

I know I have walked through this world more than once. and if you in your vague screwy way of thinking want's to believe otherwise than you are welcome to do so.

But in the end you will have no one else to blame but yourself for your own foolishness, and I truly pity you!
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Sorry OP i can try to explain to you but you seem to think that the CREATOR only had his hand in one of the three monotheisic religions, i believe he sent his Prophets and Messengers for all 3, and each one has a role to play.

Let me just throw this curve ball at you, do you believe there are treacherous Angels, and maybe some have decided to help the AC and that is why he is more powerful and dangerous than ever.

Think of the AC as that Agent Smith in the Matrix, very similar except the AC takes over your soul and you become his minion doing his bidding, some may know they belong to the AC and most may not.

Sorry OP but the world is too fucked up on all levels for me not to believe that something has changed or is not going as intended, treacherous angels are a reason for this.
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