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The Anti-Christ is a world figure, and is not the Pope!

 
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Career of Antichrist from Daniel 11

using Antiochus Epiphanes as his type



Antiochus was the King of Syria, the ruler of the Seleucid Kingdom that was one of the four divisions of Alexander the Great’s empire after his death. If the Antichrist is according to type, he will probably come from the same area of origin.



Daniel 11:21à



Dan. 11:21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.

Antichrist comes in peaceably through the use of deceit/propaganda.



Dan. 11:22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.

Identifies Antichrist as the “prince of the covenant.” (The Hebrew words read as indicated above. Some words obviously go with the main Hebrew word, but it is important to see that “they” and “yea, also” are not in the Hebrew.)



Dan. 11:23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.

“After the league made with him” – Does this refer to the covenant of 7 years referenced in 9:27?

Dan. 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Dan. 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

If so, this verse indicates that he will act in deceit re that covenant as indicated by the breaking of the covenant in 9:27. I think this is saying that he never intended to abide by the terms of the covenant; he was just moving forward his own agenda. From a small power base at the time of the covenant, he will assume a position of great power.



Dan. 11:24 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers’ fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.

In the beginning he will advance his cause as a man of peace and will share the wealth he accumulates in his rise to power with those that support/follow him. He will seem to be against evil strongholds for a period of time (the first

3.5 years of the tribulation).



Dan. 11:25 And he shall stir up his power and his courage against the king of the south with a great army; and the king of the south shall be stirred up to battle with a very great and mighty army; but he shall not stand: for they shall forecast devices against him.

Eventually, with a large army he will decide to advance against the King of the South (Egypt and its allies) who will in turn respond with his own great army; but the King of the South will be defeated.



Dan. 11:26 Yea, they that feed of the portion of his meat shall destroy him, and his army shall overflow: and many shall fall down slain.

In fact, the King of the South will be sabotaged by those of his own family/allies. Many will die as his army is defeated.



Dan. 11:27 And both these kings’ hearts shall be to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time appointed.

This verse makes it sound like Antichrist and the King of the South will make a public display of negotiating for peace while trying to deceive each other in the process. Their charades will mean nothing, since God’s timetable is sure and will continue on schedule.



Dan. 11:28 Then shall he return into his land with great riches; and his heart shall be against the holy covenant; and he shall do exploits, and return to his own land.

Dan. 11:29 At the time appointed he shall return, and come toward the south; but it shall not be as the former, or as the latter.

Antichrist will return home with great riches. On his way home through Israel he will cause destruction. “At the time appointed” (on God’s timetable), Antichrist will again come toward the South. This time the results will differ from the previous two times the King of the North has attacked the King of the South.



Dan. 11:30 For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.

This time the great Roman/western navy will intervene on behalf of Egypt and its allies. Antichrist will be very angry at his defeat, and will take out his anger on Israel. Those who give him support will be rewarded.



(7/05) This poses a question. Who is this western navy? I thought he would have the European Union/Rome under control at this time.



Dan. 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

His soldiers will wreck the temple area and prohibit the offering of the daily sacrifice. They will then place/erect the “abomination that maketh desolate.” (cf Matt 24:15 - When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand.))



Dan. 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.

Antichrist will deceive many with his charismatic speech. Those who truly know God will stand firm in their faith in word and deed.



Dan. 11:33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.

Those who have spiritual wisdom will teach many in spite of the fact that they will face death by standing firm in their faith and sharing it.



Dan. 11:34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.

These soldiers of faith will receive very little help/support, and some of those who say they are supporting them will be deceiving them.



Dan. 11:35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.

The people of faith will suffer as a process of purging (making more fruitful) and spiritual cleansing (becoming more Christ-like). Still, events are happening according to God’s timetable.



Dan. 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

During this last half of the tribulation, the Antichrist will be able to act at will. He will blaspheme God. He will appear to prosper until the time of Jacob’s trouble has been completed. Again, God’s purposes will be accomplished through this entire terrible time according to God’s timetable.



Dan. 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

Antichrist will not “regard the God of his fathers.” The Hebrew more accurately reads “gods”; the article the is not in the original. (When the article accompanies the Hebrew word, it often refers to Deity.) He will not “desire” women; this sounds like he will be homosexual. He will not recognize any other god, because he will exalt himself as God.



Dan. 11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

Antichrist will honor the god of forces (defense, rock, fortress, strength, strongholds). This verse indicates that this was a god his fathers didn’t know. That part is confusing since many in the past have recognized and placed their faith in military might.

Webster – Stronghold = a fortified place; a place of security.

I can’t really find support in the original language that I’m seeking, but I can’t help but make a connection here to Satan and his spiritual forces. We know that according to Revelation 13:4, the people worship the dragon, Satan, the power behind the beast/Antichrist.

Rev. 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

Maybe it is a double reference—a military power empowered by the spirits of evil.



The more I have thought about it, I think this is a reference to Satan. Men have always worshipped gods/idols, but have never openly worshipped Satan until more recent times.



Dan. 11:39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

Evidently, Antichrist will be emboldened to attack those of recognized might and power and will reward those who support him with positions as rulers over designated lands. This implies a man of great power, yet still with enemies to conquer.



Dan. 11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

Dan. 11:41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.

“At the time of the end” (of the 7 years?) Egypt and her allies will decide to attack the Antichrist and his armies one more time. The Antichrist will launch his offensive from air, land and sea, and will invade and conquer the countries that are in his path, including Israel. The lands of Moab, Edom, and Ammon (modern Jordan) will escape harm at this time (because of Petra?).



(7/05) Another question arises. If the narrative is chronological, I would have placed this with verse 31, referencing the abomination of desolation and the middle of the tribulation. I think I’m missing something.



Dan. 11:42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.

Dan. 11:43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

As he increases his sphere of power, Egypt won’t escape being conquered, as well as Libya and the Ethiopians. The riches from these nations will be used for his purposes.



Dan. 11:44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.

In time, Antichrist will get news from the east and north that will trouble him. (He is the King of the North; is he suspecting an overthrow attempt? Is this a reference to the 6th bowl judgment in Revelation 16:12?--And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.)



Dan. 11:45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

Antichrist heads for home with great anger and destroys anyone who gets in his way. This is when he decides to make his headquarters in Jerusalem. By then, time will have run out. God’s timetable calls for his destruction at this time.

(cf Rev 19:11-20)
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Sounds like someone we know.

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Now we are getting somewhere.

Revelation 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Spiritually sodom and egypt? Why? Because Daniel tells us the man of perdition does not favor women. He is a homosexual; so the spirit of sodom is prevalent. Why egypt? Because the egyptology will be used to explain the new world religion.

Now look at Ezekiel29:8 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will bring a sword upon thee, and cut off man and beast out of thee.

9 And the land of Egypt shall be desolate and waste; and they shall know that I am the Lord: because he hath said, The river is mine, and I have made it.

10 Behold, therefore I am against thee, and against thy rivers, and I will make the land of Egypt utterly waste and desolate, from the tower of Syene even unto the border of Ethiopia.

11 No foot of man shall pass through it, nor foot of beast shall pass through it, neither shall it be inhabited forty years.

12 And I will make the land of Egypt desolate in the midst of the countries that are desolate, and her cities among the cities that are laid waste shall be desolate forty years: and I will scatter the Egyptians among the nations, and will disperse them through the countries.

13 Yet thus saith the Lord God; At the end of forty years will I gather the Egyptians from the people whither they were scattered:

You remember the generation born in egypt was not allowed to pass into the Promised Land. This is the number of years it takes to cleanse the land.
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Quoting above:

There have been many people throughout history (Hitler, Nero, Napoleon) that could have been ascribe as the A/C simply because we the people made scripture fit the person we wanted it too.

In this sense there were many other anti-Christs throughout time, but the Bible specifically warns each of us to be watching for as it relates to end time events.

God's word is very specific, no one will know who the actual A/C is until his appointed time, which God provided us with two important clues should we miss the first one.

Daniel 9:27 and Mark 13:14, God allows us to know this ahead of time so that those who are faithful and watching the signs will know without a doubt who the real A/C is.

I don't about Obama or anyone else at this time, nor does anyone know his identity at this point in time, it all speculation as to who he is, but through God word we can eliminate who the A/C isn't, and he isn't the POPE!

Praise God!
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Quoting above:

There have been many people throughout history (Hitler, Nero, Napoleon) that could have been ascribe as the A/C simply because we the people made scripture fit the person we wanted it too.

In this sense there were many other anti-Christs throughout time, but the Bible specifically warns each of us to be watching for as it relates to end time events.

God's word is very specific, no one will know who the actual A/C is until his appointed time, which God provided us with two important clues should we miss the first one.

Daniel 9:27 and Mark 13:14, God allows us to know this ahead of time so that those who are faithful and watching the signs will know without a doubt who the real A/C is.

I don't about Obama or anyone else at this time, nor does anyone know his identity at this point in time, it all speculation as to who he is, but through God word we can eliminate who the A/C isn't, and he isn't the POPE!

Praise God!
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You are incorrect about knowing who it is. I do. But for Christians that is not really important. It is preparing for the Son of Man. Remember what I said about guesswork? That is called doubt and it comes from the original sin. Go back and reread what is said in the John16:12-15 post, and the post on the secret of the fig tree.
This is very important. Revelation 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. John thinks this is important otherwise he wouldn't have told you to make sure you heard it.

Pray for your name in the Book of Life and thank God through his Son in advance.

Mr. Mike, you should join GLP.
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The Anti-Christ is a world political figure who rises to power quickly, and is assassinated 3 1/2 years into the tribulation.

He will lie in state of mourning for 3 days before the
eyes of the world. After which he will be indwelt with Satan and rise again, and the world will marvel after the beast who received a deadly wound to the head and yet returned from the dead.

The Pope (The false Prophet) will undoubtedly somehow take part in this Satanic ritual in bringing
the Anti-Christ back form the dead.

If the pope were the Anti-Christ as some of you suggest, then how could he the (Pope/Anti-Christ) turn against and destroy himself/his church, only to survive the rest of the tribulation as the Anti-Christ???

People you need to get educated and read God's word (Yes, read your KJV Bible!) and not just the parts you
want to read. Read it until you can memorize it, that is why its valuable to you and God gave it to us. No
wonder so many people will be deceived; your already deceiving yourselves!

Anti-Christ - World Figure
Not necessarily Political, but He will fill that world role.

Pope - False Prophet
Who is destroyed by the Beast (The Anti-Christ) sometime during the Great Tribulation! and therefore can not be the
Anti-Christ as some are claiming

Satan - Is Satan, who else?
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nonsense.you do not study the Holy Bible.You study false prophets and accept what they say and repeat it.the pope isnt the "false prophet".There is NO false prophet.It is FALSE PROPHETS!!! there are MANY of them. All you people who repeat these things and refuse to even acknowledge the possibility that you ould be wrong is really starting to annoy.
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The Anti-Christ is a world political figure who rises to power quickly, and is assassinated 3 1/2 years into the tribulation.

He will lie in state of mourning for 3 days before the
eyes of the world. After which he will be indwelt with Satan and rise again, and the world will marvel after the beast who received a deadly wound to the head and yet returned from the dead.

The Pope (The false Prophet) will undoubtedly somehow take part in this Satanic ritual in bringing
the Anti-Christ back form the dead.

If the pope were the Anti-Christ as some of you suggest, then how could he the (Pope/Anti-Christ) turn against and destroy himself/his church, only to survive the rest of the tribulation as the Anti-Christ???

People you need to get educated and read God's word (Yes, read your KJV Bible!) and not just the parts you
want to read. Read it until you can memorize it, that is why its valuable to you and God gave it to us. No
wonder so many people will be deceived; your already deceiving yourselves!

Anti-Christ - World Figure
Not necessarily Political, but He will fill that world role.

Pope - False Prophet
Who is destroyed by the Beast (The Anti-Christ) sometime during the Great Tribulation! and therefore can not be the
Anti-Christ as some are claiming

Satan - Is Satan, who else?
 Quoting: Mr Mike 33468353

nonsense.you do not study the Holy Bible.You study false prophets and accept what they say and repeat it.the pope isnt the "false prophet".There is NO false prophet.It is FALSE PROPHETS!!! there are MANY of them. All you people who repeat these things and refuse to even acknowledge the possibility that you ould be wrong is really starting to annoy.
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The antipope is the false prophet. He walks against Peter. Peter is the rock. The dark ones mock the rock. They use words like Rollingstone, rollingrock, and rock n roll. There have been some figures on GLP that boasted of the fact that there assignment from satan was to do works against Peter.

As far as prophets for our God. What would you want to keep interpreting a cursed time that is of the spirit of the antichrist? The time 60seconds, 60 minutes, and 24 hours makes 666 in time components in numerology. Our Father said, unless the days are shortened no flesh would be saved, but for the elect''s sake it will be. This is the reason why. It would be better to announce for the coming Kingdom.
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My dear friend, please stop, I understand you are only trying to help, but your not if we are both claiming that the Holy spirit guides us then why is there so much division between us, should the Holy spirit agree with/confirm what the Holy spirit is saying???

I agree one should know thy enemy, however your acceptance
of what you describe as the "dark ones" knowledge is teetering on delusional and dangerous doctrine

This really make us Christians look dumb and ignorant to as to the truth; this is not helping anyone,especially those who are earnestly seeking the truth. I believe you are Christian although somewhat confused, and wish you would start you own thread/post

Or I ask that you at least refrain yourself from posting on here, now I do respect your opinion, but if you are only countering the truth with half truths,you are not doing God a service or his will.

Do you not know how much more God will hold you accountable for knowing the truth and spreading his word to others! I'm afraid that if you persist, I will have no other recourse both to consider you as an enemy of God and not a servant.

I do not pretend to know all things, but I know that God will hold me personally accountable for what I say to others concerning his (Gods) word.

I am not warning you by my own accord, but again what God tells each of of in his own word!

Praise to God!

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Show me where it speaks about the false prophet as being more than one
Yes there are many but there is one specifically dealing with end-times events

Note below, it says false prophet (singular) not prophets (plural) you Moron,
I glow tired of you dumb people from down under. Talk about annoying!

And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Revelations 20:10
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Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way

My dear friend, please stop, I understand you are only trying to help, but your not if we are both claiming that the Holy spirit guides us then why is there so much division between us, should the Holy spirit agree with/confirm what the Holy spirit is saying???

I agree one should know thy enemy, however your acceptance
of what you describe as the "dark ones" knowledge is teetering on delusional and dangerous doctrine

This really make us Christians look dumb and ignorant to as to the truth; this is not helping anyone,especially those who are earnestly seeking the truth. I believe you are Christian although somewhat confused, and wish you would start you own thread/post

Or I ask that you at least refrain yourself from posting on here, now I do respect your opinion, but if you are only countering the truth with half truths,you are not doing God a service or his will.

Do you not know how much more God will hold you accountable for knowing the truth and spreading his word to others! I'm afraid that if you persist, I will have no other recourse both to consider you as an enemy of God and not a servant.

I do not pretend to know all things, but I know that God will hold me personally accountable for what I say to others concerning his (Gods) word.

I am not warning you by my own accord, but again what God tells each of of in his own word!

Praise to God!

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Quoting: Australian Wonder above

Show me where it speaks about the false prophet as being more than one
Yes there are many but there is one specifically dealing with end-times events

Note below, it says false prophet (singular) not prophets (plural) you Moron,
I glow tired of you dumb people from down under. Talk about annoying!

And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Revelations 20:10
 Quoting: Mr Mike 33468353

You are wrong about this. You should let your ego get out of the way. This is my last post on this thread. I wipe the dust from my feet. Just because you feel led by the Holy Spirt doesn't give you the whole truth otherwise the apostles would not have suffered and died in their ministries. The endtimes would have been then. It is a time released curse that is being shortened everyday until the beginning touches the end. Christ is the alpha and omega. He said the first shall be last and the last shall be first. THE BEGINNING MEETS THE END!!! GET A CLUE!!!!! It has been a long journey. The truth is revealed in the endtimes. Do I have all the answers. No. That is not God's intent, but you are in guesswork. I told you how to get out of it by using what? Scripture!!!!!! The rest is up to you.
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And I sincerely thank you and wish you well!

Cheers!
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Boy, I'm glad I didn't mention the UFO's/Aliens are really demons masquerading as Aliens! I could imagine the grief I would get off all of that stuff!

Geez guys can I get a little air, here!

But even so, praise God!
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Thread: Queen Hospitalized-Rome Trip Cancelled (Page 3)

Any change Prince William is the antichrist?
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Nop.

The wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton will be a joyous occasion but it also marks the 66th anniversary of the bizarre and macabre union of Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun as the Third Reich collapsed.

[link to www.mirror.co.uk]


This is rather worrying than funny, it´s a further numerological indication (the illumis love it) that William is being prepared for a task similar to that of Adolph Hitler! (WWIII)

The Nazi Roots of the House of Windsor
[link to american_almanac.tripod.com]
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You very well could be right, Prince Charles is who I'm staying with for the moment until more information can be ascertained on other possible A/C candidates.

I do believe the house of Windsor will play a significant role, but only time will tell for sure.
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You very well could be right, Prince Charles is who I'm staying with for the moment until more information can be ascertained on other possible A/C candidates.

I do believe the house of Windsor will play a significant role, but only time will tell for sure.
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I believe its Prince William

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Who are you Guided bye O' Guidedone??? I'm the idiot, I don't think so! What don't you understand you fool!? as I told you it is the Devil who indwells the dead body of the Anti-Christ which in of itself suggests they are two separate entities.

Both I assure you the Devil will enter the Anti-Christ, and the two shall become as one. Just as God and Jesus are two separate entities and yet one in the same!

As Jesus himself stated, "Whoever has seen me has seen the Father!" John 14:9.

It is idiots like you, that need to wake up fool!
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The Anti-Christ is a world political figure who rises to power quickly, and is assassinated 3 1/2 years into the tribulation.

He will lie in state of mourning for 3 days before the
eyes of the world. After which he will be indwelt with Satan and rise again, and the world will marvel after the beast who received a deadly wound to the head and yet returned from the dead.

The Pope (The false Prophet) will undoubtedly somehow take part in this Satanic ritual in bringing
the Anti-Christ back form the dead.

If the pope were the Anti-Christ as some of you suggest, then how could he the (Pope/Anti-Christ) turn against and destroy himself/his church, only to survive the rest of the tribulation as the Anti-Christ???

People you need to get educated and read God's word (Yes, read your KJV Bible!) and not just the parts you
want to read. Read it until you can memorize it, that is why its valuable to you and God gave it to us. No
wonder so many people will be deceived; your already deceiving yourselves!

Anti-Christ - World Figure
Not necessarily Political, but He will fill that world role.

Pope - False Prophet
Who is destroyed by the Beast (The Anti-Christ) sometime during the Great Tribulation! and therefore can not be the
Anti-Christ as some are claiming

Satan - Is Satan, who else?
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LOL

Preaching three years and an half
Staying three days in mourning state before the eye of the world
Them dwelt with 'his Father' before rising again from death

Isn't it an 'already' happened story?

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03/04/2013 12:09 PM
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Re: The Anti-Christ is a world figure, and is not the Pope!
Not again, Tell me where is this story of yours that you claimed it already happened!? Please explain yourself or remain silent and learn something for a change.
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03/04/2013 01:54 PM
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Not again, Tell me where is this story of yours that you claimed it already happened!? Please explain yourself or remain silent and learn something for a change.
 Quoting: Mr Mike 33468353


It's the story of your so great savior that was rewriten to the Antichrist flavour.

AH, You're preaching a book that is beyond human understanding and think you're all right?

You better keep you're advices for yourself, I've remained in silence for too long now. LOL
You don't even know what I am able to...
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03/04/2013 01:57 PM
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Re: The Anti-Christ is a world figure, and is not the Pope!
It's George Soros.
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Quoting: PPP

You don't even know what I am able to...

What is all this gibberish about??? Look it's okay to admit you don't know anything, but please go and post somewhere else, and do not waste my time; you are a hindrance to those who are seeking out the truth!

Even So, Praise God!
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03/04/2013 02:24 PM
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Quoting: PPP

You don't even know what I am able to...

What is all this gibberish about??? Look it's okay to admit you don't know anything, but please go and post somewhere else, and do not waste my time; you are a hindrance to those who are seeking out the truth!

Even So, Praise God!
 Quoting: MrMike 33468353


What do you think of :princewilliam:
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03/04/2013 02:29 PM
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Quoting above posts: Its George Soros

Are you speculating, stating, or asking??? if your speculating that's fine as it anyone's guess at this point in time, if you are stating it, Where is your proof, other than you own words! If you are asking, then No, I do not believe he is the one as I have already stated and showed in my previous posts.

Either way if you are speculating or stating it, if you have no valid proof to suggest you are right, then why are you wasting all of our time including yours by posting frivolous
posts/comments!

Praise God!
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03/04/2013 02:33 PM
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Quoting ***ClappaGuy***

No offense to you, but I believe we already covered this earlier; Please refer to my earlier posts, Thank you!

And yes, you may be right!!! ;)
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03/04/2013 03:02 PM
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Re: The Anti-Christ is a world figure, and is not the Pope!
The Anti-Christ is a world political figure who rises to power quickly, and is assassinated 3 1/2 years into the tribulation.

He will lie in state of mourning for 3 days before the
eyes of the world. After which he will be indwelt with Satan and rise again, and the world will marvel after the beast who received a deadly wound to the head and yet returned from the dead.

The Pope (The false Prophet) will undoubtedly somehow take part in this Satanic ritual in bringing
the Anti-Christ back form the dead.

If the pope were the Anti-Christ as some of you suggest, then how could he the (Pope/Anti-Christ) turn against and destroy himself/his church, only to survive the rest of the tribulation as the Anti-Christ???

People you need to get educated and read God's word (Yes, read your KJV Bible!) and not just the parts you
want to read. Read it until you can memorize it, that is why its valuable to you and God gave it to us. No
wonder so many people will be deceived; your already deceiving yourselves!

Anti-Christ - World Figure
Not necessarily Political, but He will fill that world role.

Pope - False Prophet
Who is destroyed by the Beast (The Anti-Christ) sometime during the Great Tribulation! and therefore can not be the
Anti-Christ as some are claiming

Satan - Is Satan, who else?
 Quoting: Mr Mike 33468353

Pope's have always been anti christ
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Quoting: nzreva

Yeah that's a true statement given that the Catholic Church
is really Anti-Christian, from a Biblical perspective; But the Pope himself is not the actual A/C (The Person incarnate!)

But the Pope (The false Prophet) does represent the religious leg/side of the Devil's/Anti-Christ's unholy trinity!

(Please move along folks, there nothing else here to see!)
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03/04/2013 03:31 PM
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bump
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Re: The Anti-Christ is a world figure, and is not the Pope!
Wrong again! The antichrist POWER is the Papacy and the man at the "head of the power" is the POPE! Ummm NEWSFLASH the antichrist will come from RIGHT within the church and be BOTH political AND religious in nature... it's the Papacy, it can be NO other power on earth! The Papacy is BOTH political AND religious! They have their own "state", their own "currency" their own diplomats that go to every country. NEWSFLASH, the Pope is a WORLD WIDE figure, ummm just incase you haven't noticed all the hype about them in the news lately!
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And STOP taking the 70th week of Daniel OUT OF ITS CONTEXT and throwing it thousands of years into the future and trying to make it apply to the antichrist when it foretold JESUS! Ya'll seriously do not know your bibles!
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03/04/2013 03:41 PM
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It's sad to see so many people confused about Daniel and Revelation and the antichrist, the US and the events that will happen before Jesus comes. It's very sad to see so many deceived about a FAKE and false rapture theory and a 7 year tribultion period of which there is NOTHING in the Bible that states that!
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You really sound like a child on a temper tantrum, stop this! stop that! Yet, you offer nothing but rants and raves, you can believe whatever lie you would like too.

But I respectfully request you keep your half truths and lies to yourself; what's truly sad is that individuals like yourself knows only enough to be dangerous with the poison you've heard and like to spread.

Where is all your facts!? I hear you, but I don't see your point, other then don't did this, or don't do that! If you don't like the truth then return to your lie.

For if there is no truth, there only remains a lie.

Praise God!
nzreva

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Re: The Anti-Christ is a world figure, and is not the Pope!
And STOP taking the 70th week of Daniel OUT OF ITS CONTEXT and throwing it thousands of years into the future and trying to make it apply to the antichrist when it foretold JESUS! Ya'll seriously do not know your bibles!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1580547


It is always interesting to me when people say STOP.
If you can explain it then I would like to hear it. I took a whole class in theology studying this and you who says STOP says nothing. We who have stuied Daniel's prophesy do take it seriously. WE'll meaning me do know my bible in Greek and Hebrew, so if you want to make a statement about this issue I would appreciate you to be more serious.
If the Pope and all Popes have been the antichrist, then the issue is, who will be the anti christ? It is related to Danial's writings....





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