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idk about all that shit, but I can thoroughly agree that most people are dirty animals and need to live with more dignity and honor.
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Hello. My real name is Jonathan. I'm a jeweller and businessman by trade. I have two bechelors degrees--one in Molecular Biology and another in Secondary Math Education. I have a master degree in Psychology.

I am Jewish. I am NOT a Zionist. I am opposed to Zionism as an ideology. I respect the Lord. I am devoted to His commandments. I have failed many times and I certainly will fail again. But thank the Lord for forgiveness.

Politically, I am a libertarian. I don't care about anyone's sexuality, drug use/abuse, religion or political affiliation. Believe it or not, you can be the complete opposite of me and yet I'll probably still like you--and I will certainly love you. You are you. I am me. We can get along--no matter what.

I am a Mason. I am a Master Mason, a Companion of the Holy Royal Arch and a Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret. I'm not here to defend Masonry but I am happy to say that the "conspirasphere" has Masonry all wrong. Masonry is a way to make men into better men--charitable, just, neat, clean and Godly. Many here might disagree but Masons here KNOW.

I believe in decorum. I believe in civility. I believe in respect. Life is good. Let's not foul it up with bullshit. Let's not revert to animals. That's what I say.

I believe in the Lord. I believe in the Lord of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I shamelessly worship the Lord--He is our Father--and a finer father, you could not have. The Lord provides. Need I say more?

I believe in Jesus. Yes, you read that correctly. I'm Jewish but I believe that Jesus was an exceptional son of the Lord. I've read the New Testament--several times with tears in my eyes. I believe that Jesus was sent here by the Lord and He did what had to be done--and ALL of us were beneficiaries of His life and death. I praise Jesus and I respect Christians. No finer people will you find in this world than the merciful followers of Jesus. Many will say that Christians are hateful but I only hope that these people have the chance to meet true followers of Jesus' words.

Most importantly, I don't claim to "know" anything (in the hard sense). I am as much a fool as anyone else. I may have saved this for last but it is the most important thing I could say.

Thanks for reading. You may find this thread to be pointless, and yet it is likely the most honest thing you will read tonight/today at GLP.

G-d bless.
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GOD....there is No Hyphen in GOD
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You Disrespect Christians when You Jew's, spell their God's name with a Hyphen
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You Christians disrespect Jews when you imply they are some how inferior or have a less-than-righteous standing with HaShem because their practices and traditions are different than yours. If OP was wearing a Kippuh would you knock it off his head and spit on it too?
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You don't find any contradiction or conflict between being a mason and believing in God?

You should.
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I'm not here to argue. But you might be surprised to know that a man can not be a Mason unless he believes in G-d.
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Very true, brother. Scot Irish/Creek mix here with a very, VERY similar background and belief set. Wishing you the best...


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I'm Spanish, Cuban, Italian and on my Moms side Scottish, Irish and Creek also!! :D Very cool. Nice to meet you, Brother!

Idol1

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Hello. My real name is Jonathan. I'm a jeweller and businessman by trade. I have two bechelors degrees--one in Molecular Biology and another in Secondary Math Education. I have a master degree in Psychology.

I am Jewish. I am NOT a Zionist. I am opposed to Zionism as an ideology. I respect the Lord. I am devoted to His commandments. I have failed many times and I certainly will fail again. But thank the Lord for forgiveness.

Politically, I am a libertarian. I don't care about anyone's sexuality, drug use/abuse, religion or political affiliation. Believe it or not, you can be the complete opposite of me and yet I'll probably still like you--and I will certainly love you. You are you. I am me. We can get along--no matter what.

I am a Mason. I am a Master Mason, a Companion of the Holy Royal Arch and a Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret. I'm not here to defend Masonry but I am happy to say that the "conspirasphere" has Masonry all wrong. Masonry is a way to make men into better men--charitable, just, neat, clean and Godly. Many here might disagree but Masons here KNOW.

I believe in decorum. I believe in civility. I believe in respect. Life is good. Let's not foul it up with bullshit. Let's not revert to animals. That's what I say.

I believe in the Lord. I believe in the Lord of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I shamelessly worship the Lord--He is our Father--and a finer father, you could not have. The Lord provides. Need I say more?

I believe in Jesus. Yes, you read that correctly. I'm Jewish but I believe that Jesus was an exceptional son of the Lord. I've read the New Testament--several times with tears in my eyes. I believe that Jesus was sent here by the Lord and He did what had to be done--and ALL of us were beneficiaries of His life and death. I praise Jesus and I respect Christians. No finer people will you find in this world than the merciful followers of Jesus. Many will say that Christians are hateful but I only hope that these people have the chance to meet true followers of Jesus' words.

Most importantly, I don't claim to "know" anything (in the hard sense). I am as much a fool as anyone else. I may have saved this for last but it is the most important thing I could say.

Thanks for reading. You may find this thread to be pointless, and yet it is likely the most honest thing you will read tonight/today at GLP.

G-d bless.
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As a Jew, do you believe the OT, or the Talmud, is the governing Scripture?
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You don't find any contradiction or conflict between being a mason and believing in God?

You should.
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I'm not here to argue. But you might be surprised to know that a man can not be a Mason unless he believes in G-d.
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OP, what's with you responding with a Capital G hyphen d?
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You don't find any contradiction or conflict between being a mason and believing in God?

You should.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


I'm not here to argue. But you might be surprised to know that a man can not be a Mason unless he believes in G-d.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


OP, what's with you responding with a Capital G hyphen d?
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*facepalm*

Since some people on here obviously do not read I will say it again.

"The custom of substituting the word "God" with G-d in English is based on the traditional practice in Jewish law of giving God's Hebrew name a high degree of respect and reverence. When written or printed, God's Hebrew name (and many of the stand in names used to refer to God) cannot be erased or destroyed. (See below)

There is no prohibition in Jewish law against writing out or erasing the word "God" in English. However, many Jews have afforded the word "God" with the same level of respect as the Hebrew equivalents. Because of this, many Jews substitute "God with G-d so that they can erase or dispose of the writing without showing disrespect to God. Some Jews also use G!d in the same way, utilizing the exclamation point to convey their enthusiasm for Judaism and God."

[link to judaism.about.com]
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Every single thing you said was a blatant, glaring contradiction. You can't profess to hold the degrees you claim you do when you obviously never successfully completed the 4th Grade.
You can't possibly be a Christian if you're a Mason, and you can't possibly be the level of Masonry you claim, because if you were, you certainly wouldn't be here bragging about it.
Lastly, your vulgar blasphemy of Jesus makes it quite apparent that the master you serve is the one who resides in the pits of hell.


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Thank you for sharing yourself with us, OP. There is nothing more courageous than vetting yourself in front of so many other people, especially when some are so mean spirited and hurtful. Thank you for being so courageous, and honest.

To me, you seem like someone in which the old ways have joined the new, both literally and figuratively. Your mind is as open as any I've ever heard, and your humility is without comparison.

You have my utmost respect and admiration for doing what you just did, and you will have others as well. Thank you again for being so brave and sacrificing yourself like this :-)
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Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.
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Two bechelors degrees? Is that like a Bachelor's degree for dumb people?
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he meant belchelor's. it's like a bachelors, but you have to
shotgun a case of milwaukee's best and burp your whole final exam without stopping.
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lol
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am a Master Mason, a Companion of the Holy Royal Arch and a Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret. I'm not here to defend Masonry but I am happy to say that the "conspirasphere" has Masonry all wrong. Masonry is a way to make men into better men--charitable, just, neat, clean and Godly. Many here might disagree but Masons here KNOW.

Yet many Masons will stand by their brother when there is undeniable proof he is a pedophile or has killed someone. That isn't neat, clean, or GODLY. The Freemasons are a brotherhood organization for men to do whatever the fuck they want and to not face any consequences of their actions. It's why many Freemasons are lawyers, judges, politicians, doctors, and higher up the ladder so they can let their accused brother go easily.

On the surface and at the lower levels they're just a helpful, charitable MIRAGE. At the higher ranks you have no idea what they're involved in.
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You don't find any contradiction or conflict between being a mason and believing in God?

You should.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


I'm not here to argue. But you might be surprised to know that a man can not be a Mason unless he believes in G-d.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


OP, what's with you responding with a Capital G hyphen d?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20130269


*facepalm*

Since some people on here obviously do not read I will say it again.

"The custom of substituting the word "God" with G-d in English is based on the traditional practice in Jewish law of giving God's Hebrew name a high degree of respect and reverence. When written or printed, God's Hebrew name (and many of the stand in names used to refer to God) cannot be erased or destroyed. (See below)

There is no prohibition in Jewish law against writing out or erasing the word "God" in English. However, many Jews have afforded the word "God" with the same level of respect as the Hebrew equivalents. Because of this, many Jews substitute "God with G-d so that they can erase or dispose of the writing without showing disrespect to God. Some Jews also use G!d in the same way, utilizing the exclamation point to convey their enthusiasm for Judaism and God."

[link to judaism.about.com]
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I don't understand why there would be a need to erase the word God, or its equivalents...?
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Look...all of the stuff you said above is "nice"...but, here is what I have heard from people whose direct kin are masons...

The first initiation is to lie in a coffin and masturbate in front of the rest of the members.

This, to me, is done to get the person in a "compromised" position. The reason for the compromised position...to be able to blackmail the person into future actions.

Deny all you want...my source is 100% believable.
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Well, since your source is "100% believable" (to YOU), then it's pointless for me to argue...

BUT, for myself and every Mason I know, we'd say your "source" is just fucking with you. Seriously. What you are describing is some wacky shit--and a good way to get chased OUT of the Lodge.
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Ummm...the individual I know is not the only source for said activity...
[link to webcache.googleusercontent.com]
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ohno If it's on the internet it MUST be true!

peace
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Perhaps reading is not one of your strong points? If you had read the thread, I said that somebody I know has relatives who are Masons. The person I know was told by relatives that masturbation in coffins was part of THEIR (as in the relatives masturbated in a coffin) initiation. The web source would only be corroboration.
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Unfortunately you're MUCH too low a level of mason to know the truth of what the masonic order truly stands for. Only the highest levels have been shown what they consider to be truth (Luciferianism). The rest of the order is kept in the dark to blindly defend it as being "honorable". Please, for your own sake, dig deeper - but be careful. If they think you are trying to expose them, your life will be in grave danger.

Spoken from someone who knows.
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Thank you for sharing yourself with us, OP. There is nothing more courageous than vetting yourself in front of so many other people, especially when some are so mean spirited and hurtful. Thank you for being so courageous, and honest.

To me, you seem like someone in which the old ways have joined the new, both literally and figuratively. Your mind is as open as any I've ever heard, and your humility is without comparison.

You have my utmost respect and admiration for doing what you just did, and you will have others as well. Thank you again for being so brave and sacrificing yourself like this :-)
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I hope you don't mean honest discussion is mean-spirited?

It would be good for him to follow-up with responses to the

discussion, otherwise his bravery will kinda fall flat...
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hf
thank you for letting us know so much about your personal life.
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Well, since your source is "100% believable" (to YOU), then it's pointless for me to argue...

BUT, for myself and every Mason I know, we'd say your "source" is just fucking with you. Seriously. What you are describing is some wacky shit--and a good way to get chased OUT of the Lodge.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


Ummm...the individual I know is not the only source for said activity...
[link to webcache.googleusercontent.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35096685


ohno If it's on the internet it MUST be true!

peace
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Perhaps reading is not one of your strong points? If you had read the thread, I said that somebody I know has relatives who are Masons. The person I know was told by relatives that masturbation in coffins was part of THEIR (as in the relatives masturbated in a coffin) initiation. The web source would only be corroboration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35096685


I have PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, AUNTS AND UNCLES in the Masons / Eastern Star / Rainbow Children and I know for a fact this isn't true. I trust my Family far more than I trust your "source". You know somebody who has 'relatives' in the Masons. Hmm..seems legit. I grew up in a Masonic household. I have been privy to a lot more than most people. I have close friends who have gone into the Craft. Funny, you can't even retort my comment without resulting to a personal attack, huh?
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I once worked with a 20 year mason. I mentioned some of the conspiracy stuff surrounding masonry. He had obviously never heard any such thing about masonry because he laughed so hard he liked to have fell out. He was a nice gentle man.
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Hello. My real name is Jonathan. I'm a jeweller and businessman by trade. I have two bechelors degrees--one in Molecular Biology and another in Secondary Math Education. I have a master degree in Psychology.

I am Jewish. I am NOT a Zionist. I am opposed to Zionism as an ideology. I respect the Lord. I am devoted to His commandments. I have failed many times and I certainly will fail again. But thank the Lord for forgiveness.

Politically, I am a libertarian. I don't care about anyone's sexuality, drug use/abuse, religion or political affiliation. Believe it or not, you can be the complete opposite of me and yet I'll probably still like you--and I will certainly love you. You are you. I am me. We can get along--no matter what.

I am a Mason. I am a Master Mason, a Companion of the Holy Royal Arch and a Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret. I'm not here to defend Masonry but I am happy to say that the "conspirasphere" has Masonry all wrong. Masonry is a way to make men into better men--charitable, just, neat, clean and Godly. Many here might disagree but Masons here KNOW.

I believe in decorum. I believe in civility. I believe in respect. Life is good. Let's not foul it up with bullshit. Let's not revert to animals. That's what I say.

I believe in the Lord. I believe in the Lord of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I shamelessly worship the Lord--He is our Father--and a finer father, you could not have. The Lord provides. Need I say more?

I believe in Jesus. Yes, you read that correctly. I'm Jewish but I believe that Jesus was an exceptional son of the Lord. I've read the New Testament--several times with tears in my eyes. I believe that Jesus was sent here by the Lord and He did what had to be done--and ALL of us were beneficiaries of His life and death. I praise Jesus and I respect Christians. No finer people will you find in this world than the merciful followers of Jesus. Many will say that Christians are hateful but I only hope that these people have the chance to meet true followers of Jesus' words.

Most importantly, I don't claim to "know" anything (in the hard sense). I am as much a fool as anyone else. I may have saved this for last but it is the most important thing I could say.

Thanks for reading. You may find this thread to be pointless, and yet it is likely the most honest thing you will read tonight/today at GLP.

G-d bless.
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As a Jew, do you believe the OT, or the Talmud, is the governing Scripture?
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Yes...BUT

I am a critical thinker.
A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum.
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Unfortunately you're MUCH too low a level of mason to know the truth of what the masonic order truly stands for. Only the highest levels have been shown what they consider to be truth (Luciferianism). The rest of the order is kept in the dark to blindly defend it as being "honorable". Please, for your own sake, dig deeper - but be careful. If they think you are trying to expose them, your life will be in grave danger.

Spoken from someone who knows.
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There is alot of information on this site. Explanation of symbols etc....


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Thank you for sharing yourself with us, OP. There is nothing more courageous than vetting yourself in front of so many other people, especially when some are so mean spirited and hurtful. Thank you for being so courageous, and honest.

To me, you seem like someone in which the old ways have joined the new, both literally and figuratively. Your mind is as open as any I've ever heard, and your humility is without comparison.

You have my utmost respect and admiration for doing what you just did, and you will have others as well. Thank you again for being so brave and sacrificing yourself like this :-)
 Quoting: Rising Son



I hope you don't mean honest discussion is mean-spirited?

It would be good for him to follow-up with responses to the

discussion, otherwise his bravery will kinda fall flat...
 Quoting: K.Kool


There is a difference between honesty and respect, and some do not seem to be able to use either in addressing others on this forum. He put himself out there, and that commands respect. I await his response as well.
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Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.
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I'm not here to argue. But you might be surprised to know that a man can not be a Mason unless he believes in G-d.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


OP, what's with you responding with a Capital G hyphen d?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20130269


*facepalm*

Since some people on here obviously do not read I will say it again.

"The custom of substituting the word "God" with G-d in English is based on the traditional practice in Jewish law of giving God's Hebrew name a high degree of respect and reverence. When written or printed, God's Hebrew name (and many of the stand in names used to refer to God) cannot be erased or destroyed. (See below)

There is no prohibition in Jewish law against writing out or erasing the word "God" in English. However, many Jews have afforded the word "God" with the same level of respect as the Hebrew equivalents. Because of this, many Jews substitute "God with G-d so that they can erase or dispose of the writing without showing disrespect to God. Some Jews also use G!d in the same way, utilizing the exclamation point to convey their enthusiasm for Judaism and God."

[link to judaism.about.com]
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I don't understand why there would be a need to erase the word God, or its equivalents...?
 Quoting: K.Kool


Please go back and read that again if you need clarification. And many Mainstream Churchians erase HaShem and prohibit the RUACH / HOLY SPIRIT from even entering into their "sanctuaries" which are little more than theaters or auditoriums for the performances they put on.
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Ummm...the individual I know is not the only source for said activity...
[link to webcache.googleusercontent.com]
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ohno If it's on the internet it MUST be true!

peace
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Perhaps reading is not one of your strong points? If you had read the thread, I said that somebody I know has relatives who are Masons. The person I know was told by relatives that masturbation in coffins was part of THEIR (as in the relatives masturbated in a coffin) initiation. The web source would only be corroboration.
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I have PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, AUNTS AND UNCLES in the Masons / Eastern Star / Rainbow Children and I know for a fact this isn't true. I trust my Family far more than I trust your "source". You know somebody who has 'relatives' in the Masons. Hmm..seems legit. I grew up in a Masonic household. I have been privy to a lot more than most people. I have close friends who have gone into the Craft. Funny, you can't even retort my comment without resulting to a personal attack, huh?
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Various lodges have different customs and rites.
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Unfortunately you're MUCH too low a level of mason to know the truth of what the masonic order truly stands for. Only the highest levels have been shown what they consider to be truth (Luciferianism). The rest of the order is kept in the dark to blindly defend it as being "honorable". Please, for your own sake, dig deeper - but be careful. If they think you are trying to expose them, your life will be in grave danger.

Spoken from someone who knows.
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clappa
Definitely not made for this world--at least not this century.

...you are dangerous to everyone---not because you are ungifted, but because you embrace evil with your teachings. In so doing, in trying to be kind, to be unselfish, in trying to be nonjudgmental, you allow evil to become far more powerful than it otherwise would. You refuse to see evil, and so you welcome it among you. You allow it to exist. You give it power over you. You are a people who have welcomed death and refuse to denounce it. You are an empire naked to the shadow of evil. Terry Goodkind, NAKED EMPIRE
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ohno If it's on the internet it MUST be true!

peace
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Perhaps reading is not one of your strong points? If you had read the thread, I said that somebody I know has relatives who are Masons. The person I know was told by relatives that masturbation in coffins was part of THEIR (as in the relatives masturbated in a coffin) initiation. The web source would only be corroboration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35096685


I have PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, AUNTS AND UNCLES in the Masons / Eastern Star / Rainbow Children and I know for a fact this isn't true. I trust my Family far more than I trust your "source". You know somebody who has 'relatives' in the Masons. Hmm..seems legit. I grew up in a Masonic household. I have been privy to a lot more than most people. I have close friends who have gone into the Craft. Funny, you can't even retort my comment without resulting to a personal attack, huh?
 Quoting: ///333\\\



Various lodges have different customs and rites.
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Which goes back to one of the previous posters who said NOT ALL MASONS are bad people. NOT ALL MASONS worship Lucifer. NOT ALL MASONS are deceptive and cold-hearted individuals. Would you like me to say all Christians are lying, cheating, stealing, hypocrites - that they are child molesters, rapists and genocidal/homicidal maniacs? Because if we're playing the all or nothing game we could easily turn the table on the Christian faith. But I digress, I am not that callous.
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Is this the same guy who said he uses hookers regularly and can score hot 20 somethings for 30 bucks and half an 8 ball? Good men better?
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OP, did you say this?
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Thank you for sharing yourself with us, OP. There is nothing more courageous than vetting yourself in front of so many other people, especially when some are so mean spirited and hurtful. Thank you for being so courageous, and honest.

To me, you seem like someone in which the old ways have joined the new, both literally and figuratively. Your mind is as open as any I've ever heard, and your humility is without comparison.

You have my utmost respect and admiration for doing what you just did, and you will have others as well. Thank you again for being so brave and sacrificing yourself like this :-)
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I concur.

I find it amazing how so many people have come out to sneer at him and call him names, rather than to greet him.

We are supposed to LOVE all mankind, to do onto others as we would have them do unto us.

THAT is the way to God's Glory.

hfhfhf

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I've met the #2 in GL London, as well as many GL inspectors, very nice guys, all married/pussywhipped. Very straight and really really NOT into wierd nasty stuff. Sorry to dissapoint. To be honest, I usually fall half-asleep during lodge meetings. Also wonder, if they do run the world, why on earth is Grand Lodge in london falling apart? Fittings and fixtures last renovated in 1970's I would imagine. It's a dwindling fraternity, I would posit that high finance is a much more pernicious cabal. 5 stars. peace My family have been in these orders from the beginning. Be careful what you wish for.
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Thank you for being HONEST. May YAHWEH bless you abundantly in the name of Yeshua HaMashiach. hf
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Hello. My real name is Jonathan. I'm a jeweller and businessman by trade. I have two bechelors degrees--one in Molecular Biology and another in Secondary Math Education. I have a master degree in Psychology.

I am Jewish. I am NOT a Zionist. I am opposed to Zionism as an ideology. I respect the Lord. I am devoted to His commandments. I have failed many times and I certainly will fail again. But thank the Lord for forgiveness.

Politically, I am a libertarian. I don't care about anyone's sexuality, drug use/abuse, religion or political affiliation. Believe it or not, you can be the complete opposite of me and yet I'll probably still like you--and I will certainly love you. You are you. I am me. We can get along--no matter what.

I am a Mason. I am a Master Mason, a Companion of the Holy Royal Arch and a Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret. I'm not here to defend Masonry but I am happy to say that the "conspirasphere" has Masonry all wrong. Masonry is a way to make men into better men--charitable, just, neat, clean and Godly. Many here might disagree but Masons here KNOW.

I believe in decorum. I believe in civility. I believe in respect. Life is good. Let's not foul it up with bullshit. Let's not revert to animals. That's what I say.

I believe in the Lord. I believe in the Lord of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I shamelessly worship the Lord--He is our Father--and a finer father, you could not have. The Lord provides. Need I say more?

I believe in Jesus. Yes, you read that correctly. I'm Jewish but I believe that Jesus was an exceptional son of the Lord. I've read the New Testament--several times with tears in my eyes. I believe that Jesus was sent here by the Lord and He did what had to be done--and ALL of us were beneficiaries of His life and death. I praise Jesus and I respect Christians. No finer people will you find in this world than the merciful followers of Jesus. Many will say that Christians are hateful but I only hope that these people have the chance to meet true followers of Jesus' words.

Most importantly, I don't claim to "know" anything (in the hard sense). I am as much a fool as anyone else. I may have saved this for last but it is the most important thing I could say.

Thanks for reading. You may find this thread to be pointless, and yet it is likely the most honest thing you will read tonight/today at GLP.

G-d bless.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final

As a Jew, do you believe the OT, or the Talmud, is the governing Scripture?
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he hasnot even asked my easy question "Are you Sephardic" so what makes you think he is going to answer your question?

Everyone here is letting this evil, little twerp suck them in so that he can get at their jugular vein1rof1poor, dumb, little sheep never learn, so sad.too_sad
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Hello. My real name is Jonathan. I'm a jeweller and businessman by trade. I have two bechelors degrees--one in Molecular Biology and another in Secondary Math Education. I have a master degree in Psychology.

I am Jewish. I am NOT a Zionist. I am opposed to Zionism as an ideology. I respect the Lord. I am devoted to His commandments. I have failed many times and I certainly will fail again. But thank the Lord for forgiveness.

Politically, I am a libertarian. I don't care about anyone's sexuality, drug use/abuse, religion or political affiliation. Believe it or not, you can be the complete opposite of me and yet I'll probably still like you--and I will certainly love you. You are you. I am me. We can get along--no matter what.

I am a Mason. I am a Master Mason, a Companion of the Holy Royal Arch and a Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret. I'm not here to defend Masonry but I am happy to say that the "conspirasphere" has Masonry all wrong. Masonry is a way to make men into better men--charitable, just, neat, clean and Godly. Many here might disagree but Masons here KNOW.

I believe in decorum. I believe in civility. I believe in respect. Life is good. Let's not foul it up with bullshit. Let's not revert to animals. That's what I say.

I believe in the Lord. I believe in the Lord of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I shamelessly worship the Lord--He is our Father--and a finer father, you could not have. The Lord provides. Need I say more?

I believe in Jesus. Yes, you read that correctly. I'm Jewish but I believe that Jesus was an exceptional son of the Lord. I've read the New Testament--several times with tears in my eyes. I believe that Jesus was sent here by the Lord and He did what had to be done--and ALL of us were beneficiaries of His life and death. I praise Jesus and I respect Christians. No finer people will you find in this world than the merciful followers of Jesus. Many will say that Christians are hateful but I only hope that these people have the chance to meet true followers of Jesus' words.

Most importantly, I don't claim to "know" anything (in the hard sense). I am as much a fool as anyone else. I may have saved this for last but it is the most important thing I could say.

Thanks for reading. You may find this thread to be pointless, and yet it is likely the most honest thing you will read tonight/today at GLP.

G-d bless.
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As a Jew, do you believe the OT, or the Talmud, is the governing Scripture?
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Yes...BUT

I am a critical thinker.
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Fair enough, but I didn't word my question carefully. Which is the governing Scripture, the OT or the Talmud?

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