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The Most Honest Thread You'll Read Here--Laying it All On the Line for GLP

 
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I am a Mason. I am a Master Mason, a Companion of the Holy Royal Arch and a Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret. I'm not here to defend Masonry but I am happy to say that the "conspirasphere" has Masonry all wrong. Masonry is a way to make men into better men--charitable, just, neat, clean and Godly. Many here might disagree but Masons here KNOW.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


Interesting post. Can I ask you then..... Has it ever occurred to you that maybe some other Free Mason lodges do not operate exactly the same as yours does? And potentially some maybe have negative intentions. All whilst still operating under the name Free Mason. As far as my research has taken me there are many different Masonic lodges around the world and they are not all aligned. Especially all around Europe and Italy. You cant deny there is some evil bloodline rule Free Mason business going on over there. Bulgaria, Bolivia. etc

Do you see what i'm getting at? This has occurred and is an issue society and Free Masons need to fix for any claims that Free Masonry is a benefit to modern society can be taken seriously.

Too many Free Masons I have spoken to are unwilling to even confront this topic and brush it of by either stating that it could never happen, Or that if it has happened its none of their concern what others do.

THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED...
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Really nice post OP; I give you a lot of respect for your honesty, evn among the hell you are already catching....I tried to read through the thread but there was so much negativity and nastiness, I just had to skip over it all. Glad you are on the forum, its nice to have fellow educated and rounded people here.

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I am sick and tired of dumbass Masons telling me that their craft is just, as presented to the public. When Albert Pike pretty much spelled it all out in his works, when it is all over the dollar bill, the great seal and the layout of Washington. That is undeniable evidence of what the Masons really are!

OP you dumb fuck! - 95% of Masons are just supposed to be ordinary know nothing members, because they are cover for the activities of the 'society within a society'
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RIGHT ... So there's this organization that wastes a full "95%" of its resources just to GET ONE OVER ON YOU, RIGHT?

DUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


Why can't that be so? Look at the obama administration, they spend 100% of their resources just to get one over on everyone!
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You don't find any contradiction or conflict between being a mason and believing in God?

You should.
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Funny that people think if you join an organization all your free will and personal choice doesn't exist anymore.

When people think that way, they are keeping themselves in their own box of preconceived, handed out notions, relying on others to tell them what to think. As if they do not understand the power and diversity of thought.
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Diversity of thought is one of the most important tenets of Masonry. If lay people just understood what Masonry is, they would be all for it. But it's hard to explain to "sectarian"-type people.
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A rank and file scientologist will tell you just about the same thing. The degrees of knowledge and attainment may of themselves be helpful for a person's case, if that is the purpose, but only as an independent, not as a member of another "Freedom Factory".
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I am sick and tired of dumbass Masons telling me that their craft is just, as presented to the public. When Albert Pike pretty much spelled it all out in his works, when it is all over the dollar bill, the great seal and the layout of Washington. That is undeniable evidence of what the Masons really are!

OP you dumb fuck! - 95% of Masons are just supposed to be ordinary know nothing members, because they are cover for the activities of the 'society within a society'
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RIGHT ... So there's this organization that wastes a full "95%" of its resources just to GET ONE OVER ON YOU, RIGHT?

DUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


You just described the people behind the NWO perfectly. They definitely need to keep 95% and more asleep to what is really going on.

Upper Masons are part of it, sure. The fact that you think it's completely stupid means they are doing their job well.
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OP displays a spirit of peace, knowledge, loving kindness, and acceptance of others. Would that we all had these traits.
In his book, "Between Two Ages," Brzezinski wrote: "The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values."

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Hello. My real name is Jonathan. I'm a jeweller and businessman by trade. I have two bachelors degrees--one in Molecular Biology and another in Secondary Math Education. I have a master degree in Psychology.

I am Jewish. I am NOT a Zionist. I am opposed to Zionism as an ideology. I respect the Lord. I am devoted to His commandments. I have failed many times and I certainly will fail again. But thank the Lord for forgiveness.

Politically, I am a libertarian. I don't care about anyone's sexuality, drug use/abuse, religion or political affiliation. Believe it or not, you can be the complete opposite of me and yet I'll probably still like you--and I will certainly love you. You are you. I am me. We can get along--no matter what.

I am a Mason. I am a Master Mason, a Companion of the Holy Royal Arch and a Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret. I'm not here to defend Masonry but I am happy to say that the "conspirasphere" has Masonry all wrong. Masonry is a way to make men into better men--charitable, just, neat, clean and Godly. Many here might disagree but Masons here KNOW.

I believe in decorum. I believe in civility. I believe in respect. Life is good. Let's not foul it up with bullshit. Let's not revert to animals. That's what I say.

I believe in the Lord. I believe in the Lord of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I shamelessly worship the Lord--He is our Father--and a finer father, you could not have. The Lord provides. Need I say more?

I believe in Jesus. Yes, you read that correctly. I'm Jewish but I believe that Jesus was an exceptional son of the Lord. I've read the New Testament--several times with tears in my eyes. I believe that Jesus was sent here by the Lord and He did what had to be done--and ALL of us were beneficiaries of His life and death. I praise Jesus and I respect Christians. No finer people will you find in this world than the merciful followers of Jesus. Many will say that Christians are hateful but I only hope that these people have the chance to meet true followers of Jesus' words.

Most importantly, I don't claim to "know" anything (in the hard sense). I am as much a fool as anyone else. I may have saved this for last but it is the most important thing I could say.

Thanks for reading. You may find this thread to be pointless, and yet it is likely the most honest thing you will read tonight/today at GLP.

G-d bless.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


I didn't know you were Jewish bro. I am a known antisemite here but man you gotta be the coolest Jew around. Good mind you got there.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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Hello. My real name is Jonathan. I'm a jeweller and businessman by trade. I have two bachelors degrees--one in Molecular Biology and another in Secondary Math Education. I have a master degree in Psychology.

I am Jewish. I am NOT a Zionist. I am opposed to Zionism as an ideology. I respect the Lord. I am devoted to His commandments. I have failed many times and I certainly will fail again. But thank the Lord for forgiveness.

Politically, I am a libertarian. I don't care about anyone's sexuality, drug use/abuse, religion or political affiliation. Believe it or not, you can be the complete opposite of me and yet I'll probably still like you--and I will certainly love you. You are you. I am me. We can get along--no matter what.

I am a Mason. I am a Master Mason, a Companion of the Holy Royal Arch and a Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret. I'm not here to defend Masonry but I am happy to say that the "conspirasphere" has Masonry all wrong. Masonry is a way to make men into better men--charitable, just, neat, clean and Godly. Many here might disagree but Masons here KNOW.

I believe in decorum. I believe in civility. I believe in respect. Life is good. Let's not foul it up with bullshit. Let's not revert to animals. That's what I say.

I believe in the Lord. I believe in the Lord of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I shamelessly worship the Lord--He is our Father--and a finer father, you could not have. The Lord provides. Need I say more?

I believe in Jesus. Yes, you read that correctly. I'm Jewish but I believe that Jesus was an exceptional son of the Lord. I've read the New Testament--several times with tears in my eyes. I believe that Jesus was sent here by the Lord and He did what had to be done--and ALL of us were beneficiaries of His life and death. I praise Jesus and I respect Christians. No finer people will you find in this world than the merciful followers of Jesus. Many will say that Christians are hateful but I only hope that these people have the chance to meet true followers of Jesus' words.

Most importantly, I don't claim to "know" anything (in the hard sense). I am as much a fool as anyone else. I may have saved this for last but it is the most important thing I could say.

Thanks for reading. You may find this thread to be pointless, and yet it is likely the most honest thing you will read tonight/today at GLP.

G-d bless.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


Funny thing is that anyone can be a mason. Ask 1 to be 1.
If your up to it you will learn why masons are so misunderstood. I crack up at the masonic conspirashpere. I Have been a Prince Hall Mason, A Mastor Mason, since the day I turned 21 and the fact of the matter is it has made me a better person. Period. Thank you for this post and God bless you and your honest post here today. Its refreshing.

I am sorry to say though it might be lens flare thats causing your honesty here today. We will see what the others say...

Best regards,
Reb

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What is your favorite precious stone?
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Ashlar... Used to be rough Its a bit Smoother These Days.

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Is this the same guy who said he uses hookers regularly and can score hot 20 somethings for 30 bucks and half an 8 ball? Good men better?
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OP, did you say this?
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Yeah I said it. Somebody reported it and it got deleted. I won't lie about it. I'm not perfect.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


CULT ACTIVITIES
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Hello. My real name is Jonathan. I am a pink snorkel attached to a turnip. I am a plumber, yet I have a degree in anthropology and dentistry. And I have a masters in physics....

The OP is a faker
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OKAY--LISTEN UP

This is NOT a thread about Masonry. Like I stated clearly and plainly in the OP, if someone is an anti-Mason, it is IMPOSSIBLE for me to debunk their conspiracy theories. As wacky as the theories seem to me, it's only because I am and have been long involved with Masonry and affiliated bodies. You have to be where I've been to really understand.

NOW--do I believe that criminals and scoundrels have--in the past, and even now in the present--used and abused Lodges as a front for their criminal behavior? YES. It's irrefutable.

But that's life. Just like Pastor Ted Haggard liked to suck dick and Catholic priest after priest likes to do the same (but to pre-pubescent boys), there are weak links in ANY organization.

They are eventually found out.

AND ELIMINATED.

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I once worked with a 20 year mason. I mentioned some of the conspiracy stuff surrounding masonry. He had obviously never heard any such thing about masonry because he laughed so hard he liked to have fell out. He was a nice gentle man.
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They dont roam around the net mutch, kinda oldschool blokes
I feel that they are not in touch with this net generation and dont know the mud throwing going around, and how people are in pain because of the general detatchment

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Its appetite will of cause grow and grow, and then you point your finger at its hunger?
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Wouldn't trust the OP.
Most lower ranling masons know shit from crap.
Also;
www.jesusneverexisted.com
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Now I must say that you sound like a very honest guy, and I'm sure you really mean what you say, but that being said, I can see that you're a bit naive about what really goes on at the very top.
 Quoting: The Cryptic Mole 34963257


I AM at the top. Where is there to go from here? Life is good.
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Tell me why in the mason hand book do they use letters for people's ranks or have I just missed the index.
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"They are eventually found out.

AND ELIMINATED." OP
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OK, now the Jewish loving kindness creeps out into view.
In his book, "Between Two Ages," Brzezinski wrote: "The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values."

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NOW--do I believe that criminals and scoundrels have--in the past, and even now in the present--used and abused Lodges as a front for their criminal behavior? YES. It's irrefutable.

But that's life. Just like Pastor Ted Haggard liked to suck dick and Catholic priest after priest likes to do the same (but to pre-pubescent boys), there are weak links in ANY organization.

They are eventually found out.

AND ELIMINATED.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


Are they? what kind of time frames are you talking about? Because its taking you guys 100 years to clean up the corruption.

I will admit I have seen much corruption exposed and hear whispers of major titanic changes happening in the realm of secret societies as of the last year.

But I will believe it when I see it. Heck I would even give praise and consider joining. But for now i'm going to wait and see if more corruption is exposed and dealt with.

Its not a small amount..... Its global and here in NZ we are getting sick of our Free Mason (albeit from a negative criminal lodge as you put it) Prime Minister John Key utterly agenda 21 our whole country up.

I wish I saw more public declarations from High Level Free Masons pledging to sweep corruption. Much like what is potentially happening at the Vatican. I guarantee you if something like this took place the "Image" Of Free Masonry would MASSIVELY improve.

Imagine if Free Masons actually fixed the world. :)
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Now I must say that you sound like a very honest guy, and I'm sure you really mean what you say, but that being said, I can see that you're a bit naive about what really goes on at the very top.
 Quoting: The Cryptic Mole 34963257


I AM at the top. Where is there to go from here? Life is good.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


Tell me why in the mason hand book do they use letters for people's ranks or have I just missed the index.
 Quoting: Pool 34173624


Any Masonic handbook I have ever seen that has anything in it about masonry is written in code so that only masons that know how to read it can. Its pretty easy to read once you been through it few times. During your first degrees its all laid out for you. You even tend to committed to memory so you don't need the book as much. Its a good reference but if your a manson in a position in the lodge it would be a good idea to memorize all that you can. Get into a lodge and practice your craft. Thats about all i can say on the subject.

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Hello. My real name is Jonathan. I'm a jeweller and businessman by trade. I have two bachelors degrees--one in Molecular Biology and another in Secondary Math Education. I have a master degree in Psychology.

I am Jewish. I am NOT a Zionist. I am opposed to Zionism as an ideology. I respect the Lord. I am devoted to His commandments. I have failed many times and I certainly will fail again. But thank the Lord for forgiveness.

Politically, I am a libertarian. I don't care about anyone's sexuality, drug use/abuse, religion or political affiliation. Believe it or not, you can be the complete opposite of me and yet I'll probably still like you--and I will certainly love you. You are you. I am me. We can get along--no matter what.

I am a Mason. I am a Master Mason, a Companion of the Holy Royal Arch and a Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret. I'm not here to defend Masonry but I am happy to say that the "conspirasphere" has Masonry all wrong. Masonry is a way to make men into better men--charitable, just, neat, clean and Godly. Many here might disagree but Masons here KNOW.

I believe in decorum. I believe in civility. I believe in respect. Life is good. Let's not foul it up with bullshit. Let's not revert to animals. That's what I say.

I believe in the Lord. I believe in the Lord of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I shamelessly worship the Lord--He is our Father--and a finer father, you could not have. The Lord provides. Need I say more?

I believe in Jesus. Yes, you read that correctly. I'm Jewish but I believe that Jesus was an exceptional son of the Lord. I've read the New Testament--several times with tears in my eyes. I believe that Jesus was sent here by the Lord and He did what had to be done--and ALL of us were beneficiaries of His life and death. I praise Jesus and I respect Christians. No finer people will you find in this world than the merciful followers of Jesus. Many will say that Christians are hateful but I only hope that these people have the chance to meet true followers of Jesus' words.

Most importantly, I don't claim to "know" anything (in the hard sense). I am as much a fool as anyone else. I may have saved this for last but it is the most important thing I could say.

Thanks for reading. You may find this thread to be pointless, and yet it is likely the most honest thing you will read tonight/today at GLP.

G-d bless.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


Masters of liars.
Your main goal is to instil anarchy across the globe, you succeeded... but only in the ignorant, the rest of the people exist being made to fight for happiness, something you ones destroy at every turn.
The void is waiting for you ones, and justice is self served.
You serve a dead master and hang on to the rites of his servants to fulfil the jealous rage of the rebellious.
Your quaint words will not fool me.
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Don't you worship JahBaalUm, and don't you have to choose the freemason's book over the bible and other holy books? I believe that freemasons do a lot of good and many believe they are good, but there does seem to be some darkness to it. At least in certain lodges. Most of the founders were masons so it can't all be bad, but i have heard rumors from people whose family are masons and they say that they were told that it is really crazy global domination type stuff that goes on in the lodge.
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Free Masonry needs a JFK speech moment where a large conspiracy is exposed internally and pledged to be dealt with.

If done correctly it would indeed fix our planet. Actions not words and all that ya know?

That would earn my respect.
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Unfortunately you're MUCH too low a level of mason to know the truth of what the masonic order truly stands for. Only the highest levels have been shown what they consider to be truth (Luciferianism). The rest of the order is kept in the dark to blindly defend it as being "honorable". Please, for your own sake, dig deeper - but be careful. If they think you are trying to expose them, your life will be in grave danger.

Spoken from someone who knows.
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clappa
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...by definition, honesty does not exist...all you have is perspective...if truth is perception, then truth varies from person to person, making your truth obsolete in the eyes of another. Fail.
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...by definition, honesty does not exist...all you have is perspective...if truth is perception, then truth varies from person to person, making your truth obsolete in the eyes of another. Fail.
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Now I must say that you sound like a very honest guy, and I'm sure you really mean what you say, but that being said, I can see that you're a bit naive about what really goes on at the very top.
 Quoting: The Cryptic Mole 34963257


I AM at the top. Where is there to go from here? Life is good.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


Tell me why in the mason hand book do they use letters for people's ranks or have I just missed the index.
 Quoting: Pool 34173624


In the Ahiman Rezon (Lodge handbook), the degrees were laid out in such a way that a non-mason would not know what they are or mean.

For example, in the Ahiman Rezon, you might see the 3rd (and highest) degree described as "the S.'.D.'.M.'.M.'." meaning "the Sublime Degree of Master Mason". At the time it was writtien, only a Mason would have known to call the 3rd degree "the Sublime Degree".

It was a way to keep fakers out of the Lodge.
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Actually The Rothschild family are Free Masons so no, I would never join such a group that allowed Khazar Zionist overlords to walk among them
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...by definition, honesty does not exist...all you have is perspective...if truth is perception, then truth varies from person to person, making your truth obsolete in the eyes of another. Fail.
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Give me an honest answer, did you just write this crap?
In his book, "Between Two Ages," Brzezinski wrote: "The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values."

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...by definition, honesty does not exist...all you have is perspective...if truth is perception, then truth varies from person to person, making your truth obsolete in the eyes of another. Fail.
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Well at least in the realms of matter this seems to be correct.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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I'm no expert on all the levels in the masons, but I do know that those who are at the very top are involved with the illuminati and the NWO, and we all know their agenda.

So there are only two possibilities here. Either you're not all the way at the top like you claim, or you are, and you are intentionally misleading as they always do to further their agenda!

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