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I believe in the Lord. I believe in the Lord of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I shamelessly worship the Lord--He is our Father--and a finer father, you could not have.

I believe in Jesus. Yes, you read that correctly. I'm Jewish but I believe that Jesus was an exceptional son of the Lord.
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:japand2: No you don't. You cannot be a Freemason and a Christian, or a Jewish Christian.
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If I was a Jewish Free Mason I would be making heads roll.

Or attempting to. The mere shock of what Rothschild Free Masons have done to other Jewish people over the years?! It wills me with rage even now and i'm not even Jewish!

I don't understand why you don't seem to care? They pretended to be Jewish whilst financing Genocide against your people?!

FFS man wake up and smell the roses!
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i heard jesus isnt dead
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take the context into consideration it was shortly after the bay of pigs invasion, he was speaking to the national press core, or newspaper association and the speech simply states that we are opposed to secrecy but it is necessary in times of war, it was an appeal to the newspapers to watch what they publish when dealing with matters of national security

sorry this is not why kennedy was killed as many people posterize...in all likelihood he was killed because organized crime helped get him to where he was and he turned his back on them allowing the fbi to continue to dismantle the mafia during his term in office, although i will say the texas area 322's had no problem in helpng due to the fact that it benefitted them getting johnson into power because he was much more controllable and not looking to end the vietnam conflict like kennedy was
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I understand why you would think that but I still disagree. The Kennedy family were major power players back then within the Secret Societies of our planet.

Key players among them were involved in the fall of the soviet union and looting of the former USSR's assets. Plus involved in the Vietnam war.

What we see in the public is the controlled spin designed to edit public opinion.

I suspect within the many warring factions of Global Elites there was a power shift/Coup that happened behind the scenes.

By now we should all know the CIA killed JFK. And the CIA is operated by Herbert Walker Bush.
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...


damned
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It's a good thing!!! It's nothing bad. It's wonderful, in fact.
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Unless you have been naughty while alive right? wink
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Nope. Wrong. Life is a wacky game. You can rape a nun and hogtie a kindergartner. It doesn't matter. It's just as well that the vast majority of people have no urge to do those things, though.

HaHa. What if THAT were the secret? Hmm? You could do what you will? Wouldn't it be pretty important to keep a secret like that? For the savages?

A secret like that might inspire the Catholic Church along with every fascist or Communist dictatorship to try to exterminate you, no?
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See now that is one of your bigger lies.
You cannot do as thou wilt if you intend to walk toward eternal life, into higher spirituality and choose to be the will of our Universal Father.
You ones take advantage of this world being a total free will planet, you think that makes it OK for you to do evil as you wilt because of the free will. Maybe not even you know that evil deeds sow knots into your soul signature, create marks and blocks into your energy chain. You ones want to create them so to keep coming back onto this planet because you love the free will that it maintains for you.
This is how all ignorant men are hoodwinked into that deception and losing the chance to advance spiritually.
You know that a regular gathering of lights occur, or as you put it, harvest. You think this will go on forever, but it will not, Christ is here in the hearts of many, and you will earn a void, you will not inherit the earth as you think to continue with your do as thou wilt.
You think you can cause harm and it does not matter, it is OK to cause destruction and it does not matter. Do you really think that kind of carelessness does not matter because it's all a game.
You cannot serve self in wickedness and serve the true God at the same time, service to others is what leads people to true freedom, you forge your own chains and then attempt to hang them around others necks, but our Father knows.
Someone lied to you, and it serves you right.
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in all likelihood he was killed because organized crime helped get him to where he was and he turned his back on them
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Yes Bush Family/ CIA. Organised Crime.

Indeed he turned his back on them...
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am a Master Mason, a Companion of the Holy Royal Arch and a Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret. I'm not here to defend Masonry but I am happy to say that the "conspirasphere" has Masonry all wrong. Masonry is a way to make men into better men--charitable, just, neat, clean and Godly. Many here might disagree but Masons here KNOW.

Yet many Masons will stand by their brother when there is undeniable proof he is a pedophile or has killed someone. That isn't neat, clean, or GODLY. The Freemasons are a brotherhood organization for men to do whatever the fuck they want and to not face any consequences of their actions. It's why many Freemasons are lawyers, judges, politicians, doctors, and higher up the ladder so they can let their accused brother go easily.

On the surface and at the lower levels they're just a helpful, charitable MIRAGE. At the higher ranks you have no idea what they're involved in.
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That's the truth. OP is a shill and a troll.Idol1
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Nice OP!thsmil
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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More roleplay! Gotta love it.
He's correct about masonry, but I still don't believe a thing he says.
Someone who is being truthful doesn't need to tell you how truthful he is.
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take the context into consideration it was shortly after the bay of pigs invasion, he was speaking to the national press core, or newspaper association and the speech simply states that we are opposed to secrecy but it is necessary in times of war, it was an appeal to the newspapers to watch what they publish when dealing with matters of national security

sorry this is not why kennedy was killed as many people posterize...in all likelihood he was killed because organized crime helped get him to where he was and he turned his back on them allowing the fbi to continue to dismantle the mafia during his term in office, although i will say the texas area 322's had no problem in helpng due to the fact that it benefitted them getting johnson into power because he was much more controllable and not looking to end the vietnam conflict like kennedy was
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20056488


I understand why you would think that but I still disagree. The Kennedy family were major power players back then within the Secret Societies of our planet.

Key players among them were involved in the fall of the soviet union and looting of the former USSR's assets. Plus involved in the Vietnam war.

What we see in the public is the controlled spin designed to edit public opinion.

I suspect within the many warring factions of Global Elites there was a power shift/Coup that happened behind the scenes.

By now we should all know the CIA killed JFK. And the CIA is operated by Herbert Walker Bush.
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yeah i guess we'll agree to disagree on this one...it is clear who the shift in power benefitted...the austrian/german/belguim illuminati or the "zionist" elements of isreal today...we definatly know what the cia is, the conflagration of organized crime and government in this country...so i figure it was both of them, mob and agency under the directive of the texas 322 who basically all and all are nazis or "zionists" now
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Masonry has nothing to do with Bloodlines? Whether or not that's true.

Elite Dynastic Family Bloodlines have an exclusive interest in Free Masonry, Have for hundreds of years. And this is something Masons Ignore or play of as it is of little importance.

HUGE MISTAKE....
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Associated. Some elite have been in place for a long long time... and actually feel responsibility to manage the lands they 'own'. Mostly now, the lands are gone, as peasants gained freedom (only to lose it to new masters). Most bloodlines now are so mixed that it's more of a clan system. At the end of the day, a world without a moral oligarchy is a scary prospect, especially if the value of human life is lowered to that of being a human 'resource' as in the serf/state model. burnit we defended against mongols, japanese, chinese and islamic invasions over milennia in Russia and Europe. Somebutnotall. Now we have an enemy within.
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yeah i guess we'll agree to disagree on this one...it is clear who the shift in power benefitted...the austrian/german/belguim illuminati or the "zionist" elements of isreal today...we definatly know what the cia is, the conflagration of organized crime and government in this country...so i figure it was both of them, mob and agency under the directive of the texas 322 who basically all and all are nazis or "zionists" now
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Zionism has been pushed forward on the world by the Rothschild family and there influence within Free Masonry. The Rothschild family BOUGHT ISRAEL.

Have you seen the State/Capital buildings in Israel. T ans Set Squares, Masonic Symbolism Illuminati all seeing eye. Pyramids EVERYWHERE.


Modern Day Israel and the Zionist movement is backed by the Rothschilds.

Much like the Nazis were last time.

Same Story different day....
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Associated. Some elite have been in place for a long long time... and actually feel responsibility to manage the lands they 'own'. Mostly now, the lands are gone, as peasants gained freedom (only to lose it to new masters). Most bloodlines now are so mixed that it's more of a clan system. At the end of the day, a world without a moral oligarchy is a scary prospect, especially if the value of human life is lowered to that of being a human 'resource' as in the serf/state model. burnit
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Interesting. Your mentality seems to suggest you think some form of oligarchy is necessary?

That's sad man :( Humanity is capable of great things. Don't let the last thousand years of various forms of oppression to completely mold your opinion. We can resist and do much better as a society.


I require no Oligarchs...
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You don't find any contradiction or conflict between being a mason and believing in God?

You should.
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I am a Master Mason, and 32 degree Scottish Rite Freemason. I am a Christian, and find no dilemma in my faith and my affiliation with the Lodge or the Temple. I was raised almost five years ago to the day. My Reunion was conducted in July, 2012.

I have found nothing to discredit Masonry. I too am completely baffled as to why so many people believe that Masons are some type of evil organization. It is truly about making good men better men...nothing more.


Flame away...
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Interesting. Your mentality seems to suggest you think some form of oligarchy is necessary?

That's sad man :( Humanity is capable of great things. Don't let the last thousand years of various forms of oppression to completely mold your opinion. We can resist and do much better as a society.

I require no Oligarchs...
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Yeah sure. We are 'civilised'. And we are the minority. I agree with your sentiment 100% but feel it impossible given the modern weapons available. The option NOT to manage things has gone. Now what form would they require to manage societies... I guess it would look a lot like a 'fraternity' or a 'council'... you can have a council that values a human life less than that of an animal, or you can have one that holds life sacred. Not sure what we have at the moment running things. Anyway I digress.Idol1
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Yeah sure. We are 'civilised'. And we are the minority. I agree with your sentiment 100% but feel it impossible given the modern weapons available. The option NOT to manage things has gone. Now what form would they require to manage societies... I guess it would look a lot like a 'fraternity' or a 'council'... you can have a council that values a human life less than that of an animal, or you can have one that holds life sacred. Not sure what we have at the moment running things. Anyway I digress.Idol1
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mmmm. A paradigm shift in maturity and ego collectively is required of the human race yes.

I suspect the reason why we seem so far from this eventuality is specifically because of Elite Bloodline scum interference within our societies with the specific intent of undermining them and plunging them into crime and poverty.

If people like Free Masons stop being delusional as to what some of there "Brothers" have been getting up to then I honestly think we have a chance at Utopia. Or a decent attempt.

If you look throughout history at the many things that Corrupt governments and religious institutions have done its insane. CIA drug smuggling into black communities for DECADES. Disease and G.E viruses spread throughout portions of the world.

Rothschild Federal Reserve financial strangle hold on the planet forcing more poverty and crime on nations.

And that doesn't even get me started on the Mainstream media manipulation that most people construct their views of the world from. The MK Ultra mind controlled Raised from birth Media propaganda figure heads in the Constructed Culture of this fake society.




It all seems too much and too hard to defeat, When you realize how truly interconnected these negative aspects are in our society you begin to see if we attack the root of the problem and then begin to start doing positive financial actions within our communities.... just wow


I believe withing 1-2 generations of a global society being
brought up in a peaceful prosperous society. We would be damn on track to a decent ish Utopia. at least in comparison to today.


If the world sucks less there's less douche bags :) This is achievable!!!!! :D
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Look...all of the stuff you said above is "nice"...but, here is what I have heard from people whose direct kin are masons...

The first initiation is to lie in a coffin and masturbate in front of the rest of the members.

This, to me, is done to get the person in a "compromised" position. The reason for the compromised position...to be able to blackmail the person into future actions.

Deny all you want...my source is 100% believable.
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LOL...I doubt seriously that I could somehow "perform" in front of one person...much less a whole lodge of people.

Our degrees are all online. They're not really secret. Anyone can look them up and read. They may not make a lot of sense...they don't make sense when you're doing them either. The meanings come later, as you study and grow in Masonry.

If anything, my time in the Lodge and Temple has strengthened my faith and resolve. Through direction and a desire to understand Masonry better, I have studied the Bible more over the last few years than I ever did as a young man. And...again, I have found no conflict.
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You don't find any contradiction or conflict between being a mason and believing in God?

You should.
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I am a Master Mason, and 32 degree Scottish Rite Freemason. I am a Christian, and find no dilemma in my faith and my affiliation with the Lodge or the Temple. I was raised almost five years ago to the day. My Reunion was conducted in July, 2012.

I have found nothing to discredit Masonry. I too am completely baffled as to why so many people believe that Masons are some type of evil organization. It is truly about making good men better men...nothing more.


Flame away...
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No wonder the sphere of influence is so messed up and people and women and children suffering everywhere, because you are the greater influence.
This planet is full of rat shit and you lead the pack.
You are so insane that you believe all that you say and think, your too insane to see the wrong that you are, the wrong that you inflict.
You are too far gone to even attempt to willingly remove the darkness from your souls, your dark hearts are sick, but you really cannot see your insanity.
You have no right to inflict your darkness on everyone, the greatest insult to God is to remove the freewill and choice of others, yet you claim to be of God.
It is not the same God that I know.
There is a word to describe your sickness, it is called megalomania, you hold all positions in this racket of a system, yet you did not consider psychology as an option.
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I have found nothing to discredit Masonry.
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Rothschild, Khazarian Free Mason influence.

If you truly want to see negative aspects of Free Masonry then there you go...

I honestly wish more Free Masons would care... :/
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You don't find any contradiction or conflict between being a mason and believing in God?

You should.
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I am a Master Mason, and 32 degree Scottish Rite Freemason. I am a Christian, and find no dilemma in my faith and my affiliation with the Lodge or the Temple. I was raised almost five years ago to the day. My Reunion was conducted in July, 2012.

I have found nothing to discredit Masonry. I too am completely baffled as to why so many people believe that Masons are some type of evil organization. It is truly about making good men better men...nothing more.


Flame away...
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What's a M. E. Z.
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There are 9 parts, suggest you watch it
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You don't find any contradiction or conflict between being a mason and believing in God?

You should.
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Funny that people think if you join an organization all your free will and personal choice doesn't exist anymore.

When people think that way, they are keeping themselves in their own box of preconceived, handed out notions, relying on others to tell them what to think. As if they do not understand the power and diversity of thought.
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exactly ..thought control. All the same little cookie cutter shapes in a prison cell..

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16"I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star." 17 The Spirit and the bride say, "Come." And let the one who hears say, "Come." And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who wishes take the water of life without cost.
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You don't find any contradiction or conflict between being a mason and believing in God?

You should.
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I'm not here to argue. But you might be surprised to know that a man can not be a Mason unless he believes in G-d.
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It is long thought that a new Mason is asked about his belief in God in one way or another, and depending on your answer you are either put into one group or another, either way without your knowledge of which group you were put into or that you were even put into a group at all based on the answer.

This determines your career as a Mason.

This may happen again at higher degrees.

I suspect local lodges are not quite the same or "In the know" as other Mother Lodges around the world in power positions.
:ritd:"You've been left on your own, like a Rainbow in the Dark" -Ronnie James Dio:ritd:
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You don't find any contradiction or conflict between being a mason and believing in God?

You should.
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I am a Master Mason, and 32 degree Scottish Rite Freemason. I am a Christian, and find no dilemma in my faith and my affiliation with the Lodge or the Temple. I was raised almost five years ago to the day. My Reunion was conducted in July, 2012.

I have found nothing to discredit Masonry. I too am completely baffled as to why so many people believe that Masons are some type of evil organization. It is truly about making good men better men...nothing more.


Flame away...
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What's a M. E. Z.
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You do not make good men better, you take good men and make them selfish, convincing them that material destruction of the lesser people, the so called peasants is your gain.
It is cowardice and weak to pray on the vulnerable, especially when it is not from need, but from greed, and that is not necessarily money greed, but power greed.
A man that makes the life of another intolerable is not a better man but a coward.
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You don't find any contradiction or conflict between being a mason and believing in God?

You should.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


I am a Master Mason, and 32 degree Scottish Rite Freemason. I am a Christian, and find no dilemma in my faith and my affiliation with the Lodge or the Temple. I was raised almost five years ago to the day. My Reunion was conducted in July, 2012.

I have found nothing to discredit Masonry. I too am completely baffled as to why so many people believe that Masons are some type of evil organization. It is truly about making good men better men...nothing more.


Flame away...
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No wonder the sphere of influence is so messed up and people and women and children suffering everywhere, because you are the greater influence.
This planet is full of rat shit and you lead the pack.
You are so insane that you believe all that you say and think, your too insane to see the wrong that you are, the wrong that you inflict.
You are too far gone to even attempt to willingly remove the darkness from your souls, your dark hearts are sick, but you really cannot see your insanity.
You have no right to inflict your darkness on everyone, the greatest insult to God is to remove the freewill and choice of others, yet you claim to be of God.
It is not the same God that I know.
There is a word to describe your sickness, it is called megalomania, you hold all positions in this racket of a system, yet you did not consider psychology as an option.
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Good job...best flaming I've seen in a while.

You seem to think your eyes are open wider than most in some way. I, personally, have seen my fair share. I spent over ten years in the Marine Corps infantry. I’ve seen the entire world, more than once unfortunately. I’ve seen the good, and the BAD. I believe I have a pretty good understanding of world…in some ways I wish I didn’t.

I’m not saying you’re not a knowledgeable person. You very well may be. But, don’t for one second think I’m some blinded fool walking about with my head in the clouds.

I was raised a Christian, saved and baptized at the age of 12, and attended church every Sunday morning, Sunday night, and again on Wednesday. I have several Baptist preachers in my family, and two foreign missionaries. I’ve seen good men baptized in the desert, and raised a Master Mason the next night.

I’ve experienced a lot in my time on this rock….but I would never assume that I’m always the smartest guy in the room. However, I don’t ever think I’m the dumbest either.

Humility,…try it on for size sometimes.

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To any interested individuals into the history of the Khazar Warrior Clan and how it links to Judaism and Free Masonry of today I give you this.

Feel free to cross check this information for verification. I have researched many of these topics for years! This guys is 100% Correct.



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The Mason's killed Elizabeth Short aka the Black Dahlia, that's why her body was severed in half, all of her sexual organs were disfigured and removed for Satanic ritualistic purposes, and her mouth was slashed from side to side (which is of course why the Joker's face looked like that in the DARK KNIGHT as a reference to Elizabeth Short and an inside joke to the elite).
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Re: The Most Honest Thread You'll Read Here--Laying it All On the Line for GLP
Christ taught that He was the one and only son of God, that He in fact WAS God, and that the only way to be forgiven was to believe in Him.

Now, I have to agree with CS Lewis here....He didn't leave any room for good teacher or wise prophet talk....He was wither God in the flesh, or He was insane and should not be believed. There is ample proof He was in fact God via fulfilled prophecy and miracles, and I believe in Him and that He died for this world's sins. He is my savior. The God of Abraham and Moses is INDEED my God, the one and only.

There is also obvious prophetic proof in the Bible to show that Israel would be reformed, that it would be surrounded by the exact people that are there today, and that everyone would be trying to destroy them. Also predicts everything we are seeing world politics, natural events, meteorites, etc etc. You kind of have to close your eyes really tight and keep telling yourself it's all coincidence.

The Masons don't believe in the God of Abraham, Moses or Christ...they believe in the great architect and they believe in blood oaths, sacred vows having to do with getting your throat cut ear to ear if you tell their deep secrets, etc. Joseph Smith actually stole many of the Mason traditions and Mormons are told not to become Masons for this reason.

I think the large majority of Masons are just guys into being in a club and getting away from the wifey sometimes. But at the heart of the group, things are not kosher.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17355042


The god of the OT and the Christ of the NT are at two polar opposites IMHO. The god of the OT believed in war and vengeance and the christ preached forgiveness and love they neighbor. Our true essence is connected to god or is god. Obtaining the christ consciousness is like communing with Christ and being Christ. I have heard another describe it as communing with god and becoming god. I have done it.
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Re: The Most Honest Thread You'll Read Here--Laying it All On the Line for GLP
You don't find any contradiction or conflict between being a mason and believing in God?

You should.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


I am a Master Mason, and 32 degree Scottish Rite Freemason. I am a Christian, and find no dilemma in my faith and my affiliation with the Lodge or the Temple. I was raised almost five years ago to the day. My Reunion was conducted in July, 2012.

I have found nothing to discredit Masonry. I too am completely baffled as to why so many people believe that Masons are some type of evil organization. It is truly about making good men better men...nothing more.


Flame away...
 Quoting: salty1


No wonder the sphere of influence is so messed up and people and women and children suffering everywhere, because you are the greater influence.
This planet is full of rat shit and you lead the pack.
You are so insane that you believe all that you say and think, your too insane to see the wrong that you are, the wrong that you inflict.
You are too far gone to even attempt to willingly remove the darkness from your souls, your dark hearts are sick, but you really cannot see your insanity.
You have no right to inflict your darkness on everyone, the greatest insult to God is to remove the freewill and choice of others, yet you claim to be of God.
It is not the same God that I know.
There is a word to describe your sickness, it is called megalomania, you hold all positions in this racket of a system, yet you did not consider psychology as an option.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35092908


Good job...best flaming I've seen in a while.

You seem to think your eyes are open wider than most in some way. I, personally, have seen my fair share. I spent over ten years in the Marine Corps infantry. I’ve seen the entire world, more than once unfortunately. I’ve seen the good, and the BAD. I believe I have a pretty good understanding of world…in some ways I wish I didn’t.

I’m not saying you’re not a knowledgeable person. You very well may be. But, don’t for one second think I’m some blinded fool walking about with my head in the clouds.

I was raised a Christian, saved and baptized at the age of 12, and attended church every Sunday morning, Sunday night, and again on Wednesday. I have several Baptist preachers in my family, and two foreign missionaries. I’ve seen good men baptized in the desert, and raised a Master Mason the next night.

I’ve experienced a lot in my time on this rock….but I would never assume that I’m always the smartest guy in the room. However, I don’t ever think I’m the dumbest either.

Humility,…try it on for size sometimes.
 Quoting: salty1


Do you even actually understand humility, is it just a convenient word that has no contrast in your conscious will.
You thrashed out that paragraph and talk of humility.
The definition of humility in your ranks is more than likely coerced through torture and mind control but has no real meaning.

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