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THE NIGHT CHRIST GOT ARRESTED THERE WAS ONE AMONG THEM WHO ESCAPED NAKED! WHO WAS THIS YOUNG MAN IN LINEN?

 
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Here is something of interest in the book of MARK chapter 14 verse 51 there was a certaIn young man clothed in linen who was present on mount Olives the night Messiah was captured.Linen was normally worn by the Aarons line of highpirests as a covering of their nakedness from above the knees to their waist line and then an outer covering over it. Then linen was used for burial or in some instances by the very wealthy men of Isreal at that time. Now not much is ever spoken about this event but I will shed light on this for those who may have distorted this passage.

My journey started by looking at angels and came across some interesting biblical references as seen below.This further gave me leads into more information as you will see unfolds as you read on.

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Bible Encyclopedia
Remiel is the angel of hope, and he is credited with two tasks: he is responsible for divine visions, and he guides the souls of the faithful into Heaven..
He is called Jeremielis described as "one of the holy angels whom God has set over those who rise" from the dead, in effect the angel that watches over those that are to resurrect
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MARK CHAPTER14

51And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold on him:

52And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked.

53And they led Jesus away to the high priest: and with him were assembled all the chief priests and the elders and the scribes.

ouiyut

Now as we move alonge we see this young man again after the resurecction of messiah at the sephulcre this time wearing a white garment.There he spoke to MARY givng her the message that christ is risen.

Who is this angel we are seeing here? He was there just before his death and he is here at the resurrection confirming he is risen


MARK CHAPTER16

5And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.

6And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.

7But go your way, tell his disciples and Peter that he goeth before you into Galilee: there shall ye see him, as he said unto you



Ok let us go to the book of acts only this time we see two men comforting the apostles because the Messiah had been now taken up into heaven i the clouds of heaven,The angel in the form of young man job was completed in escorting Christ into heaven. Sounds crazy?



LET US EXAMINE WHAT THE BOOK OF ENOCH SAYS REGARDING THE 7 ANGELS

Names and Functions of the Seven Archangels.

1,2And these are the names of the holy angels who watch. Uriel, one of the holy angels, who is over the world and over Tartarus. Raphael, one of the holy angels, who is over the spirits of men.

4,5Raguel, one of the holy angels who takes vengeance on the world of the luminaries. Michael, one of the holy angels, to wit, he that is set over the best part of mankind and over chaos. Saraqâêl, one of the holy angels, who is set over the spirits, who sin in the spirit. Gabriel, one of the holy angels, who is over Paradise and the serpents and the Cherubim. Remiel, one of the holy angels, whom God set over those who rise.

This is the most plausible explanation and isopen for other views but this puzzled me for a while and I started researching the event.


Conclusion

The young man was that angel REmiel this time being the chieF ANGELS of thsoe who rise, they do come for an indivdual before they die to watch over them until the last breath. He is seen wearing linen which represented the death and burial clothes and his nakedness represents christs bodily death.

In MARK chapter 16 he is seen again this time not in linen but in the "white garments" promised to those who are righteous in the resurrection.All symbolic of the death and resurrection of Yehshiyeh{jesus}


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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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a present for my friends at thanksgiving...
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a present for my friends at thanksgiving...
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I don't understand?
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Thanks I check this out later v interesting
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Thanks I check this out later v interesting
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Was he naked or in linen?

Which is it??? This is the reason why no one takes the bible seriously or those who read it.
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Was he naked or in linen?

Which is it??? This is the reason why no one takes the bible seriously or those who read it.
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Was he naked or in linen?

Which is it??? This is the reason why no one takes the bible seriously or those who read it.
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he wore linen but when the soldier tried to grab him he fled leaving the linen behind

Did you not see that in the thread?

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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i was always under the impression it was mark
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i was always under the impression it was mark
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that is what those dumb seminarians been teaching
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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It is Lazarus....It is a ressurection Ritual.
Lazarus is the one whom Jesus Loved and he wrote the Gospel of John..

Joh_13:23 Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.

Joh_11:5 Now Jesus loved Martha, and her sister, and Lazarus.
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It is Lazarus....It is a ressurection Ritual.
Lazarus is the one whom Jesus Loved and he wrote the Gospel of John..

Joh_13:23 Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.

Joh_11:5 Now Jesus loved Martha, and her sister, and Lazarus.
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Sorry friend you are way off
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Bible encyclopedia names these angels? The Bible doesn't mention them. Angelology was big in Jewish mysticism. Anyway, the Bible doesn't say who it was, and I doubt that a mere dirt man can reach out and touch an angel if the action is not allowed. Angels come from the very throne room of God. They do Gods will, not mans.
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It is Lazarus....It is a ressurection Ritual.
Lazarus is the one whom Jesus Loved and he wrote the Gospel of John..

Joh_13:23 Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.

Joh_11:5 Now Jesus loved Martha, and her sister, and Lazarus.
 Quoting: powerup


Sorry friend you are way off
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How is a Young man now Remiel, a freaking Angel?

Sorry you're way fucking off dude.

The young man was that angel REmiel this time being the chieF ANGELS of thsoe who rise, they do come for an indivdual before they die to watch over them until the last breath. He is seen wearing linen which represented the death and burial clothes and his nakedness represents christs bodily death.

Now that is indoctrinated Bullshit Friend.

5And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.

Lazarus is the only one who would know about rising from the dead.
Not some made up Angel.

Show me where angels are called young MEN???????????????
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According to Chuck Missler it is Mark. He would have been woken up in the middle of the night as they where going to all of Jesus's old stomping grounds looking for Him. After they came to Mark's door looking for Jesus, Mark put on a towel quickly so that he could follow the soldiers to see what was going to happen to Jesus.
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According to Chuck Missler it is Mark. He would have been woken up in the middle of the night as they where going to all of Jesus's old stomping grounds looking for Him. After they came to Mark's door looking for Jesus, Mark put on a towel quickly so that he could follow the soldiers to see what was going to happen to Jesus.
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chuck? please
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Michael the archangel?
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It is Lazarus....It is a ressurection Ritual.
Lazarus is the one whom Jesus Loved and he wrote the Gospel of John..

Joh_13:23 Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.

Joh_11:5 Now Jesus loved Martha, and her sister, and Lazarus.
 Quoting: powerup


Sorry friend you are way off
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


How is a Young man now Remiel, a freaking Angel?

Sorry you're way fucking off dude.

The young man was that angel REmiel this time being the chieF ANGELS of thsoe who rise, they do come for an indivdual before they die to watch over them until the last breath. He is seen wearing linen which represented the death and burial clothes and his nakedness represents christs bodily death.

Now that is indoctrinated Bullshit Friend.

5And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.

Lazarus is the only one who would know about rising from the dead.
Not some made up Angel.

Show me where angels are called young MEN???????????????
 Quoting: powerup


angels can take up human form at will


And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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The young man in linen?
It was Lenin.
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"He is seen wearing linen which represented the death and burial clothes and His nakedness represents Christ's bodily death."




An interesting conclusion I concur with despite at odds with everything else you had to say of the matter.


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Michael the archangel?
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michael is the angel of war
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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We read all of Mark last week for my Disciple class (Methodist church) (we're now reading Luke for this week) ... we briefly talked about whom that mysterious young man was.

I thought it was an angel also.

But, why would the angel "run away". Seems like an odd choice of words, especially when Mark (the author(s) of Mark) were very particular with their words throughout the Gospel.

I guess we will never truly know. However, I am still leaning towards an angel. But as to which angel? I'm not 100% sold on Remiel, but could well have been a lower-level angel just witnessing the event. *shrugs*

And yes, angels were often depicted as 'young men' in the Bible.
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We read all of Mark last week for my Disciple class (Methodist church) (we're now reading Luke for this week) ... we briefly talked about whom that mysterious young man was.

I thought it was an angel also.

But, why would the angel "run away". Seems like an odd choice of words, especially when Mark (the author(s) of Mark) were very particular with their words throughout the Gospel.

I guess we will never truly know. However, I am still leaning towards an angel. But as to which angel? I'm not 100% sold on Remiel, but could well have been a lower-level angel just witnessing the event. *shrugs*

And yes, angels were often depicted as 'young men' in the Bible.
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Thank you and I am not teisting anyones arm but it is something to reaaly think about...Many people discredit the books ruled out by Nicea but it is evident that the Jude the brother of Jesus and peter and the author of hebrews endorsed it
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Hey! Here's mentioned of a young man with a linen around his waist .... I wonder if could be the same man ??????????

Go to time marker: 28:00 ... and watch for about 2 minutes.

At time marker: 31.20 - it speaks of exactly this mysterious young man at the time of Jesus' arrest in the garden!!



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Hey! Here's mentioned of a young man with a linen around his waist .... I wonder if could be the same man ??????????

Go to time marker: 28:00 ... and watch for about 2 minutes.

At time marker: 31.20 - it speaks of exactly this mysterious young man at the time of Jesus' arrest in the garden!!

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blasphemy sorry I reject it strongly. I WILL PREPARE A DOC AMD TRACK THE TIME ..

I will post it tommorow

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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To flee naked is a great shame and humiliation. Some teach this young man was James, the brother of the Lord, while others say that is was the apostle John, the youngest of the twelve. Most others believe this was Mark, the author of this Gospel, as it was a common literary device for ta writer not to geve his own name. The other evangelists do not report this incident. They would not have been inclined to humiliate Mark, whereas Mark would have been more likely to relate such an event concerning himself.
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linen grows only in Eastern Europe.
and in case of this man, yes, it was man, not angel.

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