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Hi Astro, you show us that the best place to see the impact if there is one would be off the west coast of Africa.

Will you be able to see it from The Observatory up mount Teide in Tenerife, Canary Islands?

I hope so, I'll be living about 20 mins from there very soon. There is a hotel near it where you can stay it gets pack with amateur Star Gazers etc.
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I know virtually nothing about astronomy, but I think it is clear that Dr. Astro knows about 100,000 times more about it than the average "rebuttal" poster.

As always, time will tell who is right and who is wrong, but thanks very much for the video and summary, Dr. Astro.
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Remember, "scientiests" for thousands of years adamantly maintained that the Earth was flat.

Back then, you can be certain "Dr. Astro" would have been one of them. The vulger and crude one of them.
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Actually scientists for thousands of years now, since the time of Eratosthenes, have known that the world was round. In fact, Eratosthenes even measured its circumference. It was the uneducated class who continued to hold onto superstitions about the shape of the world, scholars knew the truth because they had studied the empirical data and understood it. Some things never change, some idiots continue to believe it's flat. Just fewer than before, thankfully, but in some ways the public understanding of science is still very poor.
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P.S. Take no notice of the complete an utter twats out there. They are just crying because they hate having their doom bubbles burst.
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Hi Astro, you show us that the best place to see the impact if there is one would be off the west coast of Africa.

Will you be able to see it from The Observatory up mount Teide in Tenerife, Canary Islands?

I hope so, I'll be living about 20 mins from there very soon. There is a hotel near it where you can stay it gets pack with amateur Star Gazers etc.
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Yes, in fact it will be about 20 degrees above the horizon from Tenerife, so pretty easily observable (I think Slooh also has a telescope up there but I don't know what its lower altitude limit is). Good idea, great observing location!

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Hi Astro, you show us that the best place to see the impact if there is one would be off the west coast of Africa.

Will you be able to see it from The Observatory up mount Teide in Tenerife, Canary Islands?

I hope so, I'll be living about 20 mins from there very soon. There is a hotel near it where you can stay it gets pack with amateur Star Gazers etc.
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Yes, in fact it will be about 20 degrees above the horizon from Tenerife, so pretty easily observable (I think Slooh also has a telescope up there but I don't know what its lower altitude limit is). Good idea, great observing location!
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Thankyou so much. Have you ever been up Teide? It's just amazing what you get to see up there. Maybe you should make a trip there for this if this thing is gunna hit!
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Hi Astro, you show us that the best place to see the impact if there is one would be off the west coast of Africa.

Will you be able to see it from The Observatory up mount Teide in Tenerife, Canary Islands?

I hope so, I'll be living about 20 mins from there very soon. There is a hotel near it where you can stay it gets pack with amateur Star Gazers etc.
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Yes, in fact it will be about 20 degrees above the horizon from Tenerife, so pretty easily observable (I think Slooh also has a telescope up there but I don't know what its lower altitude limit is). Good idea, great observing location!
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Thankyou so much. Have you ever been up Teide? It's just amazing what you get to see up there. Maybe you should make a trip there for this if this thing is gunna hit!
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I rather like that idea. If it turns out it's going to hit I'll do everything I can to make it over that way. I've never been to Mt. Teide or the Canary islands before.
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Hi Astro, you show us that the best place to see the impact if there is one would be off the west coast of Africa.

Will you be able to see it from The Observatory up mount Teide in Tenerife, Canary Islands?

I hope so, I'll be living about 20 mins from there very soon. There is a hotel near it where you can stay it gets pack with amateur Star Gazers etc.
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Yes, in fact it will be about 20 degrees above the horizon from Tenerife, so pretty easily observable (I think Slooh also has a telescope up there but I don't know what its lower altitude limit is). Good idea, great observing location!
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Thankyou so much. Have you ever been up Teide? It's just amazing what you get to see up there. Maybe you should make a trip there for this if this thing is gunna hit!
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I rather like that idea. If it turns out it's going to hit I'll do everything I can to make it over that way. I've never been to Mt. Teide or the Canary islands before.
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you will love it, The people are very warm and friendly and there is so much more to do, I can not wait to move their in two months. You can go up the mountain on a new moon and just lie there (wrapped up as its bloody cold) and look at the milky way.
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Could someone please create a factode page, and eliminate all the bs so as calculations and changes occur there is a place to keep up, without the bikering ds.
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Could someone please create a factode page, and eliminate all the bs so as calculations and changes occur there is a place to keep up, without the bikering ds.
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Not a bad idea. I added the video to the first post and I'll start adding updates there so you don't have to wade through the BS to find it.
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Here's my video update on the potential for collision with Mars (using astrometric data through March 1st):

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Thanks, Astro!
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Cool vid Astromut.
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Remember, "scientiests" for thousands of years adamantly maintained that the Earth was flat.

Back then, you can be certain "Dr. Astro" would have been one of them. The vulger and crude one of them.
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^^THIS^^
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"scientists" back then compared to "scientists" now are two completely different and opposite things... Nice try shill...
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No a scientist has always been one thing and always will, a pursuer of truth, and nothing more. You can tell the difference between a scientist and an ego bruised loon when they actually care if you believe what they believe. Scientist seek the truth, provide it for others, and let them decide what to do with it. People like you and astro claim to be "scientists" but for whatever reason possess no quality of a scientific mind. Astro has an agenda, and this much has always been obvious. You clearly do as well, unless your really just THAT INTO astro. Faggot.
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LOL! What do you call this then?
Thread: Calculating the Position and Orientation of the Moon
Thread: Calculating the Position and Orientation of the Moon Part 2: Astrometric Validation
You seem to think it's merely my "opinion." I call it seeking the truth and providing it for others. And unlike this thread, you don't even need a telescope to do this or verify it for yourself. You lack the "quality of a scientific mind" that would allow you to understand it though, let alone do it yourself. Not only that, but my knowledge and expertise intimidates you. That's why you keep posting on this thread viciously attacking people. You clearly have an agenda, a desperate agenda to discredit me because you can't compete intellectually. You couldn't have done what I did there, and that scares you.
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So will NASA leave Curiosity on Mars to die a painful death ?
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So will NASA leave Curiosity on Mars to die a painful death ?
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Yeah, pretty much. That was always going to be its fate, it's just going to come a lot sooner if this thing happens to hit the right spot.
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Remember, "scientiests" for thousands of years adamantly maintained that the Earth was flat.
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Out of which body orrifice did you pull this particularly non-factual factoid?

The ancient Greek had already proven that the Earth is spherical and measured its size, and they were proto-scientists at best.
Learn something about science and "scientiests" before talking about "scientiests".
It will make you look less like an idiot.
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So will NASA leave Curiosity on Mars to die a painful death ?
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The odds are it will be save.
Planets are big.

The probes orbiting Mars might have to plough through the thrown-up cloud of debris though.
Hitting even a tiny grain at those speeds would destroy the probe.
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Random twit here.

I for one see Dr Astro's video for what it is. Not a statement that there is definitely going to be a hit on Mars, but that with the available data, it can't be ruled out and is in fact, a distinct possibility.

In addition to that, he has also pointed out that if it does happen, when and where the best places are on Earth, to see it.

If it does happen, and you are in the choice viewing area, you will see something very very special. As far as I know, something that no one else on Earth has ever seen.

BTW, great vid.
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Thank you Doc!

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Random twit here.

I for one see Dr Astro's video for what it is. Not a statement that there is definitely going to be a hit on Mars, but that with the available data, it can't be ruled out and is in fact, a distinct possibility.

In addition to that, he has also pointed out that if it does happen, when and where the best places are on Earth, to see it.

If it does happen, and you are in the choice viewing area, you will see something very very special. As far as I know, something that no one else on Earth has ever seen.

BTW, great vid.
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sure. you'll see Mars, if you have a big telescope.
but the show is going to be on the other side of the planet than what your viewing.

(maybe you'll see it wobble back and forth when the comet hits, though)
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Random twit here.

I for one see Dr Astro's video for what it is. Not a statement that there is definitely going to be a hit on Mars, but that with the available data, it can't be ruled out and is in fact, a distinct possibility.

In addition to that, he has also pointed out that if it does happen, when and where the best places are on Earth, to see it.

If it does happen, and you are in the choice viewing area, you will see something very very special. As far as I know, something that no one else on Earth has ever seen.

BTW, great vid.
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sure. you'll see Mars, if you have a big telescope.
but the show is going to be on the other side of the planet than what your viewing.

(maybe you'll see it wobble back and forth when the comet hits, though)
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As I showed in my video, that is unknown at this time, if it hits (unlikely, but possible) it could hit either side of the planet.
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Random twit here.

I for one see Dr Astro's video for what it is. Not a statement that there is definitely going to be a hit on Mars, but that with the available data, it can't be ruled out and is in fact, a distinct possibility.

In addition to that, he has also pointed out that if it does happen, when and where the best places are on Earth, to see it.

If it does happen, and you are in the choice viewing area, you will see something very very special. As far as I know, something that no one else on Earth has ever seen.

BTW, great vid.
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sure. you'll see Mars, if you have a big telescope.
but the show is going to be on the other side of the planet than what your viewing.

(maybe you'll see it wobble back and forth when the comet hits, though)
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As I showed in my video, that is unknown at this time, if it hits (unlikely, but possible) it could hit either side of the planet.
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with the direction it's coming from, it can only and
solely hit the far side of Mars (from earth's view), dumb ass.
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and, ever since they tried to burn down the Siding Spring Observatory on January 13,
all of the other observatories in the world have been
afraid to publish the truth about Comet C/2013 A1 for fear
that they will be next.
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Take my hat off to you Dr*
(or should that be Star Doc?)
for bothering to share your
calculations and video with
this eclectic community.

If it hits or not, the closeness
of a comet this size with our
reddish neighbour should be
one spectacular encounter!

I will have a cheers or two
next October and toast you
for your consideration!
"When your eyes are incapable of tears,
your ears lose their sensitivity,
your voice is unable to wound and
your feet are cleansed in the blood
of your heart, then you may stand
in the presence of your master."

Loosely translated from:
"Light on the Path"
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sure. you'll see Mars, if you have a big telescope.
but the show is going to be on the other side of the planet than what your viewing.

(maybe you'll see it wobble back and forth when the comet hits, though)
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


As I showed in my video, that is unknown at this time, if it hits (unlikely, but possible) it could hit either side of the planet.
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with the direction it's coming from, it can only and
solely hit the far side of Mars (from earth's view), dumb ass.


well, i just looked at the map again, and i am wrong about the above.

it is as Dr. Astro says: the Comet could hit either side
of Mars, indeed.
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Random twit here.

I for one see Dr Astro's video for what it is. Not a statement that there is definitely going to be a hit on Mars, but that with the available data, it can't be ruled out and is in fact, a distinct possibility.

In addition to that, he has also pointed out that if it does happen, when and where the best places are on Earth, to see it.

If it does happen, and you are in the choice viewing area, you will see something very very special. As far as I know, something that no one else on Earth has ever seen.

BTW, great vid.
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sure. you'll see Mars, if you have a big telescope.
but the show is going to be on the other side of the planet than what your viewing.

(maybe you'll see it wobble back and forth when the comet hits, though)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1545225


As I showed in my video, that is unknown at this time, if it hits (unlikely, but possible) it could hit either side of the planet.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


with the direction it's coming from, it can only and
solely hit the far side of Mars (from earth's view), dumb ass.
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Watch the video, it can hit either side.

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Astro is the go-to shill for GLP. It's always clear he has an agenda. He monitors this site 24/7. You CAN NOT make a "the moon is off" thread without astro being there in 30 seconds to debunk it by directing you to "his" thread with "his" calculations on where the mooon is supposed to be in "his" OPINION. And he will not leave said thread until he has derailed it or everyone agrees with him. But even on his own thread getting attacked does not reply, because he has no explanation.
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Maybe its because you fucking idiots still believe the world is flat, OH WAIT or that nibiru is coming, WAIT WAIT THERES MORE or that we should have somehow detected that minute small tiny chunk of space rock that hit russia and caused every single human being to finally realize that shit does hit Earth. IT is so easy to debunk most of the moronic theories produced here its not funny. Hats off to one of the true GLPers Dr ASTRO. A voice of intelligence in a sea of stupidity.
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19 pages and I haven't read any of it.

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sure. you'll see Mars, if you have a big telescope.
but the show is going to be on the other side of the planet than what your viewing.

(maybe you'll see it wobble back and forth when the comet hits, though)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1545225


As I showed in my video, that is unknown at this time, if it hits (unlikely, but possible) it could hit either side of the planet.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


with the direction it's coming from, it can only and
solely hit the far side of Mars (from earth's view), dumb ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1545225


Watch the video, it can hit either side.
[link to www.youtube.com]
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yes. i have already apologized for my error.
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As I showed in my video, that is unknown at this time, if it hits (unlikely, but possible) it could hit either side of the planet.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


with the direction it's coming from, it can only and
solely hit the far side of Mars (from earth's view), dumb ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1545225


Watch the video, it can hit either side.
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


yes. i have already apologized for my error.
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We posted at the same time. Apology accepted.
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sure. you'll see Mars, if you have a big telescope.
but the show is going to be on the other side of the planet than what your viewing.

(maybe you'll see it wobble back and forth when the comet hits, though)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1545225


As I showed in my video, that is unknown at this time, if it hits (unlikely, but possible) it could hit either side of the planet.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


with the direction it's coming from, it can only and
solely hit the far side of Mars (from earth's view), dumb ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1545225


Watch the video, it can hit either side.

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What are the possible scenarios if the comet has a very close flyby that alters the course of the its orbit to either impact mars of another planets. maybe even earth.

for example passes very close causing a serious deviation in orbit sending it to the inner solar system>?
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As I showed in my video, that is unknown at this time, if it hits (unlikely, but possible) it could hit either side of the planet.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


with the direction it's coming from, it can only and
solely hit the far side of Mars (from earth's view), dumb ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1545225


Watch the video, it can hit either side.

 Quoting: Dr. Astro


What are the possible scenarios if the comet has a very close flyby that alters the course of the its orbit to either impact mars of another planets. maybe even earth.

for example passes very close causing a serious deviation in orbit sending it to the inner solar system>?
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The comet is traveling so fast relative to Mars that even a very near miss results in negligible deviation. The comet is very near perihelion by the time it reaches Mars and because of its extremely inclined orbit it does not get anywhere near any other planets. My simulation took into account the gravity of Mars as well as the other planets, and yet even the closest virtual comets did not have their orbits significantly changed by the encounter, let alone in a way that would permit an encounter with another planet.
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