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Potential Epic Comet Collision with Mars in 2014 *UPDATE: VIDEO ON FIRST POST*

 
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Interesting how the attention is directed far into the future, meanwhile you should be looking right in front of you. Very clever
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^This.

Wake the fuck up people.

Classic distraction.
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Nope. Just posting info I found very interesting that I thought others here would too.
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Thanks Dr.Astro!
Very interesting one!
cheers
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Thank you Sir... very neat!
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Interesting how the attention is directed far into the future, meanwhile you should be looking right in front of you. Very clever
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^This.

Wake the fuck up people.

Classic distraction.
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Nope. Just posting info I found very interesting that I thought others here would too.
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Theres a war going on cruise

Just imagine it alone
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Re: Potential Epic Comet Collision with Mars in 2014 *UPDATE: VIDEO ON FIRST POST*
Since C/2013 A1 is a hyperbolic comet and moves in a retrograde orbit, its velocity with respect to the planet will be very high, approximately 56 km/s. With the current estimate of the absolute magnitude of the nucleus M2 = 10.3, which might indicate the diameter of over 50 km, the energy of impact might reach the equivalent of staggering 2×10¹º megatonnes! This kind of event can leave a crater 500 km across and 2 km deep. Such an event would overshadow even the famous bombardment of Jupiter by the disintegrated comet Shoemaker–Levy 9 in July 1994, which by some estimates was originally 15 m in diameter.


[link to spaceobs.org]
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SHOEMAKER - LEVY

[link to en.wikipedia.org]




Astronomers had expected to see the fireballs from the impacts, but did not have any idea in advance how visible the atmospheric effects of the impacts would be from Earth. Observers soon saw a huge dark spot after the first impact. The spot was visible even in very small telescopes, and was about 6,000 km (3,700 mi) (one Earth radius) across. This and subsequent dark spots were thought to have been caused by debris from the impacts, and were markedly asymmetric, forming crescent shapes in front of the direction of impact.[16]

Over the next 6 days, 21 distinct impacts were observed, with the largest coming on July 18 at 07:33 UTC when fragment G struck Jupiter. This impact created a giant dark spot over 12,000 km across, and was estimated to have released an energy equivalent to 6,000,000 megatons of TNT (600 times the world's nuclear arsenal).[17] Two impacts 12 hours apart on July 19 created impact marks of similar size to that caused by fragment G, and impacts continued until July 22, when fragment W struck the planet.[18]
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finally, an astro thread that doesn't seem to be 100% disinfo

5a
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yah I agree... but nothing is going to happen...

doom off.
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Possible epic photo's from the rover if it happens !
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One of the questions I want to answer with my analysis is, would there still be a rover?
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How big is it? will it melt off the surface and recause a "Iron Catastrophy" then restart the magnetosphere in time making mars once again habital?
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Possible epic photo's from the rover if it happens !
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One of the questions I want to answer with my analysis is, would there still be a rover?
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How big is it? will it melt off the surface and recause a "Iron Catastrophy" then restart the magnetosphere in time making mars once again habital?
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Not THAT big. Hard to say exactly this early on, but we're talking about something potentially as much as 2 orders of magnitude more powerful than the chicxulub event.
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Poor Martians. verysad

And this was just discovered last month and it might hit next year? Only 1 year warning. Just think if it was heading our way, there is nothing we could do about it. That's big enough to wipe out all life on Earth huh?
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I wonder if we have anything actually finished yet, i mean they have been working on ideas for moving asteroids and such, i wonder if they have one actually done and ready to test? Would be a perfect opportunity to get it up there and see if it helped move it enough to stop a collision.

Or maybe its already too late to implement ...could take awhile to nudge it off course, don't know how long but i don't know if we would have time to get one up and working to the comet to try it out.
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Right now, our best hypothetical deflection techniques are intended for small asteroids that are years out from impact. This is a totally different level of trouble, and unlike the hollywood movies, could not be solved by stuffing a shuttle with Bruce Willis and a nuke.
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What if we turned out ALL the lights and pretended we weren't at home?
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cruise









angry2 STUPID ASTEROIDS
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I think we all need to take time to appreciate the fact that at this moment we don't KNOW one is heading toward earth, but I have this gut feeling that isn't going to last long.
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damned
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Possible epic photo's from the rover if it happens !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33838111


One of the questions I want to answer with my analysis is, would there still be a rover?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


How big is it? will it melt off the surface and recause a "Iron Catastrophy" then restart the magnetosphere in time making mars once again habital?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35131605


Not THAT big. Hard to say exactly this early on, but we're talking about something potentially as much as 2 orders of magnitude more powerful than the chicxulub event.
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hrmmm. interesting (hope this vid embeds)

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Staggering, isn't it?
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Poor Martians. verysad

And this was just discovered last month and it might hit next year? Only 1 year warning. Just think if it was heading our way, there is nothing we could do about it. That's big enough to wipe out all life on Earth huh?
 Quoting: BoxerLvr


I wonder if we have anything actually finished yet, i mean they have been working on ideas for moving asteroids and such, i wonder if they have one actually done and ready to test? Would be a perfect opportunity to get it up there and see if it helped move it enough to stop a collision.

Or maybe its already too late to implement ...could take awhile to nudge it off course, don't know how long but i don't know if we would have time to get one up and working to the comet to try it out.
 Quoting: PolarPrecursor


Right now, our best hypothetical deflection techniques are intended for small asteroids that are years out from impact. This is a totally different level of trouble, and unlike the hollywood movies, could not be solved by stuffing a shuttle with Bruce Willis and a nuke.
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I am currently working on a plan to land on it, retrofit it with some kickass boosters, and ride that bitch straight into the sun...Actually working on a side plan to jump off as it passes by Earth smashing that dudes freefall record, still have a couple more kinks to work out..but yeah, you will be able to catch it all on youtube..peace
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Wheres the kaboom?

Wheres the Earth shattering kaboom?
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It would be a very, very bad day to be a martian if this thing hits.
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IF there were Martians, which, of course, there AREN'T!


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and mars got virtually no atmosphere; it means no slowing down if impact, this shit need to be filmed if it occurs, will be one of the most doomish video ever recorded for sure 5a
ty for the info astro !! *****
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Doomgasm! lol
I'm tired of waiting, somebody push the damn button already!

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Never heard of comet Epic
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Re: Potential Epic Comet Collision with Mars in 2014 *UPDATE: VIDEO ON FIRST POST*
So it will be a very close approach to Mars. And we're not sure yet if it misses, which side of Mars will it miss? With a very close approach, will not the gravity of Mars alter the orbit of the Comet? And we won't know the new trajectory till after Oct 3-4, 2013? Won't the possibilities include potential close approaches to the other inner planets?
In his book, "Between Two Ages," Brzezinski wrote: "The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values."

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Hmmm..another idea ...you know that scientists have theorized for decades that asteroids and comets may have kick started life on our planet.
We may have gotten most of our water from icy asteroids or large comets..they have said.

Maybe this in the long run, if it hits, might turn out to be a good thing for Mars..bring more water to the planet ... all that moisture gathering in Mars's very thin atmosphere..creating clouds and maybe rain...maybe the comet is carrying some kind of microbial life just ready to kick start Mars back into the life cycle again..if it happened to Earth seems to me it could happen to Mars..again.
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The Millenial Project suggests doing exactly this to begin terraforming Mars, though only one comet wouldn't do the job
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Would the impact have any consequences for us here on earth?
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After an early morning comet sighting....

In spanish school a kid screamed ....

Hay viene el cometota !


and his teacher told him , were? ! I want to meet him !


lol
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Obvious question... Comet hit Jupiter. Comet could hit Mars. In a 10 year period? That seems statistically improbable. That just an anomaly? I'm generally a skeptic to the doomsayers. But the fact that thi even could be news that Earth could be getting is pretty chilling!
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one also hit saturn and an asteroid may have hit mars a few years ago.
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This is a diversion to take attention away from the "lens flare" Thread: Large UNIDENTIFIED object approaching EARTH ~ Visible NOW on Stereo Ahead HI1 ~ IS it THIS Blue object NOW VISIBLE in our skies??

Just like DA14 was a diversion to take your attention off of the "cosmic coincidence" that hit Russia on February 15th.
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This is a diversion to take attention away from the "lens flare" Thread: Large UNIDENTIFIED object approaching EARTH ~ Visible NOW on Stereo Ahead HI1 ~ IS it THIS Blue object NOW VISIBLE in our skies??

Just like DA14 was a diversion to take your attention off of the "cosmic coincidence" that hit Russia on February 15th.
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You re just pissed because Astromut debunked your arse.
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Hmmm..another idea ...you know that scientists have theorized for decades that asteroids and comets may have kick started life on our planet.
We may have gotten most of our water from icy asteroids or large comets..they have said.

Maybe this in the long run, if it hits, might turn out to be a good thing for Mars..bring more water to the planet ... all that moisture gathering in Mars's very thin atmosphere..creating clouds and maybe rain...maybe the comet is carrying some kind of microbial life just ready to kick start Mars back into the life cycle again..if it happened to Earth seems to me it could happen to Mars..again.
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The Millenial Project suggests doing exactly this to begin terraforming Mars, though only one comet wouldn't do the job
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An ice comet 50 Km wide would have a volume of approximately 60,000 cubic Km. That could make a whole lot of lakes/oceans.
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You re just pissed because Astromut debunked your arse.
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^This
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Maybe this will heat up Mars a little... One step closer to being habitable lol
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Or we'll get to see some real shit alien comet smashing technology soon.


I wonder how bright the impact would be viewing from Earth.
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I have several tomato plants on Mars, should I bring them in?
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Actually, a giant comet disintegrated 18,000 years ago and caused the great ice age. the remnants of it are still floating around us and cause the seasonal meteor showers and periodic bigger impcts. Bigger chunks of it have struck the earth and are associated with the sumerian collapse (2200 BC) and the collapse of the roman empire (500 AD). Since the renaissance, five strikes have occured and have coincided with wars and upheaveal. These strikes seem to occur between every 100-200 years. Perhaps we are now in a period of increased fireballs.

the above info according to a scientist who wrote a report for oxford university. His last name is Clube, and the report is named something like Periodic Hazard of Fireballs.

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