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Potential Epic Comet Collision with Mars in 2014 *UPDATE: VIDEO ON FIRST POST*

 
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I'm working on my own analysis of the comet's orbit and the potential risk right now, but in the meantime since word is starting to get around about this I wanted to go ahead and make the thread to put this out there. Hat tip to Dr. Ian Musgrave:
[link to astroblogger.blogspot.com]
Now, it's important to point out that we don't know the orbit well enough yet to know if it will hit or not. It could make a very close pass to Mars, or it could collide. We just don't know yet. I'm currently running my own analysis to try to determine the level of risk. If it hits though (which would be on October 19th, 2014), the impact will be tremendous. This comet is on a retrograde orbit, traveling the opposite direction of the planets, so a head-on collision would be in excess of 50 km/sec. That's very, very high. Minimum distance of the approach is currently sitting at 0 on JPL's site, maximum distance is at 0.00794 AU.
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
It would be a very, very bad day to be a martian if this thing hits.
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Stop fear mongering. It won't even come within 500,000 km.
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[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
What does that say for nominal distance?
0.000702579321135921 AU
That's 105,104.37 km.
What's it say for minimum distance?
0.
It might miss by more than 500,000km, or it might not miss at all. It is unknown at this time. That is not fear mongering, that is the real situation of our orbital determination thus far.
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I'm working on my own analysis of the comet's orbit and the potential risk right now, but in the meantime since word is starting to get around about this I wanted to go ahead and make the thread to put this out there. Hat tip to Dr. Ian Musgrave:
[link to astroblogger.blogspot.com]
Now, it's important to point out that we don't know the orbit well enough yet to know if it will hit or not. It could make a very close pass to Mars, or it could collide. We just don't know yet. I'm currently running my own analysis to try to determine the level of risk. If it hits though (which would be on October 19th, 2014), the impact will be tremendous. This comet is on a retrograde orbit, traveling the opposite direction of the planets, so a head-on collision would be in excess of 50 km/sec. That's very, very high. Minimum distance of the approach is currently sitting at 0 on JPL's site, maximum distance is at 0.00794 AU.
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
It would be a very, very bad day to be a martian if this thing hits.
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Stop fear mongering. It won't even come within 500,000 km.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2497831


[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
What does that say for nominal distance?
0.000702579321135921 AU
That's 105,104.37 km.
What's it say for minimum distance?
0.
It might miss by more than 500,000km, or it might not miss at all. It is unknown at this time. That is not fear mongering, that is the real situation of our orbital determination thus far.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


so astro....
when was the last time you were called a space fear monger?
a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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Re: Potential Epic Comet Collision with Mars in 2014 *UPDATE: VIDEO ON FIRST POST*
So it will be a very close approach to Mars. And we're not sure yet if it misses, which side of Mars will it miss? With a very close approach, will not the gravity of Mars alter the orbit of the Comet? And we won't know the new trajectory till after Oct 3-4, 2013? Won't the possibilities include potential close approaches to the other inner planets?
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Very cool! This may be a stupid question, but is there any way we would be able to witness this from Earth? Through a telescope perhaps?

Thanks for all of your threads on here, I always enjoy reading them and appreciate your cosmic insight. 5 stars and karma.
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Hi Dr Astro. I'm thinking you missed this ^^^ post. But, I would also like to know. Thanks in advance. Keep up the good work.
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Yes, according to Ian's post it should be visible from earth (at least Mars will be, again, no idea where on mars it will hit yet but I will work on that), but I haven't yet determined where exactly you'll have to be to see it.




He answered you on the first page.....
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why would we want to go to Mars anyways lol , I thought Mars was like Earth was once. If you guys want to watch an interesting video. YouTube this .... Hidden Human History...really great short film everyone should watch.





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Re: Potential Epic Comet Collision with Mars in 2014 *UPDATE: VIDEO ON FIRST POST*
You know what would be really cool?

If a piece of Mars more than 300 meters wide was launched into space by this collision, and landed here on Earth, in a populated area!


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i still would like to know what made this scar on the face of mars?????
:mars act:
:mars CU:
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Probably big asteroid or comet ..

[link to www.transcend.ws]

[link to www.esa.int]
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You know what would be really cool?

If a piece of Mars more than 300 meters wide was launched into space by this collision, and landed here on Earth, in a populated area!


banana2
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This is close, but it is not a piece of Mars.
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You know what would be really cool?

If a piece of Mars more than 300 meters wide was launched into space by this collision, and landed here on Earth, in a populated area!


banana2
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This is close, but it is not a piece of Mars.
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wtf
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Re: Potential Epic Comet Collision with Mars in 2014 *UPDATE: VIDEO ON FIRST POST*
Lot of meteorites impacted on earth are from mars and they impacted coz of collisions with mars millions years ago that sent debris in space:

this one reached Earth millions years after the impact on mars that sent it in space:



So in my opinion if that impact will happen lot of debris from mars will hit the earth in future...
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Lot of meteorites impacted on earth are from mars and they impacted coz of collisions with mars millions years ago that sent debris in space:

this one reached Earth millions years after the impact on mars that sent it in space:



So in my opinion if that impact will happen lot of debris from mars will hit the earth in future...
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In the near future, I hope.

And a big one.
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Re: Potential Epic Comet Collision with Mars in 2014 *UPDATE: VIDEO ON FIRST POST*
Dr Astro please take a look at this video:



according to it the Earth orbit looks close to Mars during the possible impact... is there any possibility in your opinion that if it miss Mars will be deviated by Mars gravity in Earth direction?
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Mars Curiosity and MER mission on the surface and doing a survey before the damage is done..

That would be my guess..

From all the debunking Astro claims and proves...
If he starts a suspicion, I will pay attention and give it some thought..
Only makes sense...

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Wow Astro...Thanks for the news...This could be quite the show...Hope the Mars home owners have collsion insurance!!!
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Mmm.. maybe for astronomers this event is better than sex, but the rest of the earthlings really don't give a sh*t about space collisions that can't be seen with the naked eye.
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Mmm.. maybe for astronomers this event is better than sex, but the rest of the earthlings really don't give a sh*t about space collisions that can't be seen with the naked eye.
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This will be very visible to the naked eye. It should be the most amazing heavenly sight seen in centuries.
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Mmm.. maybe for astronomers this event is better than sex, but the rest of the earthlings really don't give a sh*t about space collisions that can't be seen with the naked eye.
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You cared enough to click on the thread Kermit.
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Mmm.. maybe for astronomers this event is better than sex, but the rest of the earthlings really don't give a sh*t about space collisions that can't be seen with the naked eye.
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You cared enough to click on the thread Kermit.
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For those interested...Wal Mart does sell a nice 8 inch telescope w/tripod and extras for $200...I started out using one of those...
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Bring in your Martian tomato plants now!

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Comet size please.
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Well so much for everybody running and hiding on Mars. Poetic Justice. LOL. We would just fuck up that planet too.

So I'm guessing if this thing hits mars with that kind of force it could what...Knock it off its orbit...Create lots of debris... What else.
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It wouldn't knock it off its orbit, you'd be amazed how much inertia a planet like Mars has, but it's hard to overstate just how massive the force of the collision would be. The explosion would be several orders of magnitude greater than every single nuclear weapon on earth combined.
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i thought comets were ice and dust. wouldn't it just burn up in the atmosphere?
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Hi Dr. Astro

I'd like to know what possible object could be this in the following video according to your knowledge. It's a long video but very quickly you can look several pictures and videos from the Volcan Turrialba, which makes me wondering about it.

I've been trying to do my little research a couple astronomical software but it doesn't seem any known planet or moon.

Here the video:

[link to www.youtube.com]


Thanks
 Quoting: pstrusi


Lens flare.
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
It can be seen appearing in front of clouds, it forms a straight line, and it always points back towards the sun.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I do remember that Masters from this video said the Earth would be all but destroyed by Planet-X in 2012.

I think the Earth and its cities are still intact therefore he was wrong and should not be listened to again...

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Sweeeet!!!
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Water
i still would like to know what made this scar on the face of mars?????
:mars act:
:mars CU:
 Quoting: psyoptics
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i still would like to know what made this scar on the face of mars?????
:mars act:
:mars CU:
 Quoting: psyoptics

Electrical discharge? Failed experement in the past?
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odds

what are the ODDS of a comet hitting the inner planets?

very odds on against. it's a bit like shooting a bullet in the air over a huge wooded area, and hoping to hit one of four rabbits running around in there when it comes back down

now, what this suggests to me is there are MANY objects incoming, for one to actually be progged to HIT one of the rabbits in 2014!

i know, i'll stop the crap analogies now.

so, are there loads of objects out there they are staying silent about, I wonder?
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Well so much for everybody running and hiding on Mars. Poetic Justice. LOL. We would just fuck up that planet too.

So I'm guessing if this thing hits mars with that kind of force it could what...Knock it off its orbit...Create lots of debris... What else.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35105254


It wouldn't knock it off its orbit, you'd be amazed how much inertia a planet like Mars has, but it's hard to overstate just how massive the force of the collision would be. The explosion would be several orders of magnitude greater than every single nuclear weapon on earth combined.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


i thought comets were ice and dust. wouldn't it just burn up in the atmosphere?
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momentum, kinetic energy

when an object that size hits, it doesn't matter if it's made of talcum powder. It's kinetic energy will be enormous when it hits.

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