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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32410921 02/25/2013 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | D saw them. Did you see the Elevator video or the video with him walking the stairwell? Very eerie... Yeah, idk what to make of any of these.... is there a facts only thread (or anything resembling one) for this....case? I've got a few questions, if anyone cares to help me out 1. Are we sure 'Elisa Lam' is this chick's real name? (This whole thing wouldn't be nearly as odd if it were not...) I don't have access to her real fb that would help confirm this and all that gets talked about is the disnfo acct created after she died... 2. Why did we get the one elevator video but were denied the original, any hallway vids, or more importantly, any of the data off her phone? 3. Where was she actually staying? Non msm proof? 4. Why was Interpol brought into this? Goes without saying we'll all by keeping an eye on what happens with the TB outbreak (if there really is one) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21651258 02/25/2013 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: StokesSki Graffiti: [link to matchbin-assets.s3.amazonaws.com] Supposed postcard thing to a friend: [link to i.imgur.com] Good find. Dont get the graffiti message, its odd! perfect obedient c*nt hērsum obedient Hérsum oð tó deáðe. — Obedient unto death. [link to en.wiktionary.org] so are you interpreting that from what? the graffiti? if so can you explain what your understanding is of each word? because i think im reading it differently from the other descriptions/translations in other threads Sorry, it's just what I got at the crime forum that shall not be mentioned. What other interpretation have you seen? |
| ANON User ID: 14774349 02/25/2013 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Regarding the vimeo account "The Cecil Secret Project" The guy in the videos goes by "Ashes Wednesday" The girl in the videos is in porn and uses the stage name "Sasha Knox" The girl in the bathtub is a model by the name of Rochelle Valeur. They were just shooting footage for a music video. I don't think the account has anything to do with what happened, but do what you will with this new information. |
| phoenixe User ID: 34782429 02/25/2013 05:12 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | D saw them. Did you see the Elevator video or the video with him walking the stairwell? Very eerie... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32410921 Yeah, idk what to make of any of these.... is there a facts only thread (or anything resembling one) for this....case? I've got a few questions, if anyone cares to help me out 1. Are we sure 'Elisa Lam' is this chick's real name? (This whole thing wouldn't be nearly as odd if it were not...) I don't have access to her real fb that would help confirm this and all that gets talked about is the disnfo acct created after she died... 2. Why did we get the one elevator video but were denied the original, any hallway vids, or more importantly, any of the data off her phone? 3. Where was she actually staying? Non msm proof? 4. Why was Interpol brought into this? Goes without saying we'll all by keeping an eye on what happens with the TB outbreak (if there really is one) nice, you ask the same questions i already did.. Last Edited by Doomina on 02/25/2013 05:14 PM |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21651258 02/25/2013 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see no relevance with the Vimeo videos (crying guy, fat chick). Also none to the cloaking technology or the laser that picks up certain molecules in the air (explosives, bacteria, etc). You guys can sure get carried away. OP, I would suggest you clean up your thread, too, and delete your homo troll. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22585439 02/25/2013 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Regarding the vimeo account "The Cecil Secret Project" Quoting: ANON 14774349 The guy in the videos goes by "Ashes Wednesday" The girl in the videos is in porn and uses the stage name "Sasha Knox" The girl in the bathtub is a model by the name of Rochelle Valeur. They were just shooting footage for a music video. I don't think the account has anything to do with what happened, but do what you will with this new information. EXCEPT...the guy in the videos is the OP "333" of this thread. Check out some of his early threads about occult and abuse as a child and multiple personality disorder he suffers from. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35163572 02/25/2013 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | D saw them. Did you see the Elevator video or the video with him walking the stairwell? Very eerie... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32410921 Yeah, idk what to make of any of these.... is there a facts only thread (or anything resembling one) for this....case? I've got a few questions, if anyone cares to help me out 1. Are we sure 'Elisa Lam' is this chick's real name? (This whole thing wouldn't be nearly as odd if it were not...) I don't have access to her real fb that would help confirm this and all that gets talked about is the disnfo acct created after she died... 2. Why did we get the one elevator video but were denied the original, any hallway vids, or more importantly, any of the data off her phone? 3. Where was she actually staying? Non msm proof? 4. Why was Interpol brought into this? Goes without saying we'll all by keeping an eye on what happens with the TB outbreak (if there really is one) nice, you ask the same questions i already did.. Great. Thanks for letting us know. Now go back to control trolling your own thread. |
| ///333\\\ (OP) User ID: 32919382 02/25/2013 05:33 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Regarding the vimeo account "The Cecil Secret Project" Quoting: ANON 14774349 The guy in the videos goes by "Ashes Wednesday" The girl in the videos is in porn and uses the stage name "Sasha Knox" The girl in the bathtub is a model by the name of Rochelle Valeur. They were just shooting footage for a music video. I don't think the account has anything to do with what happened, but do what you will with this new information. EXCEPT...the guy in the videos is the OP "333" of this thread. Check out some of his early threads about occult and abuse as a child and multiple personality disorder he suffers from. uh lmao no its not me. anyone with a brain can tell its not me. |
| ///333\\\ (OP) User ID: 32919382 02/25/2013 05:35 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Google searched CAX DARK water ""Later, as the first light crept across the countryside, he dozed in the arm chair, dreaming uneasily of white boats floating upon DARK WATER. Could they be the little boats he floats as a boy upon the CAX? Or were they the white boats 'that sailed LIKE SWANS ASLEEP' on the enchanted waters of Lough Corrib? And where was MAISIE? She should be with him. HAD SHE SLIPPED BENEATH THE BLACK AND SHIVERING WATER? Would he see her again? A little before five Nurse Porter woke him. Her red face GLOWED LIKE THE RISING SUN, broad and TRIUMPHANT. She held a WHITE BUNDLE which she displayed proudly to EDWARD. "Want to see your son?" she asked. "Six and a half pounds, and A PERFECT BEAUTY." pg 222 of the CAXley Chronicles o.O |
| Nine's User ID: 23438707 02/25/2013 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This didn't quote right. My answers to your post are bolded. D saw them. Did you see the Elevator video or the video with him walking the stairwell? Very eerie... Yeah, idk what to make of any of these.... is there a facts only thread (or anything resembling one) for this....case? I've got a few questions, if anyone cares to help me out 1. Are we sure 'Elisa Lam' is this chick's real name? (This whole thing wouldn't be nearly as odd if it were not...) I don't have access to her real fb that would help confirm this and all that gets talked about is the disnfo acct created after she died... A. There is a student by that name registered at a Canadian University. She was studying psychology and art approx. 11 months ago. Not enrolled this semester. 2. Why did we get the one elevator video but were denied the original, any hallway vids, or more importantly, any of the data off her phone? A. Maybe you have to look for it, or maybe it wasn't released. Data off the phone would be in police custody and it's very doubtful they would release that information. 3. Where was she actually staying? Non msm proof? How would you find anything other than MSM unless you hired a private detective or went yourself? 4. Why was Interpol brought into this? A. RCMP notified Interpol. Interpol then notified LAPD. The sleuthing site mentioned is like some threads here. Someone states an opinion, others build on it, and in their minds, it becomes fact. Goes without saying we'll all by keeping an eye on what happens with the TB outbreak (if there really is one) Last Edited by Nine's on 02/25/2013 05:41 PM |
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| blueflowers User ID: 22743812 02/25/2013 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry if this has already been mentioned - I have been reading some on here, some on other true crime boards... This is another creepy coincidence / life imitating art thing, so pardon the inanity of referencing Ryan Gosling, but there was the postcard she sent to a friend mentioning him, and someone on another board brought up this song his band, "Dead Man's Bones" has, called "Buried in Water". It starts off, "Like a lamb to his slaughter Buried in water..." [link to youtu.be] Image of postcard- [link to encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com (secure)] Grody. |
| ///333\\\ (OP) User ID: 32919382 02/25/2013 05:49 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry if this has already been mentioned - I have been reading some on here, some on other true crime boards... Quoting: blueflowers This is another creepy coincidence / life imitating art thing, so pardon the inanity of referencing Ryan Gosling, but there was the postcard she sent to a friend mentioning him, and someone on another board brought up this song his band, "Dead Man's Bones" has, called "Buried in Water". It starts off, "Like a lamb to his slaughter Buried in water..." [link to youtu.be] Image of postcard- [link to encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com (secure)] Grody. The song is VERY beautiful. I wonder if Elisa had a YouTube page. But yes, that is very creepy how appropriate the lyrics are to what happened. Thanks for sharing!! |
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| strikeforce User ID: 18308887 02/25/2013 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Keep your eyes on March 1st in the US and on Korea. Last Edited by strikeforce on 02/25/2013 05:54 PM DefenceToday.com [link to twitter.com (secure)] |
| Jinxy McDeath User ID: 1634496 02/25/2013 06:01 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i've followed the various threads on Elisa fairly closely but was not aware that there had been reports about the Hotel's water turning black! Thought it had just left a bad taste and that water pressure had been impaired.... Link to a site called The Inquisitr [link to www.inquisitr.com] The water turning black reminded me of a song I have known since its release in 1991. The song is 'Blackwater' by Rain Tree Crow (reunion track by the UK band formerly known as Japan). In reacquainting myself with the lyrics i was struck and saddened by how some of the lyrical passages tied in with some of the details we know of Elisa's plight.... Blackwater by Rain Tree Crow I hold you in A sea of silence On the borderline of truth Open violence I see no sign I see no place I've loved Depending on the signs To find the road Blackwater take me with you To the place that I have spoken Come lead me through the darkness To the light that I long to see again I walk with you But sleep beside her The summer came and went It passes us over I see her cry I see the face I have loved Depending on the blind To find the road Blackwater take me with you To the place that I have spoken Come lead me through the morning For the land that I long to see again (my reading sees it as a somewhat claustrophobic perspective....'blindness' alluding to her poor eyesight, 'Open Violence' can be the public way the story has unfolded, 'dependence on signs to find the road' reminds me of her postcard desiring to go on a Ryan Gosling/Drive pilgrimage) Link to blog highlighting L.A. film locations for "Drive" [link to latimesblogs.latimes.com] Her odd hand gesturing - at times it seems she's feeling out for something invisible to her but most definitely present to her... (at 1:54 mark) quite possibly coincidental - but is this the same Richard Schmelter that was found to be her lone FB friend? Because YouTube has this channel for a Richard Schmelter who is living in SK. Here he is with his own brand of hand gestures... in yet another one of his vids -- it's just odd how the fellows stand outside a door in a hallway to overwhelm their buddy...(i believe the guy on the right-lifting his goggles is Richard) |
| strikeforce User ID: 18308887 02/25/2013 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please be aware that the Cecil Hotel was operated by the CIA and Military psy-ops during the cold war. DefenceToday.com [link to twitter.com (secure)] |
| Nine's User ID: 23438707 02/25/2013 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An observation about the dogs searching the roof: Quoting: my 2 cents Yes, they missed her scent, but it had been 2 whole weeks since she was there. What I'm saying is the dogs missing her scent after that amount of time does nor prove she didn't walk on the roof. If they'd missed it the day after she was there then it might prove something, but not after two weeks. The hound aren't infallible. No they aren't and they were probably tracking dogs. They needed a cadaver dog. A tracking dog is looking for the scent of a living person or crushed vegetation. If they find a dead person, it's because they found it while searching for a living person. A cadaver dog specializes in a dead body and there's an excellent chance that dog would have found her. Don't mean to be abrupt. Running late and on my way out. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35141854 02/25/2013 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An observation about the dogs searching the roof: Quoting: my 2 cents Yes, they missed her scent, but it had been 2 whole weeks since she was there. What I'm saying is the dogs missing her scent after that amount of time does nor prove she didn't walk on the roof. If they'd missed it the day after she was there then it might prove something, but not after two weeks. The hound aren't infallible. No they aren't and they were probably tracking dogs. They needed a cadaver dog. A tracking dog is looking for the scent of a living person or crushed vegetation. If they find a dead person, it's because they found it while searching for a living person. A cadaver dog specializes in a dead body and there's an excellent chance that dog would have found her. Don't mean to be abrupt. Running late and on my way out. They did not wait two weeks to search the roof with dogs. That was done within the first couple of days. They would have picked up on her scent had she walked on the roof. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35157816 02/25/2013 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dark water credits: Directed by Walter Salles Produced by Doug Davison .... producer Kerry Foster .... associate producer Ashley Kramer .... executive producer Roy Lee .... producer Bill Mechanic .... producer Todd Y. Murata .... production executive Diana Pokorny .... co-producer One of them are involved... |
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| ///333\\\ (OP) User ID: 25335913 02/25/2013 10:07 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Marbas - AKA: Barbas, Marabas Quoting: Xarian MO: cures and inflicts diseases, knows how to transform the shape of the human body Rank: Great Duke - 36 legions (possibly outdated info) Seriously bad Juju. Fascinating! I know and trust that I, as well as YOU and MANY of the Sons and Daughters of the MOST INEFFABLE AND ILLIMITABLE LIGHT have been granted Power and Authority over ALL the Powers and Principalities of wickedness that have their claws and talons embedded so deep in this SYSTEM. Some interesting things here though.. It's mentioned that MARBAS appears as a GREAT/GIANT CAT Someone had brought up this character named Richard Schmelter who appeared as Elisa Lam's ONLY facebook friend on a page made AFTER she was already found dead. This picture stuck out the first time I looked at it and I'm probably looking way too into this but.. [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] this was also his 'cover' photo for a while.. [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] This doesn't bode well with me. What other information can you share about how MARBAS ties into this whole thing? |
| Nine's User ID: 23438707 02/25/2013 10:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An observation about the dogs searching the roof: Quoting: my 2 cents Yes, they missed her scent, but it had been 2 whole weeks since she was there. What I'm saying is the dogs missing her scent after that amount of time does nor prove she didn't walk on the roof. If they'd missed it the day after she was there then it might prove something, but not after two weeks. The hound aren't infallible. No they aren't and they were probably tracking dogs. They needed a cadaver dog. A tracking dog is looking for the scent of a living person or crushed vegetation. If they find a dead person, it's because they found it while searching for a living person. A cadaver dog specializes in a dead body and there's an excellent chance that dog would have found her. Don't mean to be abrupt. Running late and on my way out. They did not wait two weeks to search the roof with dogs. That was done within the first couple of days. They would have picked up on her scent had she walked on the roof. They wouldn't have necessarily picked up the scent even if she'd walked. If they would, they'd have picked it up even if she was carried. A human body sheds skin cells. We can't see them or smell them. A dog can. It was a perfect area to avoid detection. Higher than a dogs scent range, hot, dry, no grass or vegetation, and hard surface in what appears to be a sealed tank. Add direct sunlight and a little wind, no, they wouldn't have necessarily picked up the scent even if she walked there. A cadaver dog would have been the best bet and in that location and environment, it wouldn't have been as easy as it seems, even for him. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35141854 02/25/2013 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An observation about the dogs searching the roof: Quoting: my 2 cents Yes, they missed her scent, but it had been 2 whole weeks since she was there. What I'm saying is the dogs missing her scent after that amount of time does nor prove she didn't walk on the roof. If they'd missed it the day after she was there then it might prove something, but not after two weeks. The hound aren't infallible. No they aren't and they were probably tracking dogs. They needed a cadaver dog. A tracking dog is looking for the scent of a living person or crushed vegetation. If they find a dead person, it's because they found it while searching for a living person. A cadaver dog specializes in a dead body and there's an excellent chance that dog would have found her. Don't mean to be abrupt. Running late and on my way out. They did not wait two weeks to search the roof with dogs. That was done within the first couple of days. They would have picked up on her scent had she walked on the roof. They wouldn't have necessarily picked up the scent even if she'd walked. If they would, they'd have picked it up even if she was carried. A human body sheds skin cells. We can't see them or smell them. A dog can. It was a perfect area to avoid detection. Higher than a dogs scent range, hot, dry, no grass or vegetation, and hard surface in what appears to be a sealed tank. Add direct sunlight and a little wind, no, they wouldn't have necessarily picked up the scent even if she walked there. A cadaver dog would have been the best bet and in that location and environment, it wouldn't have been as easy as it seems, even for him. I'm very familiar with the capabilities of both scent dogs and cadaver dogs. Also the trails we leave behind us. They should have been able to detect her scent. Especially if any of what people are theorizing took place as far what she may have been doing up on the roof . The only thing I'm not 100% certain of is if both cadaver and scent dogs were used. I was under the impression both were used based on several articles I read on the search. That was very early in the search. Prior to her body being found. There is the possibility her body was not there at the time . She had never been up on the roof walking around and her body was placed there after the roof was searched. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5141990 02/25/2013 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I find disturbing in the elevator video are the shadows and play of light around her. In the hallway as well for that matter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5141990 Forgot to post the nutty invisibility cloak video I found. [link to www.youtube.com] |
| Nine's User ID: 23438707 02/25/2013 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Nine's No they aren't and they were probably tracking dogs. They needed a cadaver dog. A tracking dog is looking for the scent of a living person or crushed vegetation. If they find a dead person, it's because they found it while searching for a living person. A cadaver dog specializes in a dead body and there's an excellent chance that dog would have found her. Don't mean to be abrupt. Running late and on my way out. They did not wait two weeks to search the roof with dogs. That was done within the first couple of days. They would have picked up on her scent had she walked on the roof. They wouldn't have necessarily picked up the scent even if she'd walked. If they would, they'd have picked it up even if she was carried. A human body sheds skin cells. We can't see them or smell them. A dog can. It was a perfect area to avoid detection. Higher than a dogs scent range, hot, dry, no grass or vegetation, and hard surface in what appears to be a sealed tank. Add direct sunlight and a little wind, no, they wouldn't have necessarily picked up the scent even if she walked there. A cadaver dog would have been the best bet and in that location and environment, it wouldn't have been as easy as it seems, even for him. I'm very familiar with the capabilities of both scent dogs and cadaver dogs. Also the trails we leave behind us. They should have been able to detect her scent. Especially if any of what people are theorizing took place as far what she may have been doing up on the roof . The only thing I'm not 100% certain of is if both cadaver and scent dogs were used. I was under the impression both were used based on several articles I read on the search. That was very early in the search. Prior to her body being found. There is the possibility her body was not there at the time . She had never been up on the roof walking around and her body was placed there after the roof was searched. Awesome. You know tracking or trailing scent dogs? Or both? You think that area wouldn't have been a problem for them? Have any idea where they started the dog? Her room, stairs, fire escape, roof? Thanks for sharing. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30930447 02/25/2013 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Graffiti: [link to matchbin-assets.s3.amazonaws.com] Supposed postcard thing to a friend: [link to i.imgur.com] Good find. Dont get the graffiti message, its odd! perfect obedient c*nt hērsum obedient Hérsum oð tó deáðe. — Obedient unto death. [link to en.wiktionary.org] I used google translator to detect the language of the graffiti by the tanks Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35103788 [link to matchbin-assets.s3.amazonaws.com] fecto: spanish for defect her: english for her cunt: english suma: spanish for sum unscrambled: sum her cunt defect (summa-- to sum?) sum (up) her cunt defect(s)? ok well another thread there were different meanings for'suma' also when i look at he graffiti, i see a symbol a line with 3 marks over the top-theres also another mark at the bottom-both are like ornamention. the horizontal line in the top ornamentation i believe people are seeing as the top of the T. If it is the ornamentation(maybe resembling a crude crown??) that would manke the first word 'Fecio' not Fec To. Hmmm... "Fecio Ara" equates to maiden or VIRGIN in the Romanian language per [link to translation.sensagent.com] Could the symbol above "Fecio" indicate aura (a shorthand way of phonetically saying "ara")? If so, then you have: Fecio Ara Hersum 2 VIRGIN CUNT OBEDIENT or VIRGIN CUNT DEVOUT or VIRGIN CUNT PIOUS Definition of hersum: [link to en.wiktionary.org] I've read through some of the social media she has available online and I could be wrong, but I don't recall reading anything of hers that was of a sexual nature. Most of her postings regarding intimacy or love reveals nothing to indicate that she was sexually active. |