In Memory and Honor of Elisa Lam - A Quest For Truth & Justice

Bleeep. Time's up. If you don't answer, I'm left thinking you're trying to find the answer.

I am very familiar. I am not a professional though. i will however say this , the area and conditions were ideal in many ways. . For instance it was not a highly trafficked area. Much easier on the dogs. They should have picked up on her scent had she been up there. If you've seen photos of the roof you would notice that it would take some maneuvering to get up to the tanks which would leave more of her scent there. I beleive they thoroughly searched the hotel with the dogs, I'm not sure what their start point was though.

Bleeep. Lol . Patience is a virtue. I don't stay glued to threads I browse around. Check back where I've posted. Give people a chance to roll back around.

Mmm. Your response to the question "you know tracking or trailing scent dogs" should have been, "tracking and trailing dogs aren't scent dogs. But that's ok. Just checking. It's a hard answer to find if you haven't worked them.

Up that high, sun shining down, and you probably know what direct sunlight does to scent, as well as wind, time, and hard surface.

A "scent" dog would have been looking for a "cone" of scent that follows out behind a person, not skin cells. The cone which would have been long gone at that height.

The location of the body looked like it was in an enclosed tank....above the line of the dogs scent. The only thing they'd have had was after the gasses started seeping and they would have gone to the top and away on the wind, above the scent of the dog.

Scent dogs also aren't looking for a particular scent, just human, so any people up there would have caused a false alarm. Same with inside the hotel.

You probably already know that though.

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree on the difficulty of having any degree of accuracy at that location.

I'm old and on borrowed time. Be quick. 8)

[link to www.latimes.com]

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Los Angeles police investigators searched the roof of the Cecil with the aid of dogs when Lam was reported missing about three weeks ago. Lopez said he didn't know if the tanks were examined.

"We did a very thorough search of the hotel," he said. "But we didn't search every room; we could only do that if we had probable cause" that a crime had been committed.

Wow. They must not have thought any crime had been committed. They evacuated the rooms anyway to drain the water and check things out. Just wow.

On the graffiti - looks to me we can't see all the letters, the top word seems to have more letters to the left (you can see a bit of white paint on the curve)

Maybe it says Infecto?

I never responded to that question ;

I noticed.

I'll try to pick up the pace. You seem to be doing quite well though, not sure I'm willing to buy that old and on borrowed time line. 8)

Oh Yay. You win. LOL.

You mentioned, "Especially if any of what people are theorizing took place as far what she may have been doing up on the roof ." I missed that. What are they thinking she was doing up there?

The tank may have been above the scent line, her body had to have been below that at some point to even wind up in the tank. From what I understand she was found in the tank nude.
The area and conditions were problematic in some ways ideal in others. Agree to disagree :)

An assortment of things . Take your pick ...
Using the tank as an isolation chamber.
Going for a swim.
Partying by herself or with others.
Going up there to check out the view of L.A
Playing out a strange online game called left4dead as if it were actually happening in reality.

There are a few more but those are the major ones.

Hey , you're wa py faster than me:)

It's a deal.

Don't even want to think about that tank. Sincerely hope she was dead when she went in. The tank was 10 ft. high. 2/3 full. Water would have only been approx. a foot over her head. Can you imagine treading water, floating, trying to stay above water when it was only a foot above you? Exhaustion, for how long? Shudder. I hope she was dead beforehand.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. I hope so too.

Thanks. Odd thing about it is that none of them make sense, yet all of them do. Except going in by choice. Seems it would cross your mind that it could be a tank of bleach, chemicals, or whatever, and the escape choices would be limited. Not to even mention being out in the open that high up with only cement below you. Creeps me out to think about it.

That was an awesome video. Except the fun spoilers. Guess you noticed all the people on roof tops. Were they there the same time Elisa was staying there?

Each thing posted brings up more questions. Interesting. Thanks for posting it.

Elisa Lam Foul Play Not Determined

The Los Angeles Police Department has had to deny recent rumours that foul play has been ruled out in the death of Vancouver student Elisa Lam.

On Monday, some media in Vancouver reported that police investigators don't suspect foul play in Lam's death.

However, Alex Martinez, a LAPD public information officer, denied those reports to The Vancouver Sun.
[link to www.huffingtonpost.ca]

In total agreement again. I do not see going into that tank by choice as a viable possibility. As you said just the thoughts that would go through your mind upon considering it...the difficulty in getting back out, what is actually in the tank (chemicals) It seems to me that just getting in the tank to begin with would be difficult ,once you realized that you would be bound to back out even if you had considered it for a moment. They couldn't get her out of there without cutting the tank open. Creeps me put too.

Glad you mentioned that about the difficulty getting in. The tank looks sealed with some type of lid on top in the middle. You couldn't climb up there; you'd have to jump from that wall the way it looks. If you jumped and missed, there's a good chance of being seriously hurt. If you tossed a body and it slid down, well, there ya go. Looks like a real hard thing to get into without a ladder. No way of getting out.

Look at these pictures. More clear than some of them. The lid isn't center like I thought, and is much smaller than it looks on the other pictures. Look how hard it would be to get into one:

[link to www.chinasmack.com]

METH! Why doesn't everyone see the real culprit. This demon drug is doing this and it will come after your kids too. Wake up.

Supposedly ecstacy and pcp makes some people act like she did in the elevator. I've heard about ecstacy being dropped in drinks and pcp draws people to water. Thing is, she's not known to drink, do drugs or smoke. If it's drugs, seems more likely, based on her past, that she took them without knowing. Guess nothing can be ruled out.

What i said before isn't a Certainty 333
More like a "most possible suspect"

This was no ordinary run of the mill Demon, no bottom feeder could have perpetrated this defilement.

The name came up in another unrelated thread, quite a strange quirky thing that let nowhere just garble and usual things.. to the untrained eye it was junk.. nonsense, and directed into another rabbithole that will lead nowhere.

But, the *word* was marbas

Based on the MO, and the severity of the breach, this rings too loud to ignore.

And then there's the *message* with the mark, see the 3 marks above the words, that's no crown. That's a territory marker, a simple downstroke meaning, mine, i own this.

A peed a little when i saw that message, I don't rattle easy (as you could imagine..)

So now i guess some of you super-sleuths must be thinking... im the killer... and that's a ROTFL and a LOL all at the same time.. i don't even have a passport. In the light of some of the accusations above... i just needed to clear that up..

Men were likey involved, Man is a tool for Satan, and it's all wi-fi now.. no wires (yay for messing with our brainwaves!!) but those men are ghosts.. if you ever do find your *killer* it'll be some poor drugged up soul who's zombied enough to go with it... welcome to the new word.

Before i go, I pose a question, "How does MK-Ultra work, and why" keep in mind that's just a military codename for something that's been around long before us.. for those of you making that connection.. look into that a bit, and then what i say might not seem so whacky.

You'll also see the net/World in a brand new Light. careful with that though.. don't wanna end up like some of our beloved members...

Exactly. One of the many reasons that lead me to believe she was killed elsewhere and then placed in the tank. She was also found face up and wedged in the tank.

Thanks. Those are great. Really give you a good idea of how hard it would be to get in there.

Yooooooo!!!!!!

Get a load of this video guys!!!!!!!!!

IS.....THIS.....LEGIT?!?!?

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