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We may be witnessing the invocation of the Apocalypse™

The 'Revealing' (aka "apocalypse") has begun.....?

Time will tell.......soon.
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Chickens coming home to roost, everywhere.

I love coming here for the weirdos and nutters along with the conditioned and naive. For many years too. Guilty (sometimes) of trolling and baiting for fun. However!!!

Since late December, I have been astounded at the number of revelations and the sheer hypocricy being exposed all over the world, covering many central themes dear to GLP.

This time it is different. Instead of GLP being proactive and predictive, it has become reactive (shilling) and revelatory (told ya'll so).

This is new ground, a shift in the paradigm. What has been speculated is unfolding, the veil is slipping and the public being exposed to it like never before through a series of exposes.

Subtle but growing. There is a bye election in Eastleigh, in the UK. It is close. A scandal has broken out regarding the unappropriate behaviour of one of the managers linked to one of the parties.

Normally people would have taken sides. This time, people are sitting, blinking in the light. It has gone from 'Oh, what a coincidence' to 'yeah, right!'

Same as this escalating scandal. People are joining the dots everywhere so now I'm of the opinion that there are 'lightworkers'..okay, okay.. There is an organised body of like minded people working behind the scenes bringing the 'matrix' down.

Two things concern me. Backlash from the conspirators and destabilisation of society as the truth cascades forth from the dark corners.

Either way, TEOTWAWKI is coming. And it all seems to have escalated from late Dec 2012. Cue Twighlight Zone theme.. Maybe the Mayans got it right?
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wow! this post should have it's own thread! Bravo! rockon
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Agreed! What do you say, AC?

Case in point:

Thread: Father of US Slavery Was a BLACK Man!

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Britain's highest Catholic cleric, Keith Cardinal O'Brien, has been accused of 'inappropriate' behavior with fellow priests

O'Brien, head of the Catholic Church in Scotland, is accused of misconduct with priests dating back to the 1980s, reported British newspaper The Observer.



Read more: [link to www.nydailynews.com]
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I suppose the reports of that "secret" vatican report may have been true, and the rats are jumping off the burning ship. What a tangled web we weave...
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No, I am sure O'Brien was thrown off the ship. And I am not sure that he was a rat.

Maybe he was a strong candidate to win the conclave and Benedict wanted to prevent that.

With all the fancy language and stuff now, all that matters is winning the conclave.

I suspect Benedict is resigning now, while he still has most of his health. so he is in a position to influence the result of the conclave. This is an example. He made sure O'Brien would not be in the conclave and almost certainly could not win it.
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Britain's highest Catholic cleric, Keith Cardinal O'Brien, has been accused of 'inappropriate' behavior with fellow priests

O'Brien, head of the Catholic Church in Scotland, is accused of misconduct with priests dating back to the 1980s, reported British newspaper The Observer.



Read more: [link to www.nydailynews.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


I suppose the reports of that "secret" vatican report may have been true, and the rats are jumping off the burning ship. What a tangled web we weave...
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No, I am sure O'Brien was thrown off the ship. And I am not sure that he was a rat.

Maybe he was a strong candidate to win the conclave and Benedict wanted to prevent that.

With all the fancy language and stuff now, all that matters is winning the conclave.

I suspect Benedict is resigning now, while he still has most of his health. so he is in a position to influence the result of the conclave. This is an example. He made sure O'Brien would not be in the conclave and almost certainly could not win it.
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That's an interesting assessment. Perhaps Benedict is feeling some remorse and guilt over stepping down, and wants to try his best at cleaning house before he does so. Of course, he could have done this before he decided to step down - there was plenty of time and he was the pope, the only question was how tightly sealed these 'secrets' of the Vatican corruption were.
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Also, by allowing the conclave to start less than 15 days after he resigns, he gives less time for things to get out of his hands after he gives up formal power.
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Re: BREAKING - VATICAN IN CRISIS: Just Days before Electing New Pope, Britian's Cardinal O'Brien Resigns! Benedict Changes Conclave Rules
Britain's highest Catholic cleric, Keith Cardinal O'Brien, has been accused of 'inappropriate' behavior with fellow priests

O'Brien, head of the Catholic Church in Scotland, is accused of misconduct with priests dating back to the 1980s, reported British newspaper The Observer.



Read more: [link to www.nydailynews.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


I suppose the reports of that "secret" vatican report may have been true, and the rats are jumping off the burning ship. What a tangled web we weave...
 Quoting: Rising Son


No, I am sure O'Brien was thrown off the ship. And I am not sure that he was a rat.

Maybe he was a strong candidate to win the conclave and Benedict wanted to prevent that.

With all the fancy language and stuff now, all that matters is winning the conclave.

I suspect Benedict is resigning now, while he still has most of his health. so he is in a position to influence the result of the conclave. This is an example. He made sure O'Brien would not be in the conclave and almost certainly could not win it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33389306


That's an interesting assessment. Perhaps Benedict is feeling some remorse and guilt over stepping down, and wants to try his best at cleaning house before he does so. Of course, he could have done this before he decided to step down - there was plenty of time and he was the pope, the only question was how tightly sealed these 'secrets' of the Vatican corruption were.
 Quoting: Rising Son


I have similar feelings about his resignation, before he's ever really done any serious housecleaning. He could have fired 10 cardinals, 100 bishops and 1000 priests to clean things up while he is Pope. Then he could have resigned and left a renewed ship for the next man.

Instead he fires almost nobody. O'Brien is definitely not the worst or only offender, so firing him does not count as "housecleaning". He chooses instead just to steer the selection of his successor. I will be watching for more evidence of such steering.

I just think he didn't want O'Brien or O'Brien's faction to win the conclave.
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You are Peter and upon this Rck I shall build my Church. Christs very own words

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Yes he said it... Upon this rock ... He was talking about this earth not a church... The church is each individual... Not a building... Just as the Pope said I will still work for her...

Sophia... The Queen of Darkness...
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Inanna/Ishtar/Isis is the backbone of their ritual systems at the occult level.

She has gone by many namess...
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Just in- CNN's Hada Messia in Rome reports-Vatican hopes to clarify next week what Pope Benedict XVI’s title will be after his resignation,
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Thread: The Vacant Seat Number 666 in the European Parliament SEAT OF THE ANTICHRIST!! :x
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You guys still dont get it. As long as there is ONE SINGLE CATHOLIC with a Rosary in his or her hands the Church will be alive.
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yes they are more perverted than the gates of hell , so its evident they overran them ....

church became the gates of hell itself ...
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We have a prophecy from Christ. Its clear and specific. NOT EVEN THE GATES OF HELL WILL PREVAIL AGAINST IT:

If the Church was evil the world would love the church. The fact that the world rallies against us proves to me we are The Church..His Church

Like He said to His disciples, the world would hate them because they are not of the world, their nature is not of the world, so with Our Church.
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Jesus also ask his people to come out of the Church because it has become an evil Church.
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They should be investigated down to the very lay detail! All the way up to and down from Vatican City. A child molester is a child molester no matter what costume he wears.
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It is so ironic how people says just because you are a homo does not mean you are a child molester but if you are the first as a priest you are automatically the second.
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All in accordance with mind control, my dear.
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Let's not forget the American cardinals under severe pressure by the laity to recuse themselves from the papal election. I believe there are 3. The conclave is collapsing - I will bet there will be more to come.

I predict that Ratzinger will appoint his successor in an unprecedented move.
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They should be investigated down to the very lay detail! All the way up to and down from Vatican City. A child molester is a child molester no matter what costume he wears.
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It is so ironic how people says just because you are a homo does not mean you are a child molester but if you are the first as a priest you are automatically the second.
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Agreed. I am working toward entering the seminary for priesthood in the next few years and I have zero interest in either pedophilia *or* homosexuality. It really bothers me that people automatically assume priest = pedophile.
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You are Peter and upon this Rck I shall build my Church. Christs very own words

cheer

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Yes he said it... Upon this rock ... He was talking about this earth not a church... The church is each individual... Not a building... Just as the Pope said I will still work for her...

Sophia... The Queen of Darkness...
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And NO HE WASNT He was referring to the Church. The Vatican stands on the hill where Peter was crucified. Peter the rock became the foundation of the Vatican.
Upon this rock I shall build my church.
Christ was always very clear for those that wanted to hear and see.
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He was supposed to be buried there but crucified where the Tempietto is.

How do you know he went to Rome?
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They should be investigated down to the very lay detail! All the way up to and down from Vatican City. A child molester is a child molester no matter what costume he wears.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7448237


It is so ironic how people says just because you are a homo does not mean you are a child molester but if you are the first as a priest you are automatically the second.
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Agreed. I am working toward entering the seminary for priesthood in the next few years and I have zero interest in either pedophilia *or* homosexuality. It really bothers me that people automatically assume priest = pedophile.
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Don't take it personally, but a number of priests have been shown to be pedophiles. Surely others are, who have not been caught. And if there's even a small chance that MY priest is a pedophile, do you think I should bring my children to that institution?

Just wondering, what are your thoughts on joining an organization about which you know these things. Why would your experience be different?
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Here ...

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They should be investigated down to the very lay detail! All the way up to and down from Vatican City. A child molester is a child molester no matter what costume he wears.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7448237


It is so ironic how people says just because you are a homo does not mean you are a child molester but if you are the first as a priest you are automatically the second.
 Quoting: KimmieAnnaJones


Agreed. I am working toward entering the seminary for priesthood in the next few years and I have zero interest in either pedophilia *or* homosexuality. It really bothers me that people automatically assume priest = pedophile.
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hf


hopefully by the time you become a priest, more of the truth will have come out, instead of the propaganda, I'll be praying for you, God Bless.

(the truth that the vast majority of priests are not pedophiles or homosexually inappropriate)

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Homsexuals need to be cleasned out of the Church. Period.
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They should be investigated down to the very lay detail! All the way up to and down from Vatican City. A child molester is a child molester no matter what costume he wears.
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It is so ironic how people says just because you are a homo does not mean you are a child molester but if you are the first as a priest you are automatically the second.
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Agreed. I am working toward entering the seminary for priesthood in the next few years and I have zero interest in either pedophilia *or* homosexuality. It really bothers me that people automatically assume priest = pedophile.
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Kudos to you for choosing to enter the church as a priest, despite the negative attention it has received. I hope you can change the culture of corruption, deceit, and immorality that has plagued the church for so long. One man can make a difference, do not be disheartened :-)
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Agreed, not to derail the thread, but I think we're going to see similar revelations at the top of the U.S. government soon, and likely with respect to other world leaders as well. The Catholic church stuff is the tip of a rapidly melting iceberg that may flood the earth with its filth!
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yes! Of course there will be some filth brought out, but evil coming into the light (reluctantly), is good for us, bad for "Them". Go us!!!
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Just in- CNN's Hada Messia in Rome reports-Vatican hopes to clarify next week what Pope Benedict XVI’s title will be after his resignation,
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so, there are 115 cardinals now?

When that other one said he wouldn't be attending I thought 116 would be an interesting number, mirroring 911.

Let's see how many cardinals will be left until the conclave tounge
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Homsexuals need to be cleasned out of the Church. Period.
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Pedophiles and money launderers as well.
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Don't take it personally, but a number of priests have been shown to be pedophiles. Surely others are, who have not been caught. And if there's even a small chance that MY priest is a pedophile, do you think I should bring my children to that institution?

Just wondering, what are your thoughts on joining an organization about which you know these things. Why would your experience be different?
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Simple: I'm not a pedophile. Why would potentially being around some cause me to become one? That's like saying being around homosexuals makes you gay.
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It sounds like O'Brien was gay and propositioning younger Priests.

Cougar Priest.
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I think the Vicar who baptized both my kids was gay.

He had a lovely sonorious voice.
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hf


hopefully by the time you become a priest, more of the truth will have come out, instead of the propaganda, I'll be praying for you, God Bless.

(the truth that the vast majority of priests are not pedophiles or homosexually inappropriate)
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Thank you, and thank you for your prayers too. I dislike that all Catholic clergy are smeared because of the sexual abuse scandal. Most priests are good, upstanding men -- I heard a figure about a decade ago that the number of priests who were found guilty of sexual misconduct stood at 4%. That means 96% of priests are good people.

A lot of teachers get nailed for sexual stuff, yet all of them aren't smeared the same way. Why not? I don't know why people seem opposed to priests...probably because of the latent anti-Catholicism that pervades our society.
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Britain's highest Catholic cleric, Keith Cardinal O'Brien, has been accused of 'inappropriate' behavior with fellow priests

O'Brien, head of the Catholic Church in Scotland, is accused of misconduct with priests dating back to the 1980s, reported British newspaper The Observer.



Read more: [link to www.nydailynews.com]
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The church has quite evidently lost the Solemn Light!

They have failed to do the one thing which is important and that is keeping "God" in everything we do!

It's really very simple and they over think all of it!

GOD IS FIRST, PERIOD!
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Don't take it personally, but a number of priests have been shown to be pedophiles. Surely others are, who have not been caught. And if there's even a small chance that MY priest is a pedophile, do you think I should bring my children to that institution?

Just wondering, what are your thoughts on joining an organization about which you know these things. Why would your experience be different?
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Simple: I'm not a pedophile. Why would potentially being around some cause me to become one? That's like saying being around homosexuals makes you gay.
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I am sure you can keep it under control. But for some people, an entire adult life with no girlfriends can probably create some big temptations.

People do turn gay in prison, but go straight again when released and the opposite sex is available. In RCC you're there for life.

I just think the vow of chastity creates a situation with many weird tendencies, and it's been proven to produce both homosexuality and pedophilia.
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Kudos to you for choosing to enter the church as a priest, despite the negative attention it has received. I hope you can change the culture of corruption, deceit, and immorality that has plagued the church for so long. One man can make a difference, do not be disheartened :-)
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Thank you. I will do whatever God calls me to do -- I feel primarily called to address some of the liberalism that has crept into the Church after Vatican II, and specifically to preach on the importance of confession. Only 6% of practicing Catholics go to confession, and that is a statistic that really concerns me.
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