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BREAKING - VATICAN IN CRISIS: Just Days before Electing New Pope, Britian's Cardinal O'Brien Resigns! Benedict Changes Conclave Rules

 
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Pope John Paul II Webcam

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Is it about time for the guys to come and sit down there?
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Not sure
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I find it extremly bizzare that they have a web cam fixated on John Paull II's tomb.
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Yes, I thought the same...why are they doing that? I mean...any cam on tombs of other popes?
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Web cam at JP II's tomb just went black

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Strange days when we are watching a dead popes coffin online
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<rant>

Y'all have got to be kidding me?

What the fuck is this crap about John Paul II coming back from the dead? Bullshit! Utter and complete SHITE!

Even if I believed in such nonsense as a power equal to God I wouldn't believe this.... filth! Demonic power being focused and trapped in a geometric shape? Are you serious? Give me a fucking break! Like the Divine is that ... feeble! I mean... really? REALLY? How can people give so much power to the evil they claim to deny and be against? Really?

gaah

I hate religion. Abhor it. I think it's evil to its very core. Just another political system for a few to control the many. It has very little to do with the spiritual man and everything to do with the self. Yuck. Just... yuck!

But there was one person... ONE... who actually made me stop and think for a second about who Christ really was. What he would have done. How he would have spoke to and received people's of different faith, cultures, moralities, and so on. And that one person was Pope John Paul II. I don't care if he was the shoe shine boy. The fact is that his words, his books (yes... he had books published, I have many of them) and his actions really spoke to me about how we should all treat each other. He didn't ramble on about the devil and other dumbass bullshit. He led by example like Christ did. He loved, he scolded, he admonished, but he never hated!

I can not believe that any one, any where, for any reason would or could believe that this man is an anti-christ. WTF?

Gah.

You religious people piss me off. You like to ride the waves when they are rolling in, but you will condemn the entire ocean when they aren't. This man did nothing to warrant such hate.

Wow. I feel so hurt and let down AGAIN by the community that claims to follow the Christ.

Wow. Just fucking WOW!

</rant>
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You've been brainwashed. You'll accept the Anti-christ because you have no discernment. You have no clue. You are extremely self-righteous.
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The Vatican is more entertaining than the Church of England.

It is theatre.
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Britain has been ruled by heathens since the 16th century except for a short period with King James and Mary Queen of Scots. inquisitiopope
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Wasn't Mary Queen of Scots locked in a tower and beheaded??
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Not in a tower..at Fotheringhay Castle which later was demilished to avoid it being a shrine to British Catholics
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They beheaded her with a blunt instrument and it took several strikes. Not happy with that they then cut her body to pieces.
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I never heard they cut her into pieces;

terrible.
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They should be investigated down to the very lay detail! All the way up to and down from Vatican City. A child molester is a child molester no matter what costume he wears.
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It is so ironic how people says just because you are a homo does not mean you are a child molester but if you are the first as a priest you are automatically the second.
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Agreed. I am working toward entering the seminary for priesthood in the next few years and I have zero interest in either pedophilia *or* homosexuality. It really bothers me that people automatically assume priest = pedophile.
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Don't take it personally, but a number of priests have been shown to be pedophiles. Surely others are, who have not been caught. And if there's even a small chance that MY priest is a pedophile, do you think I should bring my children to that institution?

Just wondering, what are your thoughts on joining an organization about which you know these things. Why would your experience be different?
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How about pedophiles in "sports." Do you let your kids play "sports?"
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Ratzinger has pedo cases building against him, from what I hear. Now all Napoleon just needs to crown himself. And that is how France kicked them Catholics out of their country.
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I'm a little dull on French history.

How and when did Frnace kick out the Catholics? It was the King of France who cooperated with the Church to take down Molay and his Knights back in the 14th century. So what happened?
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It's all part of the "script".

What else is in the planned script?

Btw, when is the conclave going to start...do we have a date?
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Why are they even waiting. They could vote now and have a new man in on Friday.
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That waiting time would have been for mourning.

He's not dead.
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thank GOD saved the QUEEN

uk
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Still going strong. Seen them all out.

People coming here and calling us crazy .. it's called sense.
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Wasn't Mary Queen of Scots locked in a tower and beheaded??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35036694


Not in a tower..at Fotheringhay Castle which later was demilished to avoid it being a shrine to British Catholics
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35145449


They beheaded her with a blunt instrument and it took several strikes. Not happy with that they then cut her body to pieces.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35145449

I never heard they cut her into pieces;

terrible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32538141


Yes she was hacked to pieces and her heart cut out.
Her ladies in waiting were loyal to her till the end, they were called the three Maries. History has it that her pet dog that always followed her refused to leave her and hid under her skirts while she was being executed. He was later handed over to her ladies in waiting covered in her blood and died shortly after refusing to eat.
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I like coming here for my news.

It's normal life here.

It would take a lot to shock.
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She embroided a cloth which she managed to finish before her execution, on it she embroided the words
"the end is the beginning"
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Centuries ago.

Maybe the Inquisition was going on at the same time.
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She killed plenty.

Wasn't she called Bloody Mary?
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Each sect beheaded the other.
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She killed plenty.

Wasn't she called Bloody Mary?
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That was Mary Tudor daughter of King Henry VIII

Mary Queen of Scots was the wife of the French King that died of a tooth infection, then went to Scotland as Queen and married Lord Darnley.
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She killed plenty.

Wasn't she called Bloody Mary?
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That was Mary Tudor daughter of King Henry VIII

Mary Queen of Scots was the wife of the French King that died of a tooth/ear infection, then went to Scotland as Queen and married Lord Darnley.
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Even Italy doesn't live under Catholic rule.

They like to ... bunga.
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She killed plenty.

Wasn't she called Bloody Mary?
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That was Mary Tudor daughter of King Henry VIII

Mary Queen of Scots was the wife of the French King that died of a tooth infection, then went to Scotland as Queen and married Lord Darnley.
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Mary Queen of scots was

Queen Elizabeths first cousin.
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She killed plenty.

Wasn't she called Bloody Mary?
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That was Mary Tudor daughter of King Henry VIII

Mary Queen of Scots was the wife of the French Dauphin that died of a tooth infection, then went to Scotland as Queen and married Lord Darnley.
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And now since we are at GLP we should look at this from another point of view. According to the church all this rumours of depravation and economic mismanagement are attempts to influence the result of the Conclave.
As a direct result of this accusations Cardinal O'brien will not be part of the Conclave which will mean the UK church will have no say on whom will be the next Pope. Cardinal O'brien could be considered a conservative member of the Conclave and his vote wouldn't have gone to a candidate who was a reformer. He is of the ilk of the salient Pope, steady as it goes. Surely he wouldn't have voted for a non-European as next Pope when a said non-European I mean westerner.

This is the Conclave that is meant to choose Peter the Roman the last Pope, the false prophet, the shepherd that will witness the destruction of the Rome and the church. Evil might be working behind the scenes and then again it might all be bullshit.

Still interesting times and a process well worth keeping an eye on.
 Quoting: monfra


Thought provoking...
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She may have had a hand in killing one.
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She could have blown up her own husband.

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And now since we are at GLP we should look at this from another point of view. According to the church all this rumours of depravation and economic mismanagement are attempts to influence the result of the Conclave.
As a direct result of this accusations Cardinal O'brien will not be part of the Conclave which will mean the UK church will have no say on whom will be the next Pope. Cardinal O'brien could be considered a conservative member of the Conclave and his vote wouldn't have gone to a candidate who was a reformer. He is of the ilk of the salient Pope, steady as it goes. Surely he wouldn't have voted for a non-European as next Pope when a said non-European I mean westerner.

This is the Conclave that is meant to choose Peter the Roman the last Pope, the false prophet, the shepherd that will witness the destruction of the Rome and the church. Evil might be working behind the scenes and then again it might all be bullshit.

Still interesting times and a process well worth keeping an eye on.
 Quoting: monfra


Thought provoking...
 Quoting: Sol Neman


Absolutely - and the best thing to do is keep an open mind and don't make assumptions. Wait until this plays out and make your own determinations based on the facts. Suffice it to say, all of this happening now is just flat out weird.
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All kinds of intrigue at the top.
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Am I the only one who shakes my head in amazement every time someone calls the pope "holy father"?? Ummmm if that's holy, the Lord help us all! And what about this verse in the Bible??

Matthew 23:9
And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

Not only do they call him father, but they have the audacity to put HOLY in front of it! BLASPHEMY!!
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Signs of the Times - IMO we are experiencing the collapse of the structures of a dying system based upon inequality and ignorance

with the event of the inter-net, consciousness has increased (even if intelligence hasn't) dramatically ... people are starting to research where they contribute their energy - and are with-drawing their support from the BIG ones who use it (collectively) to manifest the elitist system we have been supporting for far too long. Culture is dissolving into a global soup - Religion is an out-mode ed form of "networking" and control ... Science is so restricted, compartmentalized and "edited" we have NO IDEA what their agenda is - people have learned not to trust them to do the right thing for the Greater Good either

the sick thing is, that every Catholic KNOWS that 99% of the Priests are perverts ... and THEY ACCEPT THAT - even when it means that their own children are being MOLESTED

It is NOT my problem - it is theirs to deal with ... but if the Pope is allowed to retire, and this issue is swept under the table - then does anyone expect the Church to fire all their gay priest ? or will it be business as usual, with a change of puppets - like so many other "sovereign nations" lately - out of sight, out of mind ?

I sure appreciate the fact that I was not raised (programed) Catholic ... that is one fucked up religion
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She killed plenty.

Wasn't she called Bloody Mary?
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Bloody Mary was Queen Mary who led the Catholic reformation. Mary Queen of Scots was Elizabeth 1st cousin.

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