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So in conclusion, Lucifer is another name for Venus, Eosphorus, and Heilel. It describes the second planet, the morning star. While Yeshua is metaphorically likened to it in 2 Peter and Revelation, King Nebuchadnezzar receives this honor in Isaiah 14. Unfortunately, Satan is never given such distinction.

know your stuff people...
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Incorrect. Besides, we follow Jesus Christ, not your god.
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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May the Morning Star which never sets
find this flame still burning:
Christ, that Morning Star,
who came back from the dead,

and shed his peaceful light on all mankind,
your Son, who lives and reigns for ever and ever.
Amen.



Flammas eius lúcifer matutínus invéniat:
ille, inquam, lúcifer, qui nescit occásum.
Christus Fílius tuus,
qui, regréssus ab ínferis, humáno géneri serénus illúxit,
et vivit et regnat in sæcula sæculórum


i think they stole the word seculorum form harry potter,no?
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Read the messages from Jesus.

[link to www.thewarningsecondcoming.com]

He told us the Pope would be ousted a year ago. He also said that the Vatican was infiltrated by evil......the Masons.

Jesus told us that Pope Benedict XVI is His loyal and faithful servant surrounded by evil

The next Pope will be the false prophet.
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May the Morning Star which never sets
find this flame still burning:
Christ, that Morning Star,
who came back from the dead,

and shed his peaceful light on all mankind,
your Son, who lives and reigns for ever and ever.
Amen.



Flammas eius lúcifer matutínus invéniat:
ille, inquam, lúcifer, qui nescit occásum.
Christus Fílius tuus,
qui, regréssus ab ínferis, humáno géneri serénus illúxit,
et vivit et regnat in sæcula sæculórum


i think they stole the word seculorum form harry potter,no?
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The Roman Catholic Church is an apostate abomination.
It is NOT the Body of Christ (the redeemed),
but an evil institution that has been ruled over by
Lucifer and his minions from the beginning.

It's history is vile and bloody, and today
it is the breeding ground for sodomite priests.

It's doctrines are anti-christ, and despicable
anti-Biblical superstition.

If you find yourself in that mess, run for your life.
Your eternal destiny depends on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35262374


And yet, it's the ONLY place where the Body and Blood of Christ resides (per the Bible) -- notwithstanding the flawed members in her ranks.
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John said .....in the beginning was the word and the word was made flesh


when Jesus said you must eat my flesh and drink my blood he was saying you must eat the Word.....

In other words......you must daily partake in personnel communion with him by reading the Holy Scripture

you Catholics have eyes but you do not see ...you have ears but you don't hear .....because you are carnally minded and Christ was spiritually minded

if in the catholic communion the bread literally becomes the flesh body of Jesus Christ then God would be requiring us humans to literally eat the human flesh body of Jesus Christ ...... that would be an abomination and akin to the old ancient pagan religions

.....

if the Catholic Church only had 500 followers and they only had one church let's say in Wyoming ....then the world would see them as a cult because of their heretical doctrines ......but because so many people haven fallen for their satanic doctrines .... The whole world wonders aft the Beast
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Is that why many of his disciples walked away from him at this hard teaching?
This was the hard teaching? To pray and read the word? Something doesn't add up here.
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The prophecy of the last popes also coincides with Bible prophecy. The 7 kings that where shown to John in Rev 17.

Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.


Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The popes became kings in 1929 when Mussolini gave them their own country. The Vatican state. Since that time, we have had 7 kings. here are the 7 kings.

1st King Pius XI
2nd king Pius XII
3rd King John XXIII
4th King Paul VI
5th king John Paul I
6th King John Paul II
7th King Benedict XVI
8th King ?

But the prophecy says that their will be an 8th king. Notice though that this prophecy is about 7 KINGS, not 8.

What this means I don't know, but it can't be anything good, will the devil be the ruling next, will he use the likeness of one of the first 7 popes? Maybe! Times are indeed interesting.
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I asked this question in another thread about that passage a moment ago - with the 8th being a part of the 7th, could that mean the 8th reigns during the lifetime of the 7th?

If Benedict steps down and is still alive when the next Pope takes over, could that fulfill the prophecy of the 7/8 kings?

I felt very inspired with the Holy Spirit when I found myself questioning this today, any thoughts on this interpretation from other Christians?
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Read the messages from Jesus.

[link to www.thewarningsecondcoming.com]

He told us the Pope would be ousted a year ago. He also said that the Vatican was infiltrated by evil......the Masons.

Jesus told us that Pope Benedict XVI is His loyal and faithful servant surrounded by evil

The next Pope will be the false prophet.
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don't know what to make of that
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since no one else will, here goes nothing....

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Poor Christians. They ignore even their own religion:

[link to www.acts17-11.com]

[link to sanctusvesania.hubpages.com]

[link to bible.org]
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The Roman Catholic Church is an apostate abomination.
It is NOT the Body of Christ (the redeemed),
but an evil institution that has been ruled over by
Lucifer and his minions from the beginning.

It's history is vile and bloody, and today
it is the breeding ground for sodomite priests.

It's doctrines are anti-christ, and despicable
anti-Biblical superstition.

If you find yourself in that mess, run for your life.
Your eternal destiny depends on it.
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And yet, it's the ONLY place where the Body and Blood of Christ resides (per the Bible) -- notwithstanding the flawed members in her ranks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28649819



John said .....in the beginning was the word and the word was made flesh


when Jesus said you must eat my flesh and drink my blood he was saying you must eat the Word.....

In other words......you must daily partake in personnel communion with him by reading the Holy Scripture

you Catholics have eyes but you do not see ...you have ears but you don't hear .....because you are carnally minded and Christ was spiritually minded

if in the catholic communion the bread literally becomes the flesh body of Jesus Christ then God would be requiring us humans to literally eat the human flesh body of Jesus Christ ...... that would be an abomination and akin to the old ancient pagan religions

.....

if the Catholic Church only had 500 followers and they only had one church let's say in Wyoming ....then the world would see them as a cult because of their heretical doctrines ......but because so many people haven fallen for their satanic doctrines .... The whole world wonders aft the Beast
 Quoting: Simple_Man


Is that why many of his disciples walked away from him at this hard teaching?
This was the hard teaching? To pray and read the word? Something doesn't add up here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27646967


I think that "Blood" is often a euphemism for DNA. By taking communion, you are being changed by the code of Christs body, in preparation for our transformation into the higher bodies God will give us. AND THIS IS WHY YOU HAVE TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS PRIOR TO THE END.

Because his spirit CHANGES AND READIES you. Those who never even started down the road of renewal with Christ can't come, not because God hates them, but because they are literally incompatible with the bodies and kingdom of heaven. God has no other choice but to obey your freewill if you've chosen not to grow the seed of Christ inside you in readiness.

So no, it is not cannibalism. It's metaphysical and the ancestors only explained it the best they could alongside their own frame of reference.
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they are singing in latin.

In latin "lucifer" is the word for Lightbringer.

Case closed.
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they are singing in latin.

In latin "lucifer" is the word for Lightbringer.

Case closed.
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+1
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they are singing in latin.

In latin "lucifer" is the word for Lightbringer.

Case closed.
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Catholic idiot.

What will it EVER take for you to come out of Babylon?
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Only an act of God, but I think he spat one too many times in the face of God so God declared him persona non grata and cut him off, it happens you know.
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So, a bunch of perverts make some statements regarding a myth and this affects us how? You fucking religious bastards are the reason for all the chaos and misery in the world.
Fuck your yahweh, fuck your jesus, fuck your satan...and fuck you! :-)
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Actually, it's about those who are in control of the major religions and what they're doing to make prophecy happen.

It's not about Religion, it's about sick, twisted individuals who are willing to create abominations to scare the hell out of people, because they know most Mainstream Religious followers won't give up their freedoms unless they think the end of the world is really happening.

"We'll save you if you swear allegiance to our rule."

Another False Flag event.
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And yet, it's the ONLY place where the Body and Blood of Christ resides (per the Bible) -- notwithstanding the flawed members in her ranks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28649819



John said .....in the beginning was the word and the word was made flesh


when Jesus said you must eat my flesh and drink my blood he was saying you must eat the Word.....

In other words......you must daily partake in personnel communion with him by reading the Holy Scripture

you Catholics have eyes but you do not see ...you have ears but you don't hear .....because you are carnally minded and Christ was spiritually minded

if in the catholic communion the bread literally becomes the flesh body of Jesus Christ then God would be requiring us humans to literally eat the human flesh body of Jesus Christ ...... that would be an abomination and akin to the old ancient pagan religions

.....

if the Catholic Church only had 500 followers and they only had one church let's say in Wyoming ....then the world would see them as a cult because of their heretical doctrines ......but because so many people haven fallen for their satanic doctrines .... The whole world wonders aft the Beast
 Quoting: Simple_Man


Is that why many of his disciples walked away from him at this hard teaching?
This was the hard teaching? To pray and read the word? Something doesn't add up here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27646967


I think that "Blood" is often a euphemism for DNA. By taking communion, you are being changed by the code of Christs body, in preparation for our transformation into the higher bodies God will give us. AND THIS IS WHY YOU HAVE TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS PRIOR TO THE END.

Because his spirit CHANGES AND READIES you. Those who never even started down the road of renewal with Christ can't come, not because God hates them, but because they are literally incompatible with the bodies and kingdom of heaven. God has no other choice but to obey your freewill if you've chosen not to grow the seed of Christ inside you in readiness.

So no, it is not cannibalism. It's metaphysical and the ancestors only explained it the best they could alongside their own frame of reference.
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Nah that's not how the caffs see it, they say it transforms into literal flesh (because they never read entire chapters of the Bible they just pick pieces they want to fit with their Mystery Babylon religion).

You can do this, make poisoned bread and then tell the cafflicks it is poison bread then have their priest do their magick and then it's transformed, this is what they believe, then have them eat it in the blasphemous mass, they will of course die from the poison bread because these phonies have no power, their magick does not work.

Here's some simple straightforward articles:
[link to www.jesus-is-lord.com]
[link to www.jesus-is-lord.com]
[link to www.jesus-is-lord.com]

and then about John 6 that cafflicks always try to twist to their own cannibal ways:
[link to www.jesus-is-lord.com]
[link to www.jesus-is-lord.com]

it's a satanic cult and a very stupid and retarded one at that. They believe that bs because they are spiritually blinded from worshiping all those little statues, idols, crucifixes etc. Bible is very clear that idol worshipers get spiritually blinded from the practice (Psalm 115 and 135 for example).
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This thread is totally freaking me out and I'm not even Catholic.

My God I'm living in he last days!..........
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Ill be back on this one,,,
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So, a bunch of perverts make some statements regarding a myth and this affects us how? You fucking religious bastards are the reason for all the chaos and misery in the world.
Fuck your yahweh, fuck your jesus, fuck your satan...and fuck you! :-)
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Actually, it's about those who are in control of the major religions and what they're doing to make prophecy happen.

It's not about Religion, it's about sick, twisted individuals who are willing to create abominations to scare the hell out of people, because they know most Mainstream Religious followers won't give up their freedoms unless they think the end of the world is really happening.

"We'll save you if you swear allegiance to our rule."

Another False Flag event.
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Your logic is flawed why would anyone give up their freedom to stop Gods judgment on the planet? You do know that the prophecies are about punishing unrepentant evil men right? That is the same people you talk about and that are sometimes used by God to punish themselves with.

You speak as if people are good, that is not the case, people are generally wicked.

Typical atheist conspiratard always painting out these powerless muppets as something far more powerful than they will ever be, just as they like it.
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The Roman Catholic Church is an apostate abomination.
It is NOT the Body of Christ (the redeemed),
but an evil institution that has been ruled over by
Lucifer and his minions from the beginning.

It's history is vile and bloody, and today
it is the breeding ground for sodomite priests.

It's doctrines are anti-christ, and despicable
anti-Biblical superstition.

If you find yourself in that mess, run for your life.
Your eternal destiny depends on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35262374


And yet, it's the ONLY place where the Body and Blood of Christ resides (per the Bible) -- notwithstanding the flawed members in her ranks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28649819



John said .....in the beginning was the word and the word was made flesh


when Jesus said you must eat my flesh and drink my blood he was saying you must eat the Word.....

In other words......you must daily partake in personnel communion with him by reading the Holy Scripture

you Catholics have eyes but you do not see ...you have ears but you don't hear .....because you are carnally minded and Christ was spiritually minded

if in the catholic communion the bread literally becomes the flesh body of Jesus Christ then God would be requiring us humans to literally eat the human flesh body of Jesus Christ ...... that would be an abomination and akin to the old ancient pagan religions

.....

if the Catholic Church only had 500 followers and they only had one church let's say in Wyoming ....then the world would see them as a cult because of their heretical doctrines ......but because so many people haven fallen for their satanic doctrines .... The whole world wonders aft the Beast
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Is that why many of his disciples walked away from him at this hard teaching?
This was the hard teaching? To pray and read the word? Something doesn't add up here.
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They walked away because they thought he was asking them to literally eat his flesh and drink his blood because they were carnally minded ....

The Catholics because of their carnal minds take Jesus for his words literally and then they concocted the doctrine of literally eating flesh and blood during communion when Jesus in the same chapter said this

63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

so eating a wafer is a human flesh action and has no life in it .....just like the Hebrew children that literally ate bread (manna ) that rained down from heaven in a miraculous event........the Hebrew children ate blessed tangible bread yet Jesus said they all died in the wilderness .......all that word " dead" he used there is spiritually dead because there was 2 million that came out of eygpt but only 2 ....Joshua and Caleb crossed over into the promise land

Partaking in communion is a fleshy act .....there is no salvation in it......we just do it in rememberence of him

John 6:63 .....it is the spirit that quickeneth ; the flesh profiteth little ....

If eating a wafer is the literal body of Jesus Christ coming into a man then that would mean that the God of heaven and earth resides in anyone that partakers in catholic communion......yet that same priest will go and commit forced sodomy on a child ........ how can this be if The Lord Jesus Christ is in the priest from taking communion

Again.... having eyes you do not see and having ears you don't not hear

The in dwelling of Jesus in the form of the Holy Spirit has nothing to do with a carnal excercise like communion ..... But it has everything with to do with a supernatural spiritual event ....and it happens when a sincere person opens his Bible and asks the Holy Spirit to reveal the words to his heart (soul man) .......line upon line ....precept upon precept ....

like pouring water from a jug into a cup

The Holy Spirit pours itself into the human vessel thru a continual infilling over time ... When you are spiritually born again you are a spiritual baby and you only handle spiritual milk like the apostle Paul said ...... But as you start to grow spiritually over time then the Holy Spirit starts to reveal himself in a deeper manner ......

how does the growth of the Holy Spirit in a human happen then ...... The Word

Jesus was the Word ......the Word was Jesus .....Jesus said ....my Words are Spirit .......when God reveals to you what the scripture is saying then he is quickining the words on the paper and making it alive in your heart ....and in doing so you are being filled with His Spirit ....which he said is the Word and John said that Jesus was the Word

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Read the messages from Jesus.

[link to www.thewarningsecondcoming.com]

He told us the Pope would be ousted a year ago. He also said that the Vatican was infiltrated by evil......the Masons.

Jesus told us that Pope Benedict XVI is His loyal and faithful servant surrounded by evil

The next Pope will be the false prophet.
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don't know what to make of that
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Well for starters, if you look at the logo on that page you see an idol, if you had read your Bible you would know that crucifixes, icons, statues etc. of Jesus are strictly forbidden, another fact is that this idolworshiping heresy came in around 300 AD, so we have some people 270 years after Jesus returns to heaven start making pictures, statues etc. of a person they have never seen and of whom there are no clear description of in the Bible starting making pictures.

All that is is a money making scam and a way to make people sin. A guy that claims to know so much about the Bible as that link does sure could not have missed at least 100 verses that forbids the practice of making and worshiping idols, yet here he is having these same idols on the front of his webpage.

You can rest assured it's a lie or a trick. Someone is out to deceive people.
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Here is the Exsultet sang during Easter Vigil
high Mass when we light candles waiting for
the Light of the World, Christ Jesus:
Complete 1962 and 1975 (final verse changed)
in Latin and English:
[link to www.preces-latinae.org]

^^^^Read it for yourself !^^^^


Catholic Encyclopedia
The name Lucifer originally denotes the planet Venus, emphasizing its brilliance. The Vulgate employs the word also for "the light of the morning" (Job 11:17), "the signs of the zodiac" (Job 38:32), and "the aurora" (Psalm 109:3). Metaphorically, the word is applied to the King of Babylon (Isaiah 14:12) as preeminent among the princes of his time; to the high priest Simon son of Onias (Ecclesiasticus 50:6), for his surpassing virtue, to the glory of heaven (Apocalypse 2:28), by reason of its excellency; finally to Jesus Christ himself (2 Peter 1:19; Apocalypse 22:16; the "Exultet" of Holy Saturday) the true light of our spiritual life.

The Syriac version and the version of Aquila derive the Hebrew noun helel from the verb yalal, "to lament"; St. Jerome agrees with them (In Isaiah 1.14), and makes Lucifer the name of the principal fallen angel who must lament the loss of his original glory bright as the morning star. In Christian tradition this meaning of Lucifer has prevailed; the Fathers maintain that Lucifer is not the proper name of the devil, but denotes only the state from which he has fallen (Petavius, De Angelis, III, iii, 4).
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All I know, using a dead Pope's body and tomb as an altar is really strange...

Pope John Paul II Exhumed Coffin and Body
Used as an Altar(!)
for Sunday Mass at the Vatican


See photo's: [link to conspiracynews.myfeedportal.com]
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John Paul II rises from the dead.
Thread: POPE JOHN PAUL WILL RISE FROM THE DEAD AND WILL REIGN WILL BE EITHER THE ANTICHRIST OR FALSE PROPHET (Page 3)

Pope John Paul II Exhumed Coffin and Body Used as Altar
[link to conspiracynews.myfeedportal.com]

Live Webcam of the late Pope's Coffin
[link to www.vaticanstate.va]

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This thread is totally freaking me out and I'm not even Catholic.

My God I'm living in he last days!..........
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Ill be back on this one,,,
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Don't bother, it's

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preeeeeeeeeetty much .....
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If this thread doesn't give you a doom woody the hell are you doing here. 5 stars opp
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they are singing in latin.

In latin "lucifer" is the word for Lightbringer.

Case closed.
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Could you then tell me if this is right ...
I have heard then, it referenced that it was Lucifer who was cast from Heaven?
Is it then safe to assume it means Lucifer, is Satan, is the devil etc...?
Please explain if you could?

Thank you.
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Here is the Exsultet sang during Easter Vigil
high Mass when we light candles waiting for
the Light of the World, Christ Jesus:
Complete 1962 and 1975 (final verse changed)
in Latin and English:
[link to www.preces-latinae.org]

^^^^Read it for yourself !^^^^


Catholic Encyclopedia
The name Lucifer originally denotes the planet Venus, emphasizing its brilliance. The Vulgate employs the word also for "the light of the morning" (Job 11:17), "the signs of the zodiac" (Job 38:32), and "the aurora" (Psalm 109:3). Metaphorically, the word is applied to the King of Babylon (Isaiah 14:12) as preeminent among the princes of his time; to the high priest Simon son of Onias (Ecclesiasticus 50:6), for his surpassing virtue, to the glory of heaven (Apocalypse 2:28), by reason of its excellency; finally to Jesus Christ himself (2 Peter 1:19; Apocalypse 22:16; the "Exultet" of Holy Saturday) the true light of our spiritual life.

The Syriac version and the version of Aquila derive the Hebrew noun helel from the verb yalal, "to lament"; St. Jerome agrees with them (In Isaiah 1.14), and makes Lucifer the name of the principal fallen angel who must lament the loss of his original glory bright as the morning star. In Christian tradition this meaning of Lucifer has prevailed; the Fathers maintain that Lucifer is not the proper name of the devil, but denotes only the state from which he has fallen (Petavius, De Angelis, III, iii, 4).
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Lucifer is not the proper name of the devil, but denotes only the state from which he has fallen (Petavius, De Angelis, III, iii, 4). ... So in laymans terms, you are saying his name was Lucifer when he was on the good side and after "God" cast him out, then his name changed to satan or the devil etc ...
Essentially he was known as Lucifer while he was in Heaven but after being cast down to earth..?, he then became satan/devil/beezelbub or whatever ...please and thank you
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LOL. None of you have a grasp for any of this. None of you understand past history or are you historians. None of you have studied Latin and or any other languages to know shit.You have not onlt not studied the Bible or any other written documents on other religious scripture. You pull a few lines out of the hat and........

OH. AH. OOOH AHHHH. WOW. JEEZE That is the sounds of stupidity thinking they have it all figured out when none of you understand shit.

Thats why we have governments to keep the stupid masses in line that think they have it all figi=ured out cause otherwise the peons would cause chaos. I could see just this little mob mentality in just this little thread burning witches.

LOL. Ignorance is not bliss its anarchy.

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