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FOCUS ON ROME: What The Vatican is Preparing For and NOT TELLING YOU!!

 
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Here is the Exsultet sang during Easter Vigil
high Mass when we light candles waiting for
the Light of the World, Christ Jesus:
Complete 1962 and 1975 (final verse changed)
in Latin and English:
[link to www.preces-latinae.org]

^^^^Read it for yourself !^^^^


Catholic Encyclopedia
The name Lucifer originally denotes the planet Venus, emphasizing its brilliance. The Vulgate employs the word also for "the light of the morning" (Job 11:17), "the signs of the zodiac" (Job 38:32), and "the aurora" (Psalm 109:3). Metaphorically, the word is applied to the King of Babylon (Isaiah 14:12) as preeminent among the princes of his time; to the high priest Simon son of Onias (Ecclesiasticus 50:6), for his surpassing virtue, to the glory of heaven (Apocalypse 2:28), by reason of its excellency; finally to Jesus Christ himself (2 Peter 1:19; Apocalypse 22:16; the "Exultet" of Holy Saturday) the true light of our spiritual life.

The Syriac version and the version of Aquila derive the Hebrew noun helel from the verb yalal, "to lament"; St. Jerome agrees with them (In Isaiah 1.14), and makes Lucifer the name of the principal fallen angel who must lament the loss of his original glory bright as the morning star. In Christian tradition this meaning of Lucifer has prevailed; the Fathers maintain that Lucifer is not the proper name of the devil, but denotes only the state from which he has fallen (Petavius, De Angelis, III, iii, 4).
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Lucifer is not the proper name of the devil, but denotes only the state from which he has fallen (Petavius, De Angelis, III, iii, 4). ... So in laymans terms, you are saying his name was Lucifer when he was on the good side and after "God" cast him out, then his name changed to satan or the devil etc ...
Essentially he was known as Lucifer while he was in Heaven but after being cast down to earth..?, he then became satan/devil/beezelbub or whatever ...please and thank you
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This is starting to get real heavy. I can't believe that we are all here at this time. Wow. I don't know what to think...
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bsflag

Just a devil distraction, the Devil wants your attention, ignore it.

Peace.
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LOL. None of you have a grasp for any of this. None of you understand past history or are you historians. None of you have studied Latin and or any other languages to know shit.You have not onlt not studied the Bible or any other written documents on other religious scripture. You pull a few lines out of the hat and........

OH. AH. OOOH AHHHH. WOW. JEEZE That is the sounds of stupidity thinking they have it all figured out when none of you understand shit.

Thats why we have governments to keep the stupid masses in line that think they have it all figi=ured out cause otherwise the peons would cause chaos. I could see just this little mob mentality in just this little thread burning witches.

LOL. Ignorance is not bliss its anarchy.
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YOU MAD BRO?
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Amazing truth Dutch - Warning to our catholic friends- THIS THREAD NEEDS TO BE PERMa - PINNED if there wAs a category for this.
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Read the messages from Jesus.

[link to www.thewarningsecondcoming.com]

He told us the Pope would be ousted a year ago. He also said that the Vatican was infiltrated by evil......the Masons.

Jesus told us that Pope Benedict XVI is His loyal and faithful servant surrounded by evil

The next Pope will be the false prophet.
 Quoting: gatzster


don't know what to make of that
 Quoting: Swinburnian


Well for starters, if you look at the logo on that page you see an idol, if you had read your Bible you would know that crucifixes, icons, statues etc. of Jesus are strictly forbidden, another fact is that this idolworshiping heresy came in around 300 AD, so we have some people 270 years after Jesus returns to heaven start making pictures, statues etc. of a person they have never seen and of whom there are no clear description of in the Bible starting making pictures.

All that is is a money making scam and a way to make people sin. A guy that claims to know so much about the Bible as that link does sure could not have missed at least 100 verses that forbids the practice of making and worshiping idols, yet here he is having these same idols on the front of his webpage.

You can rest assured it's a lie or a trick. Someone is out to deceive people.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-



I completely agree with you.
The part about making claims, absent witness to anything.
Making false claims.

So would that not apply to everything religion related, I mean given "mans" HIStory, he has tainted everything he has touched, EVERYTHING.

Yet everyone religious claims and follows the exact same process, religion was once forbidden to commoners and peasants, what makes anyone think the TRUTH would be out anywhere for anyone of us to find or CONceive?

Is there God or Creator or such without religion?

PLEASE don't answer me with Jesus and the book says ... that is exactly what I am talking about.
There is no man given pathway to the truth, we honestly must say without FAITH, we do not know.

None of us were present when any such book was written, compiled, changed, translated, stolen, created, mis-translated or proofed.

Please understand religious people, I am not ever going to knock or take away from your honest, true love for God.
Reality though tells me, are we not perhaps drinking from tainted waters?

I genuinely seek God/higher being/Creator in everything good and mosty TRUTH, truth of origin, creation and the idea there may never really be a true utopian society, however I can not claim as many do, false witness because it was man made and handed to me in a leather bound cover.
Is there God without religion?


Peace, love and the TRUTH.
I seek.
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All I know, using a dead Pope's body and tomb as an altar is really strange...

Pope John Paul II Exhumed Coffin and Body
Used as an Altar(!)
for Sunday Mass at the Vatican


See photo's: [link to conspiracynews.myfeedportal.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 566027


John Paul II rises from the dead.
Thread: POPE JOHN PAUL WILL RISE FROM THE DEAD AND WILL REIGN WILL BE EITHER THE ANTICHRIST OR FALSE PROPHET (Page 3)

Pope John Paul II Exhumed Coffin and Body Used as Altar
[link to conspiracynews.myfeedportal.com]

Live Webcam of the late Pope's Coffin
[link to www.vaticanstate.va]
 Quoting: a student of Protean thought


He is going to have to push up a huge, heavy altar to get out though/
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So, a bunch of perverts make some statements regarding a myth and this affects us how? You fucking religious bastards are the reason for all the chaos and misery in the world.
Fuck your yahweh, fuck your jesus, fuck your satan...and fuck you! :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30462586


Actually, it's about those who are in control of the major religions and what they're doing to make prophecy happen.

It's not about Religion, it's about sick, twisted individuals who are willing to create abominations to scare the hell out of people, because they know most Mainstream Religious followers won't give up their freedoms unless they think the end of the world is really happening.

"We'll save you if you swear allegiance to our rule."

Another False Flag event.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25225980


Your logic is flawed why would anyone give up their freedom to stop Gods judgment on the planet? You do know that the prophecies are about punishing unrepentant evil men right? That is the same people you talk about and that are sometimes used by God to punish themselves with.

You speak as if people are good, that is not the case, people are generally wicked.

Typical atheist conspiratard always painting out these powerless muppets as something far more powerful than they will ever be, just as they like it.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


Whether you think it's logical or not, doesn't matter. This is what "THEY'VE" said they're going to do, and if you haven't noticed, they're doing it. Their centuries long research of human behavior has been for a reason. You think this is about "God's" wrath, when it's the furthest thing from it, but they'll love you to think it is.

You're no more than a typical dumb-ass with your own assumptions, so don't point your ass-picking fingers when you don't have any more insight than a vegetable. The only thing your post shows is you can't see past your own self-righteous ego.
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The Untold Story of the Genocide of Aboriginal Peoples by Church and State in Canada
by (Rev.) Kevin Annett
[link to canadiangenocide.nativeweb.org]

International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State
[link to itccs.org]

Back at the VC ranch...

According to Papal Bullas, The Vatican justifiably argues that its officials are holders of the divine truth, unaccountable to worldly laws.
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Bump to finish reading later.

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New book - ROTTEN [link to www.amazon.com]
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So, a bunch of perverts make some statements regarding a myth and this affects us how? You fucking religious bastards are the reason for all the chaos and misery in the world.
Fuck your yahweh, fuck your jesus, fuck your satan...and fuck you! :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30462586


Actually, it's about those who are in control of the major religions and what they're doing to make prophecy happen.

It's not about Religion, it's about sick, twisted individuals who are willing to create abominations to scare the hell out of people, because they know most Mainstream Religious followers won't give up their freedoms unless they think the end of the world is really happening.

"We'll save you if you swear allegiance to our rule."

Another False Flag event.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25225980


Your logic is flawed why would anyone give up their freedom to stop Gods judgment on the planet? You do know that the prophecies are about punishing unrepentant evil men right? That is the same people you talk about and that are sometimes used by God to punish themselves with.

You speak as if people are good, that is not the case, people are generally wicked.

Typical atheist conspiratard always painting out these powerless muppets as something far more powerful than they will ever be, just as they like it.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


Whether you think it's logical or not, doesn't matter. This is what "THEY'VE" said they're going to do, and if you haven't noticed, they're doing it. Their centuries long research of human behavior has been for a reason. You think this is about "God's" wrath, when it's the furthest thing from it, but they'll love you to think it is.

You're no more than a typical dumb-ass with your own assumptions, so don't point your ass-picking fingers when you don't have any more insight than a vegetable. The only thing your post shows is you can't see past your own self-righteous ego.
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Chill. Try to learn something. Time is short.
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All I know, using a dead Pope's body and tomb as an altar is really strange...

Pope John Paul II Exhumed Coffin and Body
Used as an Altar(!)
for Sunday Mass at the Vatican


See photo's: [link to conspiracynews.myfeedportal.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 566027


John Paul II rises from the dead.
Thread: POPE JOHN PAUL WILL RISE FROM THE DEAD AND WILL REIGN WILL BE EITHER THE ANTICHRIST OR FALSE PROPHET (Page 3)

Pope John Paul II Exhumed Coffin and Body Used as Altar
[link to conspiracynews.myfeedportal.com]

Live Webcam of the late Pope's Coffin
[link to www.vaticanstate.va]
 Quoting: a student of Protean thought


He is going to have to push up a huge, heavy altar to get out though/
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A little help from above.

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they are singing in latin.

In latin "lucifer" is the word for Lightbringer.

Case closed.
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case closed that you are a satanic pig
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they are singing in latin.

In latin "lucifer" is the word for Lightbringer.

Case closed.
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That's not an excuse.

Christ is NOT "the son of the Lightbringer"...
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den denn den den... I am the way, the truth and ..the LIGHT.

Out of the darkenss into the light. Ring a bell anyone?
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Watch this from 1986!!


1986 speech given by now deceased Priest John O'Conner





Part 2




PART 3






Again this is from 1986!!
A small change at one place in a complex system, can have large effects elswhere..
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Actually, it's about those who are in control of the major religions and what they're doing to make prophecy happen.

It's not about Religion, it's about sick, twisted individuals who are willing to create abominations to scare the hell out of people, because they know most Mainstream Religious followers won't give up their freedoms unless they think the end of the world is really happening.

"We'll save you if you swear allegiance to our rule."

Another False Flag event.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25225980


Your logic is flawed why would anyone give up their freedom to stop Gods judgment on the planet? You do know that the prophecies are about punishing unrepentant evil men right? That is the same people you talk about and that are sometimes used by God to punish themselves with.

You speak as if people are good, that is not the case, people are generally wicked.

Typical atheist conspiratard always painting out these powerless muppets as something far more powerful than they will ever be, just as they like it.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


Whether you think it's logical or not, doesn't matter. This is what "THEY'VE" said they're going to do, and if you haven't noticed, they're doing it. Their centuries long research of human behavior has been for a reason. You think this is about "God's" wrath, when it's the furthest thing from it, but they'll love you to think it is.

You're no more than a typical dumb-ass with your own assumptions, so don't point your ass-picking fingers when you don't have any more insight than a vegetable. The only thing your post shows is you can't see past your own self-righteous ego.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25225980

Chill. Try to learn something. Time is short.
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Classic example of divide and rule demnostrates it is working.
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Actually, it's about those who are in control of the major religions and what they're doing to make prophecy happen.

It's not about Religion, it's about sick, twisted individuals who are willing to create abominations to scare the hell out of people, because they know most Mainstream Religious followers won't give up their freedoms unless they think the end of the world is really happening.

"We'll save you if you swear allegiance to our rule."

Another False Flag event.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25225980


Your logic is flawed why would anyone give up their freedom to stop Gods judgment on the planet? You do know that the prophecies are about punishing unrepentant evil men right? That is the same people you talk about and that are sometimes used by God to punish themselves with.

You speak as if people are good, that is not the case, people are generally wicked.

Typical atheist conspiratard always painting out these powerless muppets as something far more powerful than they will ever be, just as they like it.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-



Chill. Try to learn something. Time is short.
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There, fixed it for you.
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I'm
Ashamed to be a Catholic, which I'm really not. Just by birth.
I'm non denominational for sure.
Wtf is it with this fkng cult.....
For shame!
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You are being fooled. It is NOT Catholics. The last pope will be J*w*sh. Rothsc*ild controls the vatican. Read Talmud and Protocols. USS Liberty, lavon affair, king david hotel, rachel corrie...
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Funny, you listed everything except the most important book ever made, and the only one that has any true authority - The Bible.

It's our sword and shield.
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I'm
Ashamed to be a Catholic, which I'm really not. Just by birth.
I'm non denominational for sure.
Wtf is it with this fkng cult.....
For shame!
 Quoting: natasha77


You are being fooled. It is NOT Catholics. The last pope will be J*w*sh. Rothsc*ild controls the vatican. Read Talmud and Protocols. USS Liberty, lavon affair, king david hotel, rachel corrie...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16673400


Funny, you listed everything except the most important book ever made, and the only one that has any true authority - The Bible.

It's our sword and shield.
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Which bible though? There seems to be so many.
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And yet, it's the ONLY place where the Body and Blood of Christ resides (per the Bible) -- notwithstanding the flawed members in her ranks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28649819



John said .....in the beginning was the word and the word was made flesh


when Jesus said you must eat my flesh and drink my blood he was saying you must eat the Word.....

In other words......you must daily partake in personnel communion with him by reading the Holy Scripture

you Catholics have eyes but you do not see ...you have ears but you don't hear .....because you are carnally minded and Christ was spiritually minded

if in the catholic communion the bread literally becomes the flesh body of Jesus Christ then God would be requiring us humans to literally eat the human flesh body of Jesus Christ ...... that would be an abomination and akin to the old ancient pagan religions

.....

if the Catholic Church only had 500 followers and they only had one church let's say in Wyoming ....then the world would see them as a cult because of their heretical doctrines ......but because so many people haven fallen for their satanic doctrines .... The whole world wonders aft the Beast
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Is that why many of his disciples walked away from him at this hard teaching?
This was the hard teaching? To pray and read the word? Something doesn't add up here.
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I think that "Blood" is often a euphemism for DNA. By taking communion, you are being changed by the code of Christs body, in preparation for our transformation into the higher bodies God will give us. AND THIS IS WHY YOU HAVE TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS PRIOR TO THE END.

Because his spirit CHANGES AND READIES you. Those who never even started down the road of renewal with Christ can't come, not because God hates them, but because they are literally incompatible with the bodies and kingdom of heaven. God has no other choice but to obey your freewill if you've chosen not to grow the seed of Christ inside you in readiness.

So no, it is not cannibalism. It's metaphysical and the ancestors only explained it the best they could alongside their own frame of reference.
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Blood means blood. Nobody had a clue what DNA was when that tradition originated.
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they are singing in latin.

In latin "lucifer" is the word for Lightbringer.

Case closed.
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Catholic idiot.

What will it EVER take for you to come out of Babylon?
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Yeah, when don't they have a cover story, it's like when they use the upside down crucifix, that's supposed to be because somebody was crucified upside down. The catholic church is the first church judged in the judgement of the seven churches in Revelations, God will take their candlestick away.
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HAHA!!!!!! TRUTH IS HURT, FIRST IT WILL PISSED YOU OFF.

I knew it the whole times, Glad OP post it.

We're living in EVIL Earth for thousand of years and Remember "GOD" can be good and evil.
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Bump to finish reading later.

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^this^
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Is the pope 666?
Is he the antichrist? The lawless one?
Does he have the mark of the beast?
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they are singing in latin.

In latin "lucifer" is the word for Lightbringer.

Case closed.
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Catholic idiot.

What will it EVER take for you to come out of Babylon?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35236038


Yeah, when don't they have a cover story, it's like when they use the upside down crucifix, that's supposed to be because somebody was crucified upside down. The catholic church is the first church judged in the judgement of the seven churches in Revelations, God will take their candlestick away.
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Somebody was Peter...
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And now look at this!!



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Mortal DOOM Drivel
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they are singing in latin.

In latin "lucifer" is the word for Lightbringer.

Case closed.
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Sadly people do not know Latin as they should, and are thereby easily swindled.
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bumping for later..

the next pope just looks evil..
"Government is good at one thing. It knows how to break your legs, hand you a crutch, and say, 'See, if it weren't for the government, you wouldn't be able to walk". -- Harry Browne
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never seen so much bullshit in all my life, have GOD in your heart not the pope or any other religious dickhead

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