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FOCUS ON ROME: What The Vatican is Preparing For and NOT TELLING YOU!!

 
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Why are they singing about lucifer??? What place would that have in the mass or any mass?!
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THANK GOD for intelligent people! You beat me to it! Keep up the great work!
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Ok explain in detail for us dummies please.
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Dutch, thanks so much for posting...especially the three part segment by Priest John O'conner. Wow. Back then (1986) I was a newly married college student...tried to tell my husband that we are going to a cashless society. He adamately said no way; it will never happen. A few years ago he acknowleged what I had said. I am shocked that this brave priest would be so informed and be so bold in the pulpit. That's definately the Holy Spirit. Many of those things back in 1986 I wasn't even aware of until after 9/11. Do you know anything more about him? I'm sure he's passed away.

I'll never forget my baby niece was getting baptised and I had left the church and joined the lutheran church. We got to the church (I had been asked to be the baby's godmother) and my SIL had to break it to me up at the altar before the service began that I could not be her godmother because I was not catholic. While she was telling me this, I saw the young priest smirking. Oh yeah, no regrets about leaving...

Things are going to get interesting (they already are) and we'd all better prepare for a bumpy ride.
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Your welcome! Goofy Thum
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What video has john oconnor. Was he the priest in new york city.
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POPE JOHN PAUL II TO BE RAISED FROM THE DEAD, REVELATION 13.3 AND REVEALTION 17 HE WILL BE THE FALSE PROPHET/ANTICHRIST. THIS IS THE REASON HE IS ABOVE THE GROUND IN A CRYPT, AND AHS A 24/7 CAMERA ON IT. NO BS RESEARCH IT
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...he is also Jewish.
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So you mean to tell me all those servants of the most "high" one (all in the perspective hehehe) clad in gold, silver, silk and satin as in satan LMAO, living on those castles aka as churches or basilicas dont represent the Creator and obviously are as far from Jesus message as Anton Lavey.

Interesting...

Gold, money, silk, the inverted cross the pope has always kissed plus his staff with an emaciated broken Jesus should be more than enough proof for those who have eyes to see and ears to listen.
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Like I said on page 7 of this thread, John Paul II was the last pope, not Benedict, Bxvi is an antipope, hence his retirement. www.666beast.net explains this. The count of popes'names/numbers to JPII was 665, JPII was 665, Bxvi is a zero, this next pope will be another fill-in antipope or Satan himself (or possibly a demon impersonating JPII). If this new pope takes a new name he will add '1' to the count, equaling 666 as the Antichrist. We are way past the end, we are on borrowed time. We are at a crisis in history.
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LOL. None of you have a grasp for any of this. None of you understand past history or are you historians. None of you have studied Latin and or any other languages to know shit.You have not onlt not studied the Bible or any other written documents on other religious scripture. You pull a few lines out of the hat and........

OH. AH. OOOH AHHHH. WOW. JEEZE That is the sounds of stupidity thinking they have it all figured out when none of you understand shit.

Thats why we have governments to keep the stupid masses in line that think they have it all figi=ured out cause otherwise the peons would cause chaos. I could see just this little mob mentality in just this little thread burning witches.

LOL. Ignorance is not bliss its anarchy.
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The Penalty for a Human being studying the Bible under Catholic rule was Death, Burning at the stake, 10's of thousands of Christians were burned at the stake for Studying the word of God,possibly millions.
The New Testament clearly tells us,in Christ's own words,"Call NO MAN FATHER,for their is only ONE Father and he is in Heaven". So what do Catholics call their Homo-Child Molesting,Murdering Priests ? Father!
Father,Forgive me I have sinned,they say at confession !
At no place in the Bible does it say that a Priest should be without a wife, in fact it was impossible for an unmarried man to become a Priest.
A Sin may be forgiven by Gods good Grace ,The Bible tells us that our Father "Delights in Mercy" and the Gift of His Sons Sacrifice is THE ONLY THING IN THIS SCREWED UP WORLD THAT WE HAVE GOING FOR US ! We are all Sinners,The Remedy is Yashuah Messiah,Not a Child Molester through a curtain telling you to do 20 Hail Mary's !
At no point did the Bible recommend Praying to the Mother of Christ , She was most certainly an Awesome Woman, Favored by God Himself,but we have NO recommendation to set her up as an Divine entity.Or Transform her into a Pagan Whore,as the Catholics of Rome Desire.
I do believe that a person can ask God (if it be his will)
to extend a Prayer,or Request,or a Hello to those family members who have Left too soon.
I think you might be able to ask a Good Angel to put a word in for you too,when times get tough, but I pray in the name of Christ.For crying out loud,God loves you,Repentance through Christ is between You and Christ,his freely given gift,not through men in Pretty Cloaks and hats.
God have mercy upon us,He made you,he loves you, but if you
toy with deception you might be doomed,study Gods word and do not get burned by the Inquisition,child molester,satanic sodomites.
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DO YOU REALLY THINK THE BIBLE IS GOING TO SHOW YOU THE TRUTH . WHAT KIND OF WORLD DO YOU THINK WE LIVE IN? The evil entity that rules this world would never show you the truth but here is what it would do--- It would write a story that would cull the masses , let the story play out line for line and feed you an illusion until your too weak to move, all the while you keep hope. Just like being stuck in a snow storm- either sit and pray to your god until you freeze to death or move your ass, forget about what you think is living in the sky and save your life... Sorry about the CAPS.
 Quoting: Galt


If you ever decide to humble yourself and submit to the spirit of God, admitting that you are a sinner than I guarantee that your eyes will be opened.

Of course the bible is the Truth. Jesus is The Word. And when that Word is spoken, our creator CREATES.

Denying that we are created beings is akin to discovering a laptop computer on Mars and suggesting that it just evolved that way. RIDICULOUS!

And while I understand your conspiracy theory that the elite have managed to produce a book that has withstood the test of time, and contained fulfilled prophecies written hundreds of years before they happened, it defies logic. Of course there are powers in this world, and the spiritual world that seek to deceive us. But there is also a God so powerful that He has managed to preserve His Word so that any who seek Him have the knowledge they need to withstand.

Amen!
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Therefore, my brothers, I implore you by God's mercy to offer your very selves to him: A living sacrifice, dedicated and fit for his acceptance, the worship offered by mind and heart. Adapt yourselves no longer to the pattern of this present world, but let your minds be remade and your whole nature thus transformed. Then you will be able to discern the will of God, and to know what is good, acceptable, and perfect.

Certain posts on here have been guided. I believe Dutch Retriever has been guided. Certain people have been drawn to these posts and absorbed them.

Enough of the superficial music that singes your soul instead of touching it?

Well meet these Visionary insightful souls.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Respect money, do not love it.

and by the way be kind to animals. I don't want to think a hamster was an evil human in a previous life.

Peace and love and as Gary Cole said on Midnight Caller, Goodnight America wherever you are.
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wtf
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The prophecy of the last popes also coincides with Bible prophecy. The 7 kings that where shown to John in Rev 17.

Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.


Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The popes became kings in 1929 when Mussolini gave them their own country. The Vatican state. Since that time, we have had 7 kings. here are the 7 kings.

1st King Pius XI
2nd king Pius XII
3rd King John XXIII
4th King Paul VI
5th king John Paul I
6th King John Paul II
7th King Benedict XVI
8th King ?

But the prophecy says that their will be an 8th king. Notice though that this prophecy is about 7 KINGS, not 8.

What this means I don't know, but it can't be anything good, will the devil be the ruling next, will he use the likeness of one of the first 7 popes? Maybe! Times are indeed interesting.
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This will all make much more sense after something happens to the new Pope (8th), and Benedict (7th) resumes.
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That could be also. But I just noticed something else. The Bible doesn't say that the 8th is a king, so maybe he will not be a pope in the sense of being called a pope. With everything going on in the church who knows, maybe they won't want to elect a new pope, because of these allegations against them, and what it could mean to the person who is declared pope?

This is getting very intriguing, and right now, since it's the 28th in Rome, that Iscariot guy,(I forget his name now) is the temporary head of the church.
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This is UN-FUCK-BELIVEABLE:


ille, inquam, Lúcifer, qui nescit occásum.
Christus Fílius tuus,
qui, regréssus ab ínferis, humáno géneri serénus illúxit,



No possible justification.

Period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30317398


Google translate:

he, I say, O Lucifer, who does not know the going down thereof.
Your Son, who, returning from hell, serenely shone forth upon the human race.

[link to translate.google.com]
"I think, therefore I am..."
René Descartes

"I don't think, therefore I am not..."
RockHall
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DO YOU REALLY THINK THE BIBLE IS GOING TO SHOW YOU THE TRUTH . WHAT KIND OF WORLD DO YOU THINK WE LIVE IN? The evil entity that rules this world would never show you the truth but here is what it would do--- It would write a story that would cull the masses , let the story play out line for line and feed you an illusion until your too weak to move, all the while you keep hope. Just like being stuck in a snow storm- either sit and pray to your god until you freeze to death or move your ass, forget about what you think is living in the sky and save your life... Sorry about the CAPS.
 Quoting: Galt


If you ever decide to humble yourself and submit to the spirit of God, admitting that you are a sinner than I guarantee that your eyes will be opened.

Of course the bible is the Truth. Jesus is The Word. And when that Word is spoken, our creator CREATES.

Denying that we are created beings is akin to discovering a laptop computer on Mars and suggesting that it just evolved that way. RIDICULOUS!

And while I understand your conspiracy theory that the elite have managed to produce a book that has withstood the test of time, and contained fulfilled prophecies written hundreds of years before they happened, it defies logic. Of course there are powers in this world, and the spiritual world that seek to deceive us. But there is also a God so powerful that He has managed to preserve His Word so that any who seek Him have the knowledge they need to withstand.

Amen!
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That was wonderfully said. :) Amen
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In my family there are people with all sorts of skills like cake eating and sorts.

We are proud members of our house and neighbourhood. Eververybody is standing his ground.

We wish the new pope every success with his endeavours.
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they are singing in latin.

In latin "lucifer" is the word for Lightbringer.

Case closed.
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Catholic idiot.

What will it EVER take for you to come out of Babylon?
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they are singing in latin.

In latin "lucifer" is the word for Lightbringer.

Case closed.
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Catholic idiot.

What will it EVER take for you to come out of Babylon?
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Catholic idiot? Why don't you pull your head out of your ass you Protestant freak with your Martin Luther lunacy. Why does Crowley, a satanist. like and praise Luther so much. You people are whacked in the fucking head. 2000 years of Dogma versus your freakish and satanic few hundreds year. May G_d have mercey on your souls.
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The Roman Catholic Church is an apostate abomination.
It is NOT the Body of Christ (the redeemed),
but an evil institution that has been ruled over by
Lucifer and his minions from the beginning.

It's history is vile and bloody, and today
it is the breeding ground for sodomite priests.

It's doctrines are anti-christ, and despicable
anti-Biblical superstition.

If you find yourself in that mess, run for your life.
Your eternal destiny depends on it.
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And yet, it's the ONLY place where the Body and Blood of Christ resides (per the Bible) -- notwithstanding the flawed members in her ranks.
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John said .....in the beginning was the word and the word was made flesh


when Jesus said you must eat my flesh and drink my blood he was saying you must eat the Word.....

In other words......you must daily partake in personnel communion with him by reading the Holy Scripture

you Catholics have eyes but you do not see ...you have ears but you don't hear .....because you are carnally minded and Christ was spiritually minded

if in the catholic communion the bread literally becomes the flesh body of Jesus Christ then God would be requiring us humans to literally eat the human flesh body of Jesus Christ ...... that would be an abomination and akin to the old ancient pagan religions

.....

if the Catholic Church only had 500 followers and they only had one church let's say in Wyoming ....then the world would see them as a cult because of their heretical doctrines ......but because so many people haven fallen for their satanic doctrines .... The whole world wonders aft the Beast
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Is that why many of his disciples walked away from him at this hard teaching?
This was the hard teaching? To pray and read the word? Something doesn't add up here.
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You should learn to read.

2 Peter 3:15-16 KJV
And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

[16] As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

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1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

"The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous
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I'm starting to conclude, after years of sporadic research and hours of videos, that WWIII will soon be upon us. It seems to me like there will be an epic war between religions, in which they are destroyed, giving rise to a NWO.

Will Rome be destroyed? I don't know. The top video in the thread states a meteor will destroy Rome. Could the Russian meteorite have been just a signal, or perhaps something to subconsciously placate the people into accepting that meteor strikes are a reality? I don't know.
Will the USA be financially destroyed and bogged down by civil war during the conflict? I don't know.

What I do know is that the USA has hundreds of thousands of casket liners in strategic locations.
Hundreds of FEMA camps.
Millions of guns.
Trillions of debt.
An oppressive government.
The Eurozone is doomed.
The last pope is upon us as per St Malachy.
The Mayan date of doom has just been reached.
A frigging big rock just exploded over Russia.
China and Japan have unfinished business.
Terrorists backed by the West are trying to oust a democratically elected leader in Syria - many more have already been ousted or killed in North Africa and Eastern Europe.
The bible speaks of more space rocks blasting us to pieces.
The prophecy of MOTHER SHIPTON also sounds like the current world events.
Argentina wants The Falklands back.
China wants Taiwan.
North Korea have nukes.
Iran is being bullied, but she packs one hell of a military.
We have a DOOMSDAY seed vault.
Major nations worldwide have built many dozens of secret bunkers (known as DUMB's in the USA).
I could write all night, but it's my bed time and I need a pooh badly. But don't forget what Albert Pike said and it all makes sense. And read mother shiptons prophecy.
nn.
If you tolerate this your children will be next.
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This is UN-FUCK-BELIVEABLE:


ille, inquam, Lúcifer, qui nescit occásum.
Christus Fílius tuus,
qui, regréssus ab ínferis, humáno géneri serénus illúxit,



No possible justification.

Period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30317398


Google translate:

he, I say, O Lucifer, who does not know the going down thereof.
Your Son, who, returning from hell, serenely shone forth upon the human race.

[link to translate.google.com]
 Quoting: RockHall



And by the way, he is referring to the devil tempting mankind and the demons that follow him. He is not praising satan...he is referring to the AC trying to remove man from G_d. Protestant, Baptist, or whatever you want to call yourselves try to make up everything crazy to attack the True Church!

Read the Gospel, they will 'try' to 'divide' His Church, but they will never succeed. The gates of hell will not prevail not its mercenaries!
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This is UN-FUCK-BELIVEABLE:


ille, inquam, Lúcifer, qui nescit occásum.
Christus Fílius tuus,
qui, regréssus ab ínferis, humáno géneri serénus illúxit,



No possible justification.

Period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30317398


Google translate:

he, I say, O Lucifer, who does not know the going down thereof.
Your Son, who, returning from hell, serenely shone forth upon the human race.

[link to translate.google.com]
 Quoting: RockHall



And by the way, he is referring to the devil tempting mankind and the demons that follow him. He is not praising satan...he is referring to the AC trying to remove man from G_d. Protestant, Baptist, or whatever you want to call yourselves try to make up everything crazy to attack the True Church!

Read the Gospel, they will 'try' to 'divide' His Church, but they will never succeed. The gates of hell will not prevail not its mercenaries!
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This is UN-FUCK-BELIVEABLE:


ille, inquam, Lúcifer, qui nescit occásum.
Christus Fílius tuus,
qui, regréssus ab ínferis, humáno géneri serénus illúxit,



No possible justification.

Period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30317398


Google translate:

he, I say, O Lucifer, who does not know the going down thereof.
Your Son, who, returning from hell, serenely shone forth upon the human race.

[link to translate.google.com]
 Quoting: RockHall



And by the way, he is referring to the devil tempting mankind and the demons that follow him. He is not praising satan...he is referring to the AC trying to remove man from G_d. Protestant, Baptist, or whatever you want to call yourselves try to make up everything crazy to attack the True Church!

Read the Gospel, they will 'try' to 'divide' His Church, but they will never succeed. The gates of hell will not prevail not its mercenaries!
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Here is the Exsultet sang during Easter Vigil
high Mass when we light candles waiting for
the Light of the World, Christ Jesus:
Complete 1962 and 1975 (final verse changed)
in Latin and English:
[link to www.preces-latinae.org]

^^^^Read it for yourself !^^^^


Catholic Encyclopedia
The name Lucifer originally denotes the planet Venus, emphasizing its brilliance. The Vulgate employs the word also for "the light of the morning" (Job 11:17), "the signs of the zodiac" (Job 38:32), and "the aurora" (Psalm 109:3). Metaphorically, the word is applied to the King of Babylon (Isaiah 14:12) as preeminent among the princes of his time; to the high priest Simon son of Onias (Ecclesiasticus 50:6), for his surpassing virtue, to the glory of heaven (Apocalypse 2:28), by reason of its excellency; finally to Jesus Christ himself (2 Peter 1:19; Apocalypse 22:16; the "Exultet" of Holy Saturday) the true light of our spiritual life.

The Syriac version and the version of Aquila derive the Hebrew noun helel from the verb yalal, "to lament"; St. Jerome agrees with them (In Isaiah 1.14), and makes Lucifer the name of the principal fallen angel who must lament the loss of his original glory bright as the morning star. In Christian tradition this meaning of Lucifer has prevailed; the Fathers maintain that Lucifer is not the proper name of the devil, but denotes only the state from which he has fallen (Petavius, De Angelis, III, iii, 4).
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Lucifer is not the proper name of the devil, but denotes only the state from which he has fallen (Petavius, De Angelis, III, iii, 4). ... So in laymans terms, you are saying his name was Lucifer when he was on the good side and after "God" cast him out, then his name changed to satan or the devil etc ...
Essentially he was known as Lucifer while he was in Heaven but after being cast down to earth..?, he then became satan/devil/beezelbub or whatever ...please and thank you
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"lucifer" became the "adversary" and "accusor" Satan
after his Rebellion against God, and those of the Heavenly
host who sided with he and were cast down ceased to be angels, but became demons. Such as Beelzebub, Moloch, etc.
Demonologists and Church Fathers, Theologians, Mystics,
etc are not in full total agreement on exactly how "elevated" or "powerful", to speak in such terms, this
angel was before he rebelled. At least as powerful as
Michael, Raphael, and Gabriel individually. He seems
more powerful to us here because he lives here now,
among the Earth and in the air which surrounds the Earth.
"lucifer" is more of a former condition than an actual
name. The Exsultet above, if anyone reads my link to it,
[link to www.preces-latinae.org]
is not referring to "Satan" at all, it is referring to the
morning star Venus which is bright to be seen just before sunrise, that the morning star "find it" meaning
the eternal flame in our candles, held in anticipation of the Resurrection and symbolizing Christ's triumphant journey conquering Death at the Dawn of the Paschal Feast known in English as "Easter",
The "night" is blessed only because it is the actual
eve of The Resurrection. We hold Mass at Midnight
called the Easter Vigil which is when this Exsultet
can be sung.
Ending according to the 1975 Missal:
O truly blessed night, in which heaven is united to earth, and God to man!
We beseech thee therefore, O Lord, that this candle, consecrated to the honor of thy name, may continue burning to dissipate the darkness this night. And being accepted as a sweet savor, may be united with the celestial lights. Let the morning star find it alight, that star which never sets: Christ Thy Son, who came back from hell, and shone with brightness on mankind, and who liveth and reigneth for ever and ever. Amen.

case closed. lucifer is merely the luminous star.
Before Satan rebelled, he was a luminous bright
Angel, one of the earliest created angels, one
who was near the Very Throne of God. So always
know this Devil is no longer an angel at all, any
reference to the Devil as "lucifer" is totally in
the past tense as to his former condition only.

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Read the messages from Jesus.

[link to www.thewarningsecondcoming.com]

He told us the Pope would be ousted a year ago. He also said that the Vatican was infiltrated by evil......the Masons.

Jesus told us that Pope Benedict XVI is His loyal and faithful servant surrounded by evil

The next Pope will be the false prophet.
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don't know what to make of that
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Well for starters, if you look at the logo on that page you see an idol, if you had read your Bible you would know that crucifixes, icons, statues etc. of Jesus are strictly forbidden, another fact is that this idolworshiping heresy came in around 300 AD, so we have some people 270 years after Jesus returns to heaven start making pictures, statues etc. of a person they have never seen and of whom there are no clear description of in the Bible starting making pictures.

All that is is a money making scam and a way to make people sin. A guy that claims to know so much about the Bible as that link does sure could not have missed at least 100 verses that forbids the practice of making and worshiping idols, yet here he is having these same idols on the front of his webpage.

You can rest assured it's a lie or a trick. Someone is out to deceive people.
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I completely agree with you.
The part about making claims, absent witness to anything.
Making false claims.

So would that not apply to everything religion related, I mean given "mans" HIStory, he has tainted everything he has touched, EVERYTHING.

Yet everyone religious claims and follows the exact same process, religion was once forbidden to commoners and peasants, what makes anyone think the TRUTH would be out anywhere for anyone of us to find or CONceive?

Is there God or Creator or such without religion?

PLEASE don't answer me with Jesus and the book says ... that is exactly what I am talking about.
There is no man given pathway to the truth, we honestly must say without FAITH, we do not know.

None of us were present when any such book was written, compiled, changed, translated, stolen, created, mis-translated or proofed.

Please understand religious people, I am not ever going to knock or take away from your honest, true love for God.
Reality though tells me, are we not perhaps drinking from tainted waters?

I genuinely seek God/higher being/Creator in everything good and mosty TRUTH, truth of origin, creation and the idea there may never really be a true utopian society, however I can not claim as many do, false witness because it was man made and handed to me in a leather bound cover.
Is there God without religion?


Peace, love and the TRUTH.
I seek.
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see above, and open your mind to the possibility that we are intentionally being mislead.
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Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.


Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

What are the commandments of God?

1.
Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

2.
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

3.
Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

4.
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

5.
Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.

6.
Thou shalt not kill.

7.
Thou shalt not commit adultery.

8.
Thou shalt not steal.

9.
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

10.
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
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someone kept mentioning the Vatican's showing off their wealth. I never see this. There is not a lot of wealth to speak of. We know the saying "more money than the pope," but that is all it is. Most of the wealth of the Vatican is its possession of artworks throughout the centuries. This and all liquidated assets are actually controlled by Rothschild. This is the same family who owns Israel, who is setting up Jerusalem for THEIR messiah. The Vatican has been infiltrated but it not the BIG BOY. Most Catholics are good, altruistic people.

John 8:44
Revelation 2:9
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You are deluding yourself if you think rothschilds have more power than the powers behind rome that have been around for thousands of years. Rothschilds are late comers to the game.
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Rev. 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

BBC News - Ariel Sharon: Israeli ex-PM in coma 'has brain activity'
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Someone on this page made a very interesting point. Lucifer was known as Lucifer in Heaven...was close to the throne of God, etc.

But then he arrogantly thought he would be like The Most High.

When Jesus refers to him, he does not call him Lucifer. THat was his past state while with God. Jesus instead refers to him as the Devil.

Interesting.
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I'm
Ashamed to be a Catholic, which I'm really not. Just by birth.
I'm non denominational for sure.
Wtf is it with this fkng cult.....
For shame!
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you should be ashamed.... its better to be poor and living in a total shit hole, shopping the thrift stores and ridiculed by those that think they are 'somebody'..... than to be a person or member of a family that aligns themselves with a religion or organization that Forces people to become actual shit holes themselves, (just because its what everybody else does, and For THe MOney and power of course)
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Great thread. 5*smile_kisssmile_kisssmile_kisssmile_kisssmile_kiss
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I am pulling my hair out and fretting, running from one church to another, to just the scriptures, for answers.
All churches seem wrong. Here is the history:

I read the Bible all the time and loved Jesus so much. One day I asked him to please send me the Holy Spirit.

Later that evening in bed I felt like all of a sudden a pillar was shoved up my back all the way to my brain.

The next day I could see spirits in everything and God would give me answers in the Bible to questions I had.
Generally.

When I asked why was Lucifer a morning star and Jesus too, I never understood. Also, I never understood why Jesus said he had given the disicples his Father's Word, and his Father's name, but I could not find him naming his Father in the whole new testament.

Why did Jesus never name his Father?
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After the song they were invited to snacks and boys 5a