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The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. | |
| NHG:Neo-Hunter-Gatherer User ID: 247684  United States02/25/2013 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35088484  United Kingdom02/25/2013 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. those 'happy' times you're so fond of were actually a DAILY struggle for life, what with the hunt for food, water, the constant looking over your shoulder for rival tribes and hunters, and the fight against competing predators for food, and your own survival rose specs OFF, i'd suggest |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 247684 United States02/25/2013 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. those 'happy' times you're so fond of were actually a DAILY struggle for life, what with the hunt for food, water, the constant looking over your shoulder for rival tribes and hunters, and the fight against competing predators for food, and your own survival Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35088484 rose specs OFF, i'd suggest Actually just study the Hadza of Tanzania. They like their life and are totally FREE from gov./law/taxes/religion. They have done this successfully for over 10,000 years. They work less hours per day than we do. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 247684 United States02/25/2013 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Hadza are happy, free, and cannot be rounded up because they know how to "disappear" into their environment. May I remind you that only in the WEST for 1 billion people is current "progress" life not completely miserable. The other 6 billion trapped in the current system are slaves. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 247684 United States02/25/2013 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. Advantages of HG: 1)Increased well-being, each person doing his own work to survive. 2) Less war, nomadic patterns mean that groups find their space with less argument, also less population makes it work 3) No taxes 4) No written laws 5) No formal religions/personal religions only 6) freedom of mind, body, spirit 7) longevity into 60's 8) no waste disposal problems 9) egalitarian system 10) no slavery/ wage slavery or other 11) decreased disease because NO CROWDING OF PEOPLE 12) no pollution problems 13) each person knows his complete "survival trade" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35142993 Serbia02/25/2013 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. Advantages of HG: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 247684 1)Increased well-being, each person doing his own work to survive. 2) Less war, nomadic patterns mean that groups find their space with less argument, also less population makes it work 3) No taxes 4) No written laws 5) No formal religions/personal religions only 6) freedom of mind, body, spirit 7) longevity into 60's 8) no waste disposal problems 9) egalitarian system 10) no slavery/ wage slavery or other 11) decreased disease because NO CROWDING OF PEOPLE 12) no pollution problems 13) each person knows his complete "survival trade" Yep. Tribe is the healthiest form of society. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35142993 Serbia02/25/2013 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. The only problem is that when agriculture was developed it basically made working folks a stationary target and this led to them being used by those who did not want to do work but still wanted the crops. True, also. Hunting and agriculture don't get along very well. Both need vast territory, either to hunt or raise crops. Depending on the size of a tribe, or village. The Cain and Abel story was probably based on this problem... Still, either is better than polishing your CV and praying to god some idiot likes the way you enter and shake hands. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 247684 United States02/25/2013 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. People romanticizing the stone age life usually have no clue this life style can only support a very limited population, but you got it right, so +1 for that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300884 Thanks. Also, I would add that currently for many workers in southeast Asia (and many other places) their entire life has been one misery after another, they are not romanticizing at all about industrial life. They are being used to the maximum and then they die short lives. |
thisguyistheguy  User ID: 1266452  Canada02/25/2013 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. We're only as strong as our weakest link. And today, we have a shit load of weak links! ------ Hard times create strong men Strong men create good times Good times create weak men Weak men create hard times |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 247684 United States02/25/2013 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. We're only as strong as our weakest link. Quoting: thisguyistheguy And today, we have a shit load of weak links! Yes, and we have large numbers who are at the TOP who do very little work (they are weak except for holding the levers), but they manipulate the world to "gather" goodies they don't deserve. Some at the TOP are hard workers, but they work to "manipulate the system", and some at the TOP are good hard workers. |
| thisguyistheguy User ID: 1266452 Canada02/25/2013 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. We're only as strong as our weakest link. Quoting: thisguyistheguy And today, we have a shit load of weak links! Yes, and we have large numbers who are at the TOP who do very little work (they are weak except for holding the levers), but they manipulate the world to "gather" goodies they don't deserve. Some at the TOP are hard workers, but they work to "manipulate the system", and some at the TOP are good hard workers. Survival of the fittest turned into survival of birth passage. ------ Hard times create strong men Strong men create good times Good times create weak men Weak men create hard times |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35142993 Serbia02/25/2013 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. We're only as strong as our weakest link. Quoting: thisguyistheguy And today, we have a shit load of weak links! Because today many women have more balls then men do. So they have to buy plastic ones, and keep them in their purses. While guys race on heels and think they're cool for not being men. Kids are being raised on MSM, violence in schools, moronic music and blood thirsty video games... The best you can do is try and go back to nature on your own, being self-sufficient again. Society will never 'wake up'. It's a myth. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 247684 United States02/25/2013 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. We're only as strong as our weakest link. Quoting: thisguyistheguy And today, we have a shit load of weak links! Yes, and we have large numbers who are at the TOP who do very little work (they are weak except for holding the levers), but they manipulate the world to "gather" goodies they don't deserve. Some at the TOP are hard workers, but they work to "manipulate the system", and some at the TOP are good hard workers. Survival of the fittest turned into survival of birth passage. Yes, and that would not be possible in an H/G set-up because if someone did not like the rules they would be trained to go off (maybe several do with him/her) and he/she could not be "bound" there. |
| thisguyistheguy User ID: 1266452 Canada02/25/2013 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. We're only as strong as our weakest link. Quoting: thisguyistheguy And today, we have a shit load of weak links! Because today many women have more balls then men do. So they have to buy plastic ones, and keep them in their purses. While guys race on heels and think they're cool for not being men. Kids are being raised on MSM, violence in schools, moronic music and blood thirsty video games... The best you can do is try and go back to nature on your own, being self-sufficient again. Society will never 'wake up'. It's a myth. I agree with society not waking up. I disagree that women have more balls - maybe it's because men are turning into just pansies due to what the media tells us to become. I don't think anyone has more balls than me, but thats because I stopped giving a shit about what anyone else does with their life....And started living my own. Perhaps we care too much about fitting in, and not enough about finding ourselves. ------ Hard times create strong men Strong men create good times Good times create weak men Weak men create hard times |
| thisguyistheguy User ID: 1266452 Canada02/25/2013 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. We're only as strong as our weakest link. Quoting: thisguyistheguy And today, we have a shit load of weak links! Yes, and we have large numbers who are at the TOP who do very little work (they are weak except for holding the levers), but they manipulate the world to "gather" goodies they don't deserve. Some at the TOP are hard workers, but they work to "manipulate the system", and some at the TOP are good hard workers. Survival of the fittest turned into survival of birth passage. Yes, and that would not be possible in an H/G set-up because if someone did not like the rules they would be trained to go off (maybe several do with him/her) and he/she could not be "bound" there. And the weak would actually parish. The weak could no longer take 10% of my lumber, 20% of my meat, and 15% of my gold/silver. ------ Hard times create strong men Strong men create good times Good times create weak men Weak men create hard times |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 247684 United States02/25/2013 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. We're only as strong as our weakest link. Quoting: thisguyistheguy And today, we have a shit load of weak links! Because today many women have more balls then men do. So they have to buy plastic ones, and keep them in their purses. While guys race on heels and think they're cool for not being men. Kids are being raised on MSM, violence in schools, moronic music and blood thirsty video games... The best you can do is try and go back to nature on your own, being self-sufficient again. Society will never 'wake up'. It's a myth. At some point they may be forced to wake up if we are indeed in a "progress trap" that is collapsing. Ag/City set-up is what Kings loved. They could then manipulate a "stationary kingdom" and people/serfs were "bound" by their farm/trade there, etc. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 247684 United States02/25/2013 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 247684 Yes, and we have large numbers who are at the TOP who do very little work (they are weak except for holding the levers), but they manipulate the world to "gather" goodies they don't deserve. Some at the TOP are hard workers, but they work to "manipulate the system", and some at the TOP are good hard workers. Survival of the fittest turned into survival of birth passage. Yes, and that would not be possible in an H/G set-up because if someone did not like the rules they would be trained to go off (maybe several do with him/her) and he/she could not be "bound" there. And the weak would actually parish. The weak could no longer take 10% of my lumber, 20% of my meat, and 15% of my gold/silver. Exactly! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35142993 Serbia02/25/2013 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. We're only as strong as our weakest link. Quoting: thisguyistheguy And today, we have a shit load of weak links! Because today many women have more balls then men do. So they have to buy plastic ones, and keep them in their purses. While guys race on heels and think they're cool for not being men. Kids are being raised on MSM, violence in schools, moronic music and blood thirsty video games... The best you can do is try and go back to nature on your own, being self-sufficient again. Society will never 'wake up'. It's a myth. At some point they may be forced to wake up if we are indeed in a "progress trap" that is collapsing. Ag/City set-up is what Kings loved. They could then manipulate a "stationary kingdom" and people/serfs were "bound" by their farm/trade there, etc. Many things could be improved and made better for all. But there is no will... the ones in power use what they can and have to gain even more control. I doubt they're doing it for themselves. By now we figured that all top dogs have beliefs of their own. So it's for the 'higher cause'... I try not to worry about stuff too much. I have no more than 20-30 years to go. Considering the garbage I eat, could be even less. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 247684 United States02/25/2013 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. We're only as strong as our weakest link. Quoting: thisguyistheguy And today, we have a shit load of weak links! Because today many women have more balls then men do. So they have to buy plastic ones, and keep them in their purses. While guys race on heels and think they're cool for not being men. Kids are being raised on MSM, violence in schools, moronic music and blood thirsty video games... The best you can do is try and go back to nature on your own, being self-sufficient again. Society will never 'wake up'. It's a myth. At some point they may be forced to wake up if we are indeed in a "progress trap" that is collapsing. Ag/City set-up is what Kings loved. They could then manipulate a "stationary kingdom" and people/serfs were "bound" by their farm/trade there, etc. Many things could be improved and made better for all. But there is no will... the ones in power use what they can and have to gain even more control. I doubt they're doing it for themselves. By now we figured that all top dogs have beliefs of their own. So it's for the 'higher cause'... I try not to worry about stuff too much. I have no more than 20-30 years to go. Considering the garbage I eat, could be even less. The current system has turned into an uncontrollable machine that is consuming itself now and vibrating out of control. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35142993 Serbia02/25/2013 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35142993 Because today many women have more balls then men do. So they have to buy plastic ones, and keep them in their purses. While guys race on heels and think they're cool for not being men. Kids are being raised on MSM, violence in schools, moronic music and blood thirsty video games... The best you can do is try and go back to nature on your own, being self-sufficient again. Society will never 'wake up'. It's a myth. At some point they may be forced to wake up if we are indeed in a "progress trap" that is collapsing. Ag/City set-up is what Kings loved. They could then manipulate a "stationary kingdom" and people/serfs were "bound" by their farm/trade there, etc. Many things could be improved and made better for all. But there is no will... the ones in power use what they can and have to gain even more control. I doubt they're doing it for themselves. By now we figured that all top dogs have beliefs of their own. So it's for the 'higher cause'... I try not to worry about stuff too much. I have no more than 20-30 years to go. Considering the garbage I eat, could be even less. The current system has turned into an uncontrollable machine that is consuming itself now and vibrating out of control. It may well be our perception (being at the bottom of pyramid), but I'm sure their hearts are bursting with pride. The worse - the better. Degenerate everything, intimidate, bribe and remove. They've got enough money, whores and asassins to do their bidding. Glamorous, but still pathetic. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1136710 United States02/25/2013 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. Why do you keep insisting that hunter-gatherers "did their own work"? Men hunted in groups and shared the spoils, women gathered in groups and processed together what they got, they had their sewing circles, habitats were built communally, and so on. The most natural society is probably a socialist group of about 100 people. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 247684 United States02/25/2013 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. Why do you keep insisting that hunter-gatherers "did their own work"? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1136710 Men hunted in groups and shared the spoils, women gathered in groups and processed together what they got, they had their sewing circles, habitats were built communally, and so on. The most natural society is probably a socialist group of about 100 people. If you did not help and do your share you would be cast out. Each did their own work based on their knowledge level or how old they were, how much they had learned. The Hadza raise their children to be able to leave any group whose rules they don't agree with. They can take off by themselves or bring their mate and children with them, etc. In order to do this, one needs to know how to take care of their every need. Yes, the work is divided usually male/female work, but there is crossover if need be. They know how to live alone if they need to go into hiding, etc. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 247684 United States02/25/2013 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. Why do you keep insisting that hunter-gatherers "did their own work"? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1136710 Men hunted in groups and shared the spoils, women gathered in groups and processed together what they got, they had their sewing circles, habitats were built communally, and so on. The most natural society is probably a socialist group of about 100 people. If you did not help and do your share you would be cast out. Each did their own work based on their knowledge level or how old they were, how much they had learned. The Hadza raise their children to be able to leave any group whose rules they don't agree with. They can take off by themselves or bring their mate and children with them, etc. In order to do this, one needs to know how to take care of their every need. Yes, the work is divided usually male/female work, but there is crossover if need be. They know how to live alone if they need to go into hiding, etc. By doing your own work = no slackers allowed |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 203360 United States02/25/2013 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: The last time humanity was happy and in tune with people and the Earth was in the "Hunter-Gatherer" time. You realize many of these ancient peoples also practiced human sacrifice and cannibalism. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29251194 Our current industrial society practices human sacrifice on a large scale, it's in the form of working slave workers to death. The eastern slave workers are sacrificed for the WEST standard of living. They are dying from work, literally. We are actually "eating" their life essence in the form of our over-consumerism and improper demands for easy living. That is indirect cannibalism. |
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