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" “Now learn from the fig tree as an illustration this point: Just as soon as its young branch grows tender and it puts forth leaves, YOU know that summer is near. 33 Likewise also YOU, when YOU see all these things, know that he is near at the doors. 34 Truly I say to YOU that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will by no means pass away.
36 “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. 38 For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; 39 and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be. 40 Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken along and the other be abandoned; 41 two women will be grinding at the hand mill: one will be taken along and the other be abandoned. 42 Keep on the watch, therefore, because YOU do not know on what day YOUR Lord is coming." Mt24:32
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Your last chance, coming very soon, is the Warning. Don't wait until then. Do all you can NOW so that the warning might be at least easier on you.

Consider ALL prophecy, religious and secular, and you will see, you MUST prepare now. Te Warning IS your LAST chance, for some it may be too hard to bear and will be the end.
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9teen You should be ready today. WHEN WILL THE RAPTURE BE?

Basically I think that there is only one correct answer and that is... today. Note that there are two classes of the blessed. Class I Those who are dead in Christ. Class II Those who are alive in Christ.

Now someone who is in Class I was obviously at some time in the past a member of Class II. Non of us can guarantee that we will still be drawing breath at this time tomorrow. So this is not a matter that you can comfortably "put off". As is the common human tendency when faced with a decision. In fact putting it off is in fact a decision in and of it's self. You might be blessed with a little more time, but don't count on it. The risks and consequences of dying in your sins are just to great. All of us are skating on thin ice.



1Th 4:13 ¶ But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

WHERE DID THEY GO?...

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Your last chance, coming very soon, is the Warning. Don't wait until then. Do all you can NOW so that the warning might be at least easier on you.

Consider ALL prophecy, religious and secular, and you will see, you MUST prepare now. Te Warning IS your LAST chance, for some it may be too hard to bear and will be the end.
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Right, there will be no 'last call' because it would draw people seeking God to serve their purpose. He is searching only for those who will serve his purpose.
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WHERE DID THEY GO?...

 Quoting: 9teen

Since the dead are resurrected first (as in Eze:37) how would people not be able to see that start and then repent and be part of the 1,000 year reign by the skin of their teeth? For the 'rest of us' our duties are the same in the last 3 1/2 years as they have been all along (with various degrees of success)

1Pe:4:12:
Beloved,
think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you,
as though some strange thing happened unto you:
1Pe:4:13:
But rejoice,
inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings;
that,
when his glory shall be revealed,
ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
1Pe:4:14:
If ye be reproached for the name of Christ,
happy are ye;
for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you:
on their part he is evil spoken of,
but on your part he is glorified.
1Pe:4:15:
But let none of you suffer as a murderer,
or as a thief,
or as an evildoer,
or as a busybody in other men's matters.

1Pe:4:16:
Yet if any man suffer as a Christian,
let him not be ashamed;
but let him glorify God on this behalf.
1Pe:4:17:
For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God:
and if it first begin at us,
what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
1Pe:4:18:
And if the righteous scarcely be saved,
where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

The cut-off point is the end of the 2nd woe and the beginning of the 3rd. The last event is the man of sin sitting on a throne in Jerusalem in a Temple claiming to be God. The ones who give glory to God in the last few verses of Re:11 are the ones in Judea who have been passing gifts back and forth for 4 days and then the demand for worship comes or death. The 7,000 that die will be the 1st from mankind that would do that so God kills them rather than let that happen. The ones that witness that are the ones who should be doing the running and not stopping. The ones who do run away fast enough are the ones who witness the destruction of the city in 1 hour and a few hours later the 7th vial is the one being poured out and that earthquake is the same in in Zec:14 and the valley created holds a river that is more than 2 miles wide (Eze:47) and the graveyard in Eze:39.

1/2 hour of silence then the House of Prayer is built and then the 144,000 that witnesses the earthquake from the top of the mountain north of the Sea of Galilee where Moses and Elias were seen in a vision so the words in Zec:14 would be from their viewpoint as to how big Christ is. In that scale the 200M angelic horsemen would be trampled under his feet rather than His sword being used. That is used on the sinners of the world starting at Jerusalem but traveling around the globe.

They and the ones in the clouds would land at the temple courtyard and that would be the 2 witnesses and then any Prophet or Apostle and then their followers and then the remainder that are destined to be resurrected to life. The 12 tribes are in Re:4 through the 'beheaded for the word of God' in that all but the 144,000 will visit the grave like Jesus did before they are gathered. A period not less than 3 days and 3 nights. By specifying the 12 tribes He also includes all their relatives so that dates back to Abraham's days. Gentiles must then date back Adam unless the 12 stars the 1st woman has represents the 12 oldest people in the Bible as being the Elders. They would have been resurrected when Jesus was and Adam (and Eve) would be there leading them.

On the return they are the ones given crowns so they also have thrones and all other people there are 'starting day1 of 360,000 days before they know enough to be qualified to be priests (12 Tribes) and kings (Church) to all the sinners that are gathered at the GWT when all their punishment periods come to an end. God offers them a drink of the same water that the ones who were alive for the 1,000 years got. For them it was being resurrected in the land of Israel if you were a member of the 12 Tribes and then walking to the river in Eze:47 and Jeremiah 31. That is how they get the glorification that Jesus got between dawn and later that same day. For the Church they walk there starting after Israel is fully resurrected, evening the same day it starts. That could be the extension in some numbers given in Daniel. Without checking the 1335 might be the number of days that takes after the 1260 days of tribulation takes. The other one that is 'off is the 1290 days and that extra 30 days should belong to before the 1260 days of tribulation takes. In that 30 days the sealing of 144,000 and some repented Gentiles takes place and the 1st 4 trumps will unfold.

Not a whole lot to back that up as they are straggler verses. Like the dating in Isa:65 and the 120 years from Genesis 6, together they relay some 'possible' knowledge, separated they mean very little.
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WHERE DID THEY GO?...

 Quoting: 9teen

Since the dead are resurrected first (as in Eze:37) how would people not be able to see that start and then repent and be part of the 1,000 year reign by the skin of their teeth? For the 'rest of us' our duties are the same in the last 3 1/2 years as they have been all along (with various degrees of success)

1Pe:4:12:
Beloved,
think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you,
as though some strange thing happened unto you:
1Pe:4:13:
But rejoice,
inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings;
that,
when his glory shall be revealed,
ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
1Pe:4:14:
If ye be reproached for the name of Christ,
happy are ye;
for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you:
on their part he is evil spoken of,
but on your part he is glorified.
1Pe:4:15:
But let none of you suffer as a murderer,
or as a thief,
or as an evildoer,
or as a busybody in other men's matters.

1Pe:4:16:
Yet if any man suffer as a Christian,
let him not be ashamed;
but let him glorify God on this behalf.
1Pe:4:17:
For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God:
and if it first begin at us,
what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
1Pe:4:18:
And if the righteous scarcely be saved,
where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

The cut-off point is the end of the 2nd woe and the beginning of the 3rd. The last event is the man of sin sitting on a throne in Jerusalem in a Temple claiming to be God. The ones who give glory to God in the last few verses of Re:11 are the ones in Judea who have been passing gifts back and forth for 4 days and then the demand for worship comes or death. The 7,000 that die will be the 1st from mankind that would do that so God kills them rather than let that happen. The ones that witness that are the ones who should be doing the running and not stopping. The ones who do run away fast enough are the ones who witness the destruction of the city in 1 hour and a few hours later the 7th vial is the one being poured out and that earthquake is the same in in Zec:14 and the valley created holds a river that is more than 2 miles wide (Eze:47) and the graveyard in Eze:39.

1/2 hour of silence then the House of Prayer is built and then the 144,000 that witnesses the earthquake from the top of the mountain north of the Sea of Galilee where Moses and Elias were seen in a vision so the words in Zec:14 would be from their viewpoint as to how big Christ is. In that scale the 200M angelic horsemen would be trampled under his feet rather than His sword being used. That is used on the sinners of the world starting at Jerusalem but traveling around the globe.

They and the ones in the clouds would land at the temple courtyard and that would be the 2 witnesses and then any Prophet or Apostle and then their followers and then the remainder that are destined to be resurrected to life. The 12 tribes are in Re:4 through the 'beheaded for the word of God' in that all but the 144,000 will visit the grave like Jesus did before they are gathered. A period not less than 3 days and 3 nights. By specifying the 12 tribes He also includes all their relatives so that dates back to Abraham's days. Gentiles must then date back Adam unless the 12 stars the 1st woman has represents the 12 oldest people in the Bible as being the Elders. They would have been resurrected when Jesus was and Adam (and Eve) would be there leading them.

On the return they are the ones given crowns so they also have thrones and all other people there are 'starting day1 of 360,000 days before they know enough to be qualified to be priests (12 Tribes) and kings (Church) to all the sinners that are gathered at the GWT when all their punishment periods come to an end. God offers them a drink of the same water that the ones who were alive for the 1,000 years got. For them it was being resurrected in the land of Israel if you were a member of the 12 Tribes and then walking to the river in Eze:47 and Jeremiah 31. That is how they get the glorification that Jesus got between dawn and later that same day. For the Church they walk there starting after Israel is fully resurrected, evening the same day it starts. That could be the extension in some numbers given in Daniel. Without checking the 1335 might be the number of days that takes after the 1260 days of tribulation takes. The other one that is 'off is the 1290 days and that extra 30 days should belong to before the 1260 days of tribulation takes. In that 30 days the sealing of 144,000 and some repented Gentiles takes place and the 1st 4 trumps will unfold.

Not a whole lot to back that up as they are straggler verses. Like the dating in Isa:65 and the 120 years from Genesis 6, together they relay some 'possible' knowledge, separated they mean very little.
 Quoting: MHz

as soon as I saw about the man of sin on a throne i gave up.
TELL ME THIS PLEASE!the Holy Bible says the HUMAN BODY is the TEMPLE so why do you ALL say that the temple that the man of sin sits in is NOT a human body.Secondly the Holy Bible says CLEARLY that Jesus became a CURSE that HE bore sin IN HIS BODY that HE was DECREED by God to be sin and if you actually read it you will see many more references so PLEASE tell me why you think the MAN OF SIN is satan when in fact it is JESUS!Why do you twist Scripture and then say I twist it?READ Zech3.that is about Jesus in the paroussia in the 2nd coming.When He wore filthy garments.He was the man of sin.
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WHERE DID THEY GO?...

 Quoting: 9teen

Since the dead are resurrected first (as in Eze:37) how would people not be able to see that start and then repent and be part of the 1,000 year reign by the skin of their teeth? For the 'rest of us' our duties are the same in the last 3 1/2 years as they have been all along (with various degrees of success)

1Pe:4:12:
Beloved,
think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you,
as though some strange thing happened unto you:
1Pe:4:13:
But rejoice,
inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings;
that,
when his glory shall be revealed,
ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
1Pe:4:14:
If ye be reproached for the name of Christ,
happy are ye;
for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you:
on their part he is evil spoken of,
but on your part he is glorified.
1Pe:4:15:
But let none of you suffer as a murderer,
or as a thief,
or as an evildoer,
or as a busybody in other men's matters.

1Pe:4:16:
Yet if any man suffer as a Christian,
let him not be ashamed;
but let him glorify God on this behalf.
1Pe:4:17:
For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God:
and if it first begin at us,
what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
1Pe:4:18:
And if the righteous scarcely be saved,
where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

The cut-off point is the end of the 2nd woe and the beginning of the 3rd. The last event is the man of sin sitting on a throne in Jerusalem in a Temple claiming to be God. The ones who give glory to God in the last few verses of Re:11 are the ones in Judea who have been passing gifts back and forth for 4 days and then the demand for worship comes or death. The 7,000 that die will be the 1st from mankind that would do that so God kills them rather than let that happen. The ones that witness that are the ones who should be doing the running and not stopping. The ones who do run away fast enough are the ones who witness the destruction of the city in 1 hour and a few hours later the 7th vial is the one being poured out and that earthquake is the same in in Zec:14 and the valley created holds a river that is more than 2 miles wide (Eze:47) and the graveyard in Eze:39.

1/2 hour of silence then the House of Prayer is built and then the 144,000 that witnesses the earthquake from the top of the mountain north of the Sea of Galilee where Moses and Elias were seen in a vision so the words in Zec:14 would be from their viewpoint as to how big Christ is. In that scale the 200M angelic horsemen would be trampled under his feet rather than His sword being used. That is used on the sinners of the world starting at Jerusalem but traveling around the globe.

They and the ones in the clouds would land at the temple courtyard and that would be the 2 witnesses and then any Prophet or Apostle and then their followers and then the remainder that are destined to be resurrected to life. The 12 tribes are in Re:4 through the 'beheaded for the word of God' in that all but the 144,000 will visit the grave like Jesus did before they are gathered. A period not less than 3 days and 3 nights. By specifying the 12 tribes He also includes all their relatives so that dates back to Abraham's days. Gentiles must then date back Adam unless the 12 stars the 1st woman has represents the 12 oldest people in the Bible as being the Elders. They would have been resurrected when Jesus was and Adam (and Eve) would be there leading them.

On the return they are the ones given crowns so they also have thrones and all other people there are 'starting day1 of 360,000 days before they know enough to be qualified to be priests (12 Tribes) and kings (Church) to all the sinners that are gathered at the GWT when all their punishment periods come to an end. God offers them a drink of the same water that the ones who were alive for the 1,000 years got. For them it was being resurrected in the land of Israel if you were a member of the 12 Tribes and then walking to the river in Eze:47 and Jeremiah 31. That is how they get the glorification that Jesus got between dawn and later that same day. For the Church they walk there starting after Israel is fully resurrected, evening the same day it starts. That could be the extension in some numbers given in Daniel. Without checking the 1335 might be the number of days that takes after the 1260 days of tribulation takes. The other one that is 'off is the 1290 days and that extra 30 days should belong to before the 1260 days of tribulation takes. In that 30 days the sealing of 144,000 and some repented Gentiles takes place and the 1st 4 trumps will unfold.

Not a whole lot to back that up as they are straggler verses. Like the dating in Isa:65 and the 120 years from Genesis 6, together they relay some 'possible' knowledge, separated they mean very little.
 Quoting: MHz

as soon as I saw about the man of sin on a throne i gave up.
TELL ME THIS PLEASE!the Holy Bible says the HUMAN BODY is the TEMPLE so why do you ALL say that the temple that the man of sin sits in is NOT a human body.Secondly the Holy Bible says CLEARLY that Jesus became a CURSE that HE bore sin IN HIS BODY that HE was DECREED by God to be sin and if you actually read it you will see many more references so PLEASE tell me why you think the MAN OF SIN is satan when in fact it is JESUS!Why do you twist Scripture and then say I twist it?READ Zech3.that is about Jesus in the paroussia in the 2nd coming.When He wore filthy garments.He was the man of sin.
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Jesus bore the burden of our sins by providing the ransom sacrifice. To simplify this (I hope) read the following prophesy of the Man of Lawnessness, the pope:

"Let no one seduce YOU in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called “god” or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god. 5 Do YOU not remember that, while I was yet with YOU, I used to tell YOU these things?
6 And so now YOU know the thing that acts as a restraint, with a view to his being revealed in his own due time. 7 True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work; but only till he who is right now acting as a restraint gets to be out of the way. 8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence. 9 But the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 10 and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved. 11 So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness." 2Thes2

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Your last chance, coming very soon, is the Warning. Don't wait until then. Do all you can NOW so that the warning might be at least easier on you.

Consider ALL prophecy, religious and secular, and you will see, you MUST prepare now. Te Warning IS your LAST chance, for some it may be too hard to bear and will be the end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34353211


Right, there will be no 'last call' because it would draw people seeking God to serve their purpose. He is searching only for those who will serve his purpose.
 Quoting: DGN

The children of light should be able to see the prophecies unfold. the children of darkness do not have the deception exposed until they are in the middle of the vials.

1Th:5:4:
But ye,
brethren,
are not in darkness,
that that day should overtake you as a thief.
1Th:5:5:
Ye are all the children of light,
and the children of the day:
we are not of the night,
nor of darkness.

Re:9:20:
And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands,
that they should not worship devils,
and idols of gold,
and silver,
and brass,
and stone,
and of wood:
which neither can see,
nor hear,
nor walk:
Re:9:21:
Neither repented they of their murders,
nor of their sorceries,
nor of their fornication,
nor of their thefts.

The children of light see that day come is as described Re:10. Sinners (2/3 of the world) see it as Re:16 as being the 1st day if the punishment in Isa:65. The punishment is over and the GWT takes place before Jerusalem is mentioned in that chapter because the Jerusalem being referenced is the one in Re:21, a revealing that only comes after the GWT. To get in you need to be classifies as note being a liar (Re:21) so all the ones not alive for the 1,000 years would join their respective groups. Hell would join the Church, the dead would join the 12 Trbes and the Sea would join the group Adam belonged to, the 24 Elders. That get you into New Jerusalem when it is in the 3rd heaven, once it comes to the new earth the doors open and all of mankind steps out into a perfected earth so this time when Eden is restored it is eternal with immortal and sinless people and the flesh they have dominion over would know about God and Law but not about good and evil so they would be as wise as Adam and Eve were but no temptation ever comes their way. It will become their task to populate all the pastures men build for then to inhabit.

You only need to be on the first step in order to qualify for the same reward the 24 elders get. Live at the first opportunity compared to what 2nd place gets you, life at the GWT

Other than being 'bosses' getting a spot in New Jerusalem (compared to living outside the wall) should be the 'launch' facility to other locations. the end of the 'barrel' is 1500 miles from ground level and since the angels old heaven becomes the new earth we need some sort of place to 'leave from. Shot towards the sun and that is 2nd gear for an immortal and pop out of the sun at the solar system of your choice.
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as soon as I saw about the man of sin on a throne i gave up.
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Are you even against knowing a summary? Gentiles were never required to have a physical temple, instead we pray in private prayer. That is our sacrifice and out prayers make it to the same altar as the one in the Re:4 vision. It became the temple for Jews and Gentile and it is in effect until the 2 witnesses die. From there until they are resurrected prayer and worship is for Satan alone. By the time all the ones alive are the population Christ has a Tabernacle built that will be visited 1,000 times as describe in Zec:14.

De:4:29:
But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God,
thou shalt find him,
if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
De:4:30:
When thou art in tribulation,
and all these things are come upon thee,
even in the latter days,
if thou turn to the LORD thy God,
and shalt be obedient unto his voice;
De:4:31:
(For the LORD thy God is a merciful God;)
he will not forsake thee,
neither destroy thee,
nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.

Zec:6:12:
And speak unto him,
saying,
Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts,
saying,
Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH;
and he shall grow up out of his place,
and he shall build the temple of the LORD:
Zec:6:13:
Even he shall build the temple of the LORD;
and he shall bear the glory,
and shall sit and rule upon his throne;
and he shall be a priest upon his throne:
and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

Eze:47:1:
Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the house;
and,
behold,
waters issued out from under the threshold of the house eastward:
for the forefront of the house stood toward the east,
and the waters came down from under from the right side of the house,
at the south side of the altar.

The 10 Commandments cease to be the law on the day of return as the ones alive at the end of the day are sinless and once they drink from the river they will be immortal. The same ones that are alive at the end of day 1 are also the ones who witness Satan being sent to the lake 1,000 years later. While there will be an altar there for sacrifices for sin it would remain unused for that whole period of time.

Here is the law that will govern people in the new earth and it is first given to the ones who are alive for the 1,000 years. None fail so no men go to the lake with Satan, the number of the sea is a reference to fallen angels. Only a few were sent to the lake at the start of the 1,000 years.
7 foundations of law that first governed angelic beings, Satan broke two with his dealings with Eve, murder and a lie. Adam died at 930 making it 70 years short of a day on God's time. That law existed until the death of their children, the 6 fingered Giants like Goliath and the 10 Commandments take over and last until Satan is in chains and all sinners will be in the grave. People from that time are immortal so God makes sure they cannot fall into sin or they would be sent to the lake with Satan rather than be the best teachers in the New Earth meaning none of their students will fall into sin either. How many different mounts are mentioned in the NT that are within His visits. It is more than 7, I peeked.

Re:21:8:
But the fearful,
and unbelieving,
and the abominable,
and murderers,
and whoremongers,
and sorcerers,
and idolaters,

and all liars,
shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone:
which is the second death.

If you paint those 7 sins on 7 hills you get what the foundation that the harlot's church is based on rather than Rome being involved. The list and outcome takes up all of Jeremiah 25 but sum it up and it is the whole world that is against Jesus and the whole world is divided according to the condition in the 7 letters, some are sheep, most are not.

TELL ME THIS PLEASE!the Holy Bible says the HUMAN BODY is the TEMPLE so why do you ALL say that the temple that the man of sin sits in is NOT a human body.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13813766

We worship God through prayer, it has to change before it is worship of something claiming to to be the God of the Bible. That change is an angelic being taking control of Jerusalem and claim it is part of the Bible in a good way.

God had the temple taken down in 70AD so His could not be used. In Re:11 when fallen angels control the city for 4 days the Bible won't even call it Jerusalem because of what that name means. The throne is the image that is built in Re:13 and the deception should try and show that the start of prophecy unfolding is actually the 'thief in the night' event when it is the 7th out of 7 signs according to a literal reading.
The last of their deception should mimic the GWT, rather than the start of the 1,000 years it would be the start of the New Earth and there would be no challenge to them being God ever. The human version would be even less grand than that. Being cheap might be their downfall if the Rothschild Plan is followed as per the script.

The Jewish bankers would be happier being two levers above Royalty than just the one they have already.

Secondly the Holy Bible says CLEARLY that Jesus became a CURSE that HE bore sin IN HIS BODY that HE was DECREED by God to be sin and if you actually read it you will see many more references so PLEASE tell me why you think the MAN OF SIN is satan when in fact it is JESUS!
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Humble and King don't belong in the same sentence. The humble appearance was done with the day of the cross.

Isa:53:1:
Who hath believed our report?
and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
Isa:53:2:
For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant,
and as a root out of a dry ground:
he hath no form nor comeliness;
and when we shall see him,
there is no beauty that we should desire him.

Isa:53:3:
He is despised and rejected of men;
a man of sorrows,
and acquainted with grief:
and we hid as it were our faces from him;
he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

Isa:53:4:
Surely he hath borne our griefs,
and carried our sorrows:
yet we did esteem him stricken,
smitten of God,
and afflicted.
Isa:53:5:
But he was wounded for our transgressions,
he was bruised for our iniquities:
the chastisement of our peace was upon him;
and with his stripes we are healed.

M't:13:41:
The Son of man shall send forth his angels,
and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend,
and them which do iniquity;

M't:24:40:
Then shall two be in the field;
the one shall be taken,
and the other left.

M't:24:27:
For as the lightning cometh out of the east,
and shineth even unto the west;
so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
M't:24:28:
For wheresoever the carcase is,
there will the eagles be gathered together.


The gathering isn't until the 7th trump sounds as it is part of the vials prophecy, destruction of the wicked.


Why do you twist Scripture and then say I twist it?READ Zech3.that is about Jesus in the paroussia in the 2nd coming.When He wore filthy garments.He was the man of sin.
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This is how to untwist something that isn't twisted to begin with. The first time that happened, the last time there will be with two with power. ie Moses and Elias at the same time.

Zec:4:11:
Then answered I,
and said unto him,
What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?
Zec:4:12:
And I answered again,
and said unto him,
What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?
Zec:4:13:
And he answered me and said,
Knowest thou not what these be?
And I said,
No,
my lord.
Zec:4:14:
Then said he,
These are the two anointed ones,
that stand by the LORD of the whole earth.

Re:11:3:
And I will give power unto my two witnesses,
and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days,
clothed in sackcloth.
Re:11:4:
These are the two olive trees,
and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.


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The last sign is the gospel going to the whole world. When that happens (and it is happening) you can know the time is at hand. Once the pure truth has went forward to the world regarding salvation, probation will close and the plagues will begin to fall on those who have the mark of the beast. At the 7th plague, Jesus comes to deliver his people. The saved (from the resurrection of life and those who are alive and remain after the tribulation) go with him to heaven. The lost are destroyed by the brightness of his coming and the earth is burned up. This is it in a capsule, however, it goes much deeper. The bible encourages us to BE ready. If we are always ready, we will BE ready when Jesus comes, that's what is most important in these last days.
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WHERE DID THEY GO?...

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Since the dead are resurrected first (as in Eze:37) how would people not be able to see that start and then repent and be part of the 1,000 year reign by the skin of their teeth? For the 'rest of us' our duties are the same in the last 3 1/2 years as they have been all along (with various degrees of success)
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hummbird Luk 17:34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two [men] in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

Luk 17:35 Two [women] shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Luk 17:36 Two [men] shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
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About this whole "thief in the night" thing...

It is hard to understand unless you have actually been robbed from.

If you have, you know the devistation which is felt, and the feeling of how it could have happened 'while you were away' yet you were sure that things were 'under watch'.

One feels like they were betrayed, in a way which hits the pit of your stomach upon learning what has happened.

You do not want to be on this side of the stick.

But let me tell you about the other side of the very same stick..

There is no easy way but to just come out and say it: The LORD spoke to me 2 times recently, and when this happened I nearly shatted myself.

It was like an invisible friend had made Himself suddenly known to you, that Yes, He is there.

I believe that He is basically pounding at the door of our hearts now, no longer knocking.

He told me that He is to be called LORD, or The LORD, and that I need to bring people to Him.

On my 2nd encounter He illustrated a few things about my life which were not clear but are now clear to me.

I'm telling you, I have only had 2 encounters with Him in this manor, but He is there.

It is like our inner voice is on 3 way, even though we think it is a 1 way call to nobody. It's a 3 way call, with The LORD keeping us on task in our day to day stuff - we believe this is our own thinking doing this, but it's not.

Same for considering bad things - we think it is our own thinking which is considering to commit a crime, but it isn't. Who in their right mind would commit robbery for example???

So that is the secret my friends. He is there, at every consideration you have throughout the day - but so is the adversary which He too created, who pitches bad ideas to us while we consider or contemplate.

The LORD is at those crossroads too, waiting to see if we continue in His path, or if we continue toward the wrong path.


Still not sure? Picture a young teen with their new iPhone 5, as they stare into it in a zombie state, you begin to have considerations..............
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WHERE DID THEY GO?...

 Quoting: 9teen

Since the dead are resurrected first (as in Eze:37) how would people not be able to see that start and then repent and be part of the 1,000 year reign by the skin of their teeth? For the 'rest of us' our duties are the same in the last 3 1/2 years as they have been all along (with various degrees of success)
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hummbird Luk 17:34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two [men] in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

Luk 17:35 Two [women] shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Luk 17:36 Two [men] shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

 Quoting: 9teen


The first resurrection is in heaven, they're Jesus assistant kings and priests. It's not visible from earth.
Seeing that wouldn't inspire repentance.
"And I saw thrones, and there were those who sat down on them, and power of judging was given them. Yes, I saw the souls of those executed with the ax for the witness they bore to Jesus and for speaking about God, and those who had worshiped neither the wild beast nor its image and who had not received the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand. And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christ for a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him for the thousand years." Rv20:1
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WHERE DID THEY GO?...

 Quoting: 9teen

Since the dead are resurrected first (as in Eze:37) how would people not be able to see that start and then repent and be part of the 1,000 year reign by the skin of their teeth? For the 'rest of us' our duties are the same in the last 3 1/2 years as they have been all along (with various degrees of success)
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hummbird Luk 17:34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two [men] in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

Luk 17:35 Two [women] shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Luk 17:36 Two [men] shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

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Will many expecting to be taken be left?
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Will there be a noteable "last chance" sign to learn God's requirements before the tribulation?

Does a thief notify the homeowner before he ransacks the home?
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Does a thief notify the homeowner before he ransacks the home?


No more so than God will notify a world ransacking his garden planet, except for a century of free scriptural education... to whom it may concern;
"On that day Jesus, having left the house, was sitting by the sea; 2 and great crowds gathered to him, so that he went aboard a boat and sat down, and all the crowd was standing on the beach. 3 Then he told them many things by illustrations, saying: “Look! A sower went out to sow; 4 and as he was sowing, some [seeds] fell alongside the road, and the birds came and ate them up. 5 Others fell upon the rocky places where they did not have much soil, and at once they sprang up because of not having depth of soil. 6 But when the sun rose they were scorched, and because of not having root they withered. 7 Others, too, fell among the thorns, and the thorns came up and choked them. 8 Still others fell upon the fine soil and they began to yield fruit, this one a hundredfold, that one sixty, the other thirty. 9 Let him that has ears listen.” Mt13:1

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Does a thief notify the homeowner before he ransacks the home?
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"...Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning;

And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately.

Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.

And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants.

And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.

Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not..."

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Your last chance, coming very soon, is the Warning. Don't wait until then. Do all you can NOW so that the warning might be at least easier on you.

Consider ALL prophecy, religious and secular, and you will see, you MUST prepare now. Te Warning IS your LAST chance, for some it may be too hard to bear and will be the end.
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Agreed.
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Your last chance, coming very soon, is the Warning. Don't wait until then. Do all you can NOW so that the warning might be at least easier on you.

Consider ALL prophecy, religious and secular, and you will see, you MUST prepare now. Te Warning IS your LAST chance, for some it may be too hard to bear and will be the end.
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Agreed.
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"“ “Then the kingdom of the heavens will become like ten virgins that took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish, and five were discreet. 3 For the foolish took their lamps but took no oil with them, 4 whereas the discreet took oil in their receptacles with their lamps. 5 While the bridegroom was delaying, they all nodded and went to sleep. 6 Right in the middle of the night there arose a cry, ‘Here is the bridegroom! Be on YOUR way out to meet him.’ 7 Then all those virgins rose and put their lamps in order. 8 The foolish said to the discreet, ‘Give us some of YOUR oil, because our lamps are about to go out.’ 9 The discreet answered with the words, ‘Perhaps there may not be quite enough for us and YOU. Be on YOUR way, instead, to those who sell it and buy for yourselves.’ 10 While they were going off to buy, the bridegroom arrived, and the virgins that were ready went in with him to the marriage feast; and the door was shut. 11 Afterwards the rest of the virgins also came, saying, ‘Sir, sir, open to us!’ 12 In answer he said, ‘I tell YOU the truth, I do not know YOU.’ Mt25:1
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OP,

Its already in effect. What is already in effect?
We are at the Latter Days. Anything the Bible refers to the Latter Days its our present day.

Any moment now. It can be in one month or six months. Most of the signs are in chapters 12 in the Bible refering to 2012, like Hebrews 12-13.

January 8-9 was the sealing here in South of Brazil. I dont think it started here. In fact, I think everything happens later here. So I believe that the sealing process is over by now. Next step would be fake signs and wonders on the sky that hearsay christians will go "identifying".


The 4th horseman was already unleashed last year or before that since I just started hearing/seeing/understanding last year. We are drowned in unclean spirits. Just pay attention to the news. Any "crazy" or unexplainable human behaviours are not coincidence, people are being controlled and influenced at many levels now without being aware. This will only become more evident.

the wicked keeps doing wicked things without positive influences and the righteous remains unfased, doing righteous things. That is what follows the sealing. A polarization process. The dualism should become evident.


Matthew 12:38
Pay attention to what is happening with the Pope resignation. Then go read the book of Jonah.


Matthew 12:43

It explain the whole problem with the legion brought with the 4th horseman and the rise/return of the unclean spirits. They are literally everywhere now, if you dont keep your seed, fast regularly and think 3 seconds before you do anything and be very cautious about it you are likely be influenced into a very bad situation, like getting into an argument, fight, committing a sin, and bizarre situations like forgetting your 1 year old son in the car, or lighting a match and starting a fire in your workplace.

Just start paying attention to the amount of people doing crazy things or suffering/causing "accidents" who will forget stuff in the fire. You will see. Just stand still in silence. No meditation bullshit needed. Just sit still and in silence. Beware of distracted or histerical people. Some people are like leafs in the wind to the unclean spirits. You need to be like a stone, like a mountain.

You know the whole bullshit psyop about "vibrations and frequencies increasing"? Well, thats THEM. Not only can I feel their presence through the vibrations, but I can see their ghostly/shadowy frames, hear and discern their thoughts intersecting mine. Stuff that you know there is no way its your own thoughts. Its really easy to perceive all of those when you are standing still laying quiet in your bed at sleep time.

If you wake up feeling like you didnt slept properly or waking up tired. Thats bad news. It means you are not under God's protection and these unclean spirits are devouring your energy through the cracks in your sinful pot. And if you cant see or notice what is actually happening, but still receives the negative effects its even worse news. No amount of drugs/remedies will help you.

I could give you dozens of bizarre out of this world scenes I started witnessing since a few months ago and that have become common place.

There are tons of excuses and attempts to mask what is going on, through false doctrines/ideologies, technology, music, etc.

If you really cant see the obvious spiritual things going on. Stop with ALL chemicals, like shampoos/dehodorants, etc go back to natural. Same with food, eat organic living things, preferably raw and with thick skin that your neighbor planted, got the idea? No more toothpaste and stuff in your water and after a while your organism will clean up and your senses will go back to normal. And then you will wish you couldnt see,hear,feel because you will see the evil you couldnt feel/see. Like when you get molested/raped/gangbanged by unclean spirits that got attracted by your own lust. You just see them humping you and you feel rythmic vibrations. Then you will understand why Jesus said "keep thy seed".


Now, the whole bible repeat the sign about the "having oil in the lamp", about keeping your seed, to not feed the wicked ones refering to unclean spirits. The keep your seed is obviously refering about the sin of lust and ejaculation, specifically for the latter days.


When you read Matthew 12 42, it mentions the queen of the dead, the queen of the south, the one that seduces you and then knifes you in the back, the one that control the dead. Its refered in Matthew 12:42 and its refered in the book of kings/salomon and in other parts as well. Its a very shady character in the Bible that is not spoken a lot, like the Last day servant.

The same character is referred throughout of the Bible. Basically, when she is made known or start doing her thing, if she does anything at all like resurrecting the dead, it will fit the abomination of desolation and then its run for your life, leave all your stuff behind, because all the unclean spirits will murder you if you go back to your home. The bible warns you in multiple parts about the same thing, in daniel and in revelations I think.


The whole Matthew 12 talk about TPTB breaking apart. Wich connects with the "deceivers shall be deceived". Wich again, connects with the roman catholic church being reformed.

At 12:33 he speaks about the tree known by its fruit.

Again, somewhere else he says the sign is "You will know them by their fruits".

At 12:34 it describes exactly what is going on everywhere on the media, doctrines, etc
People talking about love, unity, solidarity, etc. Exactly as described. Total hypocrisy, you hear people talk good things but you look around everything is sick and corrupt. For example, I live in Brazil, we have such an absurd socio-economic disparity that not even in 50 years any words of "change" and "hope" would make sense. Only for people living in luxury apartments in big cities to hear and be deceived with what they want to hear.
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Really, then why weren't they created there?
"Moreover, no man has ascended into heaven but he that descended from heaven, the Son of man." Jo3:13
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WHERE DID THEY GO?...

 Quoting: 9teen

Since the dead are resurrected first (as in Eze:37) how would people not be able to see that start and then repent and be part of the 1,000 year reign by the skin of their teeth? For the 'rest of us' our duties are the same in the last 3 1/2 years as they have been all along (with various degrees of success)
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:hummbird: Luk 17:34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two [men] in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

Luk 17:35 Two [women] shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Luk 17:36 Two [men] shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

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"Listen to another parable," Jesus said. "There was once a landowner who planted a vineyard, put a fence around it, dug a hole for the wine press, and built a watchtower. Then he rented the vineyard to tenants and left home on a trip. When the time came to gather the grapes, he sent his slaves to the tenants to receive his share of the harvest. The tenants grabbed his slaves, beat one, killed another, and stoned another. Again the man sent other slaves, more than the first time, and the tenants treated them the same way. Last of all he sent his son to them. 'Surely they will respect my son,' he said. But when the tenants saw the son, they said to themselves, 'This is the owner's son. Come on, let's kill him, and we will get his property!' So they grabbed him, threw him out of the vineyard, and killed him. "Now, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those tenants?" Jesus asked. "He will certainly kill those evil men," they answered, "and rent the vineyard out to other tenants, who will give him his share of the harvest at the right time." Jesus said to them, "Haven't you ever read what the Scriptures say? 'The stone which the builders rejected as worthless turned out to be the most important of all. This was done by the Lord; what a wonderful sight it is!' "And so I tell you," added Jesus, "the Kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce the proper fruits."
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everybody goes to heaven
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Really, then why weren't they created there?
"Moreover, no man has ascended into heaven but he that descended from heaven, the Son of man." Jo3:13
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So, how do you know if you descended from heaven?

Really no point in wasting your life worshiping, if you can't get into heaven anyway.
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The big honking sign ( fig tree ) is Israel, for those who have eyes.

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